User talk:Fowler&fowler/Archive 15

Topic ban review for Zuggernaut

See Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents#Topic ban review. Your name has been mentioned in relation to user:Zuggernaut. --PBS (talk) 22:27, 23 November 2011 (UTC)

Noteworthy Wikimedian Recognition 2011

		The Indian Barnstar of National Merit
		This user has been nominated by the community of Indian editors for recognition as a Noteworthy Wikimedian at WikiConference India 2011. AshLin (talk) 14:08, 24 November 2011 (UTC)

Thank you very much, AshLin. I consider it a high honor. Regards, Fowler&fowler«Talk» 17:29, 22 December 2011 (UTC)

ANI report regarding MangoWong

Sorry, as I know that you are on a break, but protocol demand that I let you know that I have referred to you at Wikipedia:Administrators'_noticeboard/Incidents#MangoWong_Block_review. Keep well, and I hope that the RL issues resolve ok.- Sitush (talk) 00:54, 25 November 2011 (UTC)

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File permission problem with File:Friday Evening Qawali at Dargah Salim Chisti, Fatehpur Sikri, UP, India.theora.ogv

Notification Removed because uploader provided more information, See below , Now tagged for Commons Sfan00 IMG (talk) 19:58, 11 December 2011 (UTC)

There's been some misunderstanding. I took the video myself. I added the book source because the file was tagged earlier for having no source, and I thought that by "source" they meant an external reference either to the musical idiom or to the location of its staging. I guess I am confused now about the difference between "source" and "author." In any case, I have removed the external source and replaced it with an (unequivocal) confession of the video's provenance.  :) Regards, Fowler&fowler«Talk» 16:38, 11 December 2011 (UTC)

Greetings

Redtigerxyz ^Talk is wishing you a Merry Christmas! This greeting (and season) promotes WikiLove and hopefully this note has made your day a little better. Spread the WikiLove by wishing another user a Merry Christmas, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past, a good friend, or just some random person. Happy New Year!

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And the same to you. Regards, Fowler&fowler«Talk» 17:30, 22 December 2011 (UTC)

File:Gray langurs garhwal2008b.jpg listed for deletion

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True it is unfocused, but, as I say, on the deletion discussion page, at the time I uploaded the picture, it was the only one on Wikipedia of langur mothers and infants. This will be my only reply here. Flat out of time right now. Fowler&fowler«Talk» 17:36, 22 December 2011 (UTC)

Happy Holidays to all who come here

		Greetings of the Season
		A merry good morning I wish you, My friends both great and small. When the world, for his fare, shall press you, may you n'er go to the wall. Fowler&fowler«Talk» 18:22, 22 December 2011 (UTC)

Happy holidays to you too, fowler. --regentspark (comment) 13:47, 23 December 2011 (UTC)

More information needed about File:Creighton Memorial Hall.jpg

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It was really helpful of you to you to upload File:Creighton Memorial Hall.jpg. However, we need to properly format the image license information in order to keep and use new images.

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Has now been fixed. Fowler&fowler«Talk» 12:37, 2 January 2012 (UTC)

Pakistan

Hi Fowler&fowler. The Pakistan article is currently undergoing a peer review and the aim is to make it a featured article again. An extensive number of edits have taken place over the past few days in this regard to improve the article. I see that you've significantly contributed to the India article in the past and given your expertise in South Asian topics, I am sure you would have some comments to spare for this article too. If you are interested, please drop in anytime for content improvement/suggestions/comments. Thanks! Mar4d (talk) 08:14, 29 December 2011 (UTC)

Hi there. I'm a little busy right now and soon to take off on travels, but once I've settled into a routine, I'll take a look see. Thanks for the invite. Fowler&fowler«Talk» 12:36, 2 January 2012 (UTC)

File:Gandhi bela bihar1947.jpg listed for deletion

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K.S. Lal

Hi and Happy New Year. I was wondering if you have read the books Indian Muslims: Who are they? and Legacy of Muslim rule in India by K.S. Lal. If so, then do you consider them to be reliable and objective sources? Joyson Prabhu ^{Holla at me!} 17:55, 1 January 2012 (UTC)

Hi there, and a happy new year to you as well. I'm afraid I've never heard of KS Lal and can't speak to the reliability of his books. Thanks. Fowler&fowler«Talk» 12:32, 2 January 2012 (UTC)

His works are available online, although in a Hindu nationalist website. These should make interesting reads. Just for clarification, i am not a Hindu or a right-winger.

• http://voi.org/books/tlmr/
• http://voiceofdharma.org/books/imwat/

Joyson Prabhu ^{Holla at me!} 18:20, 2 January 2012 (UTC)

File:India Pakistan1947a.jpg listed for deletion

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Talkback

Hello, Fowler&fowler. You have new messages at Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Ahalya/archive1.
Message added 18:15, 16 January 2012 (UTC). You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{Talkback}} or {{Tb}} template.

Thanks for your comments. I have replied. Please take a look. Redtigerxyz ^Talk 18:15, 16 January 2012 (UTC)

I will take a look, but let me be blunt. You are either unable to understand my posts or are affecting to not understand in order to preserve your pet formulations. The article is very poorly written. I am traveling. We are still working on the first two sentences. Either withdraw the article from FAC, work on it for six months, and resubmit, or be prepared for the long haul on FAC. Fowler&fowler«Talk» 03:48, 18 January 2012 (UTC)

Hi. Ahalya failed the FAC. Please help improve the article by providing your constructive criticism at Wikipedia:Peer review/Ahalya/archive2. Thanks. --Redtigerxyz ^Talk 17:58, 24 January 2012 (UTC)

User:Fowler&folwer may have a blunt or even an abrasive style but he is quick and accurate when analysing an article. Finally User:Redtigerxyz has met someone who can give him feedback long overdue. He has gotten away with too many poorly written "good articles". I'm glad to see Wikipedia processes work when it comes to featured articles. User:Redtigerxyz indeed brings a lot of good topics to Wikipedia but the quality is very poor. More than half of his so-called good articles need to be downgraded. Sorry, User:Redtigerxyz, you are not FA material and will not be for a very long time. Sick to GA level and find obscure topics which some people may find exotic and may throw bits of GA status your way or prepare to work a lot harder. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 31.172.30.1 (talk) 07:42, 6 February 2012 (UTC)

Bengal Presidency

The article on Bengal Presidency claims that during the early part of the 19th century the Presidency extended upto NWFP and included Punjab. But is it not true that there were distinct entities to the west of the present-day Bihar right from the start of British occupation (Most of the United Provinces formed a part of the Ceded and Conquered Provinces, then Agra Presidency and later, North-Western Provinces). Did they come under the Bengal Presidency or were they outside its jurisdiction and if they did, how was the administrative setup in those areas?-Ravi_{My Tea Kadai} 17:29, 8 February 2012 (UTC)

India talk page

See India talk page. SaibAbaVenkatesh (talk) 03:54, 11 February 2012 (UTC)

Join the Community!

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Bose 1997

Your recent edit to the dreadful Kashmiri Pandit article added a Harv reference to Bose 1997. The citation was broken because the source was not listed in the bib. I have taken the liberty of adding what I think is the intended source but I cannot confirm it due to snippet view etc. Please could you check. - Sitush (talk) 08:16, 21 March 2012 (UTC)

You are right. Sorry about that. Glad you guys are working on that article. Amazingly too, you've managed to make Yadav, Jat people, Kurmi reasonably stable! I'm still traveling and editing WP very infrequently (such as now) when I find a few minutes of idle time. Fowler&fowler«Talk» 08:22, 21 March 2012 (UTC)

I did a large prune of the thing last year and introduced Hasan etc but really have not made much progress since then, in part because I am continually distracted and in part because for a long period it was hard enough just preventing the old stuff from reappearing. Hopefully soon, once I have sorted out Saini. I see you make the occasional burst of edits & am pleased that you are still able to do so from time to time. - Sitush (talk) 08:33, 21 March 2012 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Ahalya/archive2: Ahalya

Thanks for your comments. Please take a look. Have replied to some of your comments. --Redtigerxyz ^Talk 18:47, 25 March 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for your no oppose. The lead improved a lot due to your comments. --Redtigerxyz ^Talk 16:35, 31 March 2012 (UTC)

List of Doon School alumni

Your recent spate (which you reverted) on the 'List of Doon School alumni featured list nomination' was more to do with your personal convictions, whatever they are I'm not averse to them nor am I challenging them (you're entitled to your opinion). But the fault is that you didn't distance yourself while reviewing it. And, casually, trashed the list (and thereby the hours I put in to improve it) by succumbing to your personal opinions of the school. I believe mixing your personal convictions with Wikipedia editing/reviewing is dangerously counter-productive to its well-established neutral standpoint. Merlaysamuel :  Chat  17:12, 29 March 2012 (UTC)

Doon FL

Hi Fowler. I agree that the list of this sort is a bit of fan puffery, but, for a list, it is amazingly well referenced and notability doesn't appear to be a featured list criterion. Just a thought. --regentspark (comment) 10:18, 30 March 2012 (UTC)

Sorry for the tardiness in replying. Yes, I'll take another look at the sourcing. Thanks. Fowler&fowler«Talk» 02:53, 31 March 2012 (UTC)

Kurmi edit

Greetings. wrt my last edit in 'Kurmi' i just clarified vague unrefrenced preexisting varna issue in lede with balanced and well ref content did not add anything except accurate ref. in etymology section tortoise totem is not my spec. only full sentance from same ref. previous editor for the reasons best known to him preferred to quote only half sentence from given ref and also surprisingly avoided final conclusive view of ref writer on etymology of kurmi. i merely completed referred sentence. did not add a word of my own. in info box i added a subcaste for which written references are available. thanks. my only concern is immediate deletion of my well referenced content by other editor. i feel sad.Jaychandra (talk) 08:20, 31 March 2012 (UTC)

I'm afraid I can't understand a word you've written here. Best to bring it up on the Kurmi talk page and state your concerns clearly. I do agree with your neutrality tag in the etymology section; however, the shudra bit is not the predominant opinion (and doesn't belong to the lead). Regards, Fowler&fowler«Talk» 08:24, 31 March 2012 (UTC)

ur last edit 'Kurmi'

wrt 'I'm afraid the shudra bit is not the predominant opinion, just that of some Indian sociologists', this may b ur personal view. ref suggest otherwise. i m not judgmental. i have no personal int in varna status of kurmi. i am just going by ref.Jaychandra (talk) 08:43, 31 March 2012 (UTC)

Doon list

Thanks for your message and your acknowledgement of my work on my talk page. I do understand your viewpoint and I never, for once, meant to offend you. If I ever did that, it was unintentional and i apologise for it. Sorry! Thanks for your comments. Cheers :) Merlaysamuel :  Chat  17:18, 31 March 2012 (UTC)

Also, on a closer look, the lead now looks much more balanced. Thank you Fowler for your time and energy! Merlaysamuel :  Chat  00:11, 1 April 2012 (UTC)

No worries at all. You certainly didn't offend me. Likewise, my apologies for any inadvertent offense. Regards, Fowler&fowler«Talk» 02:54, 1 April 2012 (UTC)

ur last edit 'Kurmi'

Thanks for ur feedback. kindly use talk page and resolve before deletion of well ref content. i have already cleared my POV. we should stick to wikis neutrality factor. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jaychandra (talk • contribs) 06:55, 2 April 2012 (UTC)

Let me put it bluntly. Stop pushing the "shudra" characterization on Kurmi. Just because one, two, or even three sources say something doesn't make that thing relevant for the lead of a sensitive article. I have written most of the Kurmi page. I've read all the references including the ones you are repetitively citing to promote your ends. The traditional caste status of the Kurmi is disputed by some of the best-known anthropologists and sociologists working in the field. You have already been served a warning in the template posted on your talk page. If you obsessively keep making your edits, you stand in danger of being blocked or banned. Let his serve as a second warning. Take it to the talk page and, once there please write clearly, punctuating your post properly, so that it can be understood. Regards, Fowler&fowler«Talk» 07:06, 2 April 2012 (UTC)

ANI

This is a very pertinent point. Well done. - Sitush (talk) 00:24, 3 April 2012 (UTC)

Thank you! There's danger of that discussion continuing ad nauseam. Fowler&fowler«Talk» 00:44, 3 April 2012 (UTC)

It needs to be sorted, sure. I am now faced with what appear to me to be a series of poor edits (mostly on MOS grounds, but some POV) at Free Press of India and a somewhat point-y page move for Swaminathan Sadanand. I know what WP:COMMONNAME says but that move seems ridiculous to me - GSearch returns 1.1 million hits for the name "Sadanand" and so it seems sensible to use the more complete name, as "S" will be a reasonably common prefix. I really do not see it as a Bill/William Jefferson Clinton situation where the fight regard precision vs common use. Still, the crap should hopefully be resolved before too much more time passes. Both of those articles should fall under the umbrella of South Asian history. - Sitush (talk) 01:10, 3 April 2012 (UTC)

April 2012

Welcome to Wikipedia. Everyone is welcome to contribute constructively to the encyclopedia. However, talk pages are meant to be a record of a discussion; deleting or editing legitimate comments, as you did at Talk:Burma/Myanmar, is considered bad practice, even if you meant it well. Even making spelling and grammatical corrections in others' comments is generally frowned upon, as it tends to irritate the users whose comments you are correcting. Take a look at the welcome page to learn more about contributing to this encyclopedia. Thank you. Allens (talk | contribs) 12:21, 7 April 2012 (UTC)

Huh? Fowler&fowler«Talk» 12:23, 7 April 2012 (UTC)

I'm guessing, then, that you hit the wrong key or something? You removed a posting by RegentsPark to the talk page. Allens (talk | contribs) 12:26, 7 April 2012 (UTC)

Hmm. That's bizarre. I guess I must have hit the wrong key. Sorry. Fowler&fowler«Talk» 12:28, 7 April 2012 (UTC)

It's OK - I've certainly done that myself at times. (Or MediaWiki had a really weird bug...) Allens (talk | contribs) 12:34, 7 April 2012 (UTC)

Focus topic

You probably take longer wikibreaks than I do :) However, there's one topic area that can be addressed quite easily even if you have just a few minutes here and there and was wondering if you might consider helping out in that. Category:R. K. Narayan, like all non-Bollywood/caste related topics is a heavily ignored area, albeit significant. Would you be able to spend a few minutes here and there to help bring all book articles within the category to a C-Class level? I've listed a couple of sources within each article as I created them, but there are a lot more and someone with access to an academic library would do better. (RP, this one's for you too). cheers. —SpacemanSpiff 04:27, 13 April 2012 (UTC)

kurmi varna status

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ANI notice

How do? I realise that you are on a break but I also know that you manage to find a few minutes from time to time. You should have been notified of this thread at ANI. - Sitush (talk) 22:37, 1 May 2012 (UTC)

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Buddha being the first historic figure

Hi, I did check the source in "A History of India By Hermann Kulke, Dietmar Rothermund" its written as Buddha is regarded as the first historic figure but regarded by who? I don't think that it can be written directly as "Buddhism, based on the teachings of India's first historical figure, Gautama Buddha". let me know your thoughts. --sarvajna (talk) 09:30, 10 May 2012 (UTC)

Mentioned you at WT:INB

I have mentioned you in this thread at WT:INB. - Sitush (talk) 13:58, 25 May 2012 (UTC)

Comment

Dear Fowler&fowler, I apologize for being harsh on anyone. But please I am asking because I do not know whom to ask. Could you please tell me what is the solution when there is lots of WP:RS but no consensus. What needs to be done in such cases on the wikipedia? But in anyway I apologize for being harsh. Could you please help me and suggest a solution. Best regards and thanks Robin klein (talk) 01:55, 27 May 2012 (UTC)

Indian mathematics

Hello, I am a user very active in the Good Article nominating system. I often look and scout for articles that could pass as GAs. I was sifting through WikiProject Mathematics, and found this article. You seem to be the editor who has has the most recent edits done, and I was wondering, do think the article is ready to go under a GA review. If so, Great! If not, what could be done to improve it. I am really exuberant when an article I nominate becomes a GA, and would like for this one to. Please, help this article become a GA. Thanks mate! Oakley77 (talk) 18:45, 3 June 2012 (UTC)

Xn4

I will give this a closer look. I've been meaning to ease back into wikipedia, and I promise to look into it by this weekend. Cool Hand Luke 14:46, 6 June 2012 (UTC)

Welcome back, Luke. Look forward to hearing from you. Fowler&fowler«Talk» 15:18, 6 June 2012 (UTC)

Based on your evidence at Talk:British Raj, I filed an SPI here. FYI if you want to comment further. --regentspark (comment) 14:21, 7 June 2012 (UTC)

Addition on page INDIA

I added a sentence on page India, Medieval history beginning 16th century, the information on 15 years (1540-1556) of local Afghan Suri Dynasty and their advisor Hemu's rule, who is also known as the last Hindu emperor of India. 1526 had seen the attack of Babur and demolition of most revered Hindu temples in North India. The barbaric rule was challenged by locals and Afghans lead by Sheh Shah Suri successfully defeated Babur's son Humanyun in 1540 and established an Afghan rule. Hindu king Hemu was an advisor to Islam Shah from 1544 to 1553 and worked as Governor of Punjab, Delhi etc. before acceeding to the throne of Delhi, after winning 22 battles continuously from Punjab to Bengal. Hemu lost his life in 2nd battle of Panipat fighying against Akbar's army. This 16 years non-mughal rule is missing on the page, hence, the need of putting a line. I think the line I wrote settles well with the flow and facts on the page. Please do the needful. Sudhirkbhargava (talk) 11:13, 15 June 2012 (UTC)

There's little I can do here. You will have to discuss this and gain consensus for it on the Talk:India page. Note: New posts are always added at the bottom. You can also click on the "New section" button in the menu at the top of the page. Fowler&fowler«Talk» 11:17, 15 June 2012 (UTC)

Montages

Just seen your removal at the Kashmiri article. I am not going to go mad about it but will be doing the same as and when I spot them. Good result; good stuff. - Sitush (talk) 00:48, 19 June 2012 (UTC)

Thanks. I figured that the Brahmins, being the top class, would likely have the biggest montages. I was right. Fowler&fowler«Talk» 00:51, 19 June 2012 (UTC)

Oh, yes! I am just beginning to tinker with the Brahmin stuff, eg: at Iyengar. Many years ago, a probably apocryphal story claimed that Sid Vicious or some other member of the Sex Pistols was attacked on stage by someone from the audience. The headline was When the fan hits the shit ... It is about time that a lot of the Brahmin articles got a decent once-over, but the fans will not be happy.

Right now, I am taking a short break and tidying some loose ends relating to Mancunian botanists, with the intention of taking John Horsefield to GA. Yes, I am aware that you do not care for the award-seeking tendency but if you fancy taking a look and feel the need to tweak anything there then please do. - Sitush (talk) 01:01, 19 June 2012 (UTC)

:) The fans will definitely not be happy. OK, will take a look when I find time (still erratic). Fowler&fowler«Talk» 01:03, 19 June 2012 (UTC)

No rush, He has been dead for quite a long time. - Sitush (talk) 01:12, 19 June 2012 (UTC)

:D Fowler&fowler«Talk» 01:18, 19 June 2012 (UTC)

Nehru lawyer

Next time, please refrain from your de-constructive edits to wikipages. I'm referring to the case where you removed 'lawyer' from Nehru's description in the lead. Thanks! --NehruJunky (talk) 14:49, 19 June 2012 (UTC)

Who the heck are you? Nehru was not a lawyer of any significance to merit its mention in the lead. Fowler&fowler«Talk» 18:18, 19 June 2012 (UTC)

Saare jahan se accha

Do we really need urdu and hindi versions in the article? (Noting that you put them back after I'd removed them.) --regentspark (comment) 16:32, 19 June 2012 (UTC)

I didn't realize you had removed them. Well, they've been there for over five years. The the complete unabridged versions are not available in too many other places. Besides there is precedent for other songs or anthems. Le_Marseillaise#Lyrics has French, English Translation, English Versification. Amhrán_na_bhFiann#Lyrics has Irish and English versions. National_Anthem_of_Russia#Official_lyrics has Cyrillic, English Transliteration, and English Translation. Jana_Gana_Mana#Lyrics has Bengali, Bengali Phonemic, English Transliteration, and English Translation. Qaumī_Tarāna#Lyrics has Urdu, English Transliteration, and English Translation. So I don't see why Saare Jahan Se Accha shouldn't have Urdu. It is the language of composition. The Hindi is a separate matter. There was a long discussion on it some four years ago and it was decided to keep it because of the popularity of the song in India. The bigger problem for me is the name. Iqbal called it Tarana-e-Hindi. I personally think the page name should be changed to that. Fowler&fowler«Talk» 18:09, 19 June 2012 (UTC)

Sourcing the Jawaharlal Nehru article

what books do you suggest I use to source the article? I have the autobiography on hand but i am guessing that be a primary source so it could be a problem. also many of the books i have on him are very old ones written by contemporaries. Is it really a big problem to cite them in support of the minor stuff? ex he attended this and he became so and so in this year etc? Cliniic (talk) 18:40, 19 June 2012 (UTC)

I'll have to think about it. I'm traveling and without access to sources. Will get back to you in a day or two. Fowler&fowler«Talk» 18:45, 19 June 2012 (UTC)

cheers! Cliniic (talk) 18:47, 19 June 2012 (UTC)

Hi

YGM. - Sitush (talk) 08:00, 20 June 2012 (UTC)

Oh, and I doubt that a site ban proposal will gain much traction on this occasion. Some people are certainly fed up but I don't see many that are quite that fed up yet. - Sitush (talk) 08:03, 20 June 2012 (UTC)

Well, since I am being accused of hounding ... What about this for a point-y edit? I thought that particular row had been sorted out? However, I took no part in it and perhaps my memory is incorrect? - Sitush (talk) 15:55, 20 June 2012 (UTC)

India = Colony

It's precisely your view that India was a 'colony' and therefore different from other legitimate countries is all the proof I need that your views are heavily biased and it is not worth trying to convince you of anything. The occupation of India by your ancestors as well the occupation by various Muslim invaders were mere chapters in the history of India which has remained a cultural/ethnic/geographic, even a linguistic entity for many millennia. Never mind Akhand Bharat and what the Hindutvavadis says, you clearly need to study-up on your history before you start editing WP pages. As for not creating an account, I have been editing pages since '05 or '06 without an account. I have never felt the need to create one and don't intend to do so now either. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 114.143.119.26 (talk) 11:10, 22 June 2012 (UTC)

Sure you have. You've created most of Wikipedia anonymously. Thank you for your contribution. Now get off my talk page. Fowler&fowler«Talk» 12:01, 22 June 2012 (UTC)

I thought it was the Brits, Portuguese etc who colonised India. That the IP thinks it was your lot does not inspire confidence in their knowledge. Keep up the good work.

BTW, I might do a trawl of YK's recent article edits, per the ANI discussion. In the circumstances, including the fact that he threw a boomerang, I doubt that I could be accused of hounding if I do a review. What do you think? - Sitush (talk) 12:13, 22 June 2012 (UTC)

Hounding has to do with actual interaction with him, which, in any case, you can't now have for a week. Trawling, which I'm assuming is done in a subpage of one's user page, is something anyone can do, without actual interaction. I'd say: go for it. I've compiled such statistics for suspected socks, the latest for Moonraker (talk · contribs), a couple of weeks ago. Fowler&fowler«Talk» 12:31, 22 June 2012 (UTC)

You're not a Brit? That's surprising. I was just guessing on the basis of the stench. Your provenance is immaterial. The only thing that matters for the purposes of this discussion is that you are spectacularly ignorant. That you are a professor is both shocking and sad but helps explain the sorry state of academia the world over. Monumental fools like you, biased to the hilt are the reason education is going down the drain. More power to you. 114.143.120.212 (talk) 10:10, 26 June 2012 (UTC)

"Monumental fools like me ... are the reasons." Consider writing in a language in which you can pontificate grammatically. Fowler&fowler«Talk» 06:25, 27 June 2012 (UTC)

Wow! You actually think it is 'reasons'. Is there anything left to say. In that sentence even though the word fools is plural the subject is still singular you numbskull. I know the rules of grammar of your language better than you. You should consider making your vacation permanent you retarded waste of space. 114.143.120.212 (talk) 18:21, 27 June 2012 (UTC)

I see, you're still at it. At the risk of sounding like one of the prescriptive grammarians of the 19th century, here goes: If "monumental fools" is singular, then subject-verb concord demands, "Monumental fools such as you is the reason that ...." (Similar to, "where handicaps such as deafness is the reason for the institutionalization.") Semantically, though, what makes more sense is: "Monumental foolishness, such as yours, is the reason ...." or "The prevalence of monumental fools such as you is the reason ...." Other anomalies in the rapidly decaying cadaver of your English are: (i) the use of "even though" with "still;" use one or the other, (ii) "know ... better than you;" use "better than you do" (same as "better than you know yourself") or "better than I know you." In conversation, this distinction is not important; but, here, given your dramatic claim, it most certainly is. (iii) "reason education is going ...;" use "reason that education is going." In many instances, though not here, "that" can be (and often is) dropped. Fowler&fowler«Talk» 04:46, 28 June 2012 (UTC)

Hii

I went through that page, the consensus was not reached, and the discussion is going on, sorry, I cant accept your POV untill an administrator says soPaansing (talk) 06:02, 23 June 2012 (UTC)

There is consensus, it could change, but it hasn't yet. There is no consensus for its reversal. You are not free to interpret things unilaterally. Fowler&fowler«Talk» 06:05, 23 June 2012 (UTC)

hii

3RR is okay, no issues for me, but your POV is not Okay, one admin is going to write to u on this, be ready Paansing (talk) 11:52, 23 June 2012 (UTC)

Hii

THERE WAS NO CONSENSUS, I dont wish to waste time on this non sense, regards Paansing (talk) 11:53, 23 June 2012 (UTC)

Then don't, and don't waste my time here either. Fowler&fowler«Talk» 11:57, 23 June 2012 (UTC)

June 2012

Welcome to Wikipedia. Although everyone is welcome to contribute constructively to the encyclopedia, we would like to remind you not to attack other editors, as you did on Talk:The Doon School. Please comment on the content and not the contributors. Take a look at the welcome page to learn more about contributing to this encyclopedia. You are welcome to rephrase your comment as a civil criticism of the article. Thank you.Justice007 (talk) 14:30, 23 June 2012 (UTC)

Beware of the WP:BOOMERANG. What do you think I was commenting on? Your ungrammatical English language edits. My remarks had nothing to do with you. You might be a great poet in Swahili for all I know. Fowler&fowler«Talk» 15:09, 23 June 2012 (UTC)

Das and Indian Nationalism

Continue your Das related discussions on his talk page Talk:Satish Ranjan Das. I have moved whatever was not pertinent (for improvement of DS article) from the Doon School's talk page to Das's. Continue it there and don't dump that garbage on Doon School's talk page.--Merlaysamuel :  Speechify  08:25, 25 June 2012 (UTC)

OK, thank you. I've cleaned up the Doon talk page, made it more readable, I hope. Fowler&fowler«Talk» 14:53, 25 June 2012 (UTC)

Thank you to you too. Great work on the DS talk page! --Merlaysamuel :  Speechify  09:34, 26 June 2012 (UTC)