User talk:Ironholds/archive5

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Reasonism article

Ironholds -- Don't know if this is the right way to contact you and my apolgies if it isn't. The proposed article on Reasonism has my FULL PERMISSION to use and modify as Wikipedia sees fit. I don't think there is a copyright issue here. Please contact me if you have any questions. KyZan (talk) 21:18, 24 July 2008 (UTC)KyZan

My account

Hi, sorry, I've been afk for a week or more. No, I don't have relation to those users. This name is a Maori word that Lego stole for their Bionicle toy line. Those look kinda like Maori words, phonetically, but I don't know who they are/were or what that means. Thanks, Kakama (talk) 03:50, 17 July 2008 (UTC)

Puppets

Can we continue discussion on talk page because case if having too much data ?--Rjecina (talk) 01:32, 1 July 2008 (UTC)

You can consolidate the pages data and correct grammar and spelling to make it easier to read.

I will not chase puppets, but I will revert IP users which are reverting Croatia WWII articles to user Velebit versions. If you can show me administrator with will to play with suspected puppets of this user I will not start any actions but I will inform this administrator. This is good enough ?

In the end for me it is not important if they are puppets of banned user or not, but if they show respected sources that statements are NPOV. In article Srbosjek I have asked many times user Velebit for NPOV links (17 May 23 May, 17 June), but "books" has been only answers. In articles Magnum Crimen and Ivo Andrić only internet links are deleted by this user. If I am on wikipedia fanatic of something I am fanatic of Wikipedia:Verifiability and NPOV --Rjecina (talk) 01:57, 1 July 2008 (UTC)

There is 10 - 15 articles edited by user:Velebit. If we are having suspicious IP edit in article then WP:AGF is OK, but if we are having edit warring from suspicious IP or SPA account which is returning article to user:Velebit version then we are having (in my thinking) WP:DUCK. I will give short call to user:Spylab which has controled puppets of Velebit in first half of 2007--Rjecina (talk) 13:52, 3 July 2008 (UTC)

I finally refuted Rjecina's lies and nonsenses here [1]--72.75.24.245 (talk) 18:45, 4 July 2008 (UTC)

Tell me if there is mistake but he is suspected banned user puppet until case is solved ?--Rjecina (talk) 22:58, 6 July 2008 (UTC)

Are you interested to write compromise version in which 1 section will be writen using that book and another using other sources. If you or somebody of your wiki friends know latin I can give you sources on latin language--Rjecina (talk) 16:14, 17 July 2008 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Jimmy Robbins

You wrote:

Could you do me a favour? I always find you bring something new and useful to XfD discussions (even if it isn't always something I agree with). Would you be able to comment on Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Jimmy Robbins? Ironholds 17:09, 28 June 2008 (UTC)

I missed this debate, but found a cashed copy of the article. I'm not such a fan of the notability subguidelines, and prefer to stick with the core intent of WP:N, which is "Wikipedia covers things that others have already covered", which means that there must exist independent secondary sources. Also, the sources have to be reliable, thus excluding blogs, etc. So, I just look at the sources. I find four, which I'll here assume to be representative:
1. http://www.forthesound.com/Interview_Post/p2007_articleid/169
2. http://my.highschooljournalism.org/nc/wentworth/rchs/article.cfm?eid=9701&aid=146542
3. http://www.crazedhits.com/weekend-feature-jimmy-robbins/
4. http://www.last.fm/music/Jimmy+Robbins
(3 & 4 from the deleted article)

1. does it for me. Seems like an independent demonstration of notability, even if it doesn't contain commentary and isn't a secondary source. I would discount this source if someone could show that it isn't independent because the subject or his agent paid for the interview to be published. Counting against this source is the fact that at this time, only one person has commented on the interview.
2. I am quick to discount this source as not reliable. Highschool journalism sounds bloggy, and not serious. Perhaps I am biased against teenagers?
3. Also unimpressive, looking like sofisticated blogging. The fact that it is so brief and directs the reader to a myspace site definately counts against it.
4. Not particularly impressive, maybe even advertising.

So, I think I started from weak keep and progressed to delete. I think the article was advertising. It would have been worth checking the history. --SmokeyJoe (talk) 13:06, 1 July 2008 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/2P START!

What do I have to do to remove this tag? Is citing two other places where the comic has standing good enough? Or do I have to do more? (See Talk Page) --Tustin2121 (talk) 15:11, 1 July 2008 (UTC)

Your change of heart

I'd like to give some background there, because the actual reasons for the boycott are, I hope, somewhat more sympathetic than your edit summary characterized. For a year and a half I have been coaching promising editors. One person cannot coach very many; the backlog is far bigger than I could manage. So for more than a year I've encouraged other people to pitch in.

The admin community in general deprecates training. And a good deal of the training that does happen is done badly. I've had people come to me as their second coach and reported that their first coach had been teaching them how to game RFA rather than teaching useful skills. For instance, one common tip is to break up big edits into little edits in order to pad a mainspace edit count. In real terms that's useless and gives coaching a bad name. What I do is encourage RFA hopefuls to bring at least one page to good article status: real work editing shows dedication to the encyclopedia and makes the candidate a better administrator later on--they approach situations with a better grounded perspective. And if someone wants more mainspace edits, do something useful such as vandalism reversion that actually relates to administrative tasks.

The problem is, site culture really is hostile to training. After a year of trying in various fora, with various people and approaches, I've decided a strong statement is necessary. Training works: it needs more dedicated people. Nothing short of a boycott has gotten the community's attention or gotten them to consider this seriously. Respectfully, Durova^Charge! 06:22, 2 July 2008 (UTC)

Anna

Thanks mate... It's frustrating.. i am trying to help this person out and i'm getting attacked personally... it's stupid...

AnnaJGrant (talk) 06:34, 2 July 2008 (UTC)

Anna

I was wondering, i see some people have cool colours with their usernames, are those only admins that get that cool thing or can regular users make their names look cool as well? (Like when signing posts/edits the user name is different than just a black link.)

Well one person is not going to stop me from helping out the wiki, the fight goes on!!!!

AnnaJGrant (talk) 06:38, 2 July 2008 (UTC)

Well i hope this worked, if not oh well lol, but yeah i would love to get one designed for me... something with blues purples and reds... anyways, i dont spend all of my time here, i just spend about an hour or so... have never really thought of anything to make an article about so never have, just spending time finding people that vandalize and reverting it. or New users and new pages that are just non sense and tagging them..

Anyways if you want to contact me over MSN let me know and i'll send ya my addy so we can talk more, its always nice to meet new people.

cheers,

AnnaJGrant (talk) 06:47, 2 July 2008 (UTC)

Ah ok, well anyways, it's Boten_Anna@live.com, i'm online most of the time and if i'm not im either at class or doing studies... hope to talk to you soon.

AnnaJGrant (talk) 06:54, 2 July 2008 (UTC)

Lol, Thanks for letting me know. Hope to see you online sometime soon again. Anyways I'm off and ill talk to you later.

AnnaJGrant (talk) 15:50, 3 July 2008 (UTC)

Sounds good to me.

Damn, how did this manage to slip by for so long? This subtle vandalism is the worst possible kind. At least when you have a page move vandal or some blatantly vandalistic account, it can be dealt with directly. This can't. Glad we caught it now. --PMDrive1061 (talk) 06:58, 2 July 2008 (UTC)

Thanks, bro. I left word on the AN about it. The little darlings were busy at Shawnee Mission School District as well with unnoticed changes. Better late than never. --PMDrive1061 (talk) 07:02, 2 July 2008 (UTC)

Worse, a legit user just rolled back the speedy. Gonna have a word with him. :) --PMDrive1061 (talk) 07:05, 2 July 2008 (UTC)

Great idea. It really does qualify as pure vandalism. Thanks! --PMDrive1061 (talk) 07:08, 2 July 2008 (UTC)

Thanks! The feeling is mutual. The really hilarious part is that a well-meaning user has put it up on AfD anyway in good faith. WP:SNOW, anyone? :)

PMDrive1061 (talk) has given you a cookie! Cookies promote WikiLove and hopefully this one has made your day better. Spread the WikiLove by giving someone else a cookie, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past or a good friend. Happy munching!

LOL! Gee, it's times like this that make me glad I gave back the mop and bucket. I can't wait to see how this progresses. This could be one for the "Bad Jokes and Other Deleted Nonsense" pages if those were still around. --PMDrive1061 (talk) 07:31, 2 July 2008 (UTC) Spread the goodness of cookies by adding {{subst:Cookie}} to their talk page with a friendly message.

Julia Creek Dunnart

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Julia_Creek_Dunnart&diff=next&oldid=223030834

This was a wrong postitive. Gestation age of 12 minutes? Holy crap! --Pjacobi (talk) 10:49, 2 July 2008 (UTC)

Stephanie Stephens

Hi. There's notability assertions in there. Please take it to AfD. --Dweller (talk) 11:54, 2 July 2008 (UTC)

my page

thanks. ĤéĺĺвοЎ (talk) 13:23, 2 July 2008 (UTC)

one question

How do I put a background on my userpage like that green one you have on yours?

Please respond on my talk page. Thanks, Iloveheadbangingmusic (talk) 19:27, 2 July 2008 (UTC)

...thanks. Iloveheadbangingmusic (talk) 20:08, 2 July 2008 (UTC)

Notability of criminal acts?

I thought I saw a guideline for notability of criminal acts but I can't remember where. Do you know where it is? RJFJR (talk) 21:13, 2 July 2008 (UTC)

Thank you for your response. I spend a lot of time on cleanup by month and I keep running into articles on people who committed some crime and I'd like to prod them but couldn't remember where the statement on notability of crimes was. RJFJR (talk) 13:22, 3 July 2008 (UTC)

Thadson

Hi, Thanks for the unbelievably fast answer to my adopt a user request. I just put it up seconds ago. I have some questions and am a bit frustrated.

First let me show you a page I wrote and need help with. (I will try to expand it in the future.) Atilla, a short coat

I wrote the article to clear up the misconception that the name Attila and the noun atilla is one and the same. However the latest note from Uthanc says: "(moved Atilla to Atilla (clothing): Surely the Hun is the primary subject being searched for"

So if you search for atilla, it is always linked to Attila the Hun.

I could be wrong, but I feel this is ignorance. atilla IS NOT attila

It is like saying that the article named alexander should be directly linked to Alexander the Great because "Surely the Great is the primary subject being searched". In this case, I believe properly, if you search alexander, you get the "name" and not "Alexander the Great".

Or with another theoretical example, lets say we search for "son", and we always get linked to "sun" as the "object in the sky is surely the one that everyone searches for..."

As a side note, first and most, I believe Attila is a name. Attila the Hun on the other hand should be a "notable Attilas".

But this is beyond my point, which is again that atilla should not be mixed up with attila what so ever.

I also noticed that atilla is used (in my opinion) improperly in the article Operation Atilla, a Turkish military operation , where it should be written Attila not Atilla as the book http://www.amazon.com/Attila-74-Cyprus-Michael-Cacoyannis/dp/B00004STH0 and the wikipedia article

shows.

Maybe I'm wrong, and then I'm just in need of some straightening up.

In any case, is it the policy of wikipedia, to set importance priorities between unrelated articles and in effect hide information (or make it harder to find)?

If you think, you could answer my occasional questions, i would appreciate being your adoptee.

Thadson (talk) 22:19, 2 July 2008 (UTC)

hey thanks for saving that article

thank you --TheGreenGorilla (talk) 01:05, 3 July 2008 (UTC)

Me too. Bearian (talk) 01:10, 3 July 2008 (UTC)

got your message thank you

) i surely will... --TheGreenGorilla (talk) 01:17, 3 July 2008 (UTC)

morning

morning iron. --TheGreenGorilla (talk) 10:06, 3 July 2008 (UTC)

List of Roman Emperors born in Serbia (19)

"New user" has created this article. I have moved article to List of Roman Emperors born on territory of today Serbia but now we are having 2 article because he has restored old. Somebody is needed to solve this problem --Rjecina (talk) 23:03, 3 July 2008 (UTC)

Yes I know, but article need to be moved, and I do not want to start new discussion or edit warring because for me it is not important enough (and it is not a vandal but nationalistic good faith edit).--Rjecina (talk) 23:06, 3 July 2008 (UTC)

In my thinking new name is wrong because they are not born in Serbia but on today territory of Serbia which is very different--Rjecina (talk) 23:08, 3 July 2008 (UTC)

It has been bad faith edit [2]--Rjecina (talk) 03:40, 4 July 2008 (UTC)

Careful

Re this edit - be careful with the tone you use with new editors. Many productive Wikipedians started out using the encyclopedia inappropriately, and we need to give them time to learn. Try to be a little less harsh in your first few messages to inexperienced editors - explain what our policies are, and why they are that way - instead of just saying "stop creating inappropriate pages" and then telling them it's "too late". (ESkog)^(Talk) 00:08, 4 July 2008 (UTC)

Speedy Deletion - Athene(movieLOL)

If you plan on speedily deleting the page I am working on at least reply to my defense of [the article]. - Etan (talk) 00:12, 4 July 2008 (UTC)

Ironholds, if a user removes the CSD tag and them add sources to the article, you should reexamine it, and then, either restore the CSD tag, or tag the article for the problems it still has, or nominate for AFD, or do nothing (if the article has actually improved so much that it's no longer speedable). Usually, you should never just roll back to the version that had the tag. --Enric Naval (talk) 00:49, 4 July 2008 (UTC)

Wikibreak ?!

Bah, humbug - you students....! :-) CultureDrone (talk) 15:21, 4 July 2008 (UTC)

My Scripts

Regarding your comment on my C scripts. They are not actually running on wikipedia, so I see no reason why they cannot be treated as any other text. Also, since I use Wikipedia as a temporary storage for them (I am currently switching between three computers on a more than daily basis, and intend to remove them when I am stable, in two weeks), they are somewhat important. If I must remove them, could you suggest a free site that would allow me to store my scripts? Thank you! - Freakytiki34 (talk) 15:27, 4 July 2008 (UTC)

Pollywood

I noticed you tried speedying one of the Pollywood articles. I thought you might be interested in seeing Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Badar Munir.--CyberGhostface (talk) 02:53, 5 July 2008 (UTC)

Calippo

Hi Pal, just a quick question, a while back we created a page about Calippos, then it was deleted. I remember seeing your name on the article when it was up for debate, I was just wondering if you could let me know what was wrong with it, so I can learn for future reference.

Cheers fella!

p.s. I noticed you refered to The Sky Moves Sideways as your favourite album, Snap! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Calypsoloverman (talk • contribs) 08:22, 6 July 2008 (UTC)

Italian irredentism

2 Croatian users do not allow me to edit the article Italian irredentism. Read my comments. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.13.167.236 (talk) 23:06, 6 July 2008 (UTC)

Re: Calippo

First, you requested deletion under WP:CSD#A1, then when the article was expanded under WP:CSD#G3; then the article was deleted under WP:CSD#G1. I'm not sure if it would be appropriate to paste the article here, given that it was mostly just spam and/or random ramblings; however, paraphrasing, it was an unsourced sentence full of peacock words, then a quote with a ref to a completely unreliable and untraceable source, one sentence of definition ("Calippo's are Ice Cream products sold in the United Kingdom by popular Ice Cream manufacturer Walls.", still with peacock words in), a sentence about when the Wikipedia page was created, a reference to the author of the quote above (possibly also the creator of the article, I don't know but that's common in articles with that nature), and an unsubstantiated claim which looks like typical vandalism. So the article was in a pretty deletable state.

However, I think it's quite possible that its subject is notable, but rewriting the article from scratch is probably the best course of action. --ais523 18:08, 7 July 2008 (U T C)

User User_talk:Kriss123

Hi User_talk:Kriss123 has created another meaningless page and I note you have issued a last warning. Just an FYI. BustOut (talk) 11:05, 8 July 2008 (UTC)

mass of redirects...

Thanks for notifying me - I won't put so many redirects to new pages from now on. Any guidelines on what sorts of redirects to put to new pages?? Juggernaut0102 (talk) 11:28, 8 July 2008 (UTC)

AfD debate InterModule

could you have a look at the AfD debate for the recently tagged page InterModule? I asked u a question... Juggernaut0102 (talk) 11:34, 8 July 2008 (UTC)

Ironholds, about you telling mee... about the A-eff-dee...

Yesterday you said that (the article InterModule) should have some media coverage/awards etc. in general to become notable, but I'd like to ask you (not proving you wrong here), but have a look at script.aculo.us, that one doesn't list any awards/ coverage, etc. why is that article notable?? Juggernaut0102 (talk) 10:57, 9 July 2008 (UTC)

wait..

as i said, from now on I won't create so many redirects, but for this article, it's not like I'm going to undo the redirects already there... so exactly how does putting my library in the list of Comparison of Frameworks have anything to do with adding redirects to my page? Juggernaut0102 (talk) 11:05, 9 July 2008 (UTC)

ahem

read the above message... Juggernaut0102 (talk) 11:13, 9 July 2008 (UTC)

Hello, I just recived a notice that I removed something from my page: Lewzair I am deleting misinformation. I was using a nother profile as a template for mines and changing the information to to suit my article —Preceding unsigned comment added by Lewzair (talk • contribs) 00:26, 10 July 2008 (UTC)

archiving talk pages

how do you put an archive on ur talk page? Juggernaut0102 (talk) 11:18, 10 July 2008 (UTC)

archiving talk pages

that would be a great help, go ahead, thank you. Juggernaut0102 (talk) 11:24, 10 July 2008 (UTC)

thanks

thanks a lot for helping me with the talk page archiving, you've been gr8! Juggernaut0102 (talk) 11:27, 10 July 2008 (UTC)

Music

Thanks for the compliment :) Yes, I love the first, second and fifth tracks on the new Oceansize album. :) (I think I am likely the only Perth person who has ever heard of them - I got into them mainly because, after the disappointment (for me) that was the last Tool album, I ended up chatting with a number of European users in forums who were quite happy to recommend alternatives - Porcupine Tree, Oceansize and Dredg chief amongst those.) Had already been advised to check Anathema out but really only found one song I liked so far ("One Last Goodbye"), but I'm always open to individual suggestions. Will check out the other two you have mentioned. If you're on last.fm, feel free to add me (the nick is linked from my userbox subpage). Orderinchaos 21:08, 10 July 2008 (UTC)

Jesse cutler

Ello you ! That was a short break ! :-) Re this article - in fact I'd tagged it as a copyvio back on 8th July when it was listed as 'Jesse Cutler' (capitalised). It was deleted, but if you look at the history for the new version, it looks like permission has been obtained - though how one checks this, I don't know. Even if it isn't now a copyvio and some notability can be asserted, the entire article is one long advert and in need of serious rewriting ! CultureDrone (talk) 21:40, 10 July 2008 (UTC)

Things...

...go fine thanks :-) Btw - how did your post-exam party go... or shouldn't I be asking ? ;-) How's you ? Not spending your free time back on here again, surely ? Judging from your userpage comments you seem a bit down - anything I can help with ? (as long as it doesn't involve money, loose women or drugs...!) :-) CultureDrone (talk) 21:45, 10 July 2008 (UTC)

Lol - Amsterdam hmm ? Never been...then again, I've never been to Ireland - just too close I guess - have fun ! :-) I had noticed the admins were a little...ahem...slow at times (looks round for thunderbolt...nope....maybe they're backlogged as well...) for CSDs - but maybe you're just taking things a leeetle bit too personally/seriously ? Hell, now I'm preaching to a psychology student...not a good idea :-) CultureDrone (talk) 21:54, 10 July 2008 (UTC)

DSM-IV Proposal Input

Would you consider adding any input to our proposal regarding the DSM-IV. Input is being collected on our talk page. Thanks! Mindsite (talk) 21:50, 10 July 2008 (UTC)

Help... ta dah

Lol - ahh don't worry, I promise it'll soon be back to normal. I mean, no vandals means you have nothing to complain about ;-) I have to wonder why people go to the effort of creating an article saying 'Poops is a retard' though... I mean, who do they expect to read it ? Do they tell Poops he's got an entry ? :-) Who is Poops ? Why do they think he's a retard ? Is Poops even a he ? Why am I even thinking this ?! Aarrgghh... CultureDrone (talk) 22:20, 10 July 2008 (UTC)

Sheikh Ahmad Jami speedy deletion

hi.i had created an article with a wrong name many months ago and now i'm repairing the whole article.please remove the tag if u r an admin.nothing's wrong.Bbadree (talk) 16:04, 11 July 2008 (UTC)

Hi . if I complete the article can i remove the tag now?Bbadree (talk) 16:14, 11 July 2008 (UTC)

Hi.about that the article is non-notable you can search the title in google or go to thisthis page in Farsi Wikipedia . it is about him.Bbadree (talk) 16:32, 11 July 2008 (UTC)

hi dear bloke.just go and look at his great tomb.65.49.2.98 (talk) 17:51, 11 July 2008 (UTC)

Excessive templating

The messages you're leaving at User talk:Flalonde don't seem sensible to me. These are very obviously test pages with no useful content.. why would you explain to the editor how to have the contents emailed?!? Don't you think a simple plain-English message is preferable to 16 templates? Friday (talk) 22:02, 11 July 2008 (UTC)

AuroraGuardian

Yeah, people like that sure as heck don't get the message. Only thing worse than an obvious vandal is a sneaky one. I thought the more warnings he got, the more likely he'd be to back down since so many people are watching his moves. --PMDrive1061 (talk) 22:36, 11 July 2008 (UTC)

Chloe Whittal

I'm confused here--you say its a copy of Lka Gedő but I see no such article. Please let me know on my talk page if there's something I failed to understand. DGG (talk) 00:25, 12 July 2008 (UTC). Right, so it should have been Ilka Gedő -- it did indeed seem that CW was an unlikely name for such a career. I deleted it as vandalism. thanks. DGG (talk) 00:40, 12 July 2008 (UTC)

InterModule

OK, I admit it, InterModule isn't notable. I'll withdraw my holding on the article. You can delete it if you wish. Juggernaut0102 (talk) 10:20, 12 July 2008 (UTC)

Adopt

I want to be adopted, as I am planning to become an admin soon. Narutolovehinata5 ^tccsdnew 02:38, 13 July 2008 (UTC)

Yes, this is an adoption request. Narutolovehinata5 ^tccsdnew 02:43, 13 July 2008 (UTC)

Would you consider recieving the Malaysian Newsletter? If you do please add your name here. Thanks! ĤéĺĺвοЎ (talk) 13:32, 13 July 2008 (UTC)

message

Hello, Ironholds. You have new messages at WilliamH's talk page.
You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{Talkback}} or {{Tb}} template.

WilliamH (talk) 11:29, 14 July 2008 (UTC)

Hi there

Thanks for getting in touch. (How can you stand to get up at such a horrible time of morning?) Watch Wikipedia:Meetup/London for the next announcement. Thanks too for the album suggestions. I've emailed a friend in the South Hants SF Group for when and where they meet in Pompey.--Peter cohen (talk) 14:16, 14 July 2008 (UTC)

Hm you've not supplied a contact from which to contact you under "E-mail this user". It's worth thinking about doing. I'm reluctant to type in my full address for bots to find, but it's supplied as part of my CIX package which has emails as if it were a COmpany in the UK. My id is peterc. You should be able to glue together the bits of the address from this.

SHSFG meetings are as follows

2nd Tuesday The Winchester Arms, North End,
3rd Tuesday The Clarence, Gosport
4th Tuesday The Ship and Castle , The Hard.

Oh and have a look around [3] or[4] for a mailing list to fo with Wikimedia UK where they're discussing Oxford as a site.--Peter cohen (talk) 18:18, 14 July 2008 (UTC)

Sheikh Ahmad-e Jami Biography infobox

hi.would you please do a favor for me?in that infobox i just want years 1048 and 1141 in birthdate and deathdat.no day and month is neeade.Bbadree (talk) 16:11, 14 July 2008 (UTC)

thanks.and how did you see the article.what's your opinion about it?Bbadree (talk) 16:23, 14 July 2008 (UTC)

but i have seen two issues about that.influences and influenced.in infoboxes you can see these two titles.Bbadree (talk) 16:30, 14 July 2008 (UTC)

no.there isn't.the amount of farsi material in the net about him is very limited.let alone english.Bbadree (talk) 16:45, 14 July 2008 (UTC)

Yes , i can.but it would be very superficial and artificial too.i am seeking for a better versionof that.Bbadree (talk) 16:49, 14 July 2008 (UTC)

so you approve of the page spellcheck? an what do u mean by stuff?Bbadree (talk) 17:17, 14 July 2008 (UTC)

hi.do you know any thing about monobook in wikipedia?where can i download it?for getting better my editor?Bbadree (talk) 08:36, 15 July 2008 (UTC)

in my persian version I used a monobook or something and then my editor was more buttonful (!) abd i could do alot of things, you said you know a persian poet who can compose the english version of Ahmad e Jami poet?can u interoduce her to me?of course I have composed one.butit is not that good.Bbadree (talk) 12:00, 15 July 2008 (UTC)

yes.that was a js script.where can i paste it into my page? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Bbadree (talk • contribs) 12:09, 15 July 2008 (UTC)

anything which u prefer.Bbadree (talk) 12:13, 15 July 2008 (UTC)

I want the articles easier to be created.what you recommend is approved.Bbadree (talk) 12:19, 15 July 2008 (UTC)

ok , would u tell me how to install the same deleter version?Bbadree (talk) 12:24, 15 July 2008 (UTC)

hi.I want to write down sth in ahmad jami article about a great change in his taughts and life .what do u say it in english?Bbadree (talk) 16:02, 17 July 2008 (UTC)

here is the text: In 22 he was aspired by god and his life was changed and he denied all beliefs belonged to his family. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Bbadree (talk • contribs) 16:12, 17 July 2008 (UTC)

no 22 is his age.i mean when he was 22 .... Bbadree (talk) 12:53, 19 July 2008 (UTC)

SIPC

Yes, I forgot the reference list -- just added it. Thanks for the compliment! Ecoleetage (talk) 21:10, 14 July 2008 (UTC)

Offline: some travel, a sinus infection, and various acts of miscreant behaviour. Online, I am seeking feedback for my work here: [5] -- can you offer some input on that page, please? And how is life (mis)treating you? Ecoleetage (talk) 21:15, 14 July 2008 (UTC)

I appreciate the vote of support. Stay in touch. Ecoleetage (talk) 21:23, 14 July 2008 (UTC)

Advice

Thanks for your advice. The Kaleb (talk) 22:12, 14 July 2008 (UTC)

Speedy Nom

Hmm. That sounds about right; cheers for doing that. I notice you also beat me to the redirect on Acer Aspire 5610z. Good work. Booglamay (talk) 22:25, 14 July 2008 (UTC)

And you beat me to CSD the Crystal m. article. I will beat you to something. Booglamay (talk) 22:30, 14 July 2008 (UTC)

Finally...! Booglamay (talk) 22:35, 14 July 2008 (UTC)

Amanda Balon

You tagged Amanda Balon for speedy deletion. I think that a lead role in a touring musical is an assertion of notability, so I added some references and removed the speedy tag. Please be really careful not to tag articles for speedy deletion unless you're certain that they fall within the criteria for speedy. --Eastmain (talk) 01:56, 15 July 2008 (UTC)

Prod

I noticed a few prod tags you've put up that have been removed and then put up again. You're not supposed to do this. Once a prod tag is removed, it should not be re-added, prod is used when -nobody- objects to the deletion (there are a few exceptions such as vandalism or the removal clearly not being a deletion objection, but an IP user doing it isn't one of them). Just letting you know. Also, you haven't called lately. Why don't you call? I'm so lonely... *sniff*. --UsaSatsui (talk) 20:13, 15 July 2008 (UTC)

I was kidding about that last part. :) But just in case you must know...well, the usual. Doing this, checking th es e, and trying to save this. --UsaSatsui (talk) 20:21, 15 July 2008 (UTC)

puff in aushwitz

there is only source in polish:
http://www.polityka.pl/puff-w-auschwitz/Lead33,1143,260561,18/
best --77.113.73.91 (talk) 12:16, 16 July 2008 (UTC)

http://www.dict.cc/?s=puff best --discourseur 13:57, 16 July 2008 (UTC)

My user page

Please, leave my userpage alone in terms of vandalism.

I have friends who like to edit my page, and the "fap fap fap etc." thing was something I put in there.

Thanks. -AMFilmsInc^{(and, Action)} 01:40, 18 July 2008 (UTC)

Huh?

The article about Richard Cohen required editing because of its blatant abuse of Wikipedia’s neutral point of view policy. It was in fact beleaguered with unverifiable statements that were based upon opinion and not fact.

The article about Kenneth E. Hagin also contains clear and blatant violations of the neutrality policy and requires a balancing out.

It would appear that instead of discussing where I have, in your subjective opinion, violated the neutrality policy, you are instead threatening to remove my rights to edit and improve articles as a member of Wikipedia. That is hardly academic or just. I don’t believe you can do that arbitrarily anyway but please at least try to be reasonable.

Show cause and I am willing to learn as you also claim to be. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Frederickj3 (talk • contribs) 20:24, 18 July 2008 (UTC)

Semi-protect

I do not believe that this will work. To tell you truth in my thinking somebody (neutral) need to rewrite article.

Knowledge of latin is very important for this article, because this neutral user will have church documents (on latin) about Drakulići massacre.--Rjecina (talk) 14:56, 19 July 2008 (UTC)

I have asked User:Ihcoyc translation of church documents from latin.--Rjecina (talk) 15:55, 19 July 2008 (UTC)

Knowing that this is starting to take too much of your time I will ask you only to look talk page of article Petar Brzica and to say your comment about my reasons for tags and his reasons for deleting tags.--Rjecina (talk) 15:00, 19 July 2008 (UTC)

Tadhkirat al-awliya

In List of the people in the book sectioni have made internal links , but they don't work.I want to see how i can spellchek them?thanks.Bbadree (talk) 16:11, 20 July 2008 (UTC)

Or maybe I am typing wrong letters.because the names are in arabic and transliteration is in english i may make a mistake.Bbadree (talk) 22:10, 20 July 2008 (UTC)

Thanks . Bbadree (talk) 22:15, 20 July 2008 (UTC)

It's sad

It's sad that the Wikipedia community has censored some of your user boxes. It's always a pity when Medieval witch-burning mentalities prevail. Sincerely, Erik the Red 2 (AVE·CAESAR) 22:34, 20 July 2008 (UTC)

Re:Vote

I'm entitled to my opinion. Shapiros10 ^{contact me}_{My work} 23:40, 21 July 2008 (UTC)

Where is it stated that he has to work in areas he doesn't want to? Shapiros10 ^{contact me}_{My work} 23:44, 21 July 2008 (UTC)

Again-just because it allows you to do other things doesn't mean you have to. Shapiros10 ^{contact me}_{My work} 23:46, 21 July 2008 (UTC)

I'm just stating that I think that good antivandals=good admins. Can we just leave this be? I don't want any conflict, especially with you. Shapiros10 ^{contact me}_{My work} 23:51, 21 July 2008 (UTC)

Mark Kirk

You reverted an edit to Mark Kirk that changed the location of his residence. The change you reverted is more likely that the one that preceded it since Highland Park is in his district and Champaign is not, which is why I placed a fact tag on the Champaign claim. Probably wouldn't have labeled the HP note as vandalism. Shsilver (talk) 01:11, 22 July 2008 (UTC)

Coach

Well I have placed a request on Admin Coach, but I can't find a coach, because no one is going there. Can you coach me? Narutolovehinata5 ^tccsdnew 08:05, 22 July 2008 (UTC)

Adoptee?

I might have an adoptee for you. User:Lenberzerk. He's creating his own bio (NN COI), but you might be able to put him on the right track. Shapiros10 ^{contact me}_{My work} 16:45, 23 July 2008 (UTC)

Never mind, looks like someone else offered. Shapiros10 ^{contact me}_{My work} 16:47, 23 July 2008 (UTC)

Edwards Coaches

A very very weak notability claim stopped me from speedying it a second time. It's at AFD now. I prefer to err on the side of caution with these things - who knows, they could be the company that ferries the Wales Rugby Union, football and erm, shinty teams around, and have racked up masses of coverage for, dunno, providing drivers who only speak Welsh. Lord knows. But I'd rather give it a chance ;-) --Dweller (talk) 21:29, 24 July 2008 (UTC)

Reasonism article

Ironholds -- Permission to reprint and modify article was posted a few minutes ago at the bottom of page of www.liberalinstitute.com. :-) KyZan (talk) 22:50, 24 July 2008 (UTC)KyZan

I see you removed the speedy, quite correctly,but you seems to have omitted to remove the hangon, so it remained listed for speedy deletion. In any case, I've listed the article for proposed deletion as original research--please keep track, and afd if necessary. I've already notified the author. DGG (talk) 23:02, 24 July 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for marking a correct edit to Mark Kirk as vandalism. Even if it were wrong, vandalism is not the right term, and that really leaves a bad taste for editing Wikipedia. --24.12.162.100 (talk) 02:15, 25 July 2008 (UTC)

Orphaned non-free media (Image:VictoriousORG.jpg)

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I found it

Finally, I've found the original userpage. ĤéĺĺвοЎ (talk) 12:16, 25 July 2008 (UTC)

Nevermind. Thanks for keeping in touch though. Cheers. HeLLboy2HeLL (talk) 12:58, 25 July 2008 (UTC)

Cave Nectar Bat

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Arthur Lessac

I added some material to Arthur Lessac. Could you please take another look at the article? --Eastmain (talk) 02:45, 26 July 2008 (UTC)

I think withdrawing the AfD would be the most reasonable thing to do now that references have been found, but I'm reluctant to ask a nominator to do anything other than take a look at the revised version of an article. I recognize that most editors react negatively to articles that are somewhat promotional, as this one originally was. The way I try to evaluate articles is to ignore the tone, whether it attacks or supports the subject of the article, and try to see whether the subject is probably notable. If I think it is, then I try to find references -- and sometimes I can and sometimes I can't. -- Eastmain (talk) 02:57, 26 July 2008 (UTC)
To close down an AfD, use the <s> and </s> markup to strikeout anything that you wish to withdraw, and add a line like "*Withdraw. I have changed my mind and would like to withdraw this AfD." Someone else can then take care of closing it. --Eastmain (talk) 03:04, 26 July 2008 (UTC)

hangon is for the talk

Placing a hangon tag will make you read the talk page at least. You are authoritarian wikipedia admins. Please refrain from vandalising my page by posting vandalism tags on it. Thank you. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Pleasantfartsa (talk • contribs) 09:22, 26 July 2008 (UTC)

Cite your sources

Please cite your sources. And before telling me that I have made an attack page, please mind your language by refraining from using impolite terms like "shut you up". Thank you. Pleasantfartsa (talk) 09:26, 26 July 2008 (UTC)

Pauly hoax

Hi Ironholds, I've taken Pauly (Singer) and all the related song/album articles to Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Pauly (Singer), if you'd care to comment. Marasmusine (talk) 11:05, 26 July 2008 (UTC)

The days...

Well, life wobbles on for me. Nothing interesting to report -- no news can be good news, I think. Hope all is well in your sphere of influence. Ecoleetage (talk) 12:55, 26 July 2008 (UTC)

As per your comment "I'll try to look at your editor review in a bit; I was actually going to do it earlier but got sidetracked with some union leader who was redlinked" -- yes, the unions are always creating some sort of problems, aren't they? :) Ecoleetage (talk) 12:58, 26 July 2008 (UTC)

Well, at least the trains are running...for now. Actually, I have a train to catch -- I will check back later. Thanks for the offer of weighing on my Editor Review. Be well. Ecoleetage (talk) 13:19, 26 July 2008 (UTC)

Re Lessac post, glad to see that with more review it was kept. No, it does not yet do him justice, but I took a moment to create it because I was actually surprised to see he wasn't on Wikipedia> His work has quite a following and his concepts are regarded as pathbreaking. Did my first post get that across? No, it was just biographical -- but careful and factual. I will now point out via email to some others more in a position to add detail re Lessac's significance the opportunity, and they will do so as they see fit. I think we should remember about new posts that Wikipedia entries are a community effort, so the first question should be whether someone explain the significance or add to this new post. Thanks to those who did this by checking other sources. A little too much of what gets into Wikipedia is sanctioned based on what gets into the media -- we should use some judgment because there are times when people and ideas that haven't made the New York Times are entirely worthy. Lessac has been in the media, but anyone familiar with his work would say they haven't gone deep. Cheers, Travelingirl52 (talk) 13:46, 26 July 2008 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Sixty Four (64) Recommendations to Prevent Extremism

If you want Sixty Four (64) Recommendations to Prevent Extremism deleted, you should transclude the first nomination onto the AfD daily log page (and replace the AfD notice on the article page). The second nomination was transcluded, but then you asked for it to be speedily deleted, so I closed it instead. I'm not sure what your preference is. --Metropolitan90 (talk) 15:15, 26 July 2008 (UTC)

To make things simpler, I went ahead and completed the process myself. --Metropolitan90 (talk) 15:30, 26 July 2008 (UTC)

My page

You were correct to revert the vandalism you found on my userpage, apparently somebody was vandalizing my page and I didn't know about it.

Thanks, AMFilmsInc^{(and, Action)} 03:05, 27 July 2008 (UTC)

Re your articles on PRR songs

You asked me a question. My reply is that everyone has to start somewhere. If I see litter in the street I pick it up. Hope this analogy assuages your curiosity. Best wishes Spoilydoily (talk) 20:22, 27 July 2008 (UTC)

Bats in the Wiki

Hey, kudos on the new round of bat articles. I don't know if you were planning this, but you may want to add the article to an appropriate WikiProject -- that will bring more attention to the subject. Also, let me know when you are able to drop in on my Editor Review -- it is going to be archived soon and I'd like to get as much feedback as possible. Thanks! Ecoleetage (talk) 13:14, 28 July 2008 (UTC)

No, there is no WikiProject Bats. The subject falls under WikiProject Mammals. Thanks! Ecoleetage (talk) 13:19, 28 July 2008 (UTC)

Pure Reason Revolution

Thank you for your comments. If you can show me where, and what NATIONAL, reliable music chart (eg Radio 1, NME, Pepsi, Download )this band has occupied (other than hearsay as in the case of '#74') then I will consider not AfD'ing the remaining songs. As it stands, from what I can find out, all the present links are to a web page of unsupported information about music charts, and as such strike me as being unreliable. Please do not take offence at this, none is intended. Spoilydoily (talk) 13:48, 28 July 2008 (UTC)

Editor review; music AfD

Hey, thank you for the editor review. I would also invite you to check out this music-related AfD: [6]. I was bothered by the rush to delete this -- there appeared to be no attempt at actually researching the subject. Your input is welcome. Cheers! Ecoleetage (talk) 14:39, 28 July 2008 (UTC)

holocaust denial talk

Just wanted to let you know I started a topic about my edits on the holocaust denial talk page.

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--Circuitcheckr (talk) 16:57, 28 July 2008 (UTC)

Why did you revert it if you would rather wait for more experienced editors to talk about it?--209.121.110.75 (talk) 19:09, 28 July 2008 (UTC)

Mirfield Reporter

Just spotted your deletion tag on the article. Have you seen these:- [[7]] which are similar! Richard Harvey (talk) 14:39, 29 July 2008 (UTC)

RE: Hey

Thanks. I will. =] --Forego (talk) 01:17, 30 July 2008 (UTC)

Moi

Me? Well, to quote a 40-year-old song: Ob la de, ob la da, life goes on. Not much of interest to report. Online, I have a pair of better-than-average AfD debates going on where you may wish to grab a crowbar and start swinging: [8] and [9]. I also put together a list of articles to write or expand – that should keep me out of the pool halls for a while. Offline, just the usual degree of wreckage and ruin that I bring to the world. And yourself? Ecoleetage (talk) 15:51, 31 July 2008 (UTC)

Will do. Happy B-Day to you, too! Ecoleetage (talk) 16:48, 31 July 2008 (UTC)

P.S. Hey, if you have any great horse jokes, saddle up for this one: [10]. Ecoleetage (talk) 13:22, 1 August 2008 (UTC)

P.P.S. This one took an interesting turn (see for yourself). Ecoleetage (talk) 15:12, 1 August 2008 (UTC)

P.P.P.S. Check this one, too: Integrated Biomolecule Corporation. That is a curious discussion. Ecoleetage (talk) 18:25, 1 August 2008 (UTC)

P.P.P.P.S. Hey, I just saw your input on IBC, and while reading it I said to myself: "Wow, this is great." Of course, we completely disagree -- but so what? Some people take this stuff much too seriously -- they seem crushed that others don't agree with them. But I love spirited and intelligent input, whether I agree or disagree with the editor who weighs in. Great job, again! Ecoleetage (talk) 19:47, 1 August 2008 (UTC)

Sorry

Sorry, I just had a feeling that there was no way it would pass. everyone dirties their clothes at noe point in their career. Shapiros10 ^{contact me}_{My work} 21:41, 31 July 2008 (UTC)

requesting teh snow. Shapiros10 ^{contact me}_{My work} 22:22, 31 July 2008 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Sheraton Doha Resort & Convention Hotel

I replied at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Sheraton Doha Resort & Convention Hotel. --Eastmain (talk) 22:08, 31 July 2008 (UTC)

Sidney Weighell DYK

On 1 August, 2008, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Sidney Weighell, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

--Congratulations! PeterSymonds (talk) 01:49, 1 August 2008 (UTC)

Sure wasn't. :) Great article! PeterSymonds (talk) 01:53, 1 August 2008 (UTC)

RE:Laroussan

I noticed that, but I went to the article and clicked project and saw it was all there, so I assumed it was a bug, thanks for the lookout. -- Darth Mike _(Talk _{• Contribs)} 22:03, 1 August 2008 (UTC)

Lazarat

Well, it shouldn't have been there, right? Which speedy deletion tag should I have used instead? This is just the first time I ever tried patrolling, so excuse me if I make some rookie mistakes :) Stijndon (talk) 22:13, 1 August 2008 (UTC)

My page

Thanks for the advice. I am going to fix it up in the next few days. Thanks again!! America69 (talk) 23:46, 1 August 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for the offer. I am going away in 5 days for a week and half, so if we do anything, I guess we would have to wait. Thankyou for your offer, I am aware my page is getting quite out of hand, so it would be nice to redo my page. Thank you again so much!! America69 (talk) 23:52, 1 August 2008 (UTC)

Vandal

Thanks for reverting my talk page. All the best, 'Arry Boy (talk) 06:59, 2 August 2008 (UTC)

Martín Cárdenas (botanist)

Hi. I appreciate your intitial concern but did it really matter? If I hadn't have started that article last night I would have most likely forgotten about it when I logged in today even if I had saved it in my sandbox. Its been translated now so it doesn't matter. Anyway even if I had left a note, somebody may have come across and contributed by translating it anyway. ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ ^$1,000,000? 10:01, 2 August 2008 (UTC)

Twinkle & anything for deletion

Hi,

I still don't really get how to easily circumvent twinkle's red-linkin' bug. You said to simply hit edit, do nothing, and save, but I guess I'm doing it wrong, since it doesn't "unredden" the link. Could you please describe it with a bit more detail? Thanks! Stijndon (talk) 14:07, 2 August 2008 (UTC)

Not a copyvio

The source for all the tiny articles about historical rulers from Dawoodabro (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · page moves · block user · block log) is a book published in 1902, and therefore in the public domain. So we should simply add Category:History of Sindh to the articles and list http://www.scribd.com/doc/420317/A-HISTORY-OF-SINDVol-II as the source. --Eastmain (talk) 17:18, 2 August 2008 (UTC)

==RE:Maurizio Iacono=

Fine, thanks for your message! Catgut (talk) 23:42, 2 August 2008 (UTC)

Afterlife

Well, that's why I used prod instead of CSD :) See, i'm slowly learning (and stuff like that...) Also, I just wanted to share that sometimes you spend some time googling a new page, and then you conclude it isn't notable, and when you hit the CSD button, somebody else has done it while you were checking it out. This is mildly annoying... —Preceding unsigned comment added by Stijndon (talk • contribs) 02:07, 3 August 2008 (UTC)

RE: Vandalism on my usertalk

Thanks very much for reverting that, regards, Police,Mad,Jack (talk · contribs)☺ 12:12, 3 August 2008 (UTC)