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Which articles? My bot serves hundreds of pages. I wish people were more specific instead of making me guess. Also, please check that the settings are correct, the template hasn't been tampered with and that there is sufficient material to be archived (at least 2 threads, with at least 5 more to remain). Миша1321:07, 1 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I don't archive talk pages. My bot does. If you wish it did so on your talk page, please read the instructions and only ask me if you encounter problems in the procedure (I strongly suggest picking a consistent archive naming convention - the bot will not guess what you have in mind). Миша1321:11, 1 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Hi, this evening's archive moved threads which had posts dated today in them. I didn't think the bot was supposed to do this. Can you look at it please? Cheers --Rodhullandemu (Talk) 20:11, 1 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Hello, I was wondering if you are close to providing any archiving algorithm beyond "old". Some pages should be archived as a snapshot at a specific interval, such as once a week. I could write a one-off code for what I want, but if you had something close it would be great. Gimmetrow00:36, 2 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
In fact, the algorithm is ready. But I have written it for a more advanced version of the bot (a rewrite from scratch, basically) which is not yet entirely assembled. Миша1320:48, 3 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Witaj, zwracam się do Ciebie z prośbą o mediację. Czy ważne są prośby userów przez gg o zmianę ich strony? Pytam, bowiem 29 lutego zostalem poproszony o poprawę tej strony. 2 marca moja edycja została zrewertowana, a Visor nie pomyślał o tym, że może ten użytkownik zażyczył sobie zmiany, tylko od razu zrewertował. Dziwne dla mnie jest też, że gdy pewien wikipedysta (wolę zachować anonimowość tego użytkownika) wprowadzał zmiany na moją stronę użytkownika, na moją prośbę, wtedy Visorowi to nie przeszkadzało. Ogółem problem jest taki, że ostatnio w "real life" zwaliło mi sie sporo rzeczy na głowę: obowiązki zawodowe+studia+prywatne sprawy i sam nie mam zbyt czasu, aby to wyjaśniać, dlatego proszę Ciebie, jako doświadczonego użytkownika, mającego spore doświadczenie: jeśli możesz zainterweniuj w tej sprawie. Czekam na odpowiedź od Ciebie na temat wszystkiego co Ci napisałem, oraz na Twoją decyzję. Z wyrazami szacunku dla doświadczonego użytkownika Paweł Alden or my talk page20:58, 3 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Wikipedia:Wikiquette alerts was nearly 300kb, so I archived some threads which were inactive, resolved, withdrawn, or referred elsewhere. Archives 39 and 40 are both over 100 kb now, Archive 41 is barely over 60kb with room for more.
I'm just letting you know, O saviour of bloated noticeboards, because I heard somewhere that the bot has to be told which archive to use next. Keep up the GREAT work! — Athaenara ✉ 05:50, 2 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Ah, okay. Thanks for clarifying - I didn't see anything on the WQA page that indicated how that worked. I'll pass that on to the person who asked about it. — KieferSkunk (talk) — 23:24, 5 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
That's quite irrelevant if you remember that the {{archive box}} template accepts a parameter auto=yes which auto-displays the list of archives as long as you use a standard naming of /Archive N. Миша1320:50, 3 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
How does displaying a list of archive page titles allow searching on the full text of the content of those pages? Or perhaps I do not understand your referent of "That". --Teratornis (talk) 21:28, 3 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Ah, I probably misunderstood - I read that as listing/indexing the archives and not searching. Interesting tip, thanks. Миша1320:45, 6 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Another editor has added the {{prod}} template to the article User talk:Rcooley/Archive 1, suggesting that it be deleted according to the proposed deletion process. All contributions are appreciated, but the editor doesn't believe it satisfies Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion, and has explained why in the article (see also Wikipedia:What Wikipedia is not and Wikipedia:Notability). Please either work to improve the article if the topic is worthy of inclusion in Wikipedia or discuss the relevant issues at [[Talk:User talk:Rcooley/Archive 1|its talk page]]. If you remove the {{prod}} template, the article will not be deleted, but note that it may still be sent to Wikipedia:Articles for deletion, where it may be deleted if consensus to delete is reached. BJBot (talk) 15:00, 6 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
We have changed the MiszaBot II settings on the page WT:IAR. Is it possible to force the bot to archive the page now? I understand that "force-refreshing" is not a tool you would want the public to have, but that talk page is over 300 KB long now. - Chardish (talk) 21:53, 6 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Archiving my talk page
Hi there. Just wanted to say thanks for fixing the archiving of my talk page; I couldn't work out why it wasn't working (I hadn't used the template correctly). I probably should have just asked you, but I see you noticed anyway and corrected it. Thanks again. :) Terraxos (talk) 03:04, 7 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Ah, ok, there doesn't need to be evidence for anything, as I simply copied the parameters from another page, without really knowing what I was doing. What can I do yo change it? Funkynusayri (talk) 22:29, 6 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
One way to do it is: rename Archive 3 as Archive 1 (using the Move tab), rename Archive 4 as Archive 2, then edit your User_talk so that 'counter=2' in the bot instructions. The bot will then archive any newly-expiring items into Archive 2, and it will automatically increment the counter from now on as the archives fill up. EdJohnston (talk) 20:04, 7 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Bot not archiving comments marked with {{unsigned}}
Hi Misza. Do you think you could edit the script to handle unsigned comments that are marked as such (e.g., [4])? I have tried both subst'ing the template, and directly using the template, but the bot does not recognize date stamp. If you need any help creating this, feel free to give me a shout; the changes should be fairly straight forward. —Preceding unsigned comment added by The Evil Spartan (talk • contribs) 17:12, 6 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Oh irony, you forgot you sign your own comment.
It shouldn't matter whether the template is substed or not as long as there is a timestamp in the format of "HH:MM, D Month YYYY (UTC)" in the page's code. That thread you mention is on the other hand only 3 days old, whereas the archiving configuration for that page is set to archive 30 day old messages. Its time will come soon enough. Миша1320:51, 6 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
This suggests that the use of {{unsigned}} with two parameters would allow the bot to take action, provided the time stamp is UTC. Even though that's a lot of typing. EdJohnston (talk) 21:33, 6 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
The auto-signing bot uses the two parameter version and so do I - it is a bit of a hassle to find the time of the post in page history (remember the "(UTC)") but I don't complain. Миша1321:37, 6 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Note the missing comma after the hour. <insert dumb face here> I can't possibly compensate for all variations, it's only a simple parser, you know... Миша1318:13, 8 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
See [6], the bot did wipe out the resolved issues section, though it didn't the last time. ??? Can you look into this? Thanks. — Rlevse • Talk • 12:22, 8 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I couldn't figure what was wrong, so I ran it manually on your talk page only. It sometimes just misses a page for a few days for unexplained reasons (I suspect it doesn't get extracted from Special:Whatlinkshere but am not sure - it's quite nondeterministic). Миша1322:01, 9 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
No, but it does look like a different bot. I checked the III log, and now I wonder if I broke something on my end. Items dated 2/26 should have been archived, but haven't yet. DarkAudit (talk) 20:23, 9 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Do I understand correctly that Miszabot cannot do a dated archive by size? Only numbered archive by size appears to work with current settings. --Brad (talk) 04:25, 11 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I think it's quite logical. If archives are named by date, then assuming it filled up to the specified maximum, where would the excess threads go? Миша1309:09, 11 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
My thoughts for a dated archive by size would be to report first topic date to last topic date within the alloted archive size. So if an archive started at 1 March 2008, filled by size on 15 March 2008 the next sized archive would start 15 March 2008 (If there were topics left over from 15 March that did not fit) and then dated when full, etc. So, a slower talk page might get something like an archive dated 12 January 2008 to 27 June 2008. --Brad (talk) 22:32, 11 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
"Dated when full" - that's the concept I didn't like when I designed the bot. That would most probably require it to move the page after it's closed - even with pywikipedia, the framework is still prone to errors and it often happens that it fails to either save an archive or the page (timeouts, edit conflicts, etc. - this is not a database and commits are not guaranteed to be atomic), not to mention having to execute an extra move. Миша1320:26, 13 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
This was changed today but the previous one was created on the 6th March and i had it set to archive my talkpage every 2 days so far the Archive bot hadn't archived my talkpage is there something wrong with the script previously, all the messages on my talkpage are very old now. TerraWhat do you want?21:30, 12 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I've updated the configuration on my talkpage, is there a chance if you could have a look at it, just to see if I've done it correctly, if I have I'll leave the script alone on my talkpage. TerraWhat do you want?12:48, 14 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
It's working, I wondered what happened to my messages when I logged back on. Anyway I'm glad that your bot is now archiving my talkpage, impressive, first time seeing it in action on my talkpage. TerraWhat do you want?14:58, 14 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Would it possible if you could tell me how to include my Global-Borders, this is the current configuration.
That won't work (the last setting for a parameter is effective). But how about |archiveheader = {{User:Terra/Global-Borders}} {{User:Terra/archivemessage}}? Миша1317:07, 15 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Done however though is there a chance if the bot could try it with the messages which I've placed the archivetop & archivebottom template from my talkpage or should we just wait until it goes through the next archive process, which would probably be tomorrow. TerraWhat do you want?18:31, 15 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Bot
Hello
Im planning to start a bot in the Telugu Wikipedia. Im completely new to bots and everything. could you just help me on how to set up your bot for the Telugu Wikipedia. I have the archivebot.py file which came with the pywikipedia framework. Σαι ( Talk) 06:28, 14 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
It's certainly not trivial. Basically, you'll need a "template" like User:MiszaBot/config to place on talk pages. Then you need to run the bot - in most cases something equivalent to (and assuming the bot is configured and logged in - see pywikipedia for step-by-step instructions on using the framework):
python archivebot.py 'User:MiszaBot/config'
should do fine. But the bot can do more - like working only in specified namespaces, only on a specified page etc. A full help can be obtained by running:
Hej Misza piszę do ciebie już z konkretną sprawą. Przejdę od razu do rzeczy: wczoraj o godzinie 21:09 dałem wpis do dyskusji M.K: [7] O 21:36 M.K zrewertował moją wypowiedź w, której po rozmowie z Piotrusem na prive zarzuciłem M.K nieznajomość historii polski (przeczytaj linki) Dzisiaj o 12:05 rewertowałem M.K, który skasował niepochlebne dla siebie rzeczy. Chcę Cię poprosić o to, abyś miał tego gościa na oku i w przypadku dalszego takiego działania usera M.K zablokował go. Jeżeli blokady nie będą pomagać wniosę spór do Arbitration Comitte. Czekam na odpowiedź najlepiej na mojej stronie dyskusji. Alden or talk with Alden12:16, 18 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Do tego doszło jeszcze, że Renata 3 sstraszy mnie blokadą za ataki osobiste. Misza naprawdę proszę Cię zrób coś z tym, bo ten trolling działa mi już na nerwy. Alden or talk with Alden14:59, 18 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I have had different problems getting the bot to run (thanks for the help you have already given) but it never seems to archive my talk page every day (for the last 3days), it seems to do it sporadically.
Could you take a look and see why it hasn't archived items that were posted on 8th March and the bot ran on 11th and 12 March.
P.S. I used to use Shadowbot3 to archive my talk pages but having shut down switched over to MiszabotIII. However I think the problem above may be that it is leaving the 5 most recent items in the talk page. Is it possible to set it not to have the last 5 items left. When I was using shadowbot3 it archived all of the items. Thanks Timclare(talk)(sign here)20:54, 18 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Depends on what you mean by "lately". It did visit you yesterday and I suspect it will today (in some 3 hours from now). Mind you, however, that it will only archive when there are at least 2 threads to be moved (the default value of the minthreadstoarchive variable - you can read more about them on User:MiszaBot/Archive HowTo#Parameters explained). If you however simply want less threads on your talk page then I suggest adjusting the algo=old(5d) part from 5 days to something less - I suppose 3 should be enough in your case (it means that threads that have the newest timestamp 3 or days older will be archived). Cheers, Миша1310:15, 22 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Obviously or not. :> I have updated the script to be configurable in this regard - please see User:Misza13/Scripts#statusChanger and scroll to the bottom of the section - it explains how to add new statuses (you'll have to update your template too). Миша1311:00, 24 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
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Hehe, here's where my laziness pays off - I was about to send it yesterday evening but was too lazy to do so and have put it up until today. Ok, waiting for signal. Миша1311:01, 24 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Is there any way I can make a section not be archived [short of removing timestamps], prehaps by writing "MiszaBot, do not archive! or some such? Whilst the rest of the page is archived? Thanks, Microchip0812:35, 24 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
There is no explicit tag, but I would add some extremely futuristic timestamp like <!-- 00:00, 1 January 3000 (UTC)--> - this way the thread should never (in this millennium anyway) age to be archived. A hack, but works.
I set up the bot code on this page. It ran once fine and then I went and changed the archive header. Since then it has not run. I made this change today to take out the archive header if that was the problem. Would you mind taking a peak and seeing if there is anything wrong. GtstrickyTalk or C15:07, 24 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Hi, yesterday I tried to set my talk page up to be archived by your bot. I'm not sure I've done it correctly. Would you mind checking, and, if something's wrong, either fixing it, or telling me how to do so? Thank you, AletaSing17:46, 24 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Since your script was my inspiration, I figure you might like to know about something that I am working on called: Qui. It is still a work in progress, not working on IE and with some HTML and CSS that still need some cleaning, but the basics works for now. Big smile to you !. --TheDJ (talk • contribs) 21:22, 24 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
There was possibly a screwup in edits made by the bot for Talk:Omega-3 fatty acid. See the revision history for that article. The bot's edit were reverted. I don't know what exactly could've gone wrong, but if you investigate, maybe you can find out if there was actually any problem, and fix it. --AB (talk) 14:55, 25 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Hungry? Here's a little snack for you on your birthday, from the Wikipedia Birthday Committee! Have a great day, Misza13!
I also vaguely remember giving you a "What a Brilliant Idea!" star for building Wdefcon/MiszaBot (although I rpobably should've used a Bot Builder star)... 21655 τalk/ ʃign18:00, 26 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
No specific CSD, just general housekeeping (you're free to call it pointless). Reversing your question, is there a reason to keep a redirect to a talk page that's not even referenced? Миша1322:07, 26 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
The problem is that normally archives should be strict subpages of page being archived. This is not the case, so the bot refuses to work. There are two solutions. The easier one is for me to provide a magic key that will unlock the restriction for that page. The appropriate one is to change the target to a subpage, i.e. archive = Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Aircraft/Archive %(counter)d and preferably move all previous archives, so they can be auto-indexed using {{archive box}}. Let me know which you prefer and if you decide on moving old archives, I can run a bot that will batch-move them. Миша1317:53, 27 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
If it's not too much hassle, could you please run the bot and relocate the old archives? Setting up "special case" exemptions is too often a recipe for disaster in the future...! --Rlandmann (talk) 07:24, 28 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Now that Miszabot's being rewritten, I have a feature request. I think I requested it early last year, but now that it's being rewritten it would be a good time for me to ask again. It would be nice if one could change the {{archive}} template at the top of archived pages, and instead have it use a different one via the configuration template. It's always a pain to have to change it every month (the "current talkpage" link never points to the real talk page). Cheers, tim.bounceback14:18, 30 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I thinks that's already supported to a degree that should satisfy your needs. There is an archiveheader parameter. It uses {{talkarchive}} as default, which (I think) correctly points to the real current talk (ever since it's been fixed). Can you point out an example where it doesn't work and required manual intervention? Миша1314:31, 30 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Hi, I'm trying to set up archivebot.py on nowiki, but it fails as we use a different date format.
We use the follwing format:
30. mar 2008 kl. 18:36 (CEST)
This is the same time as
16:36, 30 March 2008 (UTC)
Note that the month names are localized, the months being "jan, feb, mar, apr, mai, jun, jul, aug, sep, okt, nov and des" and that the timezone varies between CET and CEST.
Ah, that's because "Metros232" is on the participant list, which is why "Metros" on the opt-out didn't exclude you from delivery. When the delivery list was ready, the bot just followed a redirect and didn't double-check against the list again. Meh, a rare bug. Миша1319:06, 31 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I am in desperate need of help with the proper code to have MiszaBot archive my user talk page. My intention is to have the bot archive my page based on time, say every 15 days. Is this the proper code to use:
{{User:MiszaBot/config
|algo = old(15d)
|archive = User talk:Ukexpat/Archives/%(year)d/%(monthname)s
}}
Do I need to manually create the archive subpage(s) or does the bot create it automatically? Do I need a "counter" option so that the various archive pages are created or archived to incrementally? Help please!!! Thanks. – ukexpat (talk) 17:39, 31 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
The above looks perfectly fine to me. The bot will create the subpages on its own. Also, the counter is irrelevant when you use an archive naming scheme based on thread date, so must not be specified. Миша1317:59, 31 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
