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Where to now?

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@Mako001, EEng, Gusfriend, Trainsandotherthings, Fram, and Mackensen: besides a few GARs, I can find no indication there was sustained followup per this discussion. Have I missed something? Now that we know Coldwell will persist via socks, I have some ideas of further things that might be proposed, and would appreciate feedback. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 14:50, 20 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Myself and Gusfriend have put some of his train-related stuff through GAR and it was all delisted, but there hasn't been a sustained effort. Also pinging User:Sammi Brie as another editor who may be interested. Trainsandotherthings (talk) 14:56, 20 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Hog Farm do you want in on this, or too busy? SandyGeorgia (Talk) 15:15, 20 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I'll at least follow along, although I don't know how much I'll be able to help out. I was the reviewer of some of his GANs back in 2020 and 2021 for background, although I did fail a few. FWIW, the CCI is longer than what you thought - there's also Wikipedia:Contributor copyright investigations/20210315 02. Hog Farm Talk 15:42, 20 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Well, fiddlesticks ... I entered info on the wrong CCI. Why oh why was this not stopped sooner <sigh>. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 16:01, 20 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Because of excessive deference to someone assumed to be one of the website's best and most prolific contributors (as you can see from the history of the ANIs, people flipped their shit when the full extent of Doug's wrongdoing became clear, crying that the community was trying to punish a prolific and "skilled" editor). I was attacked by at least one of his defenders, despite saying multiple times I preferred to resolve the issue without a block. Even when people occasionally spotted issues before all of this came to light, they were unwilling to investigate further, assuming that someone of Coldwell's stature would not be making systematic errors such as copyvio, excessive reliance on very old and/or primary sources, and factual inaccuracies. That attitude of deference and hand-waving his stuff through GAN with minimal scrutiny is how we got here. It's no surprise Coldwell never engaged with FA; his shoddy editing would certainly have been exposed there. The good news is this seems to have prompted a reckoning and much greater emphasis on spot-checking at GAN. Trainsandotherthings (talk) 16:25, 20 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I might as well say that the attacks on you (and now me) are probably part of what has motivated my interest. What an abject failure of ANI to act when it should have. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 16:41, 20 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I'm having a hard time finding the past similar occurrences at DYK, so may have to let that go, but no one in the thread I started at DYK picked up on or addressed the issue of how to prevent same going forward. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 16:42, 20 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Does anyone know who has been the main CCI admin on this case? I don't want to ping all of them and wear out my welcome. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 16:06, 20 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I don't know that there's been a main one. The nature of the case leads to a lot of it either being things nobody can access or unsourced text from who-knows-where that can't be tracked down. It's kinda fizzled out because nobody's wanted to just start presumptively removing swathes of stuff. Hog Farm Talk 16:08, 20 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@Sennecaster: do you want to follow the proposals I've listed here? Should I ping in other CCI regulars? SandyGeorgia (Talk) 16:15, 20 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@SandyGeorgia: Sorry for the late reply; I'm currently very busy, but if other CCI editors say it's good I'm fine with it. Sennecaster (Chat) 14:46, 24 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Well, we should "start presumptively removing swathes of stuff", because it's all bad enough to warrant that, and most of it is not in topics the average reader cares about. Does anyone know where to follow up on the notion that we did the same with Neelix? SandyGeorgia (Talk) 16:18, 20 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I'm of the opinion that it makes precisely zero difference how many readers care about the stuff he writes about in any given article. If it's inaccurate and/or copyvio, it must be removed with extreme prejudice. We owe it to our readers. At least for his train-related stuff, as one of the most prolific editors on train-related matters in the Eastern U.S., I fully endorse presumptive removals and stubbification of his articles as needed. I don't really have the time or energy to rewrite these articles (my to-do list is already massive), but if anyone ever has interest they certainly can start from a basic stub. Trainsandotherthings (talk) 16:30, 20 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
My reference point on this is User:Oanabay04, who was prolific on railroad articles, particularly those around the Philadelphia area. He also committed massive serial copyright violations, socked, wrote things that citations didn't support, and injected his own personal opinion as though it were fact. After a while I took the line that anything he contributed was presumptively bad--if it was prose and we didn't find the source, it was probably a copyvio regardless. If he claimed he took the picture and it wasn't something from the last two years with an EXIF date, it was a copyvio even if we never found the original. This resulted in whole articles getting deleted or stubbed, even on notable topics. Articles on Class I railroads were rolled back years to remove his copyvios from the history. This was terrible and disruptive and I think the best option available. If you don't trust what a contributor was doing, then you should remove their contributions.
I agree with the areas that Sandy has singled out. We need to delist his GAs; that's a badge of quality we as a project can't endorse. That discussion is in progress. With the CCIs, I think we're aggressive about deleting or stubbing articles where he was the primary contributor. That's work and it's tiresome. I'll volunteer for some of it and I'm happy to play bad cop. One final thing: Doug's blocked indefinitely and he's socking. We should formalize a community ban so that further socking can be reverted and deleted on sight. That can probably happen in the existing ANI thread. Mackensen (talk) 17:23, 20 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I'm unsure what step to take next then. Do you have a link that I can use to summarize the Oanabay04 situation? Of do I just post my Sandbox content to the ANI? Prob is the community ban discussion can happen at ANI, but the rest needs to go elsewhere ... not sure what process to use going forward on the whole picture, but I can see I'm likely to end up attacked at ANI as was Trainsandotherthings, so want to do this right. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 17:30, 20 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Here are the links; it helped that this was a narrower problem:
Mackensen (talk) 17:41, 20 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Oanabay04 is familiar to me, as in October 2021 I found that much of both Pan Am Railways and Atchison, Topeka and Santa Fe Railway were copyvios from books added by him. I and others rewrote the affected portions of Pan Am, but ATSF is still gutted, the first 100 years of its history is completely missing. Mackensen has a subpage dedicated to cataloguing the extent of copyvio from one of George Drury's books added by Oanabay. Trainsandotherthings (talk) 17:39, 20 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Initial proposals

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I've put my initial ideas at User:SandyGeorgia/sandbox9#Proposals for discussion.

More to come, but I need to do some homework going back more than 10 years (it's not like this is the first or even second time this has happened at DYK, yet nothing done).

I strongly disagree that moving forward on this will encourage Coldwell to become an WP:LTA; he is what he already is, and his personality isn't that hard to understand. He's going to be an LTA regardless, and that's no reason not to clean up the mess.

Feedback on the ideas I've started? How/where to gain consensus ... an RFC in what space ? SandyGeorgia (Talk) 15:18, 20 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@SandyGeorgia I would support proposals 1 and 2 (no comment yet on the other two) but 2 won't need a community consensus; since Doug's articles are already at CCI they can be presumptively deleted/stubbed under WP:PDEL. Ideally the articles would be delisted before they are deleted or stubbed. I believe that proposing those at ANI is the right way to go. Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents/CCI, about the Darius Dhlomo CCI and subsequent cleanup, is the closest example of a big wide scale cleanup like the one here. I don't mean to reopen old wounds, but was a similar cleanup done during the Rlvese/PumpkinSky investigation? Moneytrees🏝️(Talk) 18:14, 20 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I just changed the numbering :) SandyGeorgia (Talk) 18:19, 20 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
PS, Moneytrees I missed your earlier question. Not gonna touch the Rlevse thing, thank you :) Not a good example to use anyway, but the gratuitous scars and fallout endure. That, along with the three other sockmasters working together and being able to take apart WP:FAC, from which it never recovered. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 23:01, 20 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

List of GAs

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List of 223 GAs by Doug Coldwell

Found 223 successful nominations (GA promotion dates are given in brackets):

  • William Buchanan (locomotive designer) (2022-09-05)
  • George Henry Daniels (2022-08-30)
  • Thomas Hall (inventor) (2022-08-25)
  • William Phillips Hall (2022-08-24)
  • Thomas Seavey Hall (2022-08-23)
  • Daniel Davis Jr. (2022-08-21)
  • Charles Grafton Page (2022-08-19)
  • Benjamin D. Wood (2022-08-12)
  • James L. Buie (2022-08-03)
  • Thomas Hall (mechanic) (2022-08-03)
  • John Ratcliff (bookbinder) (2022-07-03)
  • Lambert Automobile Company (2022-07-02)
  • Star Watch Case Company (2022-06-30)
  • John Johnson (inventor) (2022-06-17)
  • Alexander S. Wolcott (2022-06-14)
  • Union Automobile Company (2022-06-12)
  • William Goddard (publisher) (2022-06-10)
  • Lambert Gas and Gasoline Engine Company (2022-06-07)
  • Union (automobile) (2022-06-04)
  • Joseph Nathan Kane (2022-05-05)
  • Michigan Limestone and Chemical Company (2022-04-16)
  • Wawatam Lighthouse (2022-03-14)
  • SS Chief Wawatam (2022-03-04)
  • Mary F. Hoyt (2022-02-26)
  • Caroline Reboux (2022-02-18)
  • Lambert (automobile) (2022-02-18)
  • Manistee Watch Company (2022-02-04)
  • SS Jacona (1918) (2022-01-28)
  • Joseph Royle (2022-01-12)
  • Isaac Collins (printer) (2022-01-10)
  • William Bradford (printer, born 1663) (2022-01-09)
  • John Holt (publisher) (2022-01-03)
  • William E. Sawyer (2022-01-02)
  • William Parks (publisher) (2022-01-02)
  • Elizabeth Timothy (2021-12-19)
  • Albert Kahn (architect) (2021-10-25)
  • James Parker (publisher) (2021-10-21)
  • Warren Antoine Cartier (2021-10-12)
  • David Hall (printer) (2021-10-06)
  • Mackinac College (2021-09-30)
  • Jane Aitken (2021-09-21)
  • Delos L. Filer (2021-09-21)
  • William Hunter (publisher) (2021-09-17)
  • Louis Timothee (2021-09-12)
  • Antoine Ephrem Cartier (2021-09-08)
  • Alexander Bain (inventor) (2021-09-08)
  • Effie Maud Aldrich Morrison (2021-09-08)
  • Charles F. Conrad (2021-09-06)
  • William Hamlin (2021-09-05)
  • Ruth M. Gardiner (2021-09-04)
  • Alexander Purdie (publisher) (2021-09-04)
  • Thomas Elfe (2021-09-02)
  • Charles Mears (2021-09-02)
  • John B. Curtis (2021-09-02)
  • George Livermore (2021-09-02)
  • Virginia Mae Brown (2021-09-02)
  • Electro-Dynamic Light Company (2021-09-02)
  • Joseph Dart (2021-08-21)
  • Daniel Frank Gerber (2021-08-14)
  • Albon Man (2021-07-29)
  • John Caldwell (Michigan representative) (2021-07-26)
  • Flat Top Manor (2021-07-19)
  • Demarest Building (2021-07-18)
  • Henry Fitz (2021-07-17)
  • Linda Finch (2021-07-17)
  • Moses H. Cone (2021-07-17)
  • Royal Page Davidson (2021-07-11)
  • Harlan Page Davidson (2021-07-11)
  • Lilly Daché (2021-07-10)
  • François Coignet (2021-07-10)
  • Gottfried Schloemer (2021-07-08)
  • Amasa Holcomb (2021-07-07)
  • Josiah Holbrook (2021-07-07)
  • Thornwell Jacobs (2021-07-07)
  • Cone sisters (2021-07-05)
  • Archibald Spencer (2021-07-05)
  • Charles A. Cheever (2021-07-05)
  • Alec Sutherland (2021-07-04)
  • Austin Cornelius Dunham (2021-07-02)
  • Juliana R. Force (2021-07-01)
  • John Mason Loomis (2021-06-25)
  • Charles Corydon Hall (2021-06-18)
  • Gertrude Hull (2021-06-11)
  • Thaddeus Fairbanks (2021-05-25)
  • W. Wallace Kellett (2021-05-25)
  • Carl Breer (2021-05-19)
  • Anthony Harkness (2021-05-17)
  • Frederick Morrell Zeder (2021-05-06)
  • Sidney Howe Short (2021-05-04)
  • Charles Townsend Ludington (2021-05-04)
  • Giovanni Caselli (2021-04-28)
  • Paul Rapsey Hodge (2021-03-31)
  • Buckeye gasoline buggy (2021-03-30)
  • Burr Caswell (2021-03-29)
  • Daniel Cragin Mill (2021-03-29)
  • John William Lambert (2021-03-29)
  • Nels Johnson (2021-03-27)
  • George A. Mitchell (2021-03-27)
  • Thomas Jefferson Ramsdell (2021-03-27)
  • The Three Musketeers (Studebaker engineers) (2021-03-27)
  • House of Flavors (2021-03-26)
  • Clam Lake Canal (2021-03-25)
  • Crypt of Civilization (2021-03-22)
  • Mary E. Clarke (2021-03-19)
  • Charles Dinsmoor (2021-03-17)
  • Benjamin Loxley (2021-03-16)
  • Owen Ray Skelton (2021-03-14)
  • Benjamin Loxley house (2021-03-14)
  • Abraham Lincoln's patent (2021-03-13)
  • Robert Grace (2021-03-12)
  • Moses Bensinger (2021-03-11)
  • Eber Brock Ward (2021-03-08)
  • Schuyler Wheeler (2021-03-07)
  • Justus Smith Stearns (2021-03-07)
  • Marianne Means (2021-03-05)
  • George Edward Hilt (2021-03-04)
  • Alexander Bonner Latta (2021-02-24)
  • Lewis Ludington (2021-01-13)
  • John Stuart Skinner (2021-01-04)
  • Eleonora de Cisneros (2020-12-23)
  • Jacob Earl Fickel (2020-12-09)
  • Elizabeth Plankinton (2020-11-16)
  • Ludington family (2020-11-12)
  • Merkel Landis (2020-11-03)
  • William Austin Burt (2020-11-02)
  • Marvin Pipkin (2020-11-01)
  • SweeTango (2020-10-31)
  • Michigan logging wheels (2020-10-31)
  • Birdsill Holly (2020-10-29)
  • William Beanes (2020-10-29)
  • John Ward Westcott (2020-10-29)
  • Richard Henry Park (2020-10-28)
  • Robert Logan (naval architect) (2020-10-27)
  • Frank Fowler Loomis (2020-10-23)
  • Thomas Johnston (engraver) (2020-10-23)
  • George Huebner (2020-10-20)
  • George W. Hotchkiss (2020-10-19)
  • Ludington Public Library (2020-10-19)
  • William L. Mercereau (2020-10-17)
  • Automatic scorer (2020-10-15)
  • Mary Myers (2020-10-11)
  • Nelson Ludington (2020-10-10)
  • Persis Foster Eames Albee (2020-10-10)
  • Charles T. Pepper (2020-10-09)
  • John Jonathon Pratt (2020-10-08)
  • Albert P. Halfhill (2020-10-07)
  • William Rath (2020-10-06)
  • George F. Lewis (2020-10-06)
  • Eli Parsons Royce (2020-10-06)
  • William Plankinton Mansion (2020-10-05)
  • Mary Florence Potts (2020-10-04)
  • John Dwight (manufacturer) (2020-10-04)
  • Joseph Hobson (2020-10-03)
  • John Plankinton (2020-10-03)
  • Elizabeth Plankinton House (2020-10-03)
  • Cellarette (2020-10-02)
  • William Plankinton (2020-10-02)
  • Typographer (typewriter) (2020-10-01)
  • Mario Peruzzi (2020-09-20)
  • Westinghouse Time Capsules (2020-09-16)
  • 1836 U.S. Patent Office fire (2020-09-15)
  • William A. Starrett (2020-09-13)
  • Burt's solar compass (2020-08-30)
  • Austin Church (2020-08-24)
  • Frederick Langenheim (2020-08-23)
  • Statue of John Plankinton (2020-08-22)
  • Holly Steam Combination Company (2020-08-22)
  • Edwin S. Votey (2020-07-21)
  • Stanhope Medal (2020-07-09)
  • Joseph Ray Watkins (2020-06-27)
  • 1877 U.S. Patent Office fire (2020-06-20)
  • McLean House (Appomattox, Virginia) (2020-06-14)
  • Henry L. Haskell (2020-06-10)
  • Benson raft (2020-06-09)
  • Jeremiah Dwyer (2020-06-09)
  • Eureka Iron & Steel Works (2020-06-06)
  • Clover Hill Tavern (2020-06-04)
  • Old Appomattox Court House (2020-06-01)
  • Penny Penates (2020-05-30)
  • Appomattox Court House National Historical Park (2020-05-30)
  • Archibald Cary Smith (2020-05-27)
  • Wilhelm Victor Alfred Tepe (2020-05-25)
  • Whitcomb L. Judson (2020-05-24)
  • George Crowninshield Jr. (2020-05-24)
  • SS Pere Marquette (2020-05-22)
  • Music House Museum (2020-05-22)
  • The Queen's Messenger (2020-05-22)
  • William R. Farrand (2020-05-16)
  • George Edward Pendray (2020-05-12)
  • Oliver B. Shallenberger (2020-05-12)
  • Eugenia Tucker Fitzgerald (2020-05-11)
  • Eliot Indian Bible (2020-05-09)
  • Prospect House (Hamilton County, New York) (2020-05-07)
  • Haskell Manufacturing Company (2020-05-01)
  • St. Edward's Catholic Church (2020-04-30)
  • Corbett's electrostatic machine (2020-04-29)
  • Ralph Waldo Trine (2020-04-23)
  • Yampa (yacht) (2020-04-20)
  • Pere Marquette Lumber Company (2020-04-19)
  • Jakob Nacken (2020-04-18)
  • Meteor III (2020-04-16)
  • Birth of public radio broadcasting (2020-04-15)
  • Michigan Stove Company (2020-04-14)
  • World's Largest Stove (2020-04-12)
  • Detroit News Orchestra (2020-04-11)
  • George Harrison Barbour (2020-04-09)
  • Farrand & Votey Organ Company (2020-04-08)
  • Raymond W. Bliss (2020-03-09)
  • Wistarburg Glass Works (2018-02-10)
  • Haskelite Manufacturing Corporation (2018-02-10)
  • Carrom Company (2018-01-21)
  • James Ludington (2018-01-21)
  • White Pine Village (2018-01-01)
  • Electric fire engine (2017-09-24)
  • Experiments and Observations on Electricity (2017-06-05)
  • Franklin's electrostatic machine (2017-02-06)
  • Tiny Town (miniature park) (2017-01-11)
  • Dresden Codex (2017-01-04)
  • Army and Navy Union of the United States of America (2016-10-19)
  • Hammer Historical Collection of Incandescent Electric Lamps (2016-10-08)
  • Dean Smith (pilot) (2016-09-07)
  • Carl Edgar Myers (2016-03-11)
  • Conclusion of the American Civil War (2009-03-08)

Taken from here. None of the associated accounts appear to have any nominations. Moneytrees🏝️(Talk) 17:50, 20 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Everything Doug Coldwell had listed as an "achievement"
  1. 1185 East Midlands earthquake
  2. 1836 U.S. Patent Office fire
  3. 1848 United States presidential election
  4. 1877 U.S. Patent Office fire
  5. 1877 U. S. Patent Office fire
  6. 18th century
  7. 1906 San Francisco earthquake
  8. 1939 New York World's Fair
  9. 1954 Pulitzer Prize
  10. 1964 New York World's Fair
  11. A Stillness at Appomattox
  12. Aaron T. Demarest
  13. Ablaq
  14. Abraham Lincoln
  15. Abraham Lincoln's patent
  16. Accident
  17. Accolade
  18. Adhesive bandage
  19. Advice column
  20. Aesop's Fables
  21. African American
  22. Agricultural Museum (periodical)
  23. Alaska lunar sample displays
  24. Albert Kahn (architect)
  25. Albert Kahn Associates
  26. Albert P. Halfhill
  27. Albon Man
  28. Alec Sutherland
  29. Alexander Bain (inventor)
  30. Alexander Bonner Latta
  31. Alexander Purdie (publisher)
  32. Alexander S. Wolcott
  33. Alexander S. Wolcott (inventor)
  34. Alfred Charles Garratt
  35. Alfred the Great
  36. Alloy
  37. Almanac
  38. Amasa Holcomb
  39. Amelia Earhart
  40. American Astronautical Society
  41. American Civil War
  42. American Journal of Archaeology
  43. American Library Association
  44. American Motor League
  45. American Revolution
  46. Americas
  47. Amharic
  48. Amicable Society for a Perpetual Assurance Office
  49. Amish
  50. Angharad ferch Owain
  51. Anne Frank's diary
  52. Anthony Harkness
  53. Antimonial cup
  54. Antimony
  55. Antoine Ephrem Cartier
  56. Apollo 11 lunar sample display
  57. Apollo 17 lunar sample display
  58. Appomattox, Virginia
  59. Appomattox Court House National Historical Park
  60. Appomattox Court House National Historical Park cemeteries
  61. Appomattox Court House National Historical Park ruins
  62. Arabic language
  63. Archaic Homo sapiens
  64. Archeological
  65. Archeologists
  66. Archibald Cary Smith
  67. Archibald Spencer
  68. Archie J. Old Jr.
  69. Arkansas lunar sample displays
  70. Arm & Hammer (brand)
  71. Army and Navy Union of the United States of America
  72. Asheville, North Carolina
  73. Augustinian
  74. Austin Church
  75. Austin Cornelius Dunham
  76. Autogyro
  77. Automatic scorer
  78. Automobile
  79. Avon Products
  80. Baldassarre Bonaiuti
  81. Band-Aid
  82. Bank of America
  83. Barrel
  84. Bascule bridge
  85. Bathsheba's spring and bower
  86. Beak doctor costume
  87. Beatriz Enriquez de Arana
  88. Bell (instrument)
  89. Bellifortis
  90. Benedikt Kotruljevic
  91. Benjamin D. Wood
  92. Benjamin Franklin
  93. Benjamin Hale (educator)
  94. Benjamin Hanks
  95. Benjamin Loxley
  96. Benjamin Loxley house
  97. Benson raft
  98. Bernard Courtois
  99. Bernard H. Paul
  100. Bessemer steel
  101. Bibliography
  102. Bibliotheca universalis
  103. Birdsill Holly
  104. Birth of public radio broadcasting
  105. Blab school
  106. Black Death
  107. Blue Mountain Lake (New York)
  108. Blue Ridge Parkway
  109. Blue Ridge Parkway tunnels
  110. Bocock-Isbell House
  111. Bombsights
  112. Bottle wall
  113. Brasserie
  114. Brazil lunar sample displays
  115. British Academy of Songwriters, Composers and Authors
  116. British Army
  117. Bronze Star Medal
  118. Bruce Catton
  119. Buckeye Manufacturing Company
  120. Buckeye gasoline buggy
  121. Burr Caswell
  122. Burt's solar compass
  123. C. C. Beall
  124. COVID-19 pandemic
  125. Cadillac, Michigan
  126. Cadwallon ap Gruffydd
  127. Café Philosophique
  128. Caldey Island
  129. California
  130. California lunar sample displays
  131. Callimachus
  132. Camelhair
  133. Cameline
  134. Canada lunar sample displays
  135. Cannon
  136. Car cooler
  137. Carl Breer
  138. Carl Edgar Myers
  139. Carl Johan Cronstedt
  140. Caroline Reboux
  141. Carrom Company
  142. Cashmere wool
  143. Catcher pouch
  144. Celia M. Burleigh
  145. Cellarette
  146. Century tower clocks
  147. Chandos Scudamore Scudamore Stanhope
  148. Charlemagne
  149. Charles A. Cheever
  150. Charles Brady King
  151. Charles Calvert, 5th Baron Baltimore
  152. Charles Corydon Hall
  153. Charles Dinsmoor
  154. Charles F. Conrad
  155. Charles Grafton Page
  156. Charles IX of France
  157. Charles Lindbergh
  158. Charles Mears
  159. Charles Sweeney Cabin
  160. Charles T. Pepper
  161. Charles Townsend Ludington
  162. Charles de Lorme
  163. Charleston, South Carolina
  164. Charlie H. Hogan
  165. Charlotte Guillard
  166. Chester H. Pond
  167. Chewing gum
  168. Children's books
  169. Christian Bible
  170. Christian Linger
  171. Christmas club
  172. Christmas stocking
  173. Christoph Martin Wieland
  174. Christopher Columbus
  175. Christopher Werner
  176. Chrysler
  177. Chrysler Corporation
  178. Cincinnati
  179. Claire Giannini Hoffman
  180. Clam Lake Canal
  181. Clarence Saunders
  182. Cloth of St Gereon
  183. Clover Hill Tavern
  184. Clwydian Range
  185. Colonial Williamsburg
  186. Colorado lunar sample displays
  187. Colosseum
  188. Columbus's Letter on the First Voyage
  189. Columbus, Wisconsin
  190. Commissioner
  191. Conclusion of the American Civil War
  192. Cone Mills Corporation
  193. Cone sisters
  194. Confederate States of America
  195. Conrad Gesner
  196. Conrad Gessner
  197. Conrad Hubert
  198. Conscript Fathers
  199. Conscription
  200. Continental Army
  201. Continuous track
  202. Corbett's electrostatic machine
  203. Cordelia E Cook
  204. Cornell University School of Hotel Administration
  205. CorningWare
  206. Corrosion
  207. Countess
  208. Court-martial
  209. Cromwell's Soldiers' Pocket Bible
  210. Cronaca fiorentina di Marchionne di Coppo Stefani
  211. Cronica Walliae
  212. Crosshairs
  213. Crypt of Civilization
  214. Cryptanalyst
  215. Cryptography
  216. Cultured diamonds
  217. Curfew bell
  218. Cybercafe
  219. Cyprus lunar sample displays
  220. Daniel Cragin Mill
  221. Daniel Davis Jr.
  222. Daniel Frank Gerber
  223. Daniel Kievsky
  224. Daniel Van Meter
  225. Dart's Elevator
  226. David Hall (printer)
  227. David Hall (publisher)
  228. Davidson-Cadillac armored car
  229. Davidson-Duryea gun carriage
  230. Davidson Auto Battery armored car
  231. Dean Smith (pilot)
  232. Deianira
  233. Delaware lunar sample displays
  234. Della mercatura e del mercante perfetto
  235. Delos L. Filer
  236. Demarest Building
  237. Denim
  238. Detroit
  239. Detroit News Orchestra
  240. Dictes and Sayings of the Philosophers
  241. Dimitri Navachine
  242. Dionigi di Borgo San Sepolcro
  243. Dirigible
  244. District heating
  245. Dixi Crosby
  246. Dokos shipwreck
  247. Dome
  248. Douglas MacArthur
  249. Dr Pepper
  250. Dresden Codex
  251. Driftwood
  252. Dunes Forest Village
  253. Dwight D. Eisenhower
  254. Dyserth Castle
  255. Earthquake
  256. Eber Brock Ward
  257. Eberhard I, Duke of Württemberg
  258. Edith Ellen Greenwood
  259. Edmondston-Alston House
  260. Edwin S. Votey
  261. Effie Maud Aldrich Morrison
  262. Electric fire engine
  263. Electricity meter
  264. Electro-Dynamic Light Company
  265. Electronic waste by country
  266. Electroplating
  267. Electrotherapy
  268. Eleonora de Cisneros
  269. Eli Parsons Royce
  270. Eliot Indian Bible
  271. Elizabeth Burchinal
  272. Elizabeth Plankinton
  273. Elizabeth Plankinton House
  274. Elizabeth Timothy
  275. Ellen Fitz Pendleton
  276. Elton John
  277. Empire State Building
  278. Energy conversion efficiency
  279. Engine
  280. England
  281. English words first attested in Chaucer
  282. Engraver
  283. Ennigaldi-Nanna's museum
  284. Ennigaldi (Ennigaldi-Nanna)
  285. Enrico Caruso
  286. Epic poetry
  287. Equatorial sextant
  288. Erie J. Sauder
  289. Escanaba, Michigan
  290. Espionage
  291. Ethiopia
  292. Eugene Turenne Gregorie
  293. Eugenia Tucker Fitzgerald
  294. Eureka Iron & Steel Works
  295. Experiment (horse powered boat)
  296. Experiments and Observations on Electricity
  297. Factorum ac dictorum memorabilium libri IX
  298. Fairbanks Scales
  299. Farrand & Votey Organ Company
  300. Fathometer
  301. Filmmaker
  302. Fire engine
  303. Fishkill, New York
  304. Fittja gård
  305. Flash-lamp
  306. Flat Top Manor
  307. Floating Power
  308. Folk Art Center
  309. Folk art
  310. Folklife
  311. Folly
  312. Footprint
  313. Footprints of Eve
  314. Ford Motor Company
  315. Fort Sumter
  316. Fossil
  317. Fountain of Youth
  318. Fountain pen
  319. Four-Track News
  320. Francesco Petrarch
  321. Francesco Procopio dei Coltelli
  322. Frank Atwood Huntington
  323. Frank Daniel Gerber
  324. Frank Fowler Loomis
  325. Frank H. Winter
  326. Frank Toepfer
  327. Franklin's electrostatic machine
  328. Franklin stove
  329. Franz Johann Joseph Bock
  330. François Coignet
  331. Frederick, Prince of Wales
  332. Frederick Langenheim
  333. Frederick Morrell Zeder
  334. Fremont Canning Company
  335. Friedrich Wilhelm Mengelberg
  336. Fuse (explosives)
  337. Galoshes
  338. Gardiner Lyceum
  339. Garnet
  340. Gauguin
  341. General Electric
  342. General Land Office
  343. General Prologue of the Wycliffe Bible
  344. Gentlemen's club
  345. George A. Mitchell
  346. George Crowninshield Jr.
  347. George Edward Hilt
  348. George Edward Pendray
  349. George Escol Sellers
  350. George F. Lewis
  351. George Harrison Barbour
  352. George Henry Daniels
  353. George Huebner
  354. George J. Seabury
  355. George Livermore
  356. George Ronan
  357. George W. Hotchkiss
  358. George Washington
  359. George Washington Air Junction
  360. Georgia Cayvan
  361. Gerber Baby
  362. German Emperor Wilhelm II
  363. Gertrude Hull
  364. Gertrude Stein
  365. Giovanni Caselli
  366. Giovanni Soro
  367. Giovanni de Ventura
  368. Glass
  369. Glass Pavilion
  370. Golden Age Passport
  371. Gothic Revival architecture
  372. Gottfried Schloemer
  373. Gourmet
  374. Guild of St. Bernulphus
  375. Hadley Field
  376. Hairspring
  377. Hamburger Feuerkasse
  378. Hammer Historical Collection of Incandescent Electric Lamps
  379. Hammond Electric Bridge Table
  380. Hammond Typewriter
  381. Harlan Page Davidson
  382. Harness race
  383. Harold Horton Sheldon
  384. Harrison Gray Dyar
  385. Hartford Electric Light Company
  386. Harvard College
  387. Harvey Firestone
  388. Haskelite
  389. Haskelite Manufacturing Corporation
  390. Haskell Manufacturing Company
  391. Haskell canoe
  392. Hawaii lunar sample displays
  393. Heinrich Steinhowel
  394. Henry Clay Fry
  395. Henry Fitz
  396. Henry Ford
  397. Henry III of France
  398. Henry IV of France
  399. Henry I of England
  400. Henry Knighton
  401. Henry L. Haskell
  402. Henry Ludington
  403. Henry Pitkin
  404. Heracles
  405. Herbert Grove Dorsey
  406. Hezekiah Usher
  407. Historiae animalium (Gesner)
  408. History of the Netherlands (1939–1945)
  409. Holly Steam Combination Company
  410. Honduras lunar sample displays
  411. Hot and Hot Fish Club
  412. House of Flavors
  413. Howard B. Meek
  414. Hy-Rib
  415. Hybla Valley Airport
  416. I.O.O.F. Centennial Building
  417. IDT Megabite Cafe
  418. Illinois lunar sample displays
  419. Independence Day (United States)
  420. Integrated circuit
  421. International Time Capsule Society
  422. Interstate Commerce Commission
  423. Invention
  424. Iodine
  425. Iole
  426. Ireland lunar sample displays
  427. Irish immigrants
  428. Isaac Collins (printer)
  429. Isaac Dripps
  430. Iwo Jima
  431. Jacob Earl Fickel
  432. Jacques Cartier
  433. Jakob Nacken
  434. James Earl Jones
  435. James Hood Wright
  436. James L. Buie
  437. James Ludington
  438. James Parker (publisher)
  439. Jane Aitken
  440. Jayco, Inc
  441. Jefferson (yacht)
  442. Jenny Lind
  443. Jenny Lind private railroad car
  444. Jeremiah Dwyer
  445. Jet aircraft
  446. Joe Rosenthal
  447. Johann Heinrich Tischbein
  448. John B. Curtis
  449. John Buttencourt Avila
  450. John Caldwell (Michigan representative)
  451. John Caldwell (Michigan state representative)
  452. John Clemm
  453. John Dwight (manufacturer)
  454. John Henry Devereux
  455. John Holt (publisher)
  456. John J. Makinen Bottle House
  457. John Johnson (inventor)
  458. John Jonathon Pratt
  459. John Mason Loomis
  460. John Peirce
  461. John Plankinton
  462. John Plankinton statue
  463. John Ratcliff
  464. John Ratcliff (bookbinder)
  465. John Stuart Skinner
  466. John Ward Westcott
  467. John William Lambert
  468. John Wycliffe
  469. Johnson & Johnson
  470. Jones Law Office
  471. Joseph Dart
  472. Joseph Hobson
  473. Joseph Nathan Kane
  474. Joseph Ray Watkins
  475. Joseph Royle
  476. Joseph Royle (publisher)
  477. Josiah Holbrook
  478. Journal
  479. Julian Price
  480. Julian Price Memorial Park
  481. Juliana R. Force
  482. Julius Kahn (inventor)
  483. Juozas Gabrys
  484. Justin Butterfield
  485. Justus Smith Stearns
  486. Kahn System
  487. Keedoozle
  488. King Richard I of England
  489. King Rother
  490. Kingdom of Gwynedd
  491. Kitch-iti-kipi
  492. Kite experiment
  493. Knighthood
  494. Kosher
  495. Laboratory
  496. Lake Michigan
  497. Lambert (automobile)
  498. Lambert Automobile Company
  499. Lambert Gas and Gasoline Engine Company
  500. Lambert friction gearing disk drive transmission
  501. Land speculation
  502. Larry Paul Kelley
  503. Leverett Candee
  504. Lewis Ludington
  505. Librarian
  506. Library catalog
  507. Library of Alexandria
  508. Lightning rod
  509. Lightning rod fashion
  510. Lilly Daché
  511. Lincoln-Zephyr
  512. Linda Finch
  513. List of Newspeak words
  514. Lithophane
  515. Lo Kauppi
  516. Lockheed L-10 Electra
  517. Lollardy
  518. Lone Survivor (film)
  519. Lord Baltimore penny
  520. Louis Duret
  521. Louis Timothee
  522. Louis XIII of France
  523. Louis XIV
  524. Louise Bourgeois Boursier
  525. Louisville Free Public Library
  526. Loyalty oath
  527. Ludington, Michigan
  528. Ludington Airline
  529. Ludington Public Library
  530. Ludington family
  531. Lumber
  532. Lunar basalt 70017
  533. Luther Atwood
  534. Mackinac College
  535. Mail bag
  536. Mail pouch
  537. Mail sack
  538. Mail satchel
  539. Major general (United States)
  540. Malta lunar sample displays
  541. Mammoth Cave Railroad
  542. Mammoth Caves
  543. Mamusse Wunneetupantamwe Um Biblum God
  544. Manfred von Richthofen
  545. Manistee, Michigan
  546. Manistee Watch Company
  547. Manual labor school
  548. Marc Sautet
  549. Mariah Wright House
  550. Marianne Means
  551. Mario Peruzzi
  552. Mark Twain
  553. Marsala Ship
  554. Marvin Pipkin
  555. Mary-Ann (turbine generator)
  556. Mary Augusta Dickerson
  557. Mary Babnik Brown
  558. Mary E. Clarke
  559. Mary F. Hoyt
  560. Mary Florence Potts
  561. Mary Hamilton Swindler
  562. Mary Myers
  563. Mary Shotwell Ingraham
  564. Mary Whitcher
  565. Mason County, Michigan
  566. Mason County Courthouse (Michigan)
  567. Mason County District Library
  568. Mason County Sculpture Trail
  569. Master of arts
  570. Mattheus Marinus Schepman
  571. Max Deutsch
  572. May 2015 Nepal earthquake
  573. McArthur Mining Company
  574. McLean House (Appomattox, Virginia)
  575. McLean house
  576. Mears News
  577. Meaza Ashenafi
  578. Medal for Merit
  579. Mennonite
  580. Merkel Landis
  581. Meteor III
  582. Meteor III (yacht)
  583. Metropolitan Opera House
  584. Mexico
  585. Michigan
  586. Michigan Heritage Park
  587. Michigan Limestone and Chemical Company
  588. Michigan Stove Company
  589. Michigan logging wheels
  590. Mick Jagger
  591. Middle Ages
  592. Middle East
  593. Milam Building
  594. Mildred Seydell
  595. Millennial Praises
  596. Millionaire
  597. Minstrel
  598. Missouri lunar sample displays
  599. Money back guarantee
  600. Morse code
  601. Moses Bensinger
  602. Moses H. Cone
  603. Moses H. Cone Memorial Park
  604. Motocycle
  605. Multiple choice
  606. Museum label
  607. Music House Museum
  608. Mutiny at Sucro
  609. Nabonidus
  610. Natural Bridges National Monument Solar Power System
  611. Navigational aid
  612. Nebraska House
  613. Nebraska lunar sample displays
  614. Nels Johnson
  615. Nelson Ludington
  616. Netherlands lunar sample displays
  617. New County Jail
  618. New Jersey lunar sample displays
  619. New Mexico lunar sample displays
  620. New York Central Railroad
  621. New York Central and Hudson River Railroad No. 999
  622. New York City
  623. New York lunar sample displays
  624. Newsreel
  625. Niagara Falls
  626. Nicaraguan lunar sample displays
  627. Nicholas More
  628. Nonsuch House
  629. North Carolina Transportation Museum
  630. North Carolina lunar sample displays
  631. Northwestern Lumberman
  632. Norway lunar sample displays
  633. Oceana County Historical & Genealogical Society
  634. Odo J. Struger
  635. Old Appomattox Court House
  636. Olive Hoskins
  637. Oliver B. Shallenberger
  638. Oliver Cromwell
  639. Omega Speedmaster
  640. Opera house
  641. Operation Sahayogi Haat
  642. Oregon lunar sample displays
  643. Otium
  644. Owen Ray Skelton
  645. P. G. T. Beauregard
  646. Pacifists
  647. Packard Automotive Plant
  648. Papeete
  649. Patent
  650. Patent Office 1836 fire
  651. Paul McCartney
  652. Paul Rapsey Hodge
  653. Paul Revere
  654. Peers House
  655. Pelican Pete
  656. Pembrokeshire
  657. Pencil
  658. Peniel Chapel
  659. Penny Penates
  660. Pere Marquette Lumber Company
  661. Pere Marquette Railway
  662. Persis Foster Eames Albee
  663. Philip Slier
  664. Photographer
  665. Photosensitive glass
  666. Picasso
  667. Pickle Barrel House
  668. Pierce Stocking Scenic Drive
  669. Pierre Lorillard II
  670. Piggly Wiggly
  671. Pinakes (tables)
  672. Plague doctor
  673. Plague doctor contract
  674. Planters
  675. Plasterer
  676. Player piano
  677. Plunkett-Meeks Store
  678. Plywood
  679. Pocket watch
  680. Poet laureate
  681. Police van
  682. Pony Express bible
  683. Pony Express mochila
  684. Porcelain
  685. Port Oneida Rural Historic District
  686. Portmanteau (mail)
  687. Powership
  688. Praise of the Two Lands (ship)
  689. Prefabricated building
  690. Preparation (principle)
  691. Printer (publisher)
  692. Printing press
  693. Prismatic
  694. Programmable logic controller
  695. Prohibition in the United States
  696. Project Loon
  697. Prosobranchia
  698. Prospect House (Blue Mountain Lake (New York))
  699. Prospect House (Hamilton County, New York)
  700. Prosper Philippe Augouard
  701. Purple Heart
  702. Queen Isabella of Spain
  703. Radionuclide
  704. Ralph Waldo Trine
  705. Ramsdell Theatre
  706. Rasmus Rasmussen
  707. Raymond Cazallis Davis
  708. Raymond W. Bliss
  709. Red Cross stove
  710. Refractor telescope
  711. Reinforced concrete
  712. Renaissance humanism
  713. Renoir
  714. Reuben T. Durrett
  715. Richard Henry Park
  716. Richard McNemar
  717. Robert Dunbar
  718. Robert Grace
  719. Robert Logan (naval architect)
  720. Robert Louis Stevenson
  721. Robert Wood Johnson I
  722. Rock wool
  723. Roman Senate
  724. Romania lunar sample displays
  725. Rotolactor
  726. Royal Page Davidson
  727. Russian people
  728. Ruth M. Gardiner
  729. S. Donald Stookey
  730. SS Andaste
  731. SS Badger
  732. SS Chief Wawatam
  733. SS Jacona (1918)
  734. SS John Sherman
  735. SS Pere Marquette
  736. Sabal palmetto
  737. Sachet (scented bag)
  738. Safety pin
  739. Salvador Toscano Barragán
  740. Samuel D. McDearmon
  741. Samuel Keimer
  742. Samuel Loudon
  743. Samuel Ogle
  744. Sarah Thompson, Countess Rumford
  745. Sauder Woodworking Company
  746. Scented water
  747. Schloss Warthausen
  748. Schuyler Wheeler
  749. Scipio Africanus
  750. Screw propeller
  751. Sealyham House
  752. Sealyham Terrier
  753. Sears, Roebuck & Company
  754. Self-service laundry
  755. Shaker
  756. Shaker-style pantry box
  757. Shaker Seed Company
  758. Shaker broom vise
  759. Shaker tilting chair
  760. Shakers
  761. Shelby Gem Factory
  762. Sholes and Glidden typewriter
  763. Sidney Howe Short
  764. Silas C. Overpack
  765. Silver Star
  766. Sinterklaas
  767. Society Hill, Philadelphia
  768. Sodium bicarbonate
  769. Solar cell
  770. Solar compass
  771. Solar eclipse of 1 May 1185
  772. Solar prominence
  773. Soldier's Medal
  774. Sophie von La Roche
  775. Southern Railway's Spencer Shops
  776. Soybean Car
  777. Spain lunar sample displays
  778. Spanish Empire
  779. Spark (horse)
  780. Spielmannsdichtung
  781. Spirit of St. Louis
  782. Spiritual Milk for Boston Babes
  783. Spragg Bag
  784. St. Edward's Catholic Church
  785. St. Matthew's German Evangelical Lutheran Church
  786. St. Nicholas Hotel (New York City)
  787. St Paul's Cathedral
  788. Stained glass
  789. Stanhope Medal
  790. Star Watch Case Company
  791. Statue of John Plankinton
  792. Steel building
  793. Stereo-Pak
  794. Steven Anzovin
  795. Studebaker
  796. Sumerian Farmer's Almanac
  797. Sunmobile
  798. Sweden lunar sample displays
  799. SweeTango
  800. SweeTango (apple)
  801. Sweeney-Conner Cabin
  802. Sweeney Prizery
  803. Sweet potato
  804. Swift Lathers
  805. Swift Lathers museum
  806. Sybil Ludington
  807. Syllabical and Steganographical Table
  808. Tango (dance)
  809. Telescope
  810. Ten-pin bowling
  811. Thaddeus Fairbanks
  812. The Athenian Mercury
  813. The Electro-Magnetic and Mechanics Intelligencer
  814. The Gilded Age: A Tale of Today
  815. The Ladies' Mercury
  816. The Long Short Cut
  817. The Queen's Messenger
  818. The Queen's Messenger (1928)
  819. The Quiet Achiever
  820. The Shirt of Nessus
  821. The Teenie Weenies
  822. The Three Musketeers (Studebaker engineers)
  823. The Whole Shebang: A State-of-the-Universe(s) Report
  824. Theater (building)
  825. Theodore Roosevelt McElroy
  826. Theresa Elmendorf
  827. Thirteen Colonies
  828. Thirteen colonies
  829. Thirteenth stroke of the clock
  830. Thomas Chippendale
  831. Thomas Corbett (Shaker doctor)
  832. Thomas Edison
  833. Thomas Elfe
  834. Thomas Elfe House
  835. Thomas Hall (inventor)
  836. Thomas Hall (mechanic)
  837. Thomas Jefferson
  838. Thomas Jefferson Ramsdell
  839. Thomas Johnston (engraver)
  840. Thomas Kimmwood Peters
  841. Thomas Maddock
  842. Thomas Seavey Hall
  843. Thornwell Jacobs
  844. Thoroughbred
  845. Time capsule
  846. Tiny Town (miniature park)
  847. Toilet
  848. Toilet water
  849. Tom Rees (British airman)
  850. Tower of Wooden Pallets
  851. Trade magazine
  852. Train ferry
  853. Travel literature
  854. Treadmill
  855. Treaty of Louviers
  856. Trompe l'oeil
  857. Truscon Laboratories
  858. Trussed Concrete Steel Company
  859. Tuna
  860. Typesetting
  861. Typographer (typewriter)
  862. Union (automobile)
  863. Union Army
  864. Union Automobile Company
  865. Unitarian Universalism
  866. United States
  867. United States Army Nurse Corps
  868. United States Declaration of Independence
  869. United States Military Academy
  870. United States Navy SEALs
  871. United States Post Office Department
  872. United States federal civil service
  873. Utah
  874. Utrecht
  875. Valentin Wolfenstein
  876. Valerius Maximus
  877. Van Gogh
  878. Vernon Arnold Haugland
  879. Virginia
  880. Virginia Gazette
  881. Virginia Mae Brown
  882. Virginia Resolves
  883. Vita Karoli Magni
  884. W. Stanley Proctor
  885. W. Wallace Kellett
  886. Wales
  887. Wally Schirra
  888. Walter Scott Lenox
  889. War in Afghanistan (2001–present)
  890. Warrant officer
  891. Warren Antoine Cartier
  892. Warship
  893. Washington Bee
  894. Washington County Closed-Circuit Educational Television Project
  895. Washington Monument (Milwaukee)
  896. Watch movement
  897. Wawatam Lighthouse
  898. Welcome centers in the United States
  899. Wellesley College
  900. Werkbund Exhibition (1914)
  901. West Point
  902. West Virginia lunar sample displays
  903. Western world
  904. Westinghouse Time Capsules
  905. Whaleback
  906. Whitcomb L. Judson
  907. White House
  908. White Pine Village
  909. Wilhelm II, German Emperor
  910. Wilhelm Victor Alfred Tepe
  911. William A. Starrett
  912. William Austin Burt
  913. William Beanes
  914. William Bradford (printer, born 1663)
  915. William Buchanan (locomotive designer)
  916. William Calvin Chase
  917. William Donahey
  918. William Donald Scherzer
  919. William E. Sawyer
  920. William Francis Channing
  921. William Goddard (publisher)
  922. William Hamlin
  923. William Hunter (publisher)
  924. William J. Keep
  925. William Jay Bolton
  926. William L. Mercereau
  927. William M. Brish
  928. William Maurice (antiquary)
  929. William Morrison (chemist)
  930. William Munroe (pencil maker)
  931. William Parks (publisher)
  932. William Phillips Hall
  933. William Plankinton
  934. William Plankinton Mansion
  935. William R. Farrand
  936. William Rath
  937. William V. Thompson
  938. Wistarburg Glass Works
  939. Wistarburgh Glass Works
  940. Woman's World's Fair
  941. Wood-burning stove
  942. Woodson Law Office
  943. World's Largest Stove
  944. World's longest domestic flight
  945. Yampa (yacht)
  946. ZIP Code
  947. Zachary Taylor
  948. Zipper
  949. Älgen Stolta

This is every article Doug Coldwell had listed as an "achievement" in his userspace. Mako001 (C)  (T)  🇺🇦 01:57, 21 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Ready ?

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Could you all have a look at my sandbox now to see if it is in shape to bring forward at ANI? SandyGeorgia (Talk) 18:20, 20 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I think this is good; I'm a bit concerned that there will be debate around the Cban that could distract or diminish from the other proposals and cleanup, but I'm guessing you also have that in mind. I have a question about the DYK RfC-- is that being proposed in tandem with the other proposals? I'm wondering if it might end up getting ignored or swatted down over "this is just one user" (it isn't, but you know...) or "this is doing too much". I think it's an important point but that a different and more focused avenue for it might be more effective. Moneytrees🏝️(Talk) 18:48, 20 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
You raise important issues, and I have an infamous history of launching terrible RFCs, so now's the time for others to opine whether I should trim this back or reword! Please feel free to speak plainly so I don't have to read between the lines ... nuance and subtlety out the door please :) SandyGeorgia (Talk) 18:51, 20 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I'm definitely concerned that the DYK proposal will distract from the main point. The other three are more related to each other, but anything with DYK will be more controversial and may generate heat that draws light away from the other items. Hog Farm Talk 18:54, 20 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
You may be right (although it is DYK that brings us to where we are in all these (similar) cases. I'll wait to hear from others before launch, but I think I'm otherwise ready to go. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 19:04, 20 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@SandyGeorgia: Perhaps separate the DYK bit and discuss it at the DYK talk page instead? Iazyges Consermonor Opus meum 21:38, 20 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Will do when launching ... SandyGeorgia (Talk) 21:49, 20 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Iazyges re this feedback, I'm not sure the VP is the right place for what I have in sandbox here. Pls have a look? SandyGeorgia (Talk) 19:33, 20 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@SandyGeorgia: Yes, I'm inclined to agree with you, given the form. Perhaps the regular AN might serve better though? I am not deeply affected by where the discussion ends up, as intend to show up and vote straight-ticket on all proposals, just concerned about the possibility of an "ask-your-mother" from ANI. Iazyges Consermonor Opus meum 19:38, 20 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, always a problem ... will wait for more feedback before launch. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 19:43, 20 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Considering the bludgeoning and insults already at ANI, you may be right that AN may result in a better discussion. I've got all the relevant info relinked anyway, so maybe ... why continue at ANI? But if I switch forums, will that be considered FORUMSHOPPING, or is AN actually the more appropriate place ? SandyGeorgia (Talk) 19:55, 20 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I doubt it would be FORUMSHOPPING; the first three ANIs were all actual incidents: Doug's weird behavior, weird behavior part 2, and sockpuppetry. This is not an incident, so much as a discussion that involves everyone; AN is definitely more appropriate, if not perfect. Perhaps hosting an RFC here would not be so bad, but that's about the only new alternative I can think of. Of course, I'm certain FORUMSHOPPING will be invoked; there is an unfortunate percent of regulars that view tenure as the One True God, such that everyone involved should feel sorry about the Doug situation as if it wasn't the product of his own faults and refusal to learn. Iazyges Consermonor Opus meum 20:01, 20 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
OK, leaning now towards AN, with a link from ANI and requesting the ANI be closed. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 20:06, 20 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I'm less worried about that at this point; confirmed socking tends to harden attitudes (as it should). Mackensen (talk) 21:18, 20 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@Mackensen: There was active bludgeoning at that very thread... Iazyges Consermonor Opus meum 21:37, 20 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Yep ... from the same editor who bludgeoned my last ANI participation. Unless people think it won't get a broad enough audience, I'm thinking AN instead. And some of those who added toxic posts to my last ANI may be less inclined to do same at AN. So please speak up vociferously if you disagree with AN over ANI. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 21:53, 20 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Legitimately the only time I have seen socking bite someone in an ANI convo was when they directly said "I will sock if I am blocked", now that I think about it. Iazyges Consermonor Opus meum 21:55, 20 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Looks good. Given the ban, sockpuppetry, and offline sources WP:PDEL is the only practical way to deal with this.

There were a few GAs amongst the ItsLassieTime CCI. They were dealt with presumptively, blanked and listed at Wikipedia:Copyright problems and Wikipedia:Good article reassessment under the individual review procedure. I'd wait until Wikipedia:Good Article proposal drive 2023#Proposal 14: Merge individual and community good article reassessment is enacted. Ping @Wizardman: who may want to comment on this. MER-C 16:19, 22 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]