User talk:Thomas Paine1776

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Appreciate the Barnstar!Thomas Paine1776 (talk) 22:04, 22 February 2008 (UTC)


You have been not signed up as an active member of WP:CHICAGO, but you have made at least 25 edits to Chicago. If you consider yourself either an active or semi-active member of the project please sign up as such at Wikipedia:WikiProject Chicago/members. Also, if you are a member, be aware of Wikipedia:Meetup/Chicago 3 and be advised that the project is now trying to keep all the project's WP:PR, WP:FAC, WP:FAR, WP:GAR, WP:GAC WP:FLC, WP:FLRC, WP:FTC, WP:FPOC, WP:FPC, and WP:AFD discussion pages in one location at the new Wikipedia:WikiProject Chicago/Review page. Please help add any discussion you are aware of at this location.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTM) 18:15, 10 August 2008 (UTC)

Atlanta, Georgia[edit]

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For a great deal of helpful cleanups and edits to geography articles including Atlanta, Georgia among others. Todd Vierling (talk) 19:46, 28 August 2008 (UTC)

Thanks a bunch!!!Thomas Paine1776 (talk) 21:29, 28 August 2008 (UTC)

Detroit sources[edit]

Thank you for sourcing the article :) WhisperToMe (talk) 16:18, 22 April 2009 (UTC)

ThomasPaine1776 is awarded this barnstar for fully sourcing the Detroit article - WhisperToMe (talk) 16:19, 22 April 2009 (UTC)
Thanks for the barnstar!Thomas Paine1776 (talk) 20:57, 22 April 2009 (UTC)

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First edit of 2011[edit]

Random comment: I am a member of the central time zone, where 2011 has just begun about an hour ago. I was curious, so I looked at Wikipedia's recent changes to see the first edit of the year, and it turns out this edit by you is the first one! It appears from your editing interests that you are also a member of the central time zone, so congratulations on bringing the award home. Happy new year! Hope it's a great one!--Dudemanfellabra (talk) 07:06, 1 January 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for the note, nice homepage. That was eastern time though. Happy New Year. Thomas Paine1776 (talk) 20:25, 1 January 2011 (UTC)

Photograph requests[edit]

Hi! Are you willing to take photographs of Metro Detroit for Wikipedia? There are some photo requests if you are interested WhisperToMe (talk) 05:56, 19 September 2014 (UTC)

July 2015[edit]

Information icon Hello, I'm Godsy. I noticed that you recently removed some content from Crystal Cathedral without explaining why. In the future, it would be helpful to others if you described your changes to Wikipedia with an accurate edit summary. If you think I made a mistake, or if you have any questions, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Thanks. Godsy(TALKCONT) 20:42, 22 July 2015 (UTC)

Actually, I reverted all your changes. It is the consensus of editors that the article should remain in its current neutral state until the renovations are done and the new cathedral is consecrated. At that time, the type of changes you made will be appropriate, but until then, we'll follow WP:CRYSTAL (ironically) and not write as if a future even has already occurred. BMK (talk) 22:55, 22 July 2015 (UTC)

Donald Trump edits[edit]

Hi there. I took a look at your recent edits to Donald Trump, where you removed some material about Trump's comments on Mexicans being rapists, etc - you then followed up that unexplained removal with an added reference in another part of the page, which you immediately deleted. While you may have made these edits in good faith, such behavior could be interpreted as an attempt to bury a contentious edit; please be careful about that.

I've also noticed that whenever someone tries to engage you on this talk page about your editing, including your previous unexplained removal of sourced material on the Trump page, you remove that conversation from this page without addressing it. That's also not helpful, and, in any case, those edits and your subsequent removals can be easily viewed in this page's edit history. I'm hoping you will engage in a dialogue about these issues, rather than just deleting, as you've been doing. Thanks. Rockypedia (talk) 20:17, 27 July 2015 (UTC)

The segment has a biased incomplete version of the quote and its already been addressed by other editors as a pov fork.Thomas Paine1776 (talk) 20:20, 27 July 2015 (UTC)

I assume you're referring to the famous "Mexicans are rapists" quote that led to the Miss USA pageant being dropped by NBC. That may be your opinion, but I see no evidence that other editors have called it a pov fork; in any case, the quote is directly related to the pageants' being dropped, according to numerous secondary sources. I can add a few more citations if you like. Rockypedia (talk) 20:24, 27 July 2015 (UTC)
Your inclusion leaves out part of the quote saying 'some are good people', an obvious POV violation on your part.Thomas Paine1776 (talk)
Do you think that "some are good people" was part of the reason NBC cut business ties with Trump? If so, then you're right. However, that's not the case, so your point is ridiculous. I don't see the harm in including that sentence, though, so I left it. Accusing me of bias, however, when all you've been doing for weeks is promoting pro-Trump POV on wikipedia, is hilarious. Rockypedia (talk) 20:59, 27 July 2015 (UTC)
The source includes the 'some are good people' part of the quote, it would be out of context without it.Thomas Paine1776 (talk) 21:04, 27 July 2015 (UTC)
That's great. Does that explain why you repeatedly tried to remove the entire quote? Still waiting for an edit summary on that one. Rockypedia (talk) 21:11, 27 July 2015 (UTC)
Its already in the campaign article and was placed there by other editors as a WP:POV fork. Thomas Paine1776 (talk) 21:15, 27 July 2015 (UTC)
In light of recent events, it appears this entire conversation is moot.Rockypedia (talk) 22:06, 27 July 2015 (UTC)
You're right, Rockypedia. Topic bans apply to all Wikipedia pages, including this one, so please nobody talk to Thomas Paine about the Donald Trump article or related pages going forward. Bishonen | talk 22:20, 27 July 2015 (UTC).
Please let's continue this conversation at the talk page of the article. Removals of text from an article, unless the reason for doing so is very obvious, should be accompanied by an explanation in the edit summary. If done without an explanation, people of course are going to revert those edits, as they don't know why they were done. --Distelfinck (talk) 20:27, 27 July 2015 (UTC)
Agree wholeheartedly on this point. Someone should also point out to ThomasPaine1776 that deleting attempts at communication on his own talk page, especially when those attempts are dealing with his unexplained edits, can also be taken the wrong way. Rockypedia (talk) 21:01, 27 July 2015 (UTC)

Notice that you are now subject to an arbitration enforcement sanction[edit]

Commons-emblem-hand.svg The following sanction now applies to you:

You have been topic banned from editing pages related to Donald Trump, broadly construed, for twelve months. Please see WP:TBAN for how topic bans work.

You have been sanctioned for continuing to remove sourced material related to Donald Trump, as here:[1][2][3]. Please see my warning here. As I mentioned in my warning, systematic removal of content of a particular nature (in this case, negative or critical material) is especially disruptive.

This sanction is imposed in my capacity as an uninvolved administrator under the authority of the Arbitration Committee's decision at Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Editing of Biographies of Living Persons#Final decision and, if applicable, the procedure described at Wikipedia:Arbitration Committee/Discretionary sanctions. This sanction has been recorded in the log of sanctions. If the sanction includes a ban, please read the banning policy to ensure you understand what this means. If you do not comply with this sanction, you may be blocked for an extended period, by way of enforcement of this sanction—and you may also be made subject to further sanctions.

You may appeal this sanction using the process described here. I recommend that you use the arbitration enforcement appeals template if you wish to submit an appeal to the arbitration enforcement noticeboard. You may also appeal directly to me (on my talk page), before or instead of appealing to the noticeboard. Even if you appeal this sanction, you remain bound by it until you are notified by an uninvolved administrator that the appeal has been successful. You are also free to contact me on my talk page if anything of the above is unclear to you. Bishonen | talk 21:16, 27 July 2015 (UTC)

Bishonen | talk 21:16, 27 July 2015 (UTC).

Discretionary sanctions alert[edit]

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Please carefully read this information:

The Arbitration Committee has authorised discretionary sanctions to be used for pages regarding all edits about, and all pages related to post-1932 politics of the United States and closely related people, a topic which you have edited. The Committee's decision is here.

Discretionary sanctions is a system of conduct regulation designed to minimize disruption to controversial topics. This means uninvolved administrators can impose sanctions for edits relating to the topic that do not adhere to the purpose of Wikipedia, our standards of behavior, or relevant policies. Administrators may impose sanctions such as editing restrictions, bans, or blocks. This message is to notify you sanctions are authorised for the topic you are editing. Before continuing to edit this topic, please familiarise yourself with the discretionary sanctions system. Don't hesitate to contact me or another editor if you have any questions.

Bishonen | talk 21:25, 27 July 2015 (UTC).

I've asked about the length of your ban on AN[edit]

Hi, Thomas Paine. I have some doubts about the length of your topic ban, and have asked for advice on AN, here. You're free to comment in the discussion if you like, but I advise you to stay on topic (=the length of the ban). It'll make a better impression if you do, though regardless of what you say in that thread, I do not intend to block you over it as a ban violation. Bishonen | talk 14:39, 28 July 2015 (UTC).