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Comair photo

I do accept requests, but I am several hours away from Cincy. Sorry. youngamerican (wtf?) 15:40, 28 September 2009 (UTC)


I'm sorry, but i dont live near Amsterveen. I live up in the north of the Netherlands, in Buitenpost. And im afraid i dont do photography. Omegastar (talk) 20:21, 28 September 2009 (UTC)

Re:Photo request

Sorry, but I moved from Puerto Rico sometime ago. Your best bet for the photo request of the LMM International Airport would be by placing it here: Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Puerto Rico. Take care. Tony the Marine (talk) 03:05, 29 September 2009 (UTC)

What is Executive Airlines? Never heard of them. Pr4ever (talk) 02:38, 30 September 2009 (UTC)

Your photo request

Hi, you have put a photo request for a Basel location on my talk page. I am sorry, I can't help you because Basel is 2 hours away from my place, so I would need to invest a free day to go there for the photos. I could do it on a commercial basis but I think that's not what you're looking for. Noebu (talk) 17:59, 29 September 2009 (UTC)


Thank you for the K&K Take Miami move. --HELLØ ŦHERE 22:36, 29 September 2009 (UTC)

L (Death Note)

  • 07:16, 18 May 2008 WhisperToMe protected L (Death Note) ‎ (Let's see the vandalism decrease. [edit=autoconfirmed:move=autoconfirmed])

I'd like to review this to see if semiprotection is still considered necessary. This is part of my systematic examination of all longstanding indefinite semiprotections. Please see the discussion on talk:L (Death Note). --TS 14:07, 30 September 2009 (UTC)

See also a similar discussion on talk:Light Yagami, which you semiprotected at about the same time. --TS 16:44, 30 September 2009 (UTC)
  • That fellow user:TheFarix took over a lot of articles and doesn't let others do some editing. He should be stopped. How can we do it? —Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 00:48, 2 October 2009 (UTC)
Sorry about that, WhisperToMe, but this IP has been harassing me off and on for months. The last time I brought it up to WP:ANI, nothing was really resolved do to how the editor harasses me. (Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/IncidentArchive565#Problem with IP editor repeatedly hounding me for months) —Farix (t | c) 00:59, 2 October 2009 (UTC)


Hey, um. How do you read File:Melor 2009 track.png? Like left to right? or depends on colors? Thanks Alfred Lau (talk) 07:12, 2 October 2009 (UTC)

RfD discussion on Sota Higurashi

In researching the Wikipedia history of Sota Higurashi for the current RfD discussion regarding Sota Higurashi, I noticed that you have previously commented on his notability. It would be very helpful to get have your thoughts added to the RfD discussion, which currently appears to be heading toward delete. Many thanks. —Zach425 talk/contribs 08:02, 2 October 2009 (UTC)

Air Berlin

Hi, you have put a photo request for Air Berlin.

Sven Wolter

Thanks for the heads-up on

Thanks for your pointer on my talk page. cojoco (talk) 03:48, 5 October 2009 (UTC)

South African municipalities vs. place names

As far as naming places go, things work a bit differently in South Africa than you may be familiar with in the US. The municipalities are (usually) only significant for legal and administrative purposes, and aren't used for ordinary geographical reference. For saying where something is, the fact that the municipality passes laws is not so important. This is because a single municipality often includes multiple towns/villages/suburbs. Statistics South Africa defines "Main Places" and "Subplaces", which are somewhat official and would probably be the appropriate names to use.

That being said, I have no issue with having both the place name and the municipality listed, as you have done in the airline articles. - htonl (talk) 03:09, 6 October 2009 (UTC)

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Penn Wood High School

Hi, when you feel moved to delete lists of notable alumni, it would be helpful if you would copy them to the article talk page. This keeps them available to other editors, to allow them to find sources. Thanks. TerriersFan (talk) 17:33, 6 October 2009 (UTC)

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RfD nomination of Takeshi Miyajima

I have nominated Takeshi Miyajima (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) for discussion. Your opinions on the matter are welcome; please participate in the discussion by adding your comments at the discussion page. Thank you. Donnie Park (talk) 22:58, 6 October 2009 (UTC)


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This barnstar is for your tireless efforts in reverting vandalism on wikipedia great work. Thanks! South Bay (talk) 02:42, 7 October 2009 (UTC)

Moving images to commons

OK, thank you! Postoak (talk) 23:59, 7 October 2009 (UTC)


look at his response to the last reader's comment on that page.

"in case he keeps forgetting, he's a gaijin---"

that backs up my entry. —Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 04:59, 9 October 2009 (UTC)

Air France HQ

Here they are ! I am not proud of them, because the weather was cloudy. And it is hard to approach buildings to take a nice photos, because many pedestrians paths are closed for security purposes. And there are also highways forbidden to pedestrians. I hope that the photos will please you. There are thousands of rabbits on the CDG airport. You see them from the plane before taking-off ! In open fields, rabbits are hunted, but of course not on an airport. I use the same licences that in File:Square Max Hymans (Paris).jpg. Please update them if they are not OK.


--Tangopaso (talk) 19:48, 12 October 2009 (UTC)

I have changed the above gallery to image links (see Wikipedia_talk:Non-free content#Hundreds of WP:NFCC#9 violations). Due to France's bizarre lack of freedom of panorama, the images are are only considered to be in compliance with WP:FUC when appearing in article space with justification. --Dynaflow babble 03:09, 18 November 2009 (UTC)

Notability in cities

I noticed your contribution to discussion Gary, Indiana, and then read the BLP discussion [1]. It "hardened" my position of general tolerance to one of feeling that many "Notable" sections don't belong in Wiki. (And I'm considering deleting them, as encountered.)

Subjectively, first, I'm uneasy that the Notability sections are being used for promotion of individuals or cities. Objectively -- since I do a fair amount of anti-vandalism -- I'm concerned that the sections are targets for unverifiable information.

But what really seems a problem is that there is an unstated, implicit assumption that something about a city is relevant to a person's notability. Let's assume -- for the sake of discussion -- that I am notable. I was born in a famous city. However, I was raised in another city; it is unusual for a different reason, and it greatly affected me (and my hypothetical notability). However, I left that city and moved to still another city. It is that city where I have had my (hypothetically notable) career. Which city do I think influenced me most strongly? The second. Which city influenced me next-to-most strongly? None of them, it's another city I lived in for a few months. If I was very notable, wouldn't all (four) cities like to "claim me as their own"? Including cities that I wouldn't care to identify myself with?

So, quite apart from promotion and vandalism issues, there doesn't seem to be a compelling argument that a notable who has lived in a city is notably associated with it. Thoughts? Should notable people who aren't worked into article text be included at all? Regards, Piano non troppo (talk) 04:28, 14 October 2009 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of List of YuYu Hakusho characters

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Washington DC Project

"In determining consensus, consider the quality of the arguments..."

Consider, not "a quality argument automatically means consensus" (that is how you proceeded).

It does not say to go ahead and make the change before people have come to a consensus. And, no, just because you didn't get a response for 1 1/2 days (I've waited 1 1/2 months before) that doesn't mean that you were granted consensus. --Tim Sabin (talk) 08:52, 15 October 2009 (UTC)

You said on my page: "You said: 'I've waited 1 1/2 months before' - was this a result of an ongoing discussion? If so, this is different and distinct from a lack of activity." This was from a lack of activity. I wanted to give everyone a chance to have their say before I declared a consensus. --Tim Sabin (talk) 14:19, 15 October 2009 (UTC)

E. C. Glass High School "notables"

I just put the "notables" back into the E.C.Glass High article, WhisperToMe. All of them are blue-linked, thus not really requiring additional refs in my opinion. Tim Ross (talk) 20:35, 16 October 2009 (UTC)

Thank you

Thank you for the barnstar. Consider the recent promotion of Galveston to GA as an extension of your fine efforts to improve the article about this time last year. Thanks again, Postoak (talk) 01:07, 18 October 2009 (UTC)

I'm not making unsourced changes

Listen people, I live in Palma de Majorca and watch the news everyday, I'm not stupid. If I make changes it's because they are true. Spanair has fired a lot of workers and some have gone to Barcelona. (talk) 08:25, 18 October 2009 (UTC)

Ok if you say so

I believe that Spanair's headquarters are in Barcelona. They have said it a million times in the news. There IS an office at the airport that says Spanair and that "according to the news" it WAS the headquarters. I don't want to mess up anything, I just thought it ought to be changed. If I made any trouble, I apologize. P.S: I have relatives that work for Spanair. (talk) 14:04, 18 October 2009 (UTC)

File:TheGuardianByBobPackSugarLandTX.JPG listed for deletion

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Total SA HQ in Paris

File:Arche raid défense.jpg Here is an image already on Commons of the skyscraper of the Total SA in Paris la Defense. I put this image on the page en:Tour Total

I saw building this skyscaper 20 years ago, because I worked at la Defense at that time. But now, I work near Opera (nice place...).

I dont understand anything to the problem of copyrights of modern buildings. Is this image free of rights ? On french wiki, there is an interesting image of the tower in the page fr:Tour Total (Coupole). I understood that rules are harder on french wiki than on us one...

--Tangopaso (talk) 17:47, 19 October 2009 (UTC)

  • Modified image link so the rules on non-free content are followed. WhisperToMe (talk) 14:11, 24 November 2009 (UTC)

Re: Galveston, Texas is a GA

I'll give you one too:

To User:Mcorazao for your work on Galveston, Texas to get it to GA standards

Cheers! WhisperToMe (talk) 23:58, 19 October 2009 (UTC)

--Mcorazao (talk) 02:03, 20 October 2009 (UTC)

Re: Photo Requests

I'll see what I can do. I'm not sure how close I can get without requiring special access. Oldiesmann (talk) 06:04, 21 October 2009 (UTC)


Hello, I was curious if you want to accompany me to sizzler tonight at 7pm, and then possibly go dancing afterwards. (talk) 00:51, 22 October 2009 (UTC)


Hi, im sorry for the trouble, i got your note... IMO it is best to give the most neutral factual point of view, if you insist on a review in the article then it should highlight the pros and cons in a manner that allows the reader to make up their own mind, otherwise why not include EVERY review of the book on the page? If the domokun comic has its own wikipedia page I can see the benefit to reviews, but it seems unnecessary in a Domokun topic about Domokun. I see you do a lot of good work here, and it is much appreciated even if we may not end up agreeing on this. —Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 08:43, 25 October 2009 (UTC) (talk) 08:43, 25 October 2009 (UTC)

FYI: Greater Houston

FYI: I was getting tired of how much space Template:Houston-Sugar Land-Baytown MSA so I took a stab at a revised version on the talk page of the template. Basically I converted it to a Navbox in the style of Template:Chicagoland and Template:SF Bay Area. Since I saw you were one of the previous contributors to the template I'm dropping a note ...

--Mcorazao (talk) 19:40, 22 October 2009 (UTC)

Quincy TACV Cabo

It is probably time to add an economy section to the article, but [2] drew undue attention to this minor presence. Better to gain details and sources on Blue Cross Blue Shield, State Street Corporation and Stop & Shop (headquarters), much larger operations, first. Sswonk (talk) 15:06, 23 October 2009 (UTC)

Posting this here rather than my talk so you will see it immediately: Good source to help you with your new section! Thanks – Sswonk (talk) 15:36, 23 October 2009 (UTC)

DC Project

Good question. I would say not to change it right now, but perhaps to start a new thread on the project talk page regarding how to change the scope of the project. So, would it include the entire Washington SMSA and all accompanying articles, or would there be any sort of limitations within that, etc. Then, after maybe another month, go with however the consensus is at that time. John Carter (talk) 15:19, 23 October 2009 (UTC)

Notable citizens of Ostend

You removed this section from the article Ostend as not referenced. I put it back, as I am a resident of this town and I know these people are certainly notable. Most have already an article in the en.wikipedia. A few have their article in the nl.wikipedia (amongst which there are two featured articles). I think this proves that these people are notable enough. I hope you will understand this. I've kept your addition of Jetair under the header "Economy"JoJan (talk) 15:45, 23 October 2009 (UTC)

I've added a photo of the headquarters in the article Jetairfly. JoJan (talk) 16:17, 26 October 2009 (UTC)

Clear Lake City, JSC, and Ellington Field

Hi WhisperToMe,

A user (Mcorazao) editing the Galveston Bay Area article thinks that Ellington Field is located in the city of Pasadena, which it is not. Other Houston area editors are having a discussion trying to explain that it is actually in the city limits of Houston.

This user is also editing the article and making references to Clear Lake City as if it is a city/municipality/jurisdiction of its own. In addition, the user do not acknowledge that any part of southeast Houston is within the so-called Bay Area.

The user is also unwilling to acknowledge that JSC is located in Houston, which it is.

You can find this discussion at Talk:Galveston_Bay_Area#Cities_in_infobox.

Thanks and I look forward to you weighing in regarding this issue. —RJN (talk) 00:39, 24 October 2009 (UTC)

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Total S.A. HQ

thumb Hi,
I went to my dentist today. And I took a nice image of the Tour Total. With sunshine. As far as I see many images of the skyscrapers of la Defense on Commons, I uploaded it also onto Commons. I took also an image of the Tour Areva (are you interested ?), but sunshine exposure was not fine and I have to see my dentist again. I will try to take a better one.
Are you interested by HQ of french banks in Paris ? I uploaded onto commons pictures of BNP-Paribas and LCL.--Tangopaso (talk) 20:33, 27 October 2009 (UTC)

  • Thank you for the photo! BTW, I had to change the image link to comply with the rules for non-free content. WhisperToMe (talk) 14:13, 24 November 2009 (UTC)


Sure, I will do it tomorrow (if its not raining). FYI, GISD will probably be selling their current Admin building soon, and moving into the former Alamo Elementary School. --Nsaum75 (talk) 02:03, 29 October 2009 (UTC)

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GISD Lovenberg Admin Bldg, Galveston.jpg

I'll try to get a better photo of Lovenberg before I go back to Mexico on Monday. Hopefully the sun comes out between now and then. --Nsaum75 (talk) 02:31, 30 October 2009 (UTC)

Anytime ya need some, just ask. I almost always have my camera with me. --Nsaum75 (talk) 02:55, 30 October 2009 (UTC)
I come back to Galveston every two weeks or so -- so its not be a problem. I will probably get a photo of the new City Hall & Police Dept. in Dickinson too. --Nsaum75 (talk) 07:11, 31 October 2009 (UTC)
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I'll try to get the others uploaded later tonight, once i manage to get a better internet signal (damn 3rd world country internet! lol). --nsaum75 ¡שיחת! 04:02, 4 November 2009 (UTC)

November 2009

{{subst:uw-editsummary|Luxair Flight 9642}} Is this okay or should I have used the template as usual? -- allennames 04:53, 2 November 2009 (UTC)

I thought I would try this to see if it would be preferable to the boilerplate that you would have gotten. I am getting tired of seeing edits without summaries. -- allennames 05:00, 2 November 2009 (UTC)
At my talk page. -- allennames 05:06, 2 November 2009 (UTC)
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FYI: Clear Lake (region)

FYI: I noticed that you were the one who originally created Clear Lake (region). I went ahead and expanded it into a more complete article. Feel free to hack at it as you like. --Mcorazao (talk) 22:16, 3 November 2009 (UTC)

BTW, one thing that you may or may not like: In describing which communities are part of the area I took a direct quote from the CLA Chamber of Commerce web site. Since there have been acrimonious debates on other articles as to what the right way to describe the communities around that area I figured a direct quote from the area's own chamber was something nobody could find POV. --Mcorazao (talk) 23:10, 3 November 2009 (UTC)

Combined Justice Center

Joe Max Taylor Law Enforcement Center Galveston Texas.jpg

Combined Galveston County Sheriff's Department Headquarters & Galveston Police Department main station. Constructed as part of the Galveston County Justice Center, the idea was to reduce costs for both the city and county by sharing certain aspects of services (jail, processing, dispatch etc). --nsaum75 ¡שיחת! 03:29, 5 November 2009 (UTC)

I have a photo of The Galveston County Daily News building somewhere on my external HD...I'll look for it. The Island Transit headquarters is basically the police impound lot & storage garage, surrounded by a cyclone fence & barbed wire and razor wire... A better photo might be of one of the bus stations... or hmmm.. I'll have to see what kind of vantage point I can get when I go out there.. I almost took a photo of Central Middle School this past weekend...kicking myself for not doing it
Stephen F. Austin Middle School [3] (now Magnet school) (c. 1939).. I have one on a HD, that I'll dig up. --nsaum75 ¡שיחת! 05:30, 5 November 2009 (UTC)

Daily News

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Project Los Angeles

I'm no longer living in the Los Angeles area, although I lived there most of my life and still love the area. Does not living there disqualify me from the project? --Manway (talk) 16:50, 5 November 2009 (UTC)

Sign me up then! Thanks for considering me for this! --Manway (talk) 20:56, 5 November 2009 (UTC)

Non-disruptive sockpuppet?

Is there such a thing?

Here's the situation: User talk:Azzyjames (first name) and User:Azzyjames/Azzy James are the same person. He has been trying to create articles about himself and has taken to putting his bio on talk pages to avoid being deleted.

Not sure exactly how to report this one. Thanks for any help.

--Manway (talk) 21:19, 5 November 2009 (UTC)

Skyscrapers in la Défense

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For tour Pascal, you have already an image on Commons. I think that it is a general view and that there is no problem of "No FOP in France". I went there and took a picture of the building, but it is not fine because it is impossible to take picture at good distance from the building. I will not take a better image than the one on Commons.

I have an image of tour Areva (formerly tour Fiat). But I have to mind if I am allowed to import it on Commons (general view) or only on en Wiki.

You have on commons images of HQ of the french banks BNP-Paribas and LCL (formerly Credit Lyonnais). They are old buildings. So no pb of "no FOP"

Do you need other images in La Defense. Unhappily, I have to visit my dentist there, and I can take some pictures for you.--Tangopaso (talk) 08:55, 7 November 2009 (UTC)

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Re: Template

I left a message on the talk page.VR talk 17:11, 9 November 2009 (UTC)


whisper sweet nothings in my ear ;) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Hysteria19 (talkcontribs) 20:51, 9 November 2009 (UTC)


Several things: Firstly, I can't seem to upload to the commons at the moment; my connection times out. So I posted them to and will have a bot move them to the commons later.

Central High School (1894) Galveston Texas.jpg

The first photo is of the original 1894 Central High School for African Americans. It was heavily damaged in the 1900 Hurricane and although repaired, does not look much like the original gothic structure. In 1905 a "Colored" branch of the Rosenberg Library was constructed, as an addition, to the west end of the building. I've left the sourcing for this temporarily on the photograph's talk-page. Today the building is used as a community center.

Central Middle School, formerly Central High School for Colored People

Also, Central Middle School. I will be in town until Friday, if you can think of other places that need photographing. I'm going to try to take photos of Galveston Catholic School, Sacred Heart Catholic School (which will be torn down shortly), and Alamo Middle School. --nsaum75 ¡שיחת! 04:17, 11 November 2009 (UTC)

You're quick, I no sooner hit save than I noticed your reply on my page ;). Hopefully I can get Sacred Heart School etc. posted before I go back to Oaxaca. My internet there has been p-a-i-n-f-u-l-l-y slow the past few weeks for some reason... --nsaum75 ¡שיחת!

More on la Defense

File:Tour-Total.jpg File:La_mairie_de_Puteaux_le_matin.jpg I uploaded on EN wiki and FR wiki Tour-Total.jpg. With a - because the file Tour Total.jpg already existed on FR wiki.

I uploaded on EN wiki La_mairie_de_Puteaux_le_matin.jpg from FR. I guaranty that it is the town hall of Puteaux. The image is fine, I will not do better. I used it in the article about Puteaux.

I am OK to look for images of the town hall of Courbevoie and of the l'Oreal HQ. But I will probably have to wait until spring, because now days are short. It is night when I go to work or when I go back home.

To say the truth, I am not very motivated to look for images of the schools...--Tangopaso (talk) 16:39, 11 November 2009 (UTC)

Bishop's Palace, Galveston

The black & white photo is very very nice -- and historical -- but the photos of it in the "gallery" could use some updating. I'm indecisive which one to use, so I thought I'd ask around. I like the colors and clearness of the masonary details in the one on the right, but one on the left is a better perspective I think.

Thanks in advance for your opinion --nsaum75 ¡שיחת! 03:52, 12 November 2009 (UTC)

Sacred Heart School.jpg
Thanks. Here's the Sacred Heart Elementary school (archgh) which will be torn down soon. Sourcing for its demolition is on the talk page. --nsaum75 ¡שיחת! 04:46, 12 November 2009 (UTC)

go! Mokulele

I noticed that you recently moved Mokulele Airlines to go! Mokulele. A proposal to revert this move and create a new article for the go! Mokulele joint venture is being discussed at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Airlines#go.21 Mokulele. -- Hawaiian717 (talk) 16:39, 12 November 2009 (UTC)

Xie Caiping

I redirected the page you created (Xie Caiping) per WP:BLP1E. ɳOCTURNEɳOIR talk // contribs 01:09, 13 November 2009 (UTC)

Hiroki Sugimura redirect / undone

On RC patrol ... I see you redirected, but (FYI) you have been reverted. Wasn't sure if you wanted this redirect enforced (didn't have an edit summary rationale to repeat), so I left it alone. No need to reply, just handle as you wish. If you provide edit summary or rationale, I will enforce with that. (NOTE: Just being careful in RC patrol not to revert changes as vandalism. You know the drill, I'm sure.) Cheers. Proofreader77 (talk) 01:10, 13 November 2009 (UTC)


I added two photos to Commons: Chicago Public Schools HQ 1.jpg and Chicago Public Schools HQ 2.jpg. Unfortunately, it was very bright today and there was a shadow across the building. When I tried to get detail in the top half of the building, the bottom is too dark. When I tried to get detail in the bottom portion, the top is over-exposed. Let me know if either works for your purpose. If not, perhaps it will look better on an overcast day. -- DS1953 talk 06:18, 13 November 2009 (UTC)


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My photo request

Hi there! I don't really do photo requests, but today I have have one exception. In this heavy Dublin rain, at this hour I am obviously not going to go a-snapping. Unfortunately, I don't have either of the two photos you first mentioned, but I found this on Flickr and uploaded it for you. Thanks, and by the way, did you find me here?  Cargoking  talk  18:59, 13 November 2009 (UTC)

You're welcome. I only guessed since I started the cat.  Cargoking  talk  20:14, 13 November 2009 (UTC)

La Marque Independent School District

FYI: I added some photos I took in 2007, of the original La Marque school, to the LMISD article. --nsaum75 ¡שיחת! 10:20, 16 November 2009 (UTC)

AfD nomination of List of schools in Harris County, Texas

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Articles for deletion nomination of Lee's Sandwiches

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Ranma ½ image

I am unable to finish the template I left at File talk:Ranmavolume1.jpg. I lack information about the source and I am uncertain what purpose the image should be used for. Hopefully you can finish what I cannot. -- allennames 07:25, 21 November 2009 (UTC)

Your welcome. -- allennames 17:54, 21 November 2009 (UTC)

KLM Headquarters

Hi WhisperToMe, a another user of the dutch wikipedia has made a picture of the head office of KLM. It's now on commons: [4]. - Steppler 17:28, 23 November 2009 (UTC)

File:Square Max Hymans (Paris).jpg

Please indicate with reference to each of the Non free Content Criteria, how use of this image is justified.

Detagging in any event.

Sfan00 IMG (talk) 14:04, 24 November 2009 (UTC)

Hi, it's me Tangopaso. There is a guy who says me that the image File:Square Max Hymans (Paris).jpg has copyright problems and he plans to remove it.
I tried to do what he asked (reduce image, add template...), but it is not enough, and I dont understand why the images of Air France HQ are OK and this one not. Here is his last message in my talk page :
One, that is not small enough. Two, this image is non-free, stop tagging it as Creative Commons. It isn't both. Three, that is not how the non-free use rationale template should be used. Four, you still haven't explained why what this building looks like is so important to those articles. I have retagged and removed the CC template... J Milburn (talk) 21:22, 24 November 2009 (UTC)
Can you fix the image, unless it will be destroyed. I yet plan to take image of Coubevoie townhall (probably an old building) and L'Oreal HQ (sure a recent one). But if there are so many copyright problems, I will take pictures only of old buildings.--Tangopaso (talk) 21:55, 24 November 2009 (UTC)

Look, I'm sorry, but you're wrong here with regards to how Wikipedia operates. An image cannot be both free and non-free- yes, the image itself is free, but it is of a non-free building, and so must be treated as non-free. Tagging an image as both free and non-free is pointless. As for the claim that "images of corporate headquarters (and former corporate headquarters) are important for articles about companies"; sorry, but you don't get a "free" non-free image to show the company headquarters. Unless the appearance of the building is of particular significance (and, in this case, I really don't think it is) then we can't use a non-free image. J Milburn (talk) 11:21, 25 November 2009 (UTC)

Just state it in the image description- for our purposes, the image is non-free, and so should be tagged as such. It cannot be both free and non-free, as they are mutually exclusive. Equally, we do not tag when an image is free for non-commercial use, we only tag it as non-free. As for the issue of the category- if the category is for non-free images, it should be tagged with __NOGALLERY__, so that none of the images show up. If this is a gallery for free images, this one should not feature. J Milburn (talk) 19:00, 25 November 2009 (UTC)
We seem to be mostly agreed, but I'm afraid I really don't follow what you are saying here- "However, we also have to acknowledge the free license from the photographer. For instance we cannot upload images where the photographer has a non-free license for his image. Becuase it is possible to get a "free-er" image where only the architect has a non-free license, we cannot accept non-free images of French buildings where the photographer has a non-free license." We do have to acknowledge the photographer and the copyright, but that does not mean that we need to tag it as free. As has been repeated by both of us, this, for our purposes, is non-free, so tagging it as free is a waste of time. There is no middle ground. An image is free or non-free, as far as we are concerned. It cannot be both. J Milburn (talk) 20:17, 25 November 2009 (UTC)
Yes, I am inclined to agree with that. What's your point? J Milburn (talk) 20:36, 25 November 2009 (UTC)
Which is what I have been saying from the beginning. I'm glad that issue is resolved... J Milburn (talk) 20:49, 25 November 2009 (UTC)

Regarding Category:Air France-KLM, please don't add images to article categories, especially not non-free images. If images need to be categorised, they should be categorised within their own categories. J Milburn (talk) 21:19, 25 November 2009 (UTC)

I've never really seen the point in them, but if you feel it is useful... J Milburn (talk) 00:18, 26 November 2009 (UTC)

Look, you're an admin, you know the drill. If you're going to fight for these images to be usable, please add something resembling a rationale to them... J Milburn (talk) 00:39, 26 November 2009 (UTC)


          • BEST OF BOTH WORLDS**** THE GAME 4 LIFE- IN front of the ROCKETS and SPURS as the ROCK at COMPAC CENTER.


Hip hop began in the 70's with rappers delight. Outside of a few hits from our parent’s generation like signified monkey. The Hip hop generation had a tendency to take old sound tracks and create new ones and add their own words.  Sometimes the words were ad lib; sometimes they were verbal portraits of the citations and circumstances of the day to day life from the environment in witch the artist/writers were living. Sometimes poetry was marinated in a musical beat from our parent’s generation and produced millions of dollars for minorities. Later minorities grew to the level of getting a bigger piece of the pizza or pie and began going thru the process of developing their own manufacturing companies/record labels. The manufacturing bar code on the back of CD's are similar to the manufacture bar code on products that were manufactured on our entire store shelves. These people who own these companies with these labels and products on store shelves generally take in millions of dollars. This means we have arrived. Kids are producing these same companies in their family homes by molding their parent’s generation. They are studying dictionaries at a rate probably never seen before. Doing away with illiteracy at a rapid pace. In the seventies there were allot of people who played it off as though they could read and really could not. We are growing. 
When people make allot of money they have to reinvest the money in the economy. Sometimes this money ends up in the minority communities in the form of business allowing additional jobs where people can pick up survival skills by working there.
Hip Hop generation grew up with R and B and Rap.

Our Parents or Grandparents mothers and fathers came up on mostly Religious music and told their kids that they were going to go to Hell if they listed to secular music. (Music that didn't reference god). Our parents and or Grandparents listen to the same music as they did as teens even after 40ys of age. Their parents always thought that people in their forties listed to religious music or music of their time. Our parents still listen to what they grew up on today and they still make their music till this day. So will Hip Hop. There is nothing left to talk about.

The woofers and amps for the base are the people in their 40's generation. Fausegate and M&M 16, 12, 10 and 8inch are ours. We made police write noise pollution tickets because of pictures in homes falling off walls due to base vibrating thru the home from low riders on the slab with elbows and Vogue tires, classics & vogues tires, centerlines with skinny runners in front, super lights sometimes with runners. Paint jobs with metal flakes or scraped down to look wet and not to mention pearl. Holly wood tops like open carved roofs or t-tops. Teardrops carved inside of car with antennas and possibly a 5th wheel like our fathers generation digging in the scene with a gangster lien period. You just bring things back from the former generation and create new additions for your newer generation. This is what’s expected by the newer generation. I'm not passing any torch to the next generation. My torch is for life. My parents didn't stop their thing because we came on the scene and keep on doing their thing and we just keep on doing ours. They made their music and generated millions in the economy and still do and so will our generation from 30yrs to 45 years old.  WE PLAY FOR KEEPS. OUR LIVES ARE EMORTILIZED IN MUSIC AND VIDEO. The kids grew up watching our real life re in acted on videos. We have substance and have lived to see real life that people identify with. Hip Hop also served as a Pedestal to speak out. Slavery day’s music had messages. We are not going to stop anything because someone won’t something and cripple billions on dollars from circulation in the US economy. We simply can not afford it. BLACK BUSINESSES IS WHERE WE ARE AND HEADED...WITH A TRACK RECORD FOR SUCCESS. DO THE SAME THING.   Experiment on the side and change. Then see if it works.    I haven't been seeing that many platinum hit lately. You don't change things when you reach a successful routine when money is on the line as in tear thing apart to attempt to put back together if it isn't broken. Disassemble??  Cause a rippling and domino effect that an inexperienced mind can't calculate nor fix. They haven't lived enough life to even calculate repercussions down the line into darkness on an industry.  

Speak out. Slavery day’s music had messages. We are not going to stop anything because someone wants something and cripple billions on dollars from circulation in the US economy. We simply can not afford it. BLACK BUSINESSES IS WHERE WE ARE AND HEADED...WITH A TRACK RECORD FOR SUCCESS. DO THE SAME THING. Experiment on the side and change. Then see if it works. I haven't been seeing that many platinum hit lately. You don't change things when you reach a successful routine when money is on the line as in tear thing apart to attempt to put back together if it isn't broken. Disassemble?? Cause a rippling and domino effect that an inexperienced mind can't calculate nor fix. They haven't lived enough life to even calculate repercussions down the line into darkness on an industry.

                                                                             Russal Scott 

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                                                                                 Thank You,
                                                                              King Russal Scott
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    • Computer repair- billion dollar Computer assembly manufacture **
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          • Director of Placement and asst director of Sales/Marketing 3 times before the age of 25 years old doing the same things as above plus daily operation of the school on where I was need to feel a gap for the campuses success. Generating biggest portion of revenues with the same Marketing Strategies with a lot of Who’s WHO people in the City of Houston (multi Million airs –some I made rich or richer. Then the industry got swamped with Feds and Investigations. Closing was occurring. Melt down. Due to Illegal and Unethical Business Practices in Industry so we all paid the price. Misrepresentation, Disapprobation of funds, malicious interference, Defamation of character, discomfort moves causing more investigations. Ended a Houston money making situation to save/change lives in the streets business.
          • Delinquent account receivable- since I was collecting my own money all the time. Working at DCI/ Integratec /Equifax – resolving financial and legal obligations for most of the Multibillion Dollar Corporations
                                        ****** KING RUSSAL SCOTT CONTINUED ******

In the United States. Asset searches and investigations and recommending civil suits to be filled contingent upon failure to resolve voluntarily out of court.

        • Mortgage Broker/ Credit Specialist- I wanted to go back to standing on my own 2 feet and be self employed to make my own decisions. Control my own destiny after finding that my streets levels were coming from other people I need to make a buck to support my family. People put nonsense in your life that isn’t a continuing growth process. Being a dark skinned youthful look brother didn’t help especially when you have a few nice things. I set up satellite offices to do debt consolidation loans and began reducing house hold expenses like $3000.00 per month to $850.00 for example with equity. Later going into all other loans because the Equity loans in Texas are some of the hardest in the country. This made the other stuff easier.
      • I always did entertainment, Dialog, Marketing in Entertainment for Fun and breaking records ***Creating. Tap into my creative side until I produce products like I doing at this time. Writing, Books, Songs, Editorials, movie ideas, Television etc .KING RUSSAL SCOTT PRODUCTIONS? / PROMOTIONS.

Google or yahoo Russal Scott - I represent all demographics. __ CLOWNS are my one life- multifocal –identify with all demographics- make a good man bad_ 50% business, Government, science-Guru,* 30 family 10 other 10% streets streets get a lot of Hype. People are in the streets marketing also and due to humble beginnings as a youth ****

  • Sorry about the switch that the HPD made on myself and giving my identity to Jermaine Henderson

At the Murphy’s gas station and Wal-Mart parking lot in Houston near Bissonnette and Beltway 8 to aide in their entertainment theft ring to reach the spotlight. It is hard to get the spotlight if I’m doing good business due to malicious interference and other laws that Govern Corporate America. There isn’t any criminal activity. i do recpricating relationships. only.

Image reduction

I don't really know which program should be used- I generally use a Windows PowerToy to reduce images, but I'm not really a technical whizz... J Milburn (talk) 09:23, 28 November 2009 (UTC)

Yeah, I think you can download it from here. Again, there are probably others who are in a better position to give you an answer... J Milburn (talk) 17:52, 28 November 2009 (UTC)
To give you an idea of the kind of size we're talking about, album covers are reduced to 300x300 pixels. I don't see any reason for images of buildings to be much bigger than that. J Milburn (talk) 10:24, 30 November 2009 (UTC)
My program will- it's in "advanced options" or something. As I say, it's hardly an ideal program. J Milburn (talk) 18:48, 30 November 2009 (UTC)

Avient Aviation Flight 324

This article could be expanded to a similar form as Azza Transport Flight 2241. The aircraft was involved in a minor incident in Korea in 2002 (details) and Flight Global has reported on the investigation. Mjroots (talk) 09:06, 30 November 2009 (UTC)

Request to delete a redirect

Hi WhisperToMe,

Can you delete Cougar High? A user recently created it as a redirect to the University of Houston. I have blanked the page for the time being until it is deleted. Thanks! —RJN (talk) 09:43, 30 November 2009 (UTC)

Recent french buildings


I am neither a censor, nor an administrator. I dont want nominate for deletion any image, especially on this topic hard to understand for me. You wrote and I checked that you put "non free templates" on other images of recent french buildings, as they were on mine. It is OK for me.

I dont forget your requests of photo of Courbevoie townhall and Loreal HQ. Happily, I dont have to visit any more my dentist in la Defense. And according to the season, it is night before I go working or after hours. But I dont forget. In worst case, I will take these photos next april.--Tangopaso (talk) 20:09, 1 December 2009 (UTC)