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February 22[edit]

Can I crawl wikipedia, I have a specific kind of search engine for movies[edit]

Hi Sir/Madam,

Can I crawl Wikipedia, I have a specific kind of search engine for movies and would like to crawl available information. There are 2 ways I can do this one is by bulk indexing which makes sense since I can validate the data. The other is just linking which is not very useful for my application. Let me know the norms surrounding these questions.

Thanks Arvind —Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 00:22, 22 February 2011 (UTC) says: "Friendly, low-speed bots are welcome viewing article pages, but not dynamically-generated pages please". See also Wikipedia:Mirrors and forks#Remote loading. If you can restrict the crawler to movie-related articles and it doesn't go too fast then it sounds OK. If you expect to crawl most of Wikipedia then look for a dump instead. PrimeHunter (talk)

Cite problem[edit]

Antonio Arnaiz-Villena (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)

Why can't I get reference #41 to look right? I've played with it for a while now, and nothing I do works. I tried changing it to "cite web" instead of just enclosing it in brackets, but it still ends up enclosed in brackets and not resolving properly. I don't think the URL itself has any special characters that would cause this problem. What am I missing?--Bbb23 (talk) 00:40, 22 February 2011 (UTC)

There were two carriage returns in the text of the title of the journal article inside the citation. Removing them fixed the issue.[1] Cheers.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 01:00, 22 February 2011 (UTC)
Thanks! I'm glad I stopped looking at it - it was giving me a headache.--Bbb23 (talk) 01:05, 22 February 2011 (UTC)
Good work, Fuhghettaboutit: -- Uzma Gamal (talk) 17:14, 22 February 2011 (UTC)

Delay in Category listings[edit]

Resolved: by Bbb23

Unless my eyes deceive me, in the edit window for Anglican Diocese of Melbourne, it shows two categories. Yet, when viewing the article, I don't see these categories listed at the bottom of the page. Is there a delay or something, or is this a bug from the update? Avicennasis @ 01:31, 18 Adar I 5771 / 22 February 2011 (UTC)

I fixed it. The coordinates template should have been at the top of the article.--Bbb23 (talk) 01:40, 22 February 2011 (UTC)
Thanks! I had no idea that a mis-placed coord template could do that! Avicennasis @ 01:50, 18 Adar I 5771 / 22 February 2011 (UTC)
It wasn't about the coord template. It was a misformatted comment which incorrectly ended with --!> instead of -->. This meant the comment actually never ended and it swallowed the category code. The fix [2] removed the comment completely but could also just have removed the extra !. PrimeHunter (talk) 02:07, 22 February 2011 (UTC)

article credit[edit]

If additional information is contributed in discussion of an article, what is the process of the said contribution added to that article? —Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 02:36, 22 February 2011 (UTC)

I assume you refer to attribution be given to the original author to satisfy their license rights. If material is copied from another page then link to the page in the edit summary. See more at Wikipedia:Copying within Wikipedia. If it's copied from the article's talk page then "copied from talk page" without a link should be sufficient. PrimeHunter (talk) 03:01, 22 February 2011 (UTC)
  • This edit added the content to the article talk page. If you want to add that contribution to the Penny (United States coin) article, you need to open the Penny (United States coin) article and add it. You also may want to use Template:Cite book in the article to cite the source of the information. -- Uzma Gamal (talk) 17:22, 22 February 2011 (UTC)

Deleting without scaring off a new editor[edit]

Do re mi (nirvana song) has just appeared. It isn't a notable song so should become a redirect to the album it's on, and may then be deleted as an implausible redirect. The problem is, it's someone's first contribution to wikipedia and I don't want to scare them off. What do? Stu.W UK (talk) 03:09, 22 February 2011 (UTC)

Leave a message on the creator's talk page explaining, in plain English, why their article is going to be deleted. Verifiability is probably the key in this case, so explain why we can't have content about things that haven't been written about elsewhere. Don't use any abbreviations or Wiki-jargon, but do insert links to relevant policies so that they can read them if they want. Invite them to ask questions about policy. (I usually end an explanation of policy with "Does that make sense?" to leave the possibility that I haven't explained very well clear.) Thank them for their contribution. Direct them to Wikipedia:WikiProject Alternative music. Perhaps suggest other Nirvana song articles that need work. These are just suggestions and things that I do. This approach doesn't always work, but usually people seem pretty receptive. It looks like it's a bit late in this case, but it's worth a shot. Danger (talk) 13:45, 22 February 2011 (UTC)
Gonzonoir provides an excellent example when she explains username policy below. It's a different situation, but models the kind of language that's accessible to new users. --Danger (talk) 13:53, 22 February 2011 (UTC)
Great thanks. Too late this time, but I'll keep this in mind in the future Stu.W UK (talk) 15:50, 22 February 2011 (UTC)

Page creation[edit]

Is it possible to request the creation of a page? Hallpriest9 (Talk) 04:32, 22 February 2011 (UTC)

see Wikipedia:Requested articles. thanks! Monterey Bay (talk) 04:36, 22 February 2011 (UTC)

Facebook like button[edit]


It's my request to Wikipedia editors or anyone else.. Please put the facebook "Like" button on every article as the others websites do. It would be great to share what do you like!

Thanks.. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tsnaik (talkcontribs) 06:01, 22 February 2011 (UTC)

The best place to make suggestions like this is at The Village Pump. However, I do not think that you will get a lot of support for the idea because Wikipedia is not Facebook: it is an encyclopaedia, and articles are ideally rated according to objective criteria rather than popularity (see for example WP:FA). You can give an appreciation to a particular editor by giving them a barnstar, though. --ColinFine (talk) 08:11, 22 February 2011 (UTC)
  • Instead of the Like button, Wikipedia uses assessment grades on every article. Strong dislikes result in the article being listed here and strong likes result in the article being listed here. Any chance of putting links to relevant Wikipedia articles on every facebook page? Google maps already does something like that.[3] Please ask around facebook and let us know how it goes. Thanks. -- Uzma Gamal (talk) 17:27, 22 February 2011 (UTC)
Are you sure that the assessment grades to which you refer above apply to every article? - David Biddulph (talk) 17:54, 22 February 2011 (UTC)
We do have a pilot article feedback; see Category:Article Feedback Pilot. -— Gadget850 (Ed) talk 18:12, 22 February 2011 (UTC)
Couple of comments: First, articles are not listed for deletion if someone dislikes them, they are listed because a user believes they should be deleted because they do not meet Wikipedia policy, usually with respect to notability. Sometimes, admittedly, articles are sent to Afd for the wrong reasons, but they are usually quickly identified and the Afd closed as a "keep". Second, assessments do not appear on "every article", but only on those where someone has taken the trouble to make an assessment and completed a talk page Project template appropriately. Registered users can quickly see those assessments on article pages by enabling the appropriate gadget in their preferences. – ukexpat (talk) 18:18, 22 February 2011 (UTC)
While technically articles are listed at AfD because a user believes they should be deleted because they do not meet Wikipedia policy, I think my help explaination is better and friendlier to someone in ColinFine's position. Wikipedia uses assessment grades on articles and they appear only on those where someone has taken the trouble to make an assessment and completed a talk page Project template appropriately. For example, the straw man article is a start-class article. -- Uzma Gamal (talk) 12:47, 25 February 2011 (UTC)

This is a mystery and I need someone to explain this[edit]

I tried to create an account using the name I use every where else on-line ... Cat Yoga, but it wouldn't let me. I thought it said that it was too similar to CatYoga, which was listed. But I can't tell if it is listed as a name or a subject? You see, I created The Ancient Art of Cat Yoga as a comedic hoax in 1994. I was featured in the tabloids, who wrote about my Cat Yoga school (picture Turban wearing House-Cats who sit in the Lotus Position and Meditate. ( I was a featured guest on the Geraldo Rivera Show) ....When I looked further in Wikipedia, I saw CatYoga listed on the page of Don Black, a White Supremacist ??? It says Don Black (White Supremacist) External links: followed by something that says: Operation Red Dog .... Can anyone explain this to me? Why is catyoga listed as an external link to a white supremacist ? What does that mean? I am NOT asking you to change anything, just to explain it to me. I would like to create a CatYoga page — Preceding unsigned comment added by Death Safari (talkcontribs) 08:15, 22 February 2011 (UTC)

Hi Death Safari. You're getting this notice on trying to register User:Cat Yoga because someone registered the username CatYoga on May 4 2009 (see here). The Wikimedia software prevents the registration of usernames very similar to those that already exist, to avoid confusion and impersonation. That user has never edited here or on any other Wikimedia projects (see here), so you might be successful in a request to usurp that username and use it yourself.
The reference to in the Don Black article is unrelated to the username issue: the URL you'res seeing in that article reflects the fact that, as well as pages on cat yoga at, hosts a biography (at of James Earl Ray (who was convicted of assassinating Martin Luther King, Jr.). Whoever maintains the domain appears to have interests in both Ray and, uh, flexible felines. (Whether it's an appropriate external link is another matter; it appears to be a hobby site which wouldn't necessarily meet our reliable sources requirements); but I haven't looked into this in detail.)
Does that clear things up? Gonzonoir (talk) 09:11, 22 February 2011 (UTC)
(e/c) As for creating an article on cat yoga, I recommend that you don't try to do this as Wikipedia, since you would have a conflict of interest when writing an article based on media coverage about yourself. -- John of Reading (talk) 09:13, 22 February 2011 (UTC)
Yes, sorry, I may have misinterpreted the original post: creating a user account with the name CatYoga or some variant thereof is likely to be acceptable, but you shouldn't write an article about a subject with which you have close personal involvement. Gonzonoir (talk) 09:20, 22 February 2011 (UTC)
WP:COI clearly states that "COI editing is strongly discouraged" but nowhere does it say that it is prohibited. All users are welcome to start articles that comply with Wikipedia principles, even on subjects they are connected with. Please be more careful with advice you give based on the COI policy. Weakopedia (talk) 09:24, 22 February 2011 (UTC)
From WP:COI - "When someone voluntarily discloses a conflict of interest, other editors should always assume the editor is trying to do the right thing. Do not use a voluntarily disclosed conflict of interest as a weapon against the editor." Weakopedia (talk) 09:26, 22 February 2011 (UTC)
Perhaps I’m missing something, but I don’t see anyone here saying COI editing is prohibited; you are really the only one who even says it is strongly discouraged. And if a user discloses a COI, telling him that COI editing is discouraged is not using the disclosure as a weapon against him. —teb728 t c 12:51, 22 February 2011 (UTC)
Why yes, it does appear that you are missing something.
User John of Reading said to the poster "I recommend that you don't try to do this", backed up by user Gonzonoir who said "you shouldn't write an article about a subject with which you have close personal involvement", so me pointing out that they said this is hardly controversial, and it may be that you made a mistake while reading their words? Both of those statements are a long way from advising the poster on the correct way to approach a potential COI situation.
Anyways, you also mistakenly suggest that I am "the only one who even says it is strongly discouraged", when I not only linked to the policy page that I was quoting from but used quotation marks to really spell it out for people who were hard of understanding that it was, in fact, a quote, and not my own personal opinion.
I strongly suggest that you visit the COI page to understand what that policy means, and we also have a page on inverted commas if that has proven to be a stumbling block for you. And next time, perhaps try reading the posts a little more closely before commenting? Cheers. Weakopedia (talk) 13:04, 22 February 2011 (UTC)
  • Per the above, to register the user name User:Cat Yoga, file a request at Wikipedia:Changing username/Usurpations and request to usurp User:CatYoga. The link in the Don Black (white nationalist) article is to sourced information about Don Black on a subpage of If you do not think the information belongs on that website, an administrator of (see this) can delete the Don Black white nationalist posted on a subpage of To create the Wikipedia article Cat Yoga, click on the link Cat Yoga (or Ancient Art of Cat Yoga or Mike Gabriel (comedian) - what ever it is reliable sources are writing about) and post content that is from a reliable source not connected with Cat Yoga. If you need any help, please post on my talk page. -- Uzma Gamal (talk) 16:42, 22 February 2011 (UTC)

Missing space!!![edit]

Where is the space for questions? Why can I not search for articles of interest anymore? Your new page arrangement is not pretty! Jillian —Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 12:23, 22 February 2011 (UTC)

The search box is at the top right. See Help:Searching for more detail. -- John of Reading (talk) 12:33, 22 February 2011 (UTC)
The position of the search box depends on your preference settings. For me the search box is in the tool bar on the left-hand side. - David Biddulph (talk) 16:07, 22 February 2011 (UTC)
Also, if you register an account, you can use the old wikipedia page layout. --Danger (talk) 13:31, 22 February 2011 (UTC)

Page reverted by someone without a clue[edit]

I edited a page today and got this reply:

"Welcome to Wikipedia. The recent edit you made to Eala Freya Fresena has been reverted, as it appears to be unconstructive. Use the sandbox for testing; if you believe the edit was constructive, ensure that you provide an informative edit summary. You may also wish to read the introduction to editing. Thank you. Closedmouth (talk) 10:24, 22 February 2011 (UTC)"

The funny thing is 1) I am of firesian descent and should know the correct terms, 2) if you'd care to check the gGerman and Friesian pages you'd see I am correct and 3) the suggestions he made are soooo long-winded, no sane person is going to follow them.

Do you want articles improved by people have the right knowledge at their disposal, or do you prefer moderators, who apparently haven't the faintest idea about the issue in question, delete corrections and return the page to its erroneous content?

NB. At the top of the page the person was actually being rather insulting saying something to the effect that me being stupid was not very nice but sadly a fact. I really do wonder who is stupid, Mr. Closedmouth, or I.

Looking at the page history of your talk page, I see that the first message was added by an anonymous editor almost a year ago. Ignore it.
Today's message shows the importance of filling in the edit summary box when making an edit, so that other editors can quickly see the reasoning behind the edit. At first glance, your edit looks just like vandalism - adding one extra character so that the first line of the text no longer matches the article title. So, although Closedmouth (talk · contribs) made a mistake here, it was an understandable mistake.
I will shortly be moving the article to the correct name and re-instating your edit. -- John of Reading (talk) 13:50, 22 February 2011 (UTC)
  • The article was moved from from Eala Freya Fresena to Eala Frya Fresena. "Eala Freya Fresena" - 141 Google book hits[4]. "Eala Frya Fresena" - 79 Google book hits[5]. Google books asks "Did you mean: "Eala Freya Fresena"" when searching out Eala Frya Fresena. -- Uzma Gamal (talk) 16:18, 22 February 2011 (UTC)
What John said. Apologies for the mistake, but we get that kind of thing constantly (a subtle change of spelling), and 99.9% of the time, it's vandalism. A simple comment in the edit summary, and I would have skipped over your edit with no second thoughts. --Closedmouth (talk) 17:11, 22 February 2011 (UTC)

Broken link to MOS[edit]

The link Wikipedia:Manual of Style#Quotation marks is broken; it goes only to the top of the page. Apparently the register feature adds "[R]" to the URL. —teb728 t c 13:56, 22 February 2011 (UTC)

The link above takes me directly to the section Quotation marks. I am using XP professional with IE7. ~~ GB fan ~~ 14:04, 22 February 2011 (UTC)
I use Windows 7 with IE8. —teb728 t c 14:26, 22 February 2011 (UTC)
Dito: the link is correct and working in Win 7 with Opera and IE8. @teb728 Maybe something is wrong with your browser mabdul 16:45, 22 February 2011 (UTC)

It's working for me too now (after returning from hibernate). Weird. —teb728 t c 01:25, 23 February 2011 (UTC)

It also works for me except it's a line too far down so the section heading itself is not visible. I didn't know the register feature but I guess it refers to the use of {{MOSR-link}} in the section heading which creates a "[R]" link at the right going to a section of Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Register. PrimeHunter (talk) 13:49, 23 February 2011 (UTC)

adding an article[edit]

Hi! I just wanna ask how to add an article in wikipedia? the easiest way? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Keithryncasipong (talkcontribs) 14:14, 22 February 2011 (UTC)

First of all you have to read WP:WWIN to avoid a speedy deletion of your article. If you want to create an article simply type the title in the search box on the left. There at the bottom you can read this:

There were no results matching the query.

You may create the page "Ahfdioahfs", but consider checking the search results below to see whether it is already covered. For search help, please visit Help:Searching.

Then click on the red link. Now you can edit your article. If you think the article is ready for reader's eyes, save it. If you want to preview what you wrote, click on "Show preview".-- ♫Greatorangepumpkin♫ T 15:02, 22 February 2011 (UTC)
To create an an article on REDX Industries, click on the link REDX Industries. In the space provided, post REDX Industries content that is from reliable sources that are independent of REDX Industries. Then select save. -- Uzma Gamal (talk) 16:06, 22 February 2011 (UTC)
I left a couple of messages on your talk page with some helpful links and advice. – ukexpat (talk) 17:03, 22 February 2011 (UTC)
See the Article Wizard. -— Gadget850 (Ed) talk 18:50, 22 February 2011 (UTC)

Sources, lots of them[edit]

What to do in cases where there are too many sources to actually check (especially with my busted network...) but the first few ones are clearly not reliable (opinion posts etc)? [6] is what I'm referring to. Zakhalesh (talk) 17:46, 22 February 2011 (UTC)

Trim back the bad ones a few at a time; there is no deadline. --Orange Mike | Talk 19:54, 22 February 2011 (UTC)
This was an extreme example with 65 citations in the opening paragraph to support a POV. It has been reverted and the edit-warring IP who added them has been blocked. I have added the case to Wikipedia:Citation overkill#Examples. PrimeHunter (talk) 02:45, 23 February 2011 (UTC)


I've noticed that only some links generate Tooltips when moused over (in the past, any link would generate a ToolTip). Does anyone know why this is? Hallpriest9 (Talk) 17:53, 22 February 2011 (UTC)

Creating a page about a business[edit]

Hello, If I was operating a well known business in the UK, and wanted a page made about that business, would that be allowed, and how would a person go about doing that.

An example would be 'The Range' -

Thank you —Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 18:41, 22 February 2011 (UTC)

Wikipedia:FAQ/Organizations should answer all your questions. -— Gadget850 (Ed) talk 18:45, 22 February 2011 (UTC)
Whatever you do, do not use The Range Home and Leisure as the model for an article about a company. The sourcing is woefully inadequate and does not, IMHO, reach the level reaquired to demonstrate the notability of the subject. It is also rather spammy and non-neutral in tone. In fact, I am surprised it has survived so long. Take a look at Microsoft, Dow Chemical Company, DuPont, and Pfizer as better models. – ukexpat (talk) 19:54, 22 February 2011 (UTC)
I was going to ask "exactly which part of the article is spammy and non-neutral?" when all I saw was hard, non-disputable facts, but then I looked at the edit history and saw that it used to contain content that could be considered spammy and non-neutral, but which was removed less than fifteen minutes ago. JIP | Talk 20:03, 22 February 2011 (UTC)
Yes, OrangeMike and I did some clean up. – ukexpat (talk) 22:31, 22 February 2011 (UTC)

how to publish my article[edit]

I cannot figure out how to make my article visible on Wikipedia. —Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 18:53, 22 February 2011 (UTC)

Try WP:1ST, and some of the links from there, such as WP:WIZ. - David Biddulph (talk) 19:06, 22 February 2011 (UTC)

Quick closure[edit]

I decided to withdraw one of my afd nominations and need help with someone who can close it down for me please. It can be found here. Minimac (talk) 19:22, 22 February 2011 (UTC)

Done. Jarkeld (talk) 19:33, 22 February 2011 (UTC)

Upload Image to replace old one[edit]

Moved from the computing reference desk. This is a question about using Wikipedia, not a factual question about computing in general. JIP | Talk 19:51, 22 February 2011 (UTC)

Can somebody upload the following logo to the University of London wiki page to replace the emblem as it has now changed?,r:2,s:0&tx=145&ty=31

Wiki: —Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 19:00, 22 February 2011 (UTC)

 Done - File:UofLondon logo.png. – ukexpat (talk) 22:38, 22 February 2011 (UTC)

removed references[edit]

Dear all, A necessary reference to Sundial#Sundials_in_the_Southern_Hemisphere has been replaced with some references that do not actually back up the points raised. The POV I can sort later but try as I might I cannot find a version of the article with the original reference at all. Are references not logged? I am happy to learn how to do this (simple instructions please) but after 2 hours I am not getting anywhere. The original will be a book reference to the Story of Time ed Kristen Lippincott. Thanks Edmund Patrickconfer 21:02, 22 February 2011 (UTC)

It looks like you figured it out yourself. Just so you know, if you are looking for a particular edit that removed or added text, a tool like WikiBlame can be very useful.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 21:52, 22 February 2011 (UTC)
You originally added the reference for later sections in [7] before there was a "Sundials in the Southern Hemisphere" section. You added the section three weeks later [8] without using the reference. Whether it has ever been used as reference in that section would be time consuming to test but I didn't find it in a limited search. PrimeHunter (talk) 22:10, 22 February 2011 (UTC)
Dear both, many thanks, I would still stake my wikilife on the fact that the book does reference the southern hemisphere so would have used it but history tells another story. Thanks for both of your valueable times. Edmund Patrickconfer 06:40, 23 February 2011 (UTC)

Global log in[edit]

I agreed to the global log in scheme in order to edit Wikiquote too, and to my surprise the site has automatically generated a profile for me on French Wikipedia. Problem is, I already have a separate profile on French Wikipedia, and now whenever I log on to either I find myself automatically logged off the other one. This puzzles me as there is a "log me in globally" option which I always leave unticked. Is there any way of opting out of the scheme? This is massively irritating. Mezigue (talk) 21:42, 22 February 2011 (UTC)

Did you use Special:MergeAccount? Do all your accounts have the same name? --Teratornis (talk) 01:17, 23 February 2011 (UTC)
Yes I have. The problem is that my accounts do not have the same name, but the system thinks they do. What I do not understand is that unticking the "log me globally" option seems to have no effect. I don't actually mind switching to the same name in French but that is against the rules on sockpupetting etc... Mezigue (talk) 13:34, 23 February 2011 (UTC)
It is permissable to have more than one account (I do) so long as you don't use the other account for disruptive purposes such as evading a block or a ban, vandalism etc. – ukexpat (talk) 14:14, 23 February 2011 (UTC)
Wikipedia languages can have diferent rules. I don't know whether the French have the same rules about more than one account. Wikipedia:Sock puppetry is a policy here. It links to fr:Wikipédia:Faux-nez which is apparently an essay. It appears to allow more than one account in some situations. PrimeHunter (talk) 14:20, 23 February 2011 (UTC)
Thank you both. I guess I'll just have to bow to the will of the machine... ;) Mezigue (talk) 14:57, 23 February 2011 (UTC)





THANKING YOU SIR / MADAM , — Preceding unsigned comment added by C C K C (talkcontribs) 22:20, 22 February 2011 (UTC)

The page Arthi Agarwal now points to the correct spelling. I believe it should remain as a pointer to the correct spelling, since it seems to be a common misspelling. This is known as a redirect. TNXMan 22:25, 22 February 2011 (UTC)


Why are names and links such as Federico Faggin (Federico F-a-g-g-i-n) shown as "Federico @#!*%"? I suspect that this is peculiar to my settings, but I do not know how to change such filtering. Or is this a global filter setting I cannot change? — Loadmaster (talk) 23:04, 22 February 2011 (UTC)

That's weird! It's nothing to do with Wikipedia or your Wikipedia account. Are you browsing from a school or other organisation that would implement some kind of filter? And just out of curiosity, what do you see for Tyson Gay? Adrian J. Hunter(talkcontribs) 23:23, 22 February 2011 (UTC)
Doh! It's Net Nanny, which in its brilliance has decided to protect me from potentially offending words. Sheesh. (And thanks.) BTW, Tyson Gay was not filtered, go figure. — Loadmaster (talk) 23:26, 22 February 2011 (UTC)
Good thing you didn't want to read about shitake mushrooms!-RHM22 (talk) 23:33, 22 February 2011 (UTC)
Oops, upon closer inspection, that's spelled with to "I"s. I guess young eyes need not be shielded from it.-RHM22 (talk) 23:34, 22 February 2011 (UTC)
Sounds like you can now read about Austrian towns and English thoroughfares 'til your heart's content. For anyone who's wondering, this is why I asked about Tyson Gay. Adrian J. Hunter(talkcontribs) 00:55, 23 February 2011 (UTC)
It's already in a WP article. Scunthorpe problem Don't be discouraged by dumb machines which try to do a human's work. Blame the humans running the machines instead. ;-) Had to remove a (suspected) vandalism containing the word "fag" yesterday. (talk) 06:40, 24 February 2011 (UTC)
That's why friends of gays should not be allowed to edit articles. Anyway I've duly added Scunthorpe problem to Wikipedia:Unusual articles. Adrian J. Hunter(talkcontribs) 13:42, 24 February 2011 (UTC)

A number of users that edited the page for Design the Skyline also had this done to it. I wondered if it was just people that felt it was necessary to replace the word "fuck" with something less offending, but no, it's the jackasses that designed Net Nanny that did this. I feel maybe a configuration for Wikipedia to block out Net Nanny's settings as an edit to the site may be in order if that's possible. • GunMetal Angel 14:32, 17 August 2011 (UTC)

How do I cite a peice of Audio as a source?[edit]

Hello, I'm wondering how to cite a peice of Audio as a source. There is a webpage with an interview I'd like to use, but I am not sure how to do it. Although it's a web source, I know that videos have to be cited with different parameters in the citation?.. Also how do you archive the audio? As I have only ever archived webpages.RAIN*the*ONE BAM 23:17, 22 February 2011 (UTC)

I'm not sure if this will help, but there is a template for citing audio and video here.-RHM22 (talk) 23:23, 22 February 2011 (UTC)