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Template:Infobox spacecraft

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The result of the discussion was delete. Were it not for the previous discussion at WT:SPACEFLIGHT this discussion would be right at a "no consensus", but there's not enough here to change that previous consensus. With no current transclusions and a previous deprecation there's nothing left to do but delete. Primefac (talk) 01:49, 3 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

The template documentation says it is being phased out, but I don't see the deletion discussion. If it's being deleted, it should be actually replaced (as per the template doc) with either {{Infobox spaceflight}} for articles about single spacecraft or {{Infobox spacecraft class}} for articles about multiple spacecraft and then deleted. Gonnym (talk) 09:39, 3 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Keep - The fact that this was overturned in a recent DRV is enough for me. I agree with O'Dea that "Spaceflight" and "spacecraft" are two distinct things and remind editors here that WP:CCC. - Knowledgekid87 (talk) 23:14, 16 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]
    • The DRV concerned itself solely with issues of procedure, and says nothing about the merits of the template. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 23:57, 16 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]
      • There isn't any evidence that this template was a candidate for being phased out then. I also agreed with O'Dea's assessment. - Knowledgekid87 (talk) 05:08, 17 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]
        • That could be true, if by "no evidence" you mean ignoring the discussion I linked to. --Gonnym (talk) 07:32, 17 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]
        • Yes there is; you seem to have missed the link posted by Gonnym, above, with timestamp "22:47, 10 February".You're also not giving any reason that the template is actually needed. Finally, O'Dea's "it's not as if it disrupts Wikipedia in any way" is an argument of a kind expressly deprecated in WP:HARMLESS. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 12:32, 17 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]
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Template:Culture of Malaysia

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The result of the discussion was relisted on 2019 April 1. Primefac (talk) 04:37, 1 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:Contemporary Art Galleries in London

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The result of the discussion was Delete; deleted by Fastily (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT⚡ 06:06, 24 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Unused navbox. Appears to be an abandoned draft. No actual link content. Zackmann (Talk to me/What I been doing) 21:03, 16 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:Communist Parties of South America

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The result of the discussion was Delete; deleted by Fastily (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT⚡ 06:06, 24 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Unused navbox. WP:NAVBOXCREEP Zackmann (Talk to me/What I been doing) 21:02, 16 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:Comics-trades

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The result of the discussion was relisted on 2019 April 1. Primefac (talk) 04:42, 1 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:2016–17 Midland Football League Premier Division table

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The result of the discussion was Delete; deleted by Fastily (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT⚡ 06:06, 24 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Unused table, already placed on the parent article directly. Zackmann (Talk to me/What I been doing) 20:59, 16 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:Chinese aeroengines

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The result of the discussion was relisted on 2019 April 3. Primefac (talk) 01:04, 3 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:Chojnice – Runowo Pomorskie line

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The result of the discussion was Delete; deleted by Fastily (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT⚡ 06:06, 24 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Unused navbox with mostly redlinks. WP:EXISTING & WP:NENAN both apply. Zackmann (Talk to me/What I been doing) 20:53, 16 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:Dreezy

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The result of the discussion was delete. — JJMC89 (T·C) 07:38, 24 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

WP: NENAN, too soon, not enough links. StaticVapor message me! 19:24, 16 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:Philippine Piso NGC series

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The result of the discussion was delete. — JJMC89 (T·C) 07:36, 24 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Unneeded as a template; subst the one transclusion and then delete DannyS712 (talk) 05:25, 23 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:Philippine peso NGC bills

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The result of the discussion was delete. — JJMC89 (T·C) 07:48, 24 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Unneeded as a template; subst the one transclusion and then delete DannyS712 (talk) 05:25, 23 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

  • Keep It serves as navigation to related wiki pages, i.e., clicking the 20-peso bill points to its main article
    Moon Rivers (talk) 11:42 24 February 2019 (UTC +8:00)
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Template:Philippine peso NGC coins

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The result of the discussion was Delete; deleted by Fastily (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT⚡ 06:06, 24 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Unneeded as a template; subst the one transclusion and then delete DannyS712 (talk) 05:25, 23 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

  • Keep It serves as navigation to related wiki pages, i.e., clicking the one-peso coin points to its main article
    Moon Rivers (talk) 11:42 24 February 2019 (UTC +8:00)
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Template:NGC Series banknotes and coins

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The result of the discussion was Delete; deleted by Fastily (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT⚡ 06:06, 24 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Unneeded as a template; subst the one transclusion and then delete DannyS712 (talk) 05:26, 23 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:Nippon Professional Draft by year

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The result of the discussion was speedy keep. I  withdraw this nomination given its use now, closing as speedy keep per criterion #1. (non-admin closure) DannyS712 (talk) 11:27, 24 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Nippon Professional Baseball draft doesn't exist; neither should the navbox. DannyS712 (talk) 05:31, 23 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

  • Keep The main article will be created shortly and at present this is the only item that allows users to move between draft pages by year, otherwise the url needs to be manually changed. I'd prefer it remains to allow ease of navigation. Cynikles (talk) 23:01, 24 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]
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D&RGW S-line templates

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The result of the discussion was Delete -FASTILY 05:02, 24 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Superseded by Module:Adjacent stations/Denver and Rio Grande Western Railroad. All transclusions replaced. Mackensen (talk) 13:55, 16 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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Atlantic Coast Line Railroad S-line templates

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The result of the discussion was Delete -FASTILY 05:02, 24 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Superseded by Module:Adjacent stations/Atlantic Coast Line Railroad. All transclusions replaced. Mackensen (talk) 13:15, 16 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:Ceres–Negros F.C. squad

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The result of the discussion was withdrawn. Now in use. (non-admin closure) Zackmann (Talk to me/What I been doing) 17:14, 18 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

unused navbox template. Zackmann (Talk to me/What I been doing) 05:35, 16 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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We're not saying every club, though, just ones where there are many notable players (like this). GiantSnowman 12:53, 18 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]
When I look (randomly) at Category:Albanian football squad navigational boxes I find {{KF Apolonia Fier squad}} has 3 blue links but 5 transclusions. {{Besa Kavajë squad}} has 1 Rogers who seems to have left them in 2016. These "current" templates are worse than useless unless someone keeps them up to date. Nigej (talk) 14:14, 18 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Then why not do so yourself? GiantSnowman 14:29, 18 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Because I believe that the concept is fundamentally flawed. These "current" templates should be restricted to situations where there is significant interest. Otherwise they get out-of-date and nobody notices because no one's using it. Nigej (talk) 14:54, 18 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Nigej, again, why not help us update instead of deletion? Hhkohh (talk) 15:19, 18 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]
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Template:Catholic Bishops of Pittsburgh

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The result of the discussion was Delete; deleted by Fastily (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT⚡ 06:06, 24 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Unused timeline template. Zackmann (Talk to me/What I been doing) 05:34, 16 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:C Sharp

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The result of the discussion was Delete; deleted by Fastily (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT⚡ 06:06, 24 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Unused navbox. Zackmann (Talk to me/What I been doing) 05:28, 16 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:CSR stations

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The result of the discussion was Delete; deleted by Fastily (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT⚡ 06:06, 24 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

unused template that just produces a plainlink. Zackmann (Talk to me/What I been doing) 05:27, 16 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:CONCACAF Gold Cup MVP

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The result of the discussion was Delete; deleted by Fastily (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT⚡ 06:06, 24 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Unused template with no parent article. Zackmann (Talk to me/What I been doing) 05:27, 16 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:CONCACAF Gold Cup winning managers

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The result of the discussion was Delete; deleted by Fastily (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT⚡ 06:06, 24 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

This is WP:NAVBOXCREEP at its finest. There is an article about the winning teams, we don't need a navbox linking all the managers... Plus this template isn't even used. WP:NENAN Zackmann (Talk to me/What I been doing) 05:27, 16 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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Unused C.D. Primeiro de Agosto templates

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The result of the discussion was Delete -FASTILY 05:02, 24 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Unused navboxes that all list the playes that were on a certain team in a certain year. Not EVERYTHING needs a navbox. The current team is one thing, but linking every player that was on the team in the same year is just overkill. --Zackmann (Talk to me/What I been doing) 05:24, 16 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:Three Men in a Boat

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The result of the discussion was merge to Template:Jerome K. Jerome. — JJMC89 (T·C) 07:50, 24 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Propose merging Template:Three Men in a Boat with Template:Jerome K. Jerome.
Massive overlap between the two templates. The total set of article involved is 9 or ten, and Template:Three Men in a Boat is basically a reformatted version of Template:Jerome K. Jerome, with 3 extra links. This duplication is a hindrance to navigation. BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 04:59, 16 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

support JarrahTree 05:34, 16 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]
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N.B.:Since BrownHairedGirl has attempted to serve as both the nominator and the closer, I have reverted her closing edits.-TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 04:15, 26 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Oh dear. Tony is not content with criticising me for miscounting (sorry!), but then repeats a false claim that only 2 links were common: it's actually three, because Tony repeatedly fails to count the head article.
And its simply untrue to assert that I have attempted to serve as both the nominator and the closer.
The closer's role is to evaluate the debate and close it. JJMC89 closed the debate in this edit[2], at 07:50, 24 March 2019
However, the closer is not required to personally do all the spadework, and it is quite common for the nominator to implement the closer's decision. So when he close was unimplemented after 44 hours, I implemented the closer's decision in these 6 edits[3].
I note that Tony has no substantive complaint about the merged template, visible here. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 05:05, 26 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Template:CT Corp

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The result of the discussion was delete. — JJMC89 (T·C) 07:51, 24 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Only used on a single page, the parent article CT Corp. Almost entirely WP:REDLINKS which violates WP:EXISTING Zackmann (Talk to me/What I been doing) 03:39, 16 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:Canadian federal by-election, May 13, 2002/Saint Boniface

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The result of the discussion was Delete; deleted by Fastily (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT⚡ 06:06, 24 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Unused election results template. Per precedent at this tfd... To paraphrase an editor at that TFD: The results of the <insert election year> election are there. That information isn't going to change. There is no reason to have a template (even if used on multiple pages) to convey information that is completely static. Same logic applies here, particularly since the template is UNUSED! Zackmann (Talk to me/What I been doing) 00:10, 16 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:1996 New Zealand general election by electorate

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The result of the discussion was keep. The TFD crew are in the process of creating a list of "common outcomes" at TFD. These single- or two-use templates have mixed outcomes, with some being kept, some being subst/deleted, and some (with 2+ transclusions) being shared via WP:LST. If it becomes clear(er) that one of these outcomes is the preferred outcome of such templates, there is no prejudice against renomination. Primefac (talk) 01:00, 3 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Unused Single-use election results template. Per precedent at this tfd... To paraphrase an editor at that TFD: The results of the <insert election year> election are there. That information isn't going to change. There is no reason to have a template (even if used on multiple pages) to convey information that is completely static. Same logic applies here. The tables should be subst directly onto the page and the template deleted. Zackmann (Talk to me/What I been doing) 00:09, 16 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Actually they are used. Somehow there has been a naming error which meant that other templates were included on the pages instead of these ones. Thanks you for highlighting this Zackmann08, I have corrected it. Since they now have transclusions I recommend the deletion tags now be removed. Kiwichris (talk) 00:52, 16 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]
@Kiwichris: nomination update, but per the precedent, they should be subst directly into the article and the template deleted. --Zackmann (Talk to me/What I been doing) 03:04, 16 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • keep It’s the convention of the NZ politics task force to use templates for results if they are needed on more than one page. Things invariably change (not the results but names, notability, etc) and not all editors know when the same info needs to be updated in several places. After chasing our tails for years we eventually started using templates and the problems went away apart from the occasional nomination for deletion. Schwede66 18:18, 16 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Subst and delete per nom. Each seems to be only used once. This sort of information should only appear once. If similar templates are used more than once, this is a sign that one set of the data should be removed, linking to the only set. Nigej (talk) 21:32, 16 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep The idea was that the templates would be housed on both election and nth Parliament pages and that only one edit would be required to update both locations (efficiency in a nutshell). Somehow these templates have erroneously had both their transclusions removed, but can simply be re-added to the respective pages and once again comply with the agreed convention. Kiwichris (talk) 00:32, 17 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]
    only one edit would be required to update both locations What about this template could possibly need updating, given that the results of past elections can't change. {{3x|p}}ery (talk) 03:18, 18 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]
    The main thing that is updated on these templates are the links. Naming conventions can change and links to biographies and electorates need to be updated to reflect the change. Links are also added as candidates acquire notability and have articles of their own. Kiwichris (talk) 06:56, 18 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]
    In addition, these templates are part of a series going back to 1853. The further back you go, the more uncertainty there is about results, names of unsuccessful candidates, etc. Schwede66 18:36, 23 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep per Schwede66. Importantly, if they needed on more than one page, according of the NZ politics they forced to use for template as a result of an election, also the respective pages again comply if convention as been agreed. Links also been added and reflect the change and notability. Sheldybett (talk) 00:36, 19 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep as per others, also occasionally some of the unsuccessful candidates get articles later on via becoming MPs for the later ones and for older ones getting articles via entry in one of the DNZBs. J947 (c), at 03:16, 28 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • And also, nominate all of them if you want to delete them. I know that there was a transclusion error but it should be fairly obvious that there are others following the same pattern which didn't have an error. J947 (c), at 03:24, 28 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]
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The result of the discussion was Delete; deleted by Fastily (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT⚡ 06:06, 24 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Unused election template. Per precedent at this tfd. To paraphrase an editor at that TFD: The results of the <insert election year> election are there. That information isn't going to change. There is no reason to have a template (even if used on multiple pages) to convey information that is completely static. Same logic applies here, particularly since the template is UNUSED! Zackmann (Talk to me/What I been doing) 00:07, 16 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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