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Entertainment

Why was my page deleted while I was still editing it? Hello, I am new to Wikipedia and was trying to teach my self how to use it when I spent 6 house working on it just to have it deleted while I was still editing it? I am an entertainer just like all of the other entertainers on Wikipedia so if my page violates the rules then theirs should be removed also. Please explain... — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tempastwulf (talkcontribs) 12:44, 14 December 2016 (UTC)

I was in the middle of editing it the way that was requested of me. I am not a computer person so it was taking me longer then most people I guess. The question was not just "why did you delete" The rest of that was "while I was editing" There should be a time limit of 48 hours from the time the speedy request was done until it is deleted. giving the person ample time to make corrections. Not just a "I deleted it fuck you I am old and don't give a shit response." There needs to be a middle ground for people learning how to use this outdated, non user-friendly system. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tempastwolf (talkcontribs) --23:27, 17 December 2016 (UTC)

Hello, how can I send you a link to something that was deleted? I was in the middle of correcting my mistakes in my sandbox when it was deleted. Now I can not access the information. [1] — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tempastwulf (talkcontribs)

  • No wonder you find Wikipedia difficult if you cannot answer the simple question "what did the deletion log entry say". But I will not pursue that any more.
Your fallacy lies in "just like all of the other entertainers". No! Not all entertainers are the same and hence you cannot be just like all of them. Your page was a blatant piece of self-promotion. Kindly have the decency to wait until someone with no CoI thinks you are notable and writes about you here. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 07:45, 18 December 2016 (UTC)

Deletion of Cairo contemporary dance center

Dear RHaworth, I was really surprised to realize that you apparently took the unilateral decision to delete an article that I created on Cairo contemporary dance center, under the pretext that it is, according to your only personal judgement advertising.

Cairo contemporary dance center is a non-profit organization and educational institution, exactly like Julliard school or London Contemporary Dance school, among other that already have Wikipedia pages. It is one of the main actors of the Egyptian independent contemporary art scene, and probably the more consistent, with Townhouse gallery . It organizes and participates to many important cultural events here in Cairo, among them Downtown Contemporary Arts Festival D-CAF . Many important local and international choreographers and dancers have come in the center to teach, work, or rehearse, and most - if not all - the current Egyptian contemporary dancers are actually graduated from that school, or attended classes and workshops there.

I would like to know what entitled you to delete this page without warning, putting back in the unknown one of the most important independent cultural center in Egypt. I would like this page to come back, as I am sure that many people would benefit from it, and would be happy to know that this kind of organization exist in Egypt (specially that it's the only contemporary dance school in Africa and the Arab world, that alone should be sufficient to be mentioned in wikipedia...) Looking forward to your reply, Best, Taha Radi — Preceding unsigned comment added by Taha.Radi (talkcontribs) 16:59, 16 December 2016 (UTC)

  • It was not just my judgement: it was the opinion of CherylHew as well. I was entitled to delete it under the normal rules for speedy deletions. Kindly have the decency to wait until someone with no CoI thinks your centre is notable and writes about it here. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 19:09, 16 December 2016 (UTC)

So two people who don't know anything about it can decide that this is not notable?? Who told you I have a CoI there? It seems that you could have a CoI for deleting this article... — Preceding unsigned comment added by Taha.Radi (talkcontribs) 14:01, 17 December 2016 (UTC)

  • People who don't know anything about its subject are the best people to assess an article. It is the job of the creator of an article to provide evidence of its subject's notability. See this note to explain why I think you have a CoI. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 07:45, 18 December 2016 (UTC)

And how am I supposed to prove this if you delete the articles? I had almost 20 references, links to other people or organizations that already have pages on wikipedia. And I already explained why this organization IS notable - first contemporary dance school in Africa and the Arab world, one of the 3 major actors in the contemporary art scene in Egypt - whether you like it or not. Maybe you know better than me what is notable in this country or not.... And by the way this might be my first article in English, but I already created many articles in Arabic - but probably this is not notable enough for you. After all who cares about what's going on in the Arab world right? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Taha.Radi (talkcontribs) 09:29, 18 December 2016 (UTC)

Re-submitted. Will appreciate your support. Thanks. Taha.Radi (talk) 20:04, 28 December 2016 (UTC)Taha.Radi

"Bosphurus University" redirect

Hello. I'd like to know why my R3 Speedy Delete of the Bosphurus University redirect was declined. It's a clear misnomer - there's already a redirect for the correct spelling here - Bosphorus University. — Exemplo347 (talk) 10:47, 18 December 2016 (UTC)

  • But one of the purposes of a redirect is to provide for likely mis-spellings. I submit that this was a very likely mis-spelling. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 19:17, 18 December 2016 (UTC)

Season's Greetings

Spread the WikiLove; use {{subst:Season's Greetings1}} to send this message

Emergency

I'm sorry if this is in the wrong place but I don't know how else to contact you. I'm working with my students to teach them how to edit Wikiedia and you've deleted one of my student's articles before she even submitted it: Draft:Emerging Global Model (EGM) University. First, I don't understand why you would delete a draft article when you could just refuse to publish the article once it has been fully drafted and submitted. Second and much more important, could you please restore the article so I can review it and teach the student what she did wrong? Right now all I can do is say "I'm sorry that some Wikipedia person deleted your article" and give her 100%, since of course I can't mark her down on your say-so. Plus there's no learning experience in just having your work wiped clean. If you could restore the article ASAP that would be much appreciated, since I have to submit grades tonight. Thanks -- — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sbabones (talkcontribs) 16:49, 18 December 2016 (UTC)

Salvatore — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sbabones (talkcontribs) 16:45, 18 December 2016 (UTC)

  • "Don't know how to contact"! That is tragick. You as the tutor should be confidently telling your students how to contact another user. You should be telling them that a message must be at the bottom of the page with a == heading (there is a "new message" tab - or possibly just a + sign - at the top of the page to help you do that). It must contain a correct wikilink to the article about which you are talking and it must be signed with ~~~~ . Email addresses should never be given - why do we have an "email this user facility"?
As to your enquiry: read this. If you had actually bothered to look at the deletion reason, you probably would not have needed to contact me. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 19:17, 18 December 2016 (UTC)

I see the reason, but I don't understand why you would do this to a draft article instead of doing it at the time of submission for review. Why delete an article that hasn't been submitted for review? And obviously now I can't grade the student's work or penalize the student for plagiarism, since obviously I can't do so on your say-so. I also can't teach the student what she should have done differently. Many active Wikipedians encourage occasional Wikipedians to practice, develop their skills, and encourage new users to join. If you don't want the public to participate to the best of their ability, you should just put a "public not welcome" sign on the Wikipedia homepage. Salvatore — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sbabones (talkcontribs) 21:06, 18 December 2016 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) Although drafts are not in articlespace, they are still 'live'. For legal reasons, any copyrighted content is removed per our policy on copyright violations. My advice would be to give your student zero. -- Launchballer 21:43, 18 December 2016 (UTC)
  • You claim to have seen the reason but I would be reassured if you repeated it back to me as my "moan" requested. Surely you will agree that a copyvio is a copyvio wherever it appears? Two states of the article emailed. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 21:54, 18 December 2016 (UTC)
(talk page stalker) A little civility please, RHaworth. Sbabones is clearly not a wiki expert, but he is trying to help, and he asked you politely for help, and your tone (tragick, bothered, moan) is immature at best. It is totally possible to explain WP:BOTTOMPOSTING, WP:EMAIL and such in a constructive fashion, without being condescending. An admin should keep in mind things like WP:BITE, not to mention the cited WP:CIV. Please consider being polite next time. PS. User:Sbabones Since I believe you got your requested email, I will just aplogize on behalf of the Wikipedia community for the not-so-courteous tone you have been treated to. I hope you understand that Wikipedia does not have a professional customer service, instead what we often are are unpaid, overworked volunteers, who sometimes forget about little things like being civil. Please rest confident that many - I hope most - volunteers here appreciate that you are trying to teach your students about Wikipedia and have them contribute to this site. Once again, my sincerest apologies that your request was not treated in a polite fashion as it should be given our guidelines. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 02:18, 19 December 2016 (UTC)

Trout

Don't. (tJosve05a (c) 23:44, 18 December 2016 (UTC)

  • Josve05a, after six years of contributing you should have learnt of the WP:FAKEARTICLE rule. Also, where did I say it was a copyvio? Will you please accept this state of the article which is a copy of this state by Mr. Bones? If you insist on reverting to the third person version, I shall take the article to MfD which is a pointless activity. Please explain why you think the third person version was not a blatant fake article. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 01:09, 19 December 2016 (UTC)

While it may not mention the word "Wikipedia", it is still "backinfo" about a user and his qualifications of his edits etc. If he added "I skilled within these topics [current text] therefore I am editng about it on Wikipedia." THen it would be fine. You can just look at it and say "No", you must apply it as if it was a normal userpage. The user isn't using it as a fake article, but as a presentation of himself in third person. "A small and proportionate amount of suitable unrelated material" is allowed, and six lines of back story about a long-time editor is in my book compleatly reasonable. (tJosve05a (c) 01:18, 19 December 2016 (UTC)

Also, the copyvio comment was my own, since the text was found elsewhere online by me, and I just wanted to confirm that the user is the copyright owner of the text, not a comment towards you. (tJosve05a (c) 01:22, 19 December 2016 (UTC)

Also, not "rule", but "guideline". And as you most likely know WP:IAR. (tJosve05a (c) 01:25, 19 December 2016 (UTC)

Seconded trout, what's your problem here, RHaworth? Also, you realize this person alread has an article (Salvatore Babones)? Here you are helping to create another academic, who tried to contribute to Wikipedia, and now it is a good chance he will tell stories how he was rudely treated by some anonymous volunteers. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 02:32, 19 December 2016 (UTC)

Ueda

Hello RHaworth Thanks for checking the Ueda Mondonokami Shigeyasu (Sōko) page. The supposed copyright infringement is not valid. The text in the webpage Ueda Sōko - the man is my own. I also referenced it in the references. All this was noted in a note disputing the proposal for quick deletion. If I am still in the wrong, I would like to know why and what I can do to get the page up again. Best wishes Sōmu 23:52, 18 December 2016 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ikkyu pop a doodle doo (talkcontribs)

  • Your message must set some record for incredibly complicated links. So: got to the page on your website and add to the bottom a {{cc-by-sa-4.0}} licence notice same like what appears at the bottom of every Wikipedia page. Come here and repost your article on a simple title on Ueda Sōko (with a redirect at Ueda Mondonokami Shigeyasu) but make sure that you point out that it is a copy and that the source has a CC licence. Do this as an HTML comment in the text, in the edit summary and in the article's talk page. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 02:01, 19 December 2016 (UTC)

If you're still up, could you revert the most recent edit to MediaWiki:Recreate-moveddeleted-warn? It's caused a breakage in display of that page, for example at Draft:Emerging Global Model (EGM) University.--Launchballer 01:14, 19 December 2016 (UTC)

Pages in the MediaWiki namespace are protected.--Launchballer 01:22, 19 December 2016 (UTC)

expired PROD

Can you please verify and delete the page Ansh Bagri whose WP:PROD has expired? Coderzombie (talk) 12:32, 19 December 2016 (UTC)

Draft deleted

Hello Mr Haworth,

You deleted the draft page on European Expertise & Expert Institute. I was just working in order to improve references as asked by the reviewer. Note that it's only a translation from an article published on the French Wikipedia edition. This French article has been reviewed and accepted by the French wikipedia team after discussion. Could you recreate the draft article in order we can improve it if necessary. Thanks a lot for your help. MOR365 (talk) 17:11, 19 December 2016 (UTC)

MOR365 First, it's clear you have COI here so you cannot advertise your own company, exactly what RHaworth will say. Next, the sheer blatancy of Advertising was eminent in that Draft and those are never restored. SwisterTwister talk 18:32, 21 December 2016 (UTC)

SwisterTwister I understand what you say but I don't understand how I can have COI about a non-profit association. It's not a company and I'm not an employee nor a shareholder. — MOR365 (talk) 13:06, 22 December 2016 (UTC)

Code for All was deleted

Hi, You recently deleted a new article that I created called Code for All because it seemed like "unambiguous advertising" that "promotes a company, product, group, service or person." However, I simply wrote it based on an existing article called Code for America. Code for America is a branch of Code for All, and I believe it should not be deleted. I think I at least deserve a clear reason as to why it seemed like unambiguous advertising and how I could improve it. Here is the link to the deleted article: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Jinnayang#Speedy_deletion_nomination_of_Code_for_AllJinnayang (talk) 02:04, 20 December 2016 (UTC)

(talk page watcher) Hi Jinnayang. I see you have gone and re-created the article at Code for All before RHaworth could respond. If you're going simply recreate the article within five minutes of asking why it was deleted, then there's really no point in asking in the first place, is there? Basically, what you've written reads like a promotional piece for the organization and you have provided no sources to multiple independent reliable sources which shows that the company has received the significant coverage required by Wikipedia:Notability (organizations and companies). The purpose of Wikipedia is not to promote an organization or to tell the world about all the great things it might be doing; Wikipedia is not interested in what the organization has to say about itself, but rather what independent reliable sources have to say about it. If the organization has yet to receive significant coverage in reliable sources, then maybe it's too soon for a Wikipedia article to be written about it. As you can see, your recreation has already been tagged with various templates indicating this and unless you work on fixing these issues, the article is likely to be delete once again. Also, if you have any connection at all to this organization, please read Wikipedia:Plain and simple conflict of interest guide for reference. -- Marchjuly (talk) 02:46, 20 December 2016 (UTC)
  • Jinnayang, "here is the link to the deleted article" - no it isn't! And why are you using external link format? The declaration on your user page and my simplistick test say that you do not have a CoI. But if you make no attempt to provide independent evidence of notability, you must expect your piece to be deleted. Try again via AfC. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 01:35, 23 December 2016 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

The Original Barnstar
I think your criteria for deleting particular pages more leans towards that which are of the subject of races and/or religions you are not particularly fond of....?????? Gozer1969 (talk) 14:13, 20 December 2016 (UTC)
  • A clear case of the "it cannot possibly be me" syndrome. You say: "obviously my article is fine - it must be bias on the part of" the two users who have nominated the article for deletion and the two admins who have deleted three attempts at creating it. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 02:10, 23 December 2016 (UTC)

List of Shortland Street characters (2016)

Hi RHaworth, I was wondering why in particular List of Shortland Street characters (2016) was deleted, citing that it duplicates an existing topic Current Shortland Street Characters. It does not, as that page lists current cast members whereas the other lists new characters introduced in 2016. A page exists for each previous year (List of Shortland Street Characters 1992-2015), so I'm not sure why the 2016 page has been deleted. I was advised by another user to submit a DRV, but read I should consult the member who had the page deleted, to see if it could be resolved. — Michaeljefford (talk) 18:56, 20 December 2016 (UTC)

  • Take it to DRV by all means or simply re-submit via AfC. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 02:10, 23 December 2016 (UTC)

Merry Merry

Season's Greetings, RHaworth!
At this wonderful time of year, I would like to give season’s greetings to all the fellow Wikipedians I have interacted with in the past! May you have a wonderful holiday season! MarnetteD|Talk 19:11, 20 December 2016 (UTC)

Deleted article

Hello, I recently created a page as a school assignment that was taken down a few days after it was created. My professor didn't get to see and grade it and I don't have a copy saved. I was wondering if I would be able to get a copy of the article to submit to my professor. The page that was taken down was nymphs in mythology and the old link for it was nymph in mythology. — Harisprasovic (talk) 01:09, 22 December 2016 (UTC)

  • Please tell your professor from me that they should not be encouraging their students to create forks. Then read this. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 02:10, 23 December 2016 (UTC)

plz make draft Mrs_Globe_Australia_2016

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Mrs Globe Australia 2016. I will merge this page with Mrs Globe Australia. Can you make this a draft. — (Australianblackbelt (talk) 07:17, 22 December 2016 (UTC))

  • Please learn to create wikilinks. Don't be ridiculous: you do not merge an AfD discussion into a mainspace article! Please tell me what you want me to do that requires admin rights. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 02:10, 23 December 2016 (UTC)

Ratheesh R Menon

Ratheesh R Menon page was not a promotion, he a the most popular blogger in Kerala. U deleted.Abhilashsnair (talk) 01:34, 23 December 2016 (UTC)

It was blatant advertising and as such shall not be restored simply because our policies were violated (or by a simple "he's a popular blogger in Kerala"), this is not Facebook. SwisterTwister talk 05:37, 24 December 2016 (UTC)

Merry Christmas

CAPTAIN RAJU () 23:41, 23 December 2016 (UTC)

Will you salt this Firefox focus page that's been created 3 times in one day? I don't know if there's a proper place to request this, but I noticed that you already deleted it twice. — Natureium (talk) 03:15, 25 December 2016 (UTC)

KEEL Technology deleted

Can you explain why you chose to delete "KEEL Technology"? The topic was retrieved when I was able to provide external references. Thank you, Tmk45112 (talk) 13:39, 26 December 2016 (UTC)

  • Kindly have the decency to wait until someone who a) knows how to create links and b) has no CoI thinks your technology is notable and writes about it here. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 15:09, 27 December 2016 (UTC)

My RedVoice, LLC user page deletion

I'm writing to see if you can restore my user page RedVoice, LLC page. The article that I had written was deleted, but the editor who did the deletion placed the page on my user talk page so that it could be edited, enhanced, and added in the future. As I went today to access it, I found that you had deleted it. However this is a user page, not a Wikipedia page, and I had been told to keep it there by Wikipedia's editors, which I had done. Thank you for your time. Bigddan11 (talk) 21:47, 26 December 2016 (UTC)

Note: User's Draft is now at User:Bigddan11/RedVoice, LLC. SwisterTwister talk 02:53, 27 December 2016 (UTC)
  • Please learn to provide links when you talk about pages. You may blame the deletion on Deb who userfied the page but did not remove the speedy tag. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 15:09, 27 December 2016 (UTC)
Sorry. I was expecting the user to do that. Deb (talk) 16:08, 27 December 2016 (UTC)
  • Deb, very poor expectation: a) you cannot assume that the user will come back promptly to remove it and b) the speedy tag says "do not remove this notice from pages that you have created yourself"! — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 19:01, 29 December 2016 (UTC)
Yes, that's true. But I did want the onus to be on him/her to do the work on it in user space. Deb (talk) 22:37, 29 December 2016 (UTC)

Notorious C.H.R.I.S

I have plenty of more sources if you are willing to see?Avairyz (talk) 06:53, 27 December 2016 (UTC)

  • Kindly have the decency to wait until someone with no CoI thinks you are sufficiently notorious and writes about you here. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 15:09, 27 December 2016 (UTC)

Deletion of "Fab Lab Connect" Wiki Draft

Dear RHaworth, I am writing to you regarding the draft wikipedia page for Fab Lab Connect that you recently deleted (at 12:19 on 14 December, 2016). The reason cited for its deletion was "unambiguous advertising or promotion." I wanted to know how the page appeared to be unambiguous promoting. It's my first attempt at a post as a Wikipedia editor so I want to learn what may have gone wrong!

The first editor, "Sandgem Addict," to review my page had indicated that I needed to include more reliable sources in order for the page to be approved; in response to this suggestion I found additional external sources such as books and newspaper articles. Should I have included other sorts of sources? I also want to stress that Fab Lab Connect is a non-profit organization that specializes in the education sector.

Please let me know what you think, as I would value your feedback, and would love to make the appropriate edits so that the page will be eventually posted. — Itsmeoscar (talk) 18:14, 27 December 2016 (UTC) Itsmeoscar

Looking in, the page at Draft:Fab Lab Connect was clear advertising complete with something in their own commercial advertisements and it's safe to say this is not the place for such company-hosted advertising. Our policies explicitly state that, regardless of needing to add other sources, any advertising materials can be removed on sight. — SwisterTwister talk 04:44, 28 December 2016 (UTC)

Great, thank you very much for your feedback. Would it be possible to have the draft restored so that I can go about making the appropriate changes and cut out all advertising materials? Thank you! Itsmeoscar (talk) 19:24, 3 January 2017 (UTC)Itsmeoscar

Shree laxmiNarayan Secondary School

I alredy inform & inprove the page bt you delete it. There is a notish for check the page and delete bt...... Check & reviewq it plz. Restore it , I will make it. good page........... Otherwise thanks For Delete. — Jhapadon (talk) 06:52, 28 December 2016 (UTC)

I think i inprove it..... before you delete this page ...... If Im right plz Try to restore it ................. Shree laxmiNarayan Secondary School(2024). Aashish koirala, A student of Shree laxmiNarayan Secondary School(2024) Dharampur 8 jhapa NepalJhapadon (talk) 07:03, 28 December 2016 (UTC)

  • I am sorry but your article was way below what is an acceptable standard of English. What on earth does "it will be establish on 2024" mean? Restored to Draft:Shree Laxmi Narayan Secondary School. Please study other school articles and find someone to help you with the English. Do not even think about moving it to mainspace until it has been independently reviewed and accepted. Also, get some better photos with sensible file sizes - the neppalling mess shown here does not need to be 2.45m bytes! — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 19:01, 29 December 2016 (UTC)

Hello, I just wanted to let you know that I created the article you deleted in 2013. Hitcher vs. Candyman (talk) 06:13, 29 December 2016 (UTC)

FYI

[2] --JustBerry (talk) 18:31, 29 December 2016 (UTC)

Las Vegas

I am going to recreate category:Live albums recorded in the Las Vegas Valley that you deleted in 2013 for being empty. It won't be empty after today. — Jmc76 (talk) 18:52, 30 December 2016 (UTC)

  • Learn to provide a link when you talk about any page. Gosh, what a quick re-population of the cat. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 12:54, 31 December 2016 (UTC)

European Society for Artificial Organs

Dear RHaworth, My name is Mihaela Rusu and I've created the page of draft:The European Society for Artificial Organs (ESAO), which apparently has been deleted. I am in the pioneer phase of creating and posting files in the Wikipedia. Therefore, I would be very grateful to have your kind support to help me re-loading and posting back the web-page. Worthy to be mentioned that the ESAO webpage is profiled in similar way as the European Renal Association – European Dialysis and Transplant Association. Accordingly, I would, thus expect that the The European Society for Artificial Organs will soon be posted on Wikipedia. Looking forward to your appreciation and kind support for my pioneer work. Best regards, Mrusu (talk) 19:10, 30 December 2016 (UTC) Mihaela

  • Please learn: a) how to create wikilinks and b) within the text of an article you only embolden the title once not every time you use it. True, I deleted this page. But what is the most recent operation I did to that title? — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 12:54, 31 December 2016 (UTC)

Hello, RHaworth I could further enhance my expertise to create weblinks properly as you have suggested, once I will have reloaded back my draft page. So, I am kindly asking you to reload the ESAO page as soon as possible to be properly fix it. Or should I re-create the ESAO web page using a new edit source? — Mrusu (talk) 19:32, 3 January 2017 (UTC) Mihaela

  • Mrusu, you found your draft within 25 minutes of leaving the above message so why do you need further help from me? — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 19:22, 4 January 2017 (UTC)

Your draft article, Draft:Blockchain Alliance

Hello, RHaworth. It has been over six months since you last edited your Articles for Creation draft article submission, "Blockchain Alliance".

In accordance with our policy that Articles for Creation is not for the indefinite hosting of material deemed unsuitable for the encyclopedia mainspace, the draft has been nominated for deletion. If you plan on working on it further, or editing it to address the issues raised if it was declined, simply edit the submission and remove the {{db-afc}} or {{db-g13}} code.

If your submission has already been deleted by the time you get there, and you wish to retrieve it, you can request its undeletion by following the instructions at this link. An administrator will, in most cases, restore the submission so you can continue to work on it.

Thanks for your submission to Wikipedia, and happy editing. AntiCompositeNumber (Leave a message) 03:39, 2 January 2017 (UTC)

Happy New Year, RHaworth!

   Send New Year cheer by adding {{subst:Happy New Year fireworks}} to user talk pages.

Hello. I see that you deleted West London Waste Authority in July 2016 under the A7 criteria. I'd like to have a go at rewriting it. Would you mind restoring it to my sandbox (it could be added as a new section)? Thank you, and happy new year. Cloudbound (talk) 20:30, 2 January 2017 (UTC)

You're right, I have found it. Thank you. Cloudbound (talk) 18:14, 3 January 2017 (UTC)

  • Cloudbound, you created the mainspace version as a new article and then requested deletion of the draft. This was wrong because it threw away the information about previous editors (we call it attribution). OK, not important in this case but the principle needs to be learnt. Situation now rectified. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 19:22, 4 January 2017 (UTC)

Not strictly true, hence why I did that. There was so little in the mainspace version that you restored that I started my own from scratch. The page you have deleted is exactly as it was when you restored it. Cloudbound (talk) 19:29, 4 January 2017 (UTC)

Hi RHaworth

You recently deleted a RFD page with no nominations on it, it was recently undeleted per the results of an RFC. Could you revert the deletion of the page. (Link to the AN request in the subject header). — Amortias (T)(C) 21:00, 2 January 2017 (UTC)

Valid restore request

Please restore Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2011 December 12 again. At Wikipedia talk:Redirects for discussion#RfC on empty log pages, consensus was to restore these pages with no nominations on them. עוד מישהו Od Mishehu 21:36, 2 January 2017 (UTC)

Mapmechanics

Hi, I was trying to create a page for Mapmechanics and it was deleted after a few hours. I had only just started and am not sure what to do now. the reason given was that it was not "notable", but given that I had only just started the page, I had not enough of a chance to put in the information to show that it is notable. what should I do? Thanks, Chris — Preceding unsigned comment added by Cdgillie (talkcontribs) 13:02, 3 January 2017 (UTC)

  • Kindly have the decency to wait until someone with no CoI thinks your company is notable and writes about it here. If you really insist on trying to force an article in, raise the matter at DRV. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 13:08, 3 January 2017 (UTC)
  • Stalking this talk page @Cdgillie: You were given advice on the talk page of the article in question, that stated you should copy the article to your Sandbox and continue to work on it there. I "pinged" you in the comment, exactly like I have in this comment, and you chose not to reply. I did warn you that the article was eligible for Speedy Deletion and that the deletion would happen without warning. I'm not sure what else can be said to you. Exemplo347 (talk) 13:40, 3 January 2017 (UTC)

I don't know about pinging, what is that? also whan I try to reply here unless I do it v quickly my edits get lost as the page is already out of date. — Cdgillie (talk) 14:07, 3 January 2017 (UTC)

I keep trying to use the sandbox but even that is getting deleted. — Cdgillie (talk) 14:07, 3 January 2017 (UTC)

Deletion review for Draft:NUUP

An editor has asked for a deletion review of Draft:NUUP. Because you closed the deletion discussion for this page, speedily deleted it, or otherwise were interested in the page, you might want to participate in the deletion review. Administrator deleted (speedy delete) the page without seeing the talk page information. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Manivannan184 (talkcontribs)

Mario Lino

Page Deleted: Hello Dear RHaworth, my name is Mario I am a former journalist and a co-founder of a new mobile media platform called FreeCalls4U. I am new to editing in Wikipedia, something in which I understand you are an expert in. I was trying to create a page - and I found out that there was none - for FreeCalls4U. Then, it was deleted. I know that Wikipedia is not supposed to be a commercial-oriented display for companies. Yet, being a former journalist myself - and journalists need to clearly separate public info from advertising I can also understand there are grey areas between public awareness and advertising a brand. So why would this case deserve 1 minute of your attention? Because this is something new and unique. We're not doing just another soda, changing the colour and giving it a catchy name. We - myself and my partner - have created the first platform of its kind in Africa: a person watches an advert and gets rewarded directly by engaging. With no charge whatsoever to the user. That's why it's called FreeCalls4U. A bit obvious, as it should.

Looking at the Coca Cola examples or beers, they are also commercial brands, and so is Kit Kat. I know you are trying to protect Wikipedia from having litter, and avoiding creating exceptions that would open the Pandora box. But there is no competitor to this, at the moment, in the world. Not that we know of. You can - and if you don't mind me saying, should - research to check if what I am saying is true. I believe you consider yourself a Guardian of Wiki, which is good. But you should not prevent people from having access to information on new/distinctive ideas/concepts/solutions. But I could be wrong. Thank you for your time, Mario Lino — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mari0linux (talkcontribs)

(talk page stalker) Don't create articles about your own business - it will end in tears. Try Facebook or Linkedin. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 13:53, 3 January 2017 (UTC)
  • Saves me having to intone my "kindly" mantra. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 19:22, 4 January 2017 (UTC)

Deletion Abstraction Games

Could you please explain to me why the Abstraction Games page was deleted so fast? I've added all kinds of nonbiased references, and this company is linked to in the following existing wiki articles as game developer;

Hotline Miami Hotline Miami 2: Wrong Number Double Dragon Neon Bloodrayne: Betrayal Kick and Fennick Potpourrii

I've seen game developers with much less of a track record with articles on this site, so this developer is at least as noteworthy. Also, this company together with Studio Wildcard were the first to put a game on early access on the PS4 Article about early access on PS4 Thanks in advance, TimbiWan (talk) 15:39, 3 January 2017 (UTC)

  • Kindly have the decency to wait until someone with COI thinks your company is notable and write about it here. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 19:22, 4 January 2017 (UTC)

Deletion: Teacher Educator

Hi. I see that there was a potential copyright infringement in one section of my draft article. In order that I can re-work it to avoid the infringement, please can you restore it in a place where I can rework it? Thanks. Holdspa (talk) 08:23, 4 January 2017 (UTC)

Thanks! Holdspa (talk) 13:47, 5 January 2017 (UTC)

I have updated my e-mail address and look forward to your mail. — Holdspa (talk) 13:52, 5 January 2017 (UTC)

YouTube

You deleted List of YouTube Channels with 1 Million Subscribers or More. Without warning because some NPpatroller marked it for speedy deletion. I contested it, and explained why I created the article, but got no response. And I can't provide a link to it, because IT IS DELETED. If there is no point in contesting and discussion, how many times to I have to make an article before it is accepted? I don't understand. — L3X1 (talk) 12:44, 4 January 2017 (UTC)

  • If you really must, try again in draft space but bear in mind that it will stand no chance of success until the majority of the entries are blue wikilinks and all entries are references. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 19:22, 4 January 2017 (UTC)

Thanks for the advice, however, this is the same problem we have been having with all YT related Wiki articles. Most of the entries would just be stubs saying "has X subs, founded in Y, and produces Z". The other YouTube related articles on Wikipedia don't do this. Not notable YTers, not Top 50. This is why I put forth the List as a cure-all. I'll continue to talk about it with the other people on the [[3]] and maybe we can work something out. Thanks for your time, L3X1 (talk) 22:04, 4 January 2017 (UTC)

  • Your admission that most of them would be stubs is essentially an admission that this information is trivia which has no place on Wikipedia. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 19:59, 5 January 2017 (UTC)

Cassidey

Hi! Can you restore the Cassidey page deleted after this discussion? She is now inducted into the AVN Hall of Fame and thus qualifies per WP:PORNBIO. — Holanthony (talk) 22:41, 4 January 2017 (UTC)

  • You need to learn how to create links. I must admit that the deletion reason seemed pretty spurious from one point of view. The person who applied the tag suggested DRV and I suggest you go that way. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 19:59, 5 January 2017 (UTC)

Орден для вас!

Орден за заслуги
Hi, Can you please assist me in editing the Virtual cemetery page so that it is revised and not deleted? It is a unique product. I can not understand why information about supermarkets is not advertising, and information about unique in its capabilities of the virtual site of the cemetery - is an advertisement. At this time, I am corresponding with the Department of Veterans and NASA for the free placement of American heroes on this site.

Please help me to correct my mistakes, so that the article is not perceived as advertising. We would like to know how to contest this deletion and move forward with the creation of our page in order to be an informational tool for others. Have a great day! Монетка, Рамстор , Виктория. — Memoryal33454567 (talk) 16:11, 6 January 2017 (UTC)

  • I have no knowledge of Russian but at least I can create proper links to the Russian Wikipedia instead of the horrors that you provided. Виртуальное кладбище was deleted for the simple reason that it was in Russian. I deleted User:Memoryal33454567 because it was blatant misuse of a user page. I could also have deleted it for hopelessly spammy language and for being a copyvio from this page.
Kindly have the decency to wait until someone with no COI| thinks your website is notable and writes about it here. I must be getting soft because I will mention the AfC process. Be aware that the CWGC already have a website called virtual cemetery which is probably an order of magnitude more notable than yours. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 20:19, 6 January 2017 (UTC)

1) I'm sorry for being placed on the side of the English language Russian text. Sorry.

2) I beg to return my Russian text of the article by e-mail or in any other way. Thank you.

3) You specified site http://cwgc-virtual-cemetery.org/virtual-cemetery/ makes it very important and need to deal with. I and most of the people on our planet are grateful to them for that. But: «We take care of cemeteries and memorials at 23,000 sites in 154 countries». Their website contains information about the cemeteries. They are not virtual cemetery in pure form. But the site is memorylight.net contains the virtual memory page of the people and the Hall of Fame of all mankind. It has a virtual cemetery in pure form. I certainly do not want to persuade you, you are entitled to your own opinion. I hope you will have time to carefully study this issue and differences between the two sites, so that the truth has been established. Once again I apologize for the mistake with the wrong language and ask me to return the text of the article. Sincerely, Memoryal33454567 (talk) 22:30, 6 January 2017 (UTC)

  • Amazing! Despite being given a prettily piped link to the CWGC website, you repeat it back to me as naked URL. Text emailed. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 12:46, 7 January 2017 (UTC)

He's created the page yet again. I think that is the fourth time... previous deletions here. Should he be allowed to continue? Regards, Eagleash (talk) 14:11, 8 January 2017 (UTC)

He's now added the content (or most of it) to his talkpage, here with a, albeit minor, dig at you at the foot of the page. Eagleash (talk) 14:57, 8 January 2017 (UTC)

deleted user page

Why was my private work page User:Toploftical/Workpage 7 deleted? It is not an article.. I use this page for draft articles and blank it in between uses. It is a sandbox type of page, used for my private work only. Please replace it. -- Toploftical (talk) 16:45, 8 January 2017 (UTC)

I see that you have restored the page. Thank you. I have used User draft pages for a long time and never ran into this problem before. Does this mean that ALL of my USER pages are in danger of speedy deletion unless I put the Userspacedraft flag on them? Is this some new WP policy? In any case, this kind of deletion is very very unhelpful. I think the policy should be to never touch pages that begin User:so and so/. Why are other editors (or bots) even looking at such pages!? What happened to a modicum of privacy? You may respond here or on my talk page.

In case it needs to be said, I have no objection to editors flagging or deleting pages when a USER has abused the privilege of creating private work pages. But I have certainly not done that.--Toploftical (talk) 17:47, 8 January 2017 (UTC)

  • Stop fussing. As you say, you have never had this problem before, It was a case of Cyrus noto3at bulaga (talk · contribs) being a bit too keen. But in any case, if all the contents was drafts that you no longer need, why the fuss? What was to prevent you recreating the page next time you needed it? But it might be a good idea to replace a draft page with {{userspacedraft}} rather than completely blanking it. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 16:45, 9 January 2017 (UTC)

If everybody minded their own business, the world would go round a deal faster than it does.

–The Duchess in Alice in Wonderland

I was "fussing" because I was worried about the following: If a random editor can delete my private user page for being blank, he might delete such a page for being disorganized or lacking citations. Why are you and other users looking at my private pages in any case? I find this totally inappropriate. It is also occasionally the case that the previous version of a private work page might contain text that I later need to recover. Would you walk into somebody's private office and throw away all the scratch paper lying on their desk? (Should the janitor remove all the blackboards from my office just because I cleaned them?) If this is standard WP policy, I strongly object to it. BTW, I never got an answer from you or Cyrus noto3at bulaga (talk · contribs) as to whether or not "ALL of my PRIVATE USER pages are in danger of speedy deletion".--Toploftical (talk) 18:38, 9 January 2017 (UTC)

BizNis Africa new page deletion

Hi RHaworth, you recently flagged Draft:Biznis Africa that created and nominated it for deletion. I added the company logo, about the company and reference links to the article, I also notice that multiple articles on wiki use the BizNis Africa website and reference to their wiki pages. Please advise what was wrong with the article that made you see it as advertisement. Thank you — Preceding unsigned comment added by Zwely (talkcontribs) 14:55, 9 January 2017 (UTC)

  • I did not nominate it for deletion - I deleted it. Hopelessly spammy language. No attempt to follow Wikipedia article layout. But kindly have the decency to wait until someone with no COI thinks your company is notable and writes about it here. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 16:36, 9 January 2017 (UTC)

Please provide us a copy of the last version so that we can upload it somewhere else. (Definitely not on Wikipedia). — Preceding unsigned comment added by Patwardhankishor (talkcontribs) 15:28, 9 January 2017 (UTC)

  • Thanks. I have read it and I have now left my email address. Please mail me the last version of our article.

The Godfather Part IV

What's the harm in having The Godfather Part IV as a redirect to The_Godfather_(film_series)#Fourth_installment? Obviously there shouldn't be an article, but a redirect seems sensible to me, as the info is on the Wiki. -- Forty.4 (talk) 18:45, 9 January 2017 (UTC)

Magna-Power Electronics

Dear Mr. Haworth,

I would like to kindly request that you consider unprotecting Magna-Power_Electronics, to allow the page to be created and edited. Thank you for your consideration. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Josephadams (talkcontribs) 19:39, 9 January 2017 (UTC)

Quranic Botanic Garden

Dear RHaworth, I am surprised to see my article was deleted and removed on December 14, 2016. Can you please restore the draft so I can edit and re-sumbit it for approval. Thanks.

Category for Calthemite?

Hi R Haworth,

I am trying to understand how Wikipedia works and am puzzled why you have deleted the request to create a category for "calthemites" when they are not "Speleothems".? The link to your deletion is Category_talk:Calthemites

I haven't had any feedback regarding reasoning for the deletion, and it would really help me learn from your decision.

Instead of just dismissing this with a deletion, would it better to change the category of "Speleothems" to "Speleothems and Calthemites" to at least allow "Concrete Degradation" to be included as a searchable item linked in the subgroups.

Much appreciate your thoughts and possible solution. Regards Newcaves (talk) 09:34, 10 January 2017 (UTC)