Talk:Dr Disrespect

Name of article

An IP editor recently brought up the point that the aforementioned Youtuber's channel name is "DrDisRespect". I think we should we make a new page, and move the article there under that correct name, and turn this page into a redirect? CosmicJacuzzi (talk) 00:26, 18 September 2021 (UTC)

Done. CosmicJacuzzi (talk) 00:30, 18 September 2021 (UTC)

Requested move 23 September 2021

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: not moved (closed by non-admin page mover) -- Calidum 17:16, 9 October 2021 (UTC)

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Dr Disrespect → DrDisRespect – The basis for my suggestion of this move is the discussion that took place above on the talk page here[1]. As well as the fact that one of the it fits on of criteria for article titles, namely precision. The discussion fell to the way side, and it was never done. Thank you for your time, and consideration. CosmicJacuzzi (talk) 15:02, 23 September 2021 (UTC) — Relisting. Adumbrativus (talk) 04:35, 2 October 2021 (UTC)

• Comment: Do reliable sources spell it as one word or two? O.N.R. ^(talk) 23:09, 23 September 2021 (UTC)
• Oppose. Looking at all the sources in the article, it seems they are split, with some using Dr Disrespect and others using the name with no space. Google results in many more hits on the present title than for the proposed name. So it appears that many more sources exist that use the present title when they refer to the video-game streamer. Also seen are a few like "Dr. Disrespect" with a period after "Dr", but not nearly as many as for this article's title without the period. P.I. Ellsworth - ed. ^put'r there 07:38, 1 October 2021 (UTC)
• Oppose, with similar reasoning to Paine Ellsworth. I note that his channel description is "The Official Dr Disrespect YouTube Channel" and that his most live videos use the spaced styling. So does his merch site. Firefangledfeathers (talk) 05:33, 2 October 2021 (UTC)
• Support as per Wikipedia:Manual_of_Style/Biography#Initials — Preceding unsigned comment added by APPU (talk • contribs) 15:31, 2 October 2021 (UTC)
  • Please explain how that guideline applies in this situation? P.I. Ellsworth - ed. ^put'r there 00:03, 3 October 2021 (UTC)

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

Adding Aim Assist under Controversy

On September 21 2021 DrDisrespect tweeted out 'Without your aim assist, you ain't nothing.'[44] This led to widespread disagreement between mouse and keyboard and controller players and prompted backlash from players like FaZe Pamaj, Nadeshot, Nickmercs, and many others. Some claimed the Doc was merely impression farming while others challenged him to try controller himself since it is more accessible.[45] (https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Dr_Disrespect&oldid=1048417064)

Wanted to add in the above portion ^^^ due to all the attention and discussion this has generated recently. Also has been a key component of the Doc's persona over the last couple of years at least since the PUBG days. Got rejected by user:IVORK for not being noteworthy enough yet. Figured i'd open things up for dicsussion here Warzone14 (talk) 21:44, 6 October 2021 (UTC)

• • if nobody responds to this comment within a week I will add it back in Warzone14 (talk) 04:41, 12 October 2021 (UTC)

Seems a short-term Twitter spat. It doesn't meet notability standards. One might say he criticises aim assist users as part of his online persona, but I don't think the controversy itself is worthy of inclusion. Solipsism 101 (talk) 19:32, 22 October 2021 (UTC)

Merger proposal for Draft:Midnight Society (game studio)

I propose that Draft:Midnight Society (game studio) should be merged into this article. I have included many reliable sources, as well as a lot of information that won't make this article obsessively too long with text. MikeTimesONE 13:45, 18 April 2022 (UTC)

Go for it. Do note that the draft contains a lot of unimportant fluffy details surrounding the core events, long quotes and uncited portions; these will need to be addressed following or during merging. Pabsoluterince (talk) 01:28, 19 April 2022 (UTC)

 Done GenQuest ^"scribble" 04:28, 15 July 2022 (UTC)

Potential update on the Permanent ban from Twitch section

On June 21st, a former Twitch employee, Cody Conners, came forward with allegations against DrDisrespect in an X (Twitter) post. According to Crunchbase, Cody Conners worked for Twitch as an "Account Director [of] Strategic Partnerships"

While DrDisrespect isn't explicitly named in the post, several journalists and industry insiders have come forward to corroborate that these allegations are against DrDisrespect.

• Slasher, who originally implied he knew of the real reason of his ban in 2020, tweeted this.

• djWheat, who served as the Director of Twitch Studios and Director of Creator Development when DrDisrespect was suspended, acknowledges Slasher's role in this story in a post.

• Washington Post report Nathan Grayson tweets that he's heard this story many times from "secondhand sources"

• DrDisrespect himself seemingly confirms that the post is about his suspension in a reply to Jake Lucky. (archived)

So far, everything regarding these allegations has come from a handful of X/Twitter posts but gaming and esports-related news outlets have already picked up on the story. [2][3][4][5][6][7]

I think it's too early to add anything to the article but I would love to know your thoughts. quidama _talk 09:49, 22 June 2024 (UTC)

With the subject responding to the allegations and this response being picked up by what appear to be reliable sources (correct me if I'm wrong, I'm not a regular consumer of gaming/esports journalism outside of iRacing),[8][9][10] I see no reason not to include a small blurb in the appropriate existing section. I would agree that there is no need to expand further at this time, or give it its own section at all (as one of the reverted additions tried to do), as it's impossible to tell now how much WP:WEIGHT this will have in the grand scheme of things. ― "Ghost of Dan Gurney" (talk)  12:48, 22 June 2024 (UTC)

So the burden for proof on wikipedia these days is "I heard that someone I know said"? 2603:8001:8601:8445:9424:60D4:6D70:3C97 (talk) 03:56, 23 June 2024 (UTC)

Is it relevant to note that the source of these accusations has floated disclosing knowledge about about the situation in the past for personal financial gain?

https://twitter.com/evoli/status/1679536544863113217 2603:8001:8601:8445:D10C:8891:35D6:5936 (talk) 00:53, 24 June 2024 (UTC)

No, and especially not when the only source is ex-Twitter. ― "Ghost of Dan Gurney" (talk)  04:17, 24 June 2024 (UTC)

The original source for these allegations is the same twitter account I linked, Cody Conners. This person is the progenitor of all claims relevant to this topic in media stories related to this story. Outside of this persons claims you have a few people on twitter claiming that they have known about this since 2020, without adding any more details or evidence. Any media story connected to this either references this twitter or account or citing anonymous sources that have corroborated the allegations of claims made by this twitter account. 2603:8001:8601:8445:D10C:8891:35D6:5936 (talk) 05:20, 24 June 2024 (UTC)

The subject of the article directly addressed the allegations in question and this was picked up by reliable, secondary sources, which is why it is included in the article. Your complaint is wholly irrelevant in light of that unless you can provide reliable, secondary sources. ― "Ghost of Dan Gurney" (talk)  05:45, 24 June 2024 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 24 June 2024

At footnote "60", the date is stated as 26th of June, when the correct date in reference to the article is the 24th of June. Cocolina3 (talk) 21:56, 24 June 2024 (UTC)

 Done. 〜 Askarion ✉ 15:30, 26 June 2024 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 25 June 2024

He was just dropped by Turtle Beach last night, his collection is no longer available and redirects to the home page: www.turtlebeach.com/collections/dr-disrespect, he was also removed from their influencers page: https://www.turtlebeach.com/pages/influencers NonUrBiz213141 (talk) 09:18, 25 June 2024 (UTC)

 Done ---- Patar knight - ^chat/_{contributions} 17:23, 25 June 2024 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 27 June 2024

Change "sexting a minor" to "inappropriately texting".

I fully agree he did wrong, but there's no evidence to suggest 'sexting', going that far, that's speculation. Kedzie02 (talk) 23:56, 27 June 2024 (UTC)

 Not done: The initial tweet https://x.com/evoli/status/1804309358106546676 specifically mentions "sexting a minor", that was the allegation being addressed by everyone else. Sohom (talk) 01:06, 28 June 2024 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit requests

About one of the paragraphs on his Twitch ban, where there's a quote from a live stream by him in April calling Twitch "slithery disgusting purple snakes" and lamenting his lost sponsorships because of his ban. Suggestion that the quote be shortened to: "Dr Disrespect called Twitch 'slithery disgusting purple snakes' and criticized losing 'a lot of big deals, a lot of sponsorships; sh*t we had Nike, we were talking to Oakley; I can bring up Oakley prototypes right here.'" 2601:47:100:AC40:D27A:8A44:674F:703C (talk) 19:28, 28 June 2024 (UTC)

Also should be noted that his YT channel was kicked off the Partner Program and demonetized. [11] 2601:47:100:AC40:D27A:8A44:674F:703C (talk) 19:46, 28 June 2024 (UTC)

 Done I trimmed the Twitch paragraph and added the YouTube bit. Prefall 17:14, 29 June 2024 (UTC)

Probably should note that the sentence on Discord removing him from their Partnership Program reads: That same day, Discord removed Dr Disrespect from their partnership program, citing violations of its Code of Conduct. The sentence on YouTube doing the same thing that I requested above reads: The next day, YouTube suspended Dr Disrespect from its partner program and demonetized his channel. I think in the latter sentence, it should be "their partner program" instead; and in the former, "their Code of Conduct"? 2601:47:100:AC40:278A:721B:B9DB:7B62 (talk) 13:36, 30 June 2024 (UTC)

Another sentence: Shortly afterward, Midnight Society, the gaming studio co-founded by Dr Disrespect, released a statement noting that after speaking with parties involved, it would be terminating its relationship with Dr Disrespect effective immediately. Try "shortly afterwards" and "terminating their relationship" instead. And this under other ventures: Dr Disrespect featured in multiple of the team's social media posts between 2022 and 2023. Should be cleared up to be that he "featured in several social media posts from the team during the 2022 and 2023 NFL seasons". 2601:47:100:AC40:C80C:D8B3:6B78:BAC0 (talk) 14:48, 30 June 2024 (UTC)

AND here in early career: [...] as the community manager of Sledgehammer Games. The present reference accompanying it, including archived, does not lead to that link and redirects to blog.activision.com. Try this reference directly from Sledgehammer Games' blog instead that announced he was a community manager: [12] Archived: [13] 2601:47:100:AC40:9905:1A19:EE45:F264 (talk) 16:16, 30 June 2024 (UTC)

And I just noticed a misspelling: YouTube did not have enough access to evidence that would justify a terms a service violation - It's "terms of service" not "terms a service". Guess I should have pinged @Credema, Internetyev, J36miles, Kicking222, Larcombe, Pbrks, Patar knight, TheNuggeteer, and Prefall: like so. 2601:47:100:AC40:A9FE:57CF:11E5:E080 (talk) 19:35, 30 June 2024 (UTC)

I'll end this list with a "link equal to linktext" bug found with Halo: Combat Evolved linked as [[Halo: Combat Evolved|Halo: Combat Evolved]]. Once more, sorry for the mess. 2601:47:100:AC40:DC2E:A0B2:CC7D:74A (talk) 01:14, 1 July 2024 (UTC)

At least there were some edits just recently... But now this: Following this, YouTube suspended him from its partner program and demonetized his channel. Should be "from their partner program". Respectfully @Mellk:. 76.99.92.104 (talk) 11:39, 1 July 2024 (UTC)

I suppose "from the platform's partner program" also works? Mellk (talk) 12:02, 1 July 2024 (UTC)

Aye. And please take into consideration my list of requests. 2601:47:100:AC40:E65E:4425:7449:CF8 (talk) 12:09, 1 July 2024 (UTC)

 Done. Mellk (talk) 12:15, 1 July 2024 (UTC)

Finally... I was trying to ping members of the WikiProject VG Esports Task Force, but it didn't work. 2601:47:100:AC40:16AA:5709:1082:A2D1 (talk) 12:25, 1 July 2024 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 29 June 2024

Change "inappropriate" private messages to sexually explicit private messages

Change "Cody Conners alleged on Twitter that the reason for Dr Disrespect's ban was because he had inappropriately messaged a minor on the platform's Whispers messaging" to Cody Conners alleged on Twitter that the reason for Dr Disrespect's ban was because he had sexted a minor on the platform's Whispers messaging

Rolling Stone Bloomberg The Verge

Three sources confirmed to Bloomberg that Beahm had been kicked off the site for sending direct messages to a minor that included sexually graphic details. Two of those sources also confirmed that Beahm had asked her about plans for the upcoming TwitchCon.

A former Twitch trust and safety employee who worked for the platform at the time Beahm was banned and has direct knowledge of the matter confirmed to Rolling Stone that Beahm continued to send sexually graphic messages to a minor he knew to be underage.

Late Friday, Conners posted on X, “He got banned because got caught sexting a minor in the then existing Twitch whispers product. He was trying to meet up with her at TwitchCon. The powers that be could read in plain text.” 72.224.56.40 (talk) 03:17, 29 June 2024 (UTC)

 Not done: The first version seems better. "Inappropriate" is better known that "sexually explicit." and "sexted" seems worse than "inappropriately messaged." TheNuggeteer (talk) 11:32, 29 June 2024 (UTC)

Ahem... What about my edit request? 2601:47:100:AC40:2D01:C63:244F:C9F0 (talk) 12:55, 29 June 2024 (UTC)

Where is your edit request? TheNuggeteer (talk) 13:20, 29 June 2024 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit requests on 1 July 2024

Realized that one of my requests above for a sentence at Video game development and other ventures was accidentally not done: "Dr Disrespect featured in multiple of the team's social media posts between 2022 and 2023". Again, it should instead clarify that he "featured in several social media posts from the team [the 49ers] during the 2022 and 2023 NFL seasons". Or "seen in several", no matter there. Also gradually found several more things that can be fixed quickly:

• At Early career - "a variation on then-popular" - grammatically and with context from the surrounding sentence, should be "a variation of then-popular".
• Same section - "in costume as the [[Streaming persona|Dr Disrespect persona]]." - It may just be "as Dr Disrespect" or "as Dr Disrespect, an bombastic and body-armored character who claimed to have won the Blockbuster World Video Game Championships in 1993 and 1994" instead.
• At Permanent ban from Twitch and fallout (I remember contributing to it in 2020 and suggesting things back than) - "debunking any "crazy speculation" or theory that had developed" - By "theory" I should have meant "conspiracy theories", since he allegedly spoke of them (like those by Icke about COVID) without saying to the contrary that they're (to-date) untrue and wrong. Also, "Doc 3.0" isn't upcoming, and it referred to his return to live-streaming on YouTube in August 2020.
• And at Video game development and other ventures one more time - "Dr Disrespect announced the launch of a triple A gaming studio named Midnight Society, which would be headed by him" - I think "triple-A" substitutes "triple A" and "was" substitutes "would be".

2601:47:100:AC40:AD46:A938:739F:F3CB (talk) 18:43, 1 July 2024 (UTC)

Mellx, I probably should let you know that if this isn't answered within 25 minutes, then I might do so. 2601:47:100:AC40:FC90:E840:BC38:F11D (talk) 23:31, 1 July 2024 (UTC)