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New Pages Patrol newsletter June 2023

Hello Hawkeye7,

New Page Review queue April to June 2023

Backlog

Redirect drive: In response to an unusually high redirect backlog, we held a redirect backlog drive in May. The drive completed with 23851 reviews done in total, bringing the redirect backlog to 0 (momentarily). Congratulations to Hey man im josh who led with a staggering 4316 points, followed by Meena and Greyzxq with 2868 and 2546 points respectively. See this page for more details. The redirect queue is steadily rising again and is steadily approaching 4,000. Please continue to help out, even if it's only for a few or even one review a day.

Redirect autopatrol: All administrators without autopatrol have now been added to the redirect autopatrol list. If you see any users who consistently create significant amounts of good quality redirects, consider requesting redirect autopatrol for them here.

WMF work on PageTriage: The WMF Moderator Tools team, consisting of Sam, Jason and Susana, and also some patches from Jon, has been hard at work updating PageTriage. They are focusing their efforts on modernising the extension's code rather than on bug fixes or new features, though some user-facing work will be prioritised. This will help make sure that this extension is not deprecated, and is easier to work on in the future. In the next month or so, we will have an opt-in beta test where new page patrollers can help test the rewrite of Special:NewPagesFeed, to help find bugs. We will post more details at WT:NPPR when we are ready for beta testers.

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Protecting the TFA

I saw your comments at Pppery's RFA. If you haven't already seen it, I thought you might be interested in the discussion at WT:TFA#Enough is enough, which (though sort of stalled) seems to be leading to a proactive semi-protection of the TFA. Although maybe that discussion is what initiated your comments.

I think the back and forth at the RFA might be due to a lack of clarity of terms; when you say "admins uphold the right of vandals to attack the front page by refusing to protect it", obviously vandals can't edit the front page, including the TFA blurb; they can (currently) edit the TFA article itself, but that isn't on the front page, it's just linked from there. In fact, no article linked from the front page is automatically protected. The TFA section of the main page is protected exactly the same as the other sections.

Finally, gently, I'm a little taken aback by the claims that "admins" uphold the right of vandals ... by refusing to protect it. In my experience, the occasional proposal to automatically protect it was supported by a majority of admins, but was opposed by a majority of non-admins, who saw it as a slippery slope to eventually increase the number of pages that are fully protected. It's unfair to blame admins for following the will of the community as a whole. Maybe you were blaming "admins" at the RFA to make your point, but it's inaccurate, and (in my own case) somewhat insulting. If you want to blame the community for "upholding the rights of vandals", that's slightly more on point, but still pretty unfair and insulting. --Floquenbeam (talk) 22:57, 2 August 2023 (UTC)

You are completely right. The routine surge of vandalism of the TFA article has been a major frustration to me. I accept your point about it being unfair, but you know, with great power comes great responsibility. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 03:23, 3 August 2023 (UTC)

In fact, it appears User:Courcelles was routinely semi-protecting the TFA for about 2 weeks in July. I'm not sure why he stopped. Floquenbeam (talk) 23:10, 2 August 2023 (UTC)

Because I flat out started forgetting? Courcelles (talk) 23:21, 2 August 2023 (UTC)

Which is why we need the adminbot. It shouldn’t depend on one person remembering, not being busy, not having the power go out, etc. Courcelles (talk) 23:24, 2 August 2023 (UTC)

I thought maybe you got yelled at. I'd agree with the admin bot. A bot already move-protects it. Would adding a semi-protection task require a Bot noticeboard discussion, or could someone... just do it? Floquenbeam (talk) 23:26, 2 August 2023 (UTC)

Nope, never got yelled at. But between some busy days, some standard Summertime power outages, and being good at long term memorization but not at short term daily chores, sometimes I forgot. I did not like the porn in TFA, at all. Courcelles (talk) 23:29, 2 August 2023 (UTC)

As to doing it, I think there’s a BRFA on hold… Wikipedia:Bots/Requests for approval/TFA Protector Bot 3 is very much forgotten about. Courcelles (talk) 23:30, 2 August 2023 (UTC)

I thought you had gotten yelled at too. Thanks for what you did. It was appreciated. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 03:23, 3 August 2023 (UTC)

August songs

my story today

Thank you today for the article about "the Naval officer who was the deputy head of the wartime Los Alamos Laboratory, and the commander of the mission that bombed Hiroshima."! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:10, 6 August 2023 (UTC)

Today is Debussy's birthday. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:08, 22 August 2023 (UTC)

Lisa Nowak

This is to let you know that the above article has been scheduled as today's featured article for 14 September 2023. Please check that the article needs no amendments. Feel free to amend the draft blurb, which can be found at Wikipedia:Today's featured article/September 2023, or to make comments on other matters concerning the scheduling of this article at Wikipedia talk:Today's featured article/September 2023. I suggest that you watchlist Wikipedia:Main Page/Errors from two days before it appears on the Main Page. I've also selected NERVA for September 28, 2023; the same applies to that. Thanks and congratulations on your work!—Wehwalt (talk) 23:15, 4 August 2023 (UTC)

@Courcelles: Heads up. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 23:22, 4 August 2023 (UTC)

Watchlisted. I am surprised that’s even lasting routine editing without semi. Courcelles (talk) 23:36, 4 August 2023 (UTC)

I know I would get yelled at for protecting a month in advance, though. Courcelles (talk) 23:38, 4 August 2023 (UTC)

There's been considerable discussion at WP:ERRORS and even WP:AN/I and I've pulled the article from the main page. See there for details. Wehwalt (talk) 13:28, 14 September 2023 (UTC)

I have WP:ERRORS watchlisted but, due to the time difference, it all occurred while I was asleep. The irony is that before I started working on the article, the bulk of the article was about the 2007 incident. I rebalanced it by expanding the other sections. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 19:59, 14 September 2023 (UTC)

September songs

my story today

Thank you today for NERVA, about "the NASA nuclear rocket project. Unlike its forerunner, Project Rover, it developed entire engines and not just reactors for them."! - Sorry that I missed thanks for Lisa Novak, so late thanks for balancing that article! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:51, 28 September 2023 (UTC)

Tech News: 2023-34

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Recent changes

• The GDrive to Commons Uploader tool is now available. It enables securely selecting and uploading files from your Google Drive directly to Wikimedia Commons. [1]
• From now on, we will announce new Wikimedia wikis in Tech News, so you can update any tools or pages.
  • Since the last edition, two new wikis have been created:
    • a Wiktionary in Pa'O (wikt:blk:) [2]
    • a Wikisource in Sundanese (s:su:) [3]
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    • Wikifunctions (f:) [4]
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    • a Wikipedia in Ghanaian Pidgin (w:gpe:) [6]
    • a Wikinews in Gungbe (n:guw:) [7]
    • a Wiktionary in Kabardian (wikt:kbd:) [8]
    • a Wikipedia in Fante (w:fat:) [9]

Changes later this week

• The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 22 August. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 23 August. It will be on all wikis from 24 August (calendar).

Future changes

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Tech News: 2023-35

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• As part of the changes for the better diff handling of paragraph splits, improved detection of splits is being rolled out. Over the last two weeks, we deployed this support to group0 and group1 wikis. This week it will be deployed to group2 wikis. [11]
• All Special:Contributions pages now show the user's local edit count and the account's creation date. [12]
• Wikisource users can now use the prpbengalicurrency label to denote Bengali currency characters as page numbers inside the <pagelist> tag. [13]
• Two preferences have been relocated. The preference "Enable the visual editor" is now shown on the "Editing" tab at all wikis. Previously it was shown on the "Beta features" tab at some wikis. The preference "Use the wikitext mode inside the visual editor, instead of a different wikitext editor" is now also shown on the "Editing" tab at all wikis, instead of the "Beta features" tab. [14][15]

Changes later this week

• The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 29 August. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 30 August. It will be on all wikis from 31 August (calendar).
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• All right-to-left language wikis, plus Korean, Armenian, Ukrainian, Russian, and Bulgarian Wikipedias, will have a link in the sidebar that provides a short URL of that page, using the Wikimedia URL Shortener. This feature will come to more wikis in future weeks. [16]

Future changes

• The removal of the DoubleWiki extension is being discussed. This extension currently allows Wikisource users to view articles from multiple language versions side by side when the <=> symbol next to a specific language edition is selected. Comments on this are welcomed at the phabricator task.
• A proposal has been made to merge the second hidden-categories list (which appears below the wikitext editing form) with the main list of categories (which is further down the page). More information is available on Phabricator; feedback is welcome!

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Wikiproject Military history coordinator election nominations open

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TFA for Howard Florey

Hi Hawkeye, does a TFA set for October 25 work for you? - Dank (push to talk) 03:38, 3 September 2023 (UTC) Btw, I'll take a shot at the blurb, but feel free to fix my mistakes. - Dank (push to talk) 15:17, 3 September 2023 (UTC)

Should be okay. The article was only recently promoted. Unfortunately, I couldn't get History of penicillin through GA. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 19:48, 3 September 2023 (UTC)

I would be happy to help with that if I didn't suck at GAN. - Dank (push to talk) 20:27, 3 September 2023 (UTC)

WikiCup 2023 September newsletter

The fourth round of the competition has finished, with anyone scoring less than 673 points being eliminated. It was a high scoring round with all but one of the contestants who progressed to the final having achieved an FA during the round. The highest scorers were

• Epicgenius, with 2173 points topping the scores, gained mainly from a featured article, 38 good articles and 9 DYKs. He was followed by
• Sammi Brie, with 1575 points, gained mainly from a featured article, 28 good articles and 50 good article reviews. Close behind was
• Thebiguglyalien, with 1535 points mainly gained from a featured article, 15 good articles, 26 good article reviews and lots of bonus points.

Between them during round 4, contestants achieved 12 featured articles, 3 featured lists, 3 featured pictures, 126 good articles, 46 DYK entries, 14 ITN entries, 67 featured article candidate reviews and 147 good article reviews. Congratulations to our eight finalists and all who participated! It was a generally high-scoring and productive round and I think we can expect a highly competitive finish to the competition.

Remember that any content promoted after the end of round 4 but before the start of round 5 can be claimed in round 5. Remember too that you must claim your points within 10 days of "earning" them and within 24 hours of the end of the final. If you are concerned that your nomination will not receive the necessary reviews, please list it on Wikipedia:WikiCup/Reviews. It would be helpful if this list could be cleared of any items no longer relevant. If you want to help out with the WikiCup, please do your bit to keep down the review backlogs! Questions are welcome on Wikipedia talk:WikiCup, and the judges are reachable on their talk pages or by email. If you wish to start or stop receiving this newsletter, please feel free to add or remove your name from Wikipedia:WikiCup/Newsletter/Send.

I will be standing down as a judge after the end of the contest. I think the Cup encourages productive editors to improve their contributions to Wikipedia and I hope that someone else will step up to take over the running of the Cup. Sturmvogel 66 (talk), and Cwmhiraeth (talk)

Tech News: 2023-36

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• EditInSequence, a feature that allows users to edit pages faster on Wikisource has been moved to a Beta Feature based on community feedback. To enable it, you can navigate to the beta features tab in Preferences. [17]
• As part of the changes for the Generate Audio for IPA and Audio links that play on click wishlist proposals, the inline audio player mode of Phonos has been deployed to all projects. [18]
• There is a new option for Administrators when they are changing the usergroups for a user, to add the user’s user page to their watchlist. This works both via Special:UserRights and via the API. [19]
• One new wiki has been created:
  • a Wikipedia in Talysh (w:tly:) [20]

Problems

• The LoginNotify extension was not sending notifications since January. It has now been fixed, so going forward, you may see notifications for failed login attempts, and successful login attempts from a new device. [21]

Changes later this week

• The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 5 September. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 6 September. It will be on all wikis from 7 September (calendar).
• Starting on Wednesday, a new set of Wikipedias will get "Add a link" (Eastern Mari Wikipedia, Maori Wikipedia, Minangkabau Wikipedia, Macedonian Wikipedia, Malayalam Wikipedia, Mongolian Wikipedia, Marathi Wikipedia, Western Mari Wikipedia, Malay Wikipedia, Maltese Wikipedia, Mirandese Wikipedia, Erzya Wikipedia, Mazanderani Wikipedia, Nāhuatl Wikipedia, Neapolitan Wikipedia, Low German Wikipedia, Low Saxon Wikipedia, Nepali Wikipedia, Newari Wikipedia, Norwegian Nynorsk Wikipedia, Novial Wikipedia, N'Ko Wikipedia, Nouormand Wikipedia, Northern Sotho Wikipedia, Navajo Wikipedia, Nyanja Wikipedia, Occitan Wikipedia, Livvi-Karelian Wikipedia, Oromo Wikipedia, Oriya Wikipedia, Ossetic Wikipedia, Punjabi Wikipedia, Pangasinan Wikipedia, Pampanga Wikipedia, Papiamento Wikipedia, Picard Wikipedia, Pennsylvania German Wikipedia, Palatine German Wikipedia, Norfuk / Pitkern Wikipedia, Piedmontese Wikipedia, Western Punjabi Wikipedia, Pontic Wikipedia, Pashto Wikipedia). This is part of the progressive deployment of this tool to more Wikipedias. The communities can configure how this feature works locally. [22][23]

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The Bugle: Issue 209, September 2023

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Good article reassessment for Netball in the Cook Islands

Netball in the Cook Islands has been nominated for a good article reassessment. If you are interested in the discussion, please participate by adding your comments to the reassessment page. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, the good article status may be removed from the article. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 11:57, 9 September 2023 (UTC)

TFA

Hi Hawkeye. I am looking at scheduling British logistics in the Western Allied invasion of Germany on 30 November. Do you fancy generating a blurb? Gog the Mild (talk) 21:14, 9 September 2023 (UTC)

I will generate a blurb. However, I would greatly prefer that Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Military history/Assessment/British logistics in the Siegfried Line campaign be run instead. Since British logistics in the Normandy campaign was run in June, the readers will get the articles in chronological order. It will also align with the time of year. I have prepared a blurb for Wikipedia talk:Featured article candidates/British logistics in the Western Allied invasion of Germany/archive1 too. Please check both for my usual typos, and let me know if you prefer different images for either of them. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 00:16, 10 September 2023 (UTC)

No problem. British logistics in the Siegfried Line campaign it is - good points. And thanks. Gog the Mild (talk) 00:20, 10 September 2023 (UTC)

I expect that I will also be scheduling February and May. Gog the Mild (talk) 00:21, 10 September 2023 (UTC)

February would be a good time to run British logistics in the Western Allied invasion of Germany. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 00:31, 10 September 2023 (UTC)

And perhaps save the Americans for VE Day? Gog the Mild (talk) 00:38, 10 September 2023 (UTC)

Have to get that one through FAC first. We should also work in Talk:American services and supply in the Siegfried Line campaign at some point. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 02:03, 10 September 2023 (UTC)

No problem. You have the reviewers queued up. It will just roll through. Gog the Mild (talk) 02:47, 10 September 2023 (UTC)

We decided to run British logistics in the Siegfried Line campaign in November, yes? At least, I have it scheduled for the 30th. If you are ok with that do you want to have first go at the blurb or would you prefer me to? Cheers. Gog the Mild (talk) 23:06, 28 September 2023 (UTC)

Ok, I've found it. Gog the Mild (talk) 14:57, 29 September 2023 (UTC)

Tech News: 2023-37

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes

• ORES, the revision evaluation service, is now using a new open-source infrastructure on all wikis except for English Wikipedia and Wikidata. These two will follow this week. If you notice any unusual results from the Recent Changes filters that are related to ORES (for example, "Contribution quality predictions" and "User intent predictions"), please report them. [24]
• When you are logged in on one Wikimedia wiki and visit a different Wikimedia wiki, the system tries to log you in there automatically. This has been unreliable for a long time. You can now visit the login page to make the system try extra hard. If you feel that made logging in better or worse than it used to be, your feedback is appreciated. [25]

Changes later this week

• The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 12 September. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 13 September. It will be on all wikis from 14 September (calendar).
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• As part of the changes for the Better diff handling of paragraph splits wishlist proposal, the inline switch widget in diff pages is being rolled out this week to all wikis. The inline switch will allow viewers to toggle between a unified inline or two-column diff wikitext format. [26]

Future changes

• All wikis will be read-only for a few minutes on 20 September. This is planned at 14:00 UTC. More information will be published in Tech News and will also be posted on individual wikis in the coming weeks. [27]
• The Enterprise API is launching a new feature called "breaking news". Currently in BETA, this attempts to identify likely "newsworthy" topics as they are currently being written about in any Wikipedia. Your help is requested to improve the accuracy of its detection model, especially on smaller language editions, by recommending templates or identifiable editing patterns. See more information at the documentation page on MediaWiki or the FAQ on Meta.

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ITN recognition for Ron Barassi

On 17 September 2023, In the news was updated with an item that involved the article Ron Barassi, which you updated. If you know of another recently created or updated article suitable for inclusion in ITN, please suggest it on the candidates page. Schwede66 08:58, 17 September 2023 (UTC)

Tech News: 2023-38

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes

• MediaWiki now has a stable interface policy for frontend code that more clearly defines how we deprecate MediaWiki code and wiki-based code (e.g. gadgets and user scripts). Thank you to everyone who contributed to the content and discussions. [28][29]

Changes later this week

• The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 19 September. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 20 September. It will be on all wikis from 21 September (calendar).
• All wikis will be read-only for a few minutes on September 20. This is planned at 14:00 UTC. [30]
• All wikis will have a link in the sidebar that provides a short URL of that page, using the Wikimedia URL Shortener. [31]

Future changes

• The team investigating the Graph Extension posted a proposal for reenabling it and they need your input.

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Good article reassessment for Netball

Netball has been nominated for a good article reassessment. If you are interested in the discussion, please participate by adding your comments to the reassessment page. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, the good article status may be removed from the article. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 00:37, 20 September 2023 (UTC)

ITN recognition for Kevin Neale

On 20 September 2023, In the news was updated with an item that involved the article Kevin Neale, which you nominated and updated. If you know of another recently created or updated article suitable for inclusion in ITN, please suggest it on the candidates page. PFHLai (talk) 06:17, 20 September 2023 (UTC)

Assessment for Aviatik C.VI

On the assessment request page, you reassessed this article as a B, but forgot to update the talk page accordingly. Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 08:43, 22 September 2023 (UTC)

I didn't assess it. Edits to the page made it look like I did. [32] Hawkeye7 (discuss) 10:02, 22 September 2023 (UTC)

Curious, but thanks anyway.--Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 14:57, 22 September 2023 (UTC)

New pages patrol newsletter

Hello Hawkeye7,

New Page Review article queue, March to September 2023

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Good article reassessment for John von Neumann

John von Neumann has been nominated for a good article reassessment. If you are interested in the discussion, please participate by adding your comments to the reassessment page. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, the good article status may be removed from the article. Thebiguglyalien (talk) 07:19, 23 September 2023 (UTC)

DYK nomination of James Edward Moore

Hello! Your submission of James Edward Moore at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and some issues with it may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) at your nomination's entry and respond there at your earliest convenience. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! Wasted Time R (talk) 00:20, 26 September 2023 (UTC)

nerva

Hawkeye7, i had a quick question regarding this article. the statement that uranium-233 "has a higher number of neutrons per fission event" [link removed] compared to uranium-235 thoroughly confused me, as i had believed that uranium-235 had two more neutrons than uranium-233, regardless of any fission events. after looking through the cited borowski source, i realized that what was of interest was that uranium-233 had a "large ν-value", where ν is defined on page 6 as "the average number of neutrons (both prompt and delayed) released per fission reaction".

would it be proper to replace "higher number of neutrons" with "higher average number of neutrons released", or perhaps just "higher number of neutrons released"? admittedly, i am not a nuclear physicist, so i don't know if how the passage is currently worded is reflective of the literature, but i thought i might make the suggestion to help prevent others like me from being confused. dying (talk) 00:57, 26 September 2023 (UTC)

 Done This comes from knowing the topic all too well. Uranium-233 emits 2.5 neutrons per fission event on average compared with 2.4 for uranium-235. Tweaked the wording to make it clearer as to what I am talking about. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 02:07, 26 September 2023 (UTC)

looks good. thanks, Hawkeye7! dying (talk) 06:04, 26 September 2023 (UTC)

Tech News: 2023-39

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• The Vector 2022 skin will now remember the pinned/unpinned status for the Table of Contents for all logged-out users. [33]

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MediaWiki message delivery 16:49, 26 September 2023 (UTC)

Question

Hello, congratulations on getting NERVA to FA status. I went to the main page with the hopes of finding a good-quality article to use as a model and I found the one you wrote. I recently wrote this article [36], I've edited for years but only recently switched to the sfn template system. That article I've linked had a big number of newspaper citations despite initially believing I'd mostly write the article based on journals, so for the first time I applied sfn on some sources and the normal etiquettes <ref></ref> on others. Your FA also has variation, so my question was the following.

Could you explain to me when is sfn applied? As I understand it is used for journals and books, or for citations with pages. I don't know which one of the two. In my article there's two cited pageless journals, one is self-published (reference 16) and another is I believe a peer-reviewed journal (reference 5). I did not use sfn on the first but I did on the second. Would this be appropriate? Sorry for randomly coming here asking for help, hopefully you can lend me a hand. Regards, Super Dromaeosaurus (talk) 21:55, 28 September 2023 (UTC)

{{sfn}} can be used for websites but is really only useful for books, journals and reports that have pages and therefore need a page number to locate the relevant textual source. Hence my style is to use it only for the former. The {{cite}} templates create the anchor and the {{sfn}} creates the appropriate links. They are easier to use than the older {{harvnb}} templates which require a name attrubute on the reference tag. This makes it simpler to add and remove text. Reference 5 could use a page number, being a book. Reference 16 is okay (I tweaked it to remove a warning); journals are a border case and some editors use sfn but others not, as the journal may be in (or is accessed in) electronic form. So your usage is fine and quite appropriate. I urge you to add access-date cards to the references, as this will allow the bots to create archive references when link rot occurs. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 23:25, 28 September 2023 (UTC)

Thank you a lot for your help. Generally I only add access-dates for websites that do not feature publication dates, I find it superfluous in any other case. As far as I know, bots still create archives without adding an access-date. Super Dromaeosaurus (talk) 18:05, 29 September 2023 (UTC)

Uncivil conduct

I plan to report your actions on Relief of Douglas MacArthur to an administrator outside the content issue listed at Third Opinion. But I wanted to give you a chance to respond here first and potentially resolve the issue. My main concerns:

1. You are being dismissive when telling me to "read the article" multiple times when I asked for a source. Simply pointing to a specific citation will allow us to move the conversation forward.

2. You removed my citation needed tag, saying it was a blockable offense and "don't do it again." When I asked the source of authority for this offense you simply repeated the assertion without a source, ignoring my cited passage that indicates a different path you should have taken. I am well aware of the normal way of writing leads according to MOS:CITELEAD. But various situations call for a citation in the lead, such as (1) a quote of opinion in the lead, and (2) material in the lead that does not appear in the article (as in this case).

To be clear, I understand that some of the wording in the lead sentences I highlighted is sourced in the article. But the sentences, as written, do not appear in the article that I can see. Please restore the citation needed tags or point to the citations that support these sentences. Thank you. Airborne84 (talk) 01:03, 30 September 2023 (UTC)

Hawkeye's comments at Talk:Relief of Douglas MacArthur#Civilian control of the military, which is what I presume you're referring to, are perfectly civil. You appear to be basing your arguments on a master's thesis and a War on the Rocks article that agree with your views, when Hawkeye is rightly noting that this issue is debated. 'Citation needed' tag bombing the lead of a featured article is very unhelpful behaviour, given that the material is cited later in the article. Threatening Hawkeye with bad consequences if they don't go along with you as you are doing in the first para of this post is also an unhelpful and uncivil way to conduct yourself. I'd suggest dropping the stick here. Nick-D (talk) 02:42, 30 September 2023 (UTC)

Nick-D, no, Talk:Relief of Douglas MacArthur#Civilian control of the military, is a different section with a separate topic. This is about the section above it called "Lead issues." And I did not "citation bomb" the article. The first thing I did was ask on the talk page for a citation for material that appears unsourced. It is unclear to me why pointing to the citation(s) is such a hard thing. I don't treat other editors so dismissively. That would be uncivil. Airborne84 (talk) 12:39, 30 September 2023 (UTC)

Please don't bite the newcomer next time Hawkeye7. You appear to value your time. I value mine. You wasted quite a bit of mine until someone else came along and provided the sources you would not provide (which were not in "Huntington" where you said I should read through). I hope you consider this the next time someone tries to improve an article you've working on, FA or not. Thanks. Airborne84 (talk) 00:28, 3 October 2023 (UTC)

Alan Shepard scheduled for TFA

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British logistics in the Siegfried Line campaign scheduled for TFA

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ITN recognition for 2023 AFL Grand Final

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Commiserations

		The Lead Coordinator stars
		On behalf of the members of WikiProject Military history, in recognition of your re-election to the position of Lead Coordinator, I present you with the Lead Coordinator's stars, and wish you the best of luck for the coming year! You will need it, as while you are far and away the best candidate for the role, with an inspiring track record, I cannot but feel that a year of the attempted herding of cats that is MilHist constitutes cruel and unusual punishment. No doubt you will somehow manage to do the seemingly impossible with your usual efficiency and panache, for which all of us who appreciate the project will again be deeply grateful. Gog the Mild (talk) 21:44, 2 October 2023 (UTC)

Tech News: 2023-40

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• There is a new user preference for "Always enable safe mode". This setting will make pages load without including any on-wiki JavaScript or on-wiki stylesheet pages. It can be useful for debugging broken JavaScript gadgets. [37]
• Gadget definitions now have a new "contentModels" option. The option takes a list of page content models, like wikitext or css. Gadgets that use this option will only load on pages with the given content models.

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• The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 3 October. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 4 October. It will be on all wikis from 5 October (calendar).

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• The Vector 2022 skin will no longer use the custom styles and scripts of Vector legacy (2010). The change will be made later this year or in early 2024. See how to adjust the CSS and JS pages on your wiki. [38]

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Congratulations from the Military History Project

		The Military history A-Class cross with Oak Leaves
		On behalf of the Military History Project, I am proud to present the A-Class cross with Oak Leaves for William D. Leahy, Eileen Collins, Miles Dempsey, British logistics in the Western Allied invasion of Germany, and American logistics in the Western Allied invasion of Germany. Peacemaker67 (talk) via MilHistBot (talk) 06:00, 3 October 2023 (UTC)