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Help with user page
The easiest way to copy what I have going would be to go to my page and click edit. Copy the code and modify it to fit your needs. If you need any help, leave another message and I'll try to assist. Morphh (talk) 1:21, 07 August 2009 (UTC)
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Biographies of Living Persons
- Make sure you read WP:BLP. This will help guide you when editing biographies of living people. Morphh (talk) 2:59, 07 August 2009 (UTC)
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Malke 2010, not sure what template your looking to place, but here is helpful tool that lists them by category. Morphh (talk) 1:33, 09 August 2009 (UTC)
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Scotland talk
Howdy, archiving would be acceptable, as there's alot of repetition in those discussions. GoodDay (talk) 19:33, 20 November 2009 (UTC)
Wiki things
Your comments
You express yourself clearly, very well said. Off2riorob (talk) 21:49, 20 November 2009 (UTC)
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I hear you 3rr
hi, to make your case you should say to him that you ask him to revert his last edits that violated the 3rr and give him the chance to revert, then if he doesn't at least you made the offer to him. Off2riorob (talk) 22:33, 22 November 2009 (UTC)
- I can see two clear reverts...as I told someone else, 3 reverts and then a warning on the users talkpage and then if the user makes another one give him the opportunity to revert on his talk page and then if he doesn't you can report him and that is a strong case, these days I would not report unless all of those step were met, that way your reports will be strong and you won't be wasting your energy reporting, never mind, next time if you want to make a report follow these steps, regards. Off2riorob (talk) 23:28, 22 November 2009 (UTC)
Take care not to make too much noise, discussion is the key, tomorrow is there waiting and the day after. Off2riorob (talk) 23:42, 22 November 2009 (UTC)
- Hello Malke 2010. I've replied at User talk:EdJohnston#Edit War Notice Board. EdJohnston (talk) 02:32, 23 November 2009 (UTC)
- Thanks for your reply. If you want assistance in opening an RfC, ask me or any other admin. It would be a good-faith gesture if you would withdraw your 3RR complaint. EdJohnston (talk) 03:38, 23 November 2009 (UTC)
clear issues
that section clearly is excessive and has many issues, it should not be there, regards. Off2riorob (talk) 21:48, 23 November 2009 (UTC)
- Yea, looks good..I like the ideas..carry on. Off2riorob (talk) 18:01, 24 November 2009 (UTC)
- Come by and "put in your two cents" as the Yanks love to sayMalke 2010 (talk) 18:03, 24 November 2009 (UTC)
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religion controversy
Hi Malke, presently, if you missed it, I am recovering from having my good name, or not good name... dragged through the muddy waters of ANI, please don't comment there as the report had lost its legs. If the religion discussion stalls or appears to be going nowhere, after a degree of time, then take the issue to the BLP noticeboard. Off2riorob (talk) 14:13, 25 November 2009 (UTC)
- Thanks for thanksgiving, i'm in the uk, but still, why not, best wishes to you to. Off2riorob (talk) 16:05, 25 November 2009 (UTC)
Externals
Aw, thanks, you too. This article is also a bit comparable, It clearly would be good to read the WP:EL article. Off2riorob (talk) 20:35, 28 November 2009 (UTC)
Checklinks tool
Here is the checklinks tool for Rove, you can use it for checking the links on any article, just change the name in the box at the top, anything red is broken and needs looking at, perhaps repairing with the internet wayback machine, google it, its a tool for repairing links to past versions of the page that are sometimes archived on the web, and anything with connection issues it inneed of checking, blue is OK, ask me if you want to know anything. Off2riorob (talk) 21:22, 28 November 2009 (UTC)
- Scrubbin is the last option, here is the Wayback machine add the web address to the box when you go there and see if there are any pages saved in the big internet memmory, if there are then replace the new link for the old one, if there aren't any saved versions then we look for a replacement citation, if all that fails then it would need to go and perhaps the content be replaced with something similar. Off2riorob (talk) 21:50, 28 November 2009 (UTC)
- I don't really want to do much there really, I had a bit of energy for the copy vio template on the religion section and a bit of energy for the external section as it also has a template and that small removal which I thought was wrong in the lede, thats about it, but I am around if you want to ask me anything and if I can point you in the right direction I will, yea? Off2riorob (talk) 22:08, 28 November 2009 (UTC)
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WP:BRD. WP:BATTLE WP:NPOV undue weight
this is funny: mount the gallows
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See: Wikipedia style guideline on use of footnotes for more details. His family moved to Salt Lake City in 1965 when Rove was entering high school. He became a skilled debator.[1] Rove described his high school years as "I was the complete nerd. I had the briefcase. I had the pocket protector. I wore Hush Puppies when they were not cool. I was the thin, scrawny little guy. I was definitely uncool." Put up by a teacher to run for class senate, he beat his opponent by riding in the back of a convertible sandwiched between two attractive girls inside the school gymnasium,[2] right before his election speech. While at Olympus High School,[3] he was elected student council president his junior and senior years.
Wikipedia is a work in progress dispute resolution relevant noticeboards Edit war/3RR noticeboard. [14]
Jonas Salk
paterson evening news reference [17] [18]
- The Salk photos in the article were tagged but the problems are fixed. There is no clear reason why they would be deleted and I assume the "problem notice" tags on them now will eventually get removed. The best, easiest, and safest way to check copyright status and ownership is with a copyright search. If it's not listed as having been filed or renewed then it's safe to assume there is no copyright. I doubt that any newspaper would even be able to confirm whether they ever filed any notices since that would take them a lot of in-house or legal research through old (non-computerized) records. --Wikiwatcher1 (talk) 17:21, 30 November 2009 (UTC)
- When I enlarged the photo I could see the names of the newspapers taped up in the guy's window. So before I left the question on your talk page, I emailed all of those papers including the New York Times and the New York Daily News. If they come back with anything interesting, any anecdotes about the times, I'll add it to the article.Malke 2010 (talk) 13:19, 1 December 2009 (UTC)
Robotic work
Well the "General Fixes" part is done by WP:AWB but it is currently hamstrung because someone doesn't like that it gives references names. The other specific part is dating tags such as {{Citation missing}} - this puts the articles into dated categories, to help with cleanup. To find out more about robots see WP:BOT. Rich Farmbrough, 15:21, 30 November 2009 (UTC).
- It isn't as good as it should be. We have 203,000 such articles going back to at least January 2006, see table on right. And there are other categories almost as big. Rich Farmbrough, 15:27, 30 November 2009 (UTC).
Copy from talk page:
Excuse me, but I did not "simply revert". I moved the content to the appropriate main body article section. The lead section of an article should not contain content that is not already included in the article itself. Per WP:LEAD: The lead serves both as an introduction to the article and as a summary of the important aspects of the subject of the article. I also corrected citation format style rather than the blank links with no appropriate identification, title, date, publication or author. Yeah, you're right, it does take a lot of work. It takes even more work to correct errors in citation addition, verify citations, some of which did not, in any way, support what you said it did and for which I had to find proper sourcing. Let me remind you this is designated a good article and thus, the style, citations and content that you added does not pass good article muster. The rest of the content you added to the lead isn't at all supported by a stark link to the Writer's Guild, which, when his name is searched, states simply "Sorry, this member has chosen not to publish any details." This content would not go in the lead unless it is already contained in the article. I note also that you were told here that the content should go in the personal life section, which is not where you put it. When you make an addition to an article and click save, it is no longer your addition. At the bottom, below the edit window, in tiny letters, it says "If you do not want your writing to be edited, used, and redistributed at will, then do not submit it here." I did not simply revert your addition, I moved it and cleaned it up. Please be so good as to return to the personal life section the cleaned up content regarding the marathon and remove the unverified content you added to the lead. Otherwise, in this case, I will simply revert it. Wildhartlivie (talk) 21:13, 1 December 2009 (UTC)
- Dude, don't get snarky. It's just wikipedia. . .relax. If the citations need clean up, mention that in the talk page and tell the user to get on it on that user's talk page. People learn from their mistakes. If an editor has to go back and clean up their own contribution they won't make that mistake again. Also, I did move the marathon thing to the personal section. I had not finished editing when you came along and reverted/moved. When I was putting in my edit, I noticed the lead could use some work, so I went looking for citations. So you can imagine, when I came back I wondered what had happened. I always use the talk page, I think it keeps things cool. Nice to meet you. :) Malke 2010 (talk) 21:48, 1 December 2009 (UTC)
- I didn't just delete your post, I archived my talk page for the month. What needed to be kept for some reason, was archived. You can learn about basic referencing at WP:REFB and about using citation templates, which is what most good or featured articles use, at WP:CT. I would encourage you to notice if articles are designated as good or featured articles so that you can be better aware of the absolute need to cite everything that is added, to format citations properly, and to just be aware of what is considered good. Featured articles have a gold star in the upper left-hand corner, and you can enable article ratings assessment at the top of each article by going to User preferences at the top of the page, then click on "Gadgets", and at the bottom of the page at User interface gadgets, check the box for "Display an assessment of an article's quality as part of the page header for each article", save and check article pages. It should say "A good article from Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia" at the top of Edward Norton then. Again, though, let me reiterate. There should be nothing in the lead of an article that isn't also in the main body of the article. The main article states and cites that Norton worked on Frida and The Score. It does not mention The Incredible Hulk in the main article. Since you feel it's helpful to clean up your citations yourself, I'll leave you to that. Wildhartlivie (talk) 23:49, 1 December 2009 (UTC)
- To get an article to good article status takes a bit of work. Featured articles are even more work. You can find the basic criteria at WP:GACR, but the better way to see what is expected is to look at other good articles in the category in which the article would fall at WP:GA. The best way to learn is by working on one. They take time and commitment. I'm in the midst of finishing up my work on an article right now and hope to have it ready to nominate by the end of the week. One of the things that come up in reviews for them is the ability to cover the content adequately without indulging in too much rhetoric and hyperbole but still conveying what is necessary to fully cover it. It's a bit of a slippery slope. I think in regard to the trust, it's more important to cover what he is doing for the charity rather than belabor how he managed to promote it. If you have any questions, feel free to ask. I'll check the article later. Wildhartlivie (talk) 00:19, 2 December 2009 (UTC)
- Thanks for the flowers. I don't get them often these days. Wildhartlivie (talk) 00:19, 2 December 2009 (UTC)
- To get an article to good article status takes a bit of work. Featured articles are even more work. You can find the basic criteria at WP:GACR, but the better way to see what is expected is to look at other good articles in the category in which the article would fall at WP:GA. The best way to learn is by working on one. They take time and commitment. I'm in the midst of finishing up my work on an article right now and hope to have it ready to nominate by the end of the week. One of the things that come up in reviews for them is the ability to cover the content adequately without indulging in too much rhetoric and hyperbole but still conveying what is necessary to fully cover it. It's a bit of a slippery slope. I think in regard to the trust, it's more important to cover what he is doing for the charity rather than belabor how he managed to promote it. If you have any questions, feel free to ask. I'll check the article later. Wildhartlivie (talk) 00:19, 2 December 2009 (UTC)
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Just a tip
NPOV means no point of view, which is good in articles. POV, or point of view, is bad in articles. I hope this cleared the usage up as well.Abce2|Free lemonadeonly 25 cents! 18:41, 29 December 2009 (UTC)
- I have explained it on the Wikiquette page.Abce2|Free lemonadeonly 25 cents!18:48, 29 December 2009 (UTC)
Adoption
Please ask any questions related to your adoption here. Make sure you understand how the adoption process works though. For example, I am only a guide. Your actions are your own. If you, say, vandalise, you can't use me as a shield, even if I told you to do it, because you had the choice not to. You may want to place {{Adoptee|Thejadefalcon}} on your user page. --ThejadefalconSing your songThe bird's seeds 02:35, 30 December 2009 (UTC)
- I hope that my advice about vandal fighting works!--Coldplay Expért Let's talk 02:41, 30 December 2009 (UTC)
- XD what if I ban Jimbo Wales? What would they do to me?Malke2010 02:48, 30 December 2009 (UTC)
- well , your not an admin. Oh and I cant talk that much right now. Im reading the WP:MIA. So sad. We have lost so many editors :(--Coldplay Expért Let's talk 02:51, 30 December 2009 (UTC)
- Can I get an Apprentice Editor badge? I really want one.Malke2010 02:52, 30 December 2009 (UTC)
- (edit conflict) As long as you meet the requirements for it, yes. --ThejadefalconSing your songThe bird's seeds 02:57, 30 December 2009 (UTC)
- Do you meet the requirements?--Coldplay Expért Let's talk 02:55, 30 December 2009 (UTC)
- OMG you two are parenting me already. I don't know if I meet the requirements. What are the requirements for it?Malke2010 02:59, 30 December 2009 (UTC)
- 200 edits and one month.--Coldplay Expért Let's talk 03:01, 30 December 2009 (UTC)
- OKay, I've got that. Where's my badge?Malke2010 03:02, 30 December 2009 (UTC)
- 200 edits and one month.--Coldplay Expért Let's talk 03:01, 30 December 2009 (UTC)
- OMG you two are parenting me already. I don't know if I meet the requirements. What are the requirements for it?Malke2010 02:59, 30 December 2009 (UTC)
- Can I get an Apprentice Editor badge? I really want one.Malke2010 02:52, 30 December 2009 (UTC)
- well , your not an admin. Oh and I cant talk that much right now. Im reading the WP:MIA. So sad. We have lost so many editors :(--Coldplay Expért Let's talk 02:51, 30 December 2009 (UTC)
- XD what if I ban Jimbo Wales? What would they do to me?Malke2010 02:48, 30 December 2009 (UTC)
← Here you go: {{SA-novice}} And good news, you are just a few edits away from the next one up: {{SA-apprentice}} Check your edit count and time spent on Wikipedia here. Service awards come from here. --ThejadefalconSing your songThe bird's seeds 03:07, 30 December 2009 (UTC)
- They get put on your user page, generally (or somewhere at the very top of your talk page so that an archive bot, if you choose to use one, won't get rid of it). --ThejadefalconSing your songThe bird's seeds 03:16, 30 December 2009 (UTC)
Edit Conflicts
How do you deal with them? Because I'm noticing that you're deleting an awful lot of comments, like this and a few on my talk page. Are you just copy-pasting the entire bottom window to the top window? If you are, you need to just paste what you added into the top window. Otherwise, you'll get slapped with a large soggy fish. --ThejadefalconSing your songThe bird's seeds 03:02, 30 December 2009 (UTC)
- What are you talking about? I had no idea I was doing that. XD XD XD XD, oh noooo. . .I must have some kind of magnetic charge around me that causes these things to happen...Malke2010 03:04, 30 December 2009 (UTC)
- LOL the wet trout. . .that's brilliant.Malke2010 03:06, 30 December 2009 (UTC)
- From the banner on the top of this page, I see your interested in the Dramaout. You may want to sign up for it on the sign-up page.Abce2|Free lemonadeonly 25 cents! 03:27, 30 December 2009 (UTC)
- Yes, I am interested. It seems like a cool idea. I will sign up.Malke2010 03:28, 30 December 2009 (UTC)
- Jade, you have to sign up for the Dramaout. Coldplay and I are signed up. You do it, too. I'm going to work on the Maasai Trust article. It will be fun.Malke2010 03:34, 30 December 2009 (UTC)
- Nah, I'm staying out of it. I work on articles at my own pace. Besides, I don't think I could go a day without smacking vandals around a little, let alone five days. :P --ThejadefalconSing your songThe bird's seeds 03:35, 30 December 2009 (UTC)
- Okay, but we'll miss you.Malke2010 03:55, 30 December 2009 (UTC)
- To be honest, I cant go a month without being involved in some sort of drama...--Coldplay Expért Let's talk 14:13, 30 December 2009 (UTC)
- Good morning, Commonwealth of Virgina. Isn't that cool? You live in a Commonwealth, not a just an ordinary State. So you're not gonna do the no drama thingy? Also, yesterday, there was this guy who spoke up for me on Abce2's page, and this guy ended up getting blocked. Whoa, don't mess with Abce2, eh? Can you find out exactly why he got blocked? Is there a record of that.Malke2010 16:01, 30 December 2009 (UTC)
- He was a troll. I told him to shut up but he just came back. He wasn't speaking up for you, he was trying to make everything worse.Abce2|Free lemonadeonly 25 cents! 16:12, 30 December 2009 (UTC)
- Yes I am participateing. And yes, Its in his block log. Everyone has a blocklog but not everyione has been blocked. (Ill let you in on a secret. I have been blocked before)--Coldplay Expért Let's talk 16:12, 30 December 2009 (UTC)
- Oh, I knew we were simpatico. . .bravo on your block. And see, you've come back from it and you didn't grow hairy hands or succumb to any other ills. . .hey check out the Karl Rove talk page. Is the new section with the Karl Rove divorce/gay marriage comment an example of vandalism? Personally, I think Rove is gay and that's why his marriages keep tanking. Seriously. He wants to come out of the big Republican walk-in closet, but I don't think I should mention that on his talk page, do you?Malke2010 16:22, 30 December 2009 (UTC)
- Oh, hello there Abce2, didn't see your post. I totally got that he didn't have good intentions, but I did love what he said. Did you notice I didn't reply underneath what he said?Malke2010 16:29, 30 December 2009 (UTC)
- addendum: I meant to say, I loved what the guy said about Chhe. Not the mean thing he said about you.Malke2010 17:00, 30 December 2009 (UTC)
- Want tdo you mean bravo on my block, It was terrible. I logged into 2 other accounts (One was used for a personal attack) and asked for an unblock on my IP! What I did on Sep 19 still disgusts me. (I can show you the diffs If you want, but I would rather not)--Coldplay Expért Let's talk 17:17, 30 December 2009 (UTC)
- So sorry. I didn't go and check on your block as I don't know how to look up all that stuff anyway. I had no idea of what you did. . .I assumed you were blocked for the same lame newbie reasons I was. . .But let's take comfort in the words of Aldous Huxley, (sorry I must paraphrase a bit as I don't recall the exact words) "If you've done wrong, make amends and vow to do no wrong again. But don't keep hashing it over. . .rolling in the muck won't get you clean." Those last words are exact. He has them in the intro to Brave New World. So no more muck rolling, especially if you still haven't grown hairy hands.Malke2010 17:24, 30 December 2009 (UTC)
- Here's my [20] (I think). (You'll notice that the second block was purely accidental and was reverted a minute later).--Coldplay Expért Let's talk 17:29, 30 December 2009 (UTC)
- Want tdo you mean bravo on my block, It was terrible. I logged into 2 other accounts (One was used for a personal attack) and asked for an unblock on my IP! What I did on Sep 19 still disgusts me. (I can show you the diffs If you want, but I would rather not)--Coldplay Expért Let's talk 17:17, 30 December 2009 (UTC)
- addendum: I meant to say, I loved what the guy said about Chhe. Not the mean thing he said about you.Malke2010 17:00, 30 December 2009 (UTC)
- Oh, hello there Abce2, didn't see your post. I totally got that he didn't have good intentions, but I did love what he said. Did you notice I didn't reply underneath what he said?Malke2010 16:29, 30 December 2009 (UTC)
- Oh, I knew we were simpatico. . .bravo on your block. And see, you've come back from it and you didn't grow hairy hands or succumb to any other ills. . .hey check out the Karl Rove talk page. Is the new section with the Karl Rove divorce/gay marriage comment an example of vandalism? Personally, I think Rove is gay and that's why his marriages keep tanking. Seriously. He wants to come out of the big Republican walk-in closet, but I don't think I should mention that on his talk page, do you?Malke2010 16:22, 30 December 2009 (UTC)
- Good morning, Commonwealth of Virgina. Isn't that cool? You live in a Commonwealth, not a just an ordinary State. So you're not gonna do the no drama thingy? Also, yesterday, there was this guy who spoke up for me on Abce2's page, and this guy ended up getting blocked. Whoa, don't mess with Abce2, eh? Can you find out exactly why he got blocked? Is there a record of that.Malke2010 16:01, 30 December 2009 (UTC)
- To be honest, I cant go a month without being involved in some sort of drama...--Coldplay Expért Let's talk 14:13, 30 December 2009 (UTC)
- Okay, but we'll miss you.Malke2010 03:55, 30 December 2009 (UTC)
- Nah, I'm staying out of it. I work on articles at my own pace. Besides, I don't think I could go a day without smacking vandals around a little, let alone five days. :P --ThejadefalconSing your songThe bird's seeds 03:35, 30 December 2009 (UTC)
- Jade, you have to sign up for the Dramaout. Coldplay and I are signed up. You do it, too. I'm going to work on the Maasai Trust article. It will be fun.Malke2010 03:34, 30 December 2009 (UTC)
- Yes, I am interested. It seems like a cool idea. I will sign up.Malke2010 03:28, 30 December 2009 (UTC)
- From the banner on the top of this page, I see your interested in the Dramaout. You may want to sign up for it on the sign-up page.Abce2|Free lemonadeonly 25 cents! 03:27, 30 December 2009 (UTC)
- LOL the wet trout. . .that's brilliant.Malke2010 03:06, 30 December 2009 (UTC)
- What are you talking about? I had no idea I was doing that. XD XD XD XD, oh noooo. . .I must have some kind of magnetic charge around me that causes these things to happen...Malke2010 03:04, 30 December 2009 (UTC)
I don't go looking for these things for just anybody. Here is Aldous' complete quote and I want you to recite it three times a day until you've started to say, "Blocks? What blocks? I don't have any blocks." Here it is: If you have behaved badly, repent, make what amends you can and address yourself to the task of behaving better next time. On no account brood over your wrongdoing. Rolling in the muck is not the best way of getting clean. God, I love Aldous.Malke2010 17:36, 30 December 2009 (UTC)
- All right, there, now I must go for now. . .I must go save the state of California from novel swine flu.Malke2010 17:39, 30 December 2009 (UTC)
Edit Summaries
You are allowed to do many things in edit summaries, but lying is not one of them.— Dædαlus Contribs 23:19, 30 December 2009 (UTC)
- Um...its her (did I get that right?) talk page. And per WP:UP, she can do whatever she wants to messages on it. (The ES was more than likely an acident as "adding comment" it a very common ES and can be used for multiple things. Thank you.--Coldplay Expért Let's talk 00:27, 31 December 2009 (UTC)
- Thank you for not even knowing the rules and talking down to me as if I didn't know them myself. Did you even read my message? First of all, she cannot do anything she wants with any message. She cannot delete selective parts of messages, as that is refactoring posts, and is strictly prohibited, nor, per what I already said, can she change specific parts of a post. This includes removing a signature or replacing the signature with your own or someone else's, so don't you dare quote policy to me when you don't even know it yourself. How about you actually read what you cite before you bother citing it. Lastly, my beef wasn't what she did with the message, but her edit summary. She is not allowed to lie about what the edit entails. She obviously was not adding a message but removing one. Deceit in edit summaries simply isn't allowed, just like one isn't allowed to call good-faith edits vandalism.— Dædαlus Contribs 01:18, 31 December 2009 (UTC)
- Re, your message, you know exactly what I am talking about, I quite clearly linked in my post to you where you lied in an edit summary.— Dædαlus Contribs 01:22, 31 December 2009 (UTC)
- First off. It takes a lot to egg me on here but this is rediculous. WP:UP states, and I quote. "Policy does not prohibit users, including both registered and anonymous users, from removing comments from their own talk pages. She did not remove part of a comment but the whole thing. Second, you need to read WP:CIVIL. Dont point out a twig in one's eye when you have a log in yours. Se removed the whole thing and she is allowed to.--Coldplay Expért Let's talk 01:25, 31 December 2009 (UTC)
- Are you seriously reading selective parts of my post? Try reading the entire thing before getting back to me, thanks.— Dædαlus Contribs 01:32, 31 December 2009 (UTC)
- I have read the whole thing. But you have failed to provide diffs for your accusations. All that you have shown is that she removed a whole section, nothing else.--Coldplay Expért Let's talk 01:33, 31 December 2009 (UTC)
- I'm sorry, but I find it hard to believe you when you say that I said one thing when I in fact said something entirely different. Again, please read my entire post before getting back to me. If you wish me to point out your fallacies, in light of not being able to find them yourself, then just ask.— Dædαlus Contribs 01:35, 31 December 2009 (UTC)
- What the heck are you talking about? You have provided no evidence to back up you claims of any violation of WP:UP. Further, you are insulting me throught the last part of your comment. You need to give me diffs for me to verify anything. Without them, you have left me in the dark.--Coldplay Expért Let's talk 01:40, 31 December 2009 (UTC)
- I'm sorry, but I find it hard to believe you when you say that I said one thing when I in fact said something entirely different. Again, please read my entire post before getting back to me. If you wish me to point out your fallacies, in light of not being able to find them yourself, then just ask.— Dædαlus Contribs 01:35, 31 December 2009 (UTC)
- I have read the whole thing. But you have failed to provide diffs for your accusations. All that you have shown is that she removed a whole section, nothing else.--Coldplay Expért Let's talk 01:33, 31 December 2009 (UTC)
- Are you seriously reading selective parts of my post? Try reading the entire thing before getting back to me, thanks.— Dædαlus Contribs 01:32, 31 December 2009 (UTC)
- First off. It takes a lot to egg me on here but this is rediculous. WP:UP states, and I quote. "Policy does not prohibit users, including both registered and anonymous users, from removing comments from their own talk pages. She did not remove part of a comment but the whole thing. Second, you need to read WP:CIVIL. Dont point out a twig in one's eye when you have a log in yours. Se removed the whole thing and she is allowed to.--Coldplay Expért Let's talk 01:25, 31 December 2009 (UTC)
Alright, first, I'll start by stating things in a summary, then I'll explicitly cite and explain:
First of all, I stated that Mal is not allowed to lie in edit summaries. You then come on the page defending Mal, saying that she can remove posts and other things. I correct you, saying that she cannot do specific things, and again refer to my above statement. You fail to listen and again put words in my mouth.
Now for the explicit explanation:
I stated, to Mal, that she is not allowed to Lie in edit summaries, as she did here. You come defending her, stating that she can do whatever she wants with messages on it, citing WP:UP. I clarify to you, that she can not indeed do anything she wants with any messages. I state what she cannot do with messages. I do not state that she perpetrated any of the described acts. Further, I never stated that she was not allowed to remove messages.
You then quote policy at me again, putting words in my mouth again while calling me blind, citing WP:CIVIL(talk about double standards). I tell you to make sure you've read my entire post, because it was quite obvious you weren't reading it, otherwise the aforementioned points would be obvious to you.
You wrongly state that you have read the post, even telling me that I didn't back up my accusation(even though I quite clearly did, when I cited her lying in an edit).
I express rightful disbelief at your fallacy of having read my post, per my points above.
Therefore, I stand by my statement that you have not read my post. You are quite obviously assuming and reading into my posts, instead of reading them explicitly, as I have asked of you. So again. Read my post, please, before responding any further.— Dædαlus Contribs 01:57, 31 December 2009 (UTC)
- Look. You have failed to give me a diff where she removed a fraction of a comment not the whole thing. I agree that she lied in the ES but Im sure that she's sorry ok?--Coldplay Expért Let's talk 02:05, 31 December 2009 (UTC)
- Are you seriously not reading my posts? Alright, then, I'll try a different tactic. Tell me where I said she refactored any posts. Cite me a diff, but here, I'll do the work for you: I didn't, I simply told you that you were wrong when you said she could do anything. I told you what she can specifically not do, I did not say she did anything, so please, read my post and stop assuming. In fact, I'm sure I've seen you on IRC before, can you perhaps get on freenode and message me? It will be easier to discuss this, my nick is Daedalus969, on irc.freenode.net.— Dædαlus Contribs 02:08, 31 December 2009 (UTC)
- And I honestly don't care if she's sorry or not, however, I do care about you apologizing for putting words in my mouth and not reading my posts.— Dædαlus Contribs 02:10, 31 December 2009 (UTC)
- You cannot have seen me on IRC as I have never been there. As for the second part. Sorry. Now can we please end this drama? (asks nicely)--Coldplay Expért Let's talk 02:12, 31 December 2009 (UTC)
- First, since this is my talk page: Lied? Perhaps wrote the wrong word as in 'added' instead of 'deleted.' Innocent mistake. Rare to write 'deleted' common to write 'added.' Therefore, no prima fascia evidence exists to substantiate the accusation of lying. And second, what's the guy doing coming around to check on edit summaries in the first place? He leaves a rude message, I delete it, end of story, until he comes back to make trouble over it. We are not making trouble here. Nobody is lying, or failing to see anything except Daedalus969. So listen to this Daedalus969: If you come back to my talk page, I will take you to the AN/I noticeboard. There is plenty here to get you blocked. You are harassing me beyond the pale. This is my notification/wikipedia warning per the rules to you, Daedalus969, go home to your page. Stay off mine.Malke2010 02:17, 31 December 2009 (UTC)
- Given your past incivility to other users, lying didn't seem out of the question for you. Now that that is clarified, I don't care. Even if you weren't lying, you now know that you cannot lie in edit summaries. The same goes for marking non-minor edits as minor, as I have seen OTHER(this if for you, CE), NOT YOU, users do in the past. Secondly I am not failing to see anything, I am reading things quite clearly, unlike Coldplay, who assumed things of me and wrongly put words in my mouth, so your accusation of blindless is a breach of WP:CIVIL, and unwarranted given the above information. Lastly, good luck with the ANI post. I have left a total of 4 messages to you, none of them hostile, all of them blunt. I first linked you to an explanation of what a diff was. That was a while ago, I don't remember when. I then told you that you are not allowed to tell anyone to stay out of a discussion. You deleted that, and I came here about your edit summary that I interpreted as a lie, given your past personal attacks of yours at other users, and those blocks for said personal attacks. Lastly, I came here to reply to you about the edit summary, as you left a message on my talk page asking for clarification. That leaves 4 messages to you, so there is no way in hell you can even claim that I was harassing you. The other 90% of this discussion was not directed to you, I was talking with CE, who refused to discuss his inability to read my posts on his talk page, and insisted on discussing it here. I don't expect you to apologize for the insult of the inability to see, but for shits and giggles, let's see if you can actually back up that accusation. Let's not forget, unsubstantiated accusations are personal attacks. I'm sure this would be a very interesting thing to note in your ANI report of me, given your past of personal attacks.— Dædαlus Contribs 02:30, 31 December 2009 (UTC)
- First, since this is my talk page: Lied? Perhaps wrote the wrong word as in 'added' instead of 'deleted.' Innocent mistake. Rare to write 'deleted' common to write 'added.' Therefore, no prima fascia evidence exists to substantiate the accusation of lying. And second, what's the guy doing coming around to check on edit summaries in the first place? He leaves a rude message, I delete it, end of story, until he comes back to make trouble over it. We are not making trouble here. Nobody is lying, or failing to see anything except Daedalus969. So listen to this Daedalus969: If you come back to my talk page, I will take you to the AN/I noticeboard. There is plenty here to get you blocked. You are harassing me beyond the pale. This is my notification/wikipedia warning per the rules to you, Daedalus969, go home to your page. Stay off mine.Malke2010 02:17, 31 December 2009 (UTC)
- You cannot have seen me on IRC as I have never been there. As for the second part. Sorry. Now can we please end this drama? (asks nicely)--Coldplay Expért Let's talk 02:12, 31 December 2009 (UTC)
Oh, and for more shits and giggles, do tell how I am harassing you beyond the pale, when I was indeed not even talking with you, but another user.— Dædαlus Contribs 02:33, 31 December 2009 (UTC)
- May I make a comment?--Coldplay Expért Let's talk 02:37, 31 December 2009 (UTC)
- No, I'm making a report on the AN/IMalke2010 02:45, 31 December 2009 (UTC)
Norton
I'd characterize it as a self-aggrandizing vandal, sort of like the ones who put in articles that a given actor has dated him or her. 01:08, 31 December 2009 (UTC)
- Some of my favorites are like the ones who add "he is gay" to Ian McKellen articles. Like we didn't have a clue! I'm good. I was looking at the sign-up for The Great Wikipedia Dramaout and would love to be a part of that, but I get dragged into drama all the time. I'm good, thanks, how are you? Wildhartlivie (talk) 01:18, 31 December 2009 (UTC)
- I noticed that. Well, you haven't really arrived here until someone yells at you for something, thus a dramaout. This seems more picayune than usual, though. I thought it was funny. I was once congratulated by an administrator for working in the word "dude" in an edit summary. Keep a sense of humor, you know. Wildhartlivie (talk) 01:35, 31 December 2009 (UTC)
- Yes, here. I was actually encouraged to repeat it [21] [22] [23]. Don't sweat the small things. Wildhartlivie (talk) 01:57, 31 December 2009 (UTC)
- You're quite welcome. You might consider making a WP:WQA report on what is going on, too, including the personal attack warning you were given. Sheesh. Fighting across talk pages. Talk later. Wildhartlivie (talk) 03:07, 31 December 2009 (UTC)
- Yes, here. I was actually encouraged to repeat it [21] [22] [23]. Don't sweat the small things. Wildhartlivie (talk) 01:57, 31 December 2009 (UTC)
- I noticed that. Well, you haven't really arrived here until someone yells at you for something, thus a dramaout. This seems more picayune than usual, though. I thought it was funny. I was once congratulated by an administrator for working in the word "dude" in an edit summary. Keep a sense of humor, you know. Wildhartlivie (talk) 01:35, 31 December 2009 (UTC)
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Welcome to Wikipedia. Although everyone is welcome to contribute constructively to the encyclopedia, we would like to remind you not to attack other editors, as you did on User talk:Coldplay Expert. Please comment on the contributions and not the contributors. Take a look at the welcome page to learn more about contributing to this encyclopedia. Thank you. Slandering me on another user's talk page? Are you serious? His arguments were in no way well-reasoned; I indeed have to ask if you even bothered to read mine. He falsely asserted that I said something which I did not. You want me to leave you alone? Stop insulting me behind my back. — Dædαlus Contribs 02:39, 31 December 2009 (UTC)
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- Not here either. See this thread. --ThejadefalconSing your songThe bird's seeds 03:05, 31 December 2009 (UTC)
stop, take a deep breath
I warned Daed and this is your warning. Don't continue this here or on any other pages (except WP:WQA, as livie said). WP:NOTTHEM applies- it takes two to tango, and you're not blameless. Okay? tedder (talk) 05:08, 31 December 2009 (UTC)
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