User talk:David notMD

Welcome!

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  The Original Barnstar Thanks for all your efforts on medical articles. Best. Doc James 10 April 2017 (UTC)
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  Tireless Contributor Barnstar Thank you for being a dedicated, smart, and fantastic person in the GA review. I am very impressed with your knowledge and dedication. I hope we can work together in the future. AmericanAir88 12 Novembehank)
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  The Original Barnstar Congratulations on getting Vitamin C to GA status through a fair bit of turbulence! Chiswick Chap 27 November 2017 (UTC)
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  Barnstar of Diligence Thank you for your assistance overseeing the student edits. You help was greatly appreciated! JenOttawa 28 November 2017 (UTC)
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  Barnstar of Life You have made many, many, many significant improvements to medical content here on Wikipedia. You should have been awarded this barnstar a long time ago. The Vitamin C article is exquisite. Barbara (WVS) 7 February 2018 (UTC)
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  The Random Acts of Kindness Barnstar I watched the "Averell Smith" saga unfold at the Teahouse, and wanted to thank you for your time and effort. You set a good example for others to follow... Tribe of Tiger Seconded. Deb 10 March 2018 (UTC)
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  The Compass BarnstarI just wanted to thank you again for all of the help that you have lent me during the process in getting Chromium to FA... UtopianPoyzin 12 October 2018 (UTC)
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  The Random Acts of Kindness Barnstar Awarding you this star because you took the time and care to assist this new contributor with their first article. Your edits and participation encourage me to be a more engaged contributor. Many thanks. MBAWilbins 30 October 2019 (UTC)
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  The Teahouse Barnstar For being the most active editor at the Teahouse. Interstellarity (talk) 20 November 2019 (UTC)
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  The Random Acts of Kindness Barnstar Thank you for your kindness and support! LorriBrown (talk) 02:45, 24 January 2020 (UTC)
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  The Copyeditor's Barnstar Thank you for all of the ref fix on Ann Walker of Lightcliffe Kimdorris (talk) 02:23, 13 February 2020 (UTC)
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  The Editor's Barnstar Thank you very much! Princesse Marissa (talk) 17:03, 2 May 2020 (UTC)
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  Brilliant Idea Barnstar Thank you! Roccie (talk) 17:53, 23 May 2020 (UTC)
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  The Teahouse Barnstar I know you already got this award, but I'm going to give it again since you deserve it. Benjamin Borg (Talk) 12:08, 18 October 2020 (UTC)
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  Tireless Contributor Barnstar For your edits to vitamin articles and for bringing Vitamin K to good article status, being responsive to my near endless list of things to change throughout. Well done! Tom (LT) (talk) 00:43, 27 October 2020 (UTC)
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  The Special Barnstar Thanks for helping me out David notMD!!! ILoveCocomelon (talk) 11:21, 7 July 2020 (UTC)

My GA nominations

• Egg allergy (Nov 12, 2017)
• Vitamin C (Nov 27, 2017)
• Milk allergy (Feb 15, 2018)
• Brown-tail moth (July 25, 2018)
• Luna moth (August 17, 2018)
• Red yeast rice (August 15, 2019)
• Folate (October 7, 2019)
• Vitamin B12 (April 24, 2020)
• Pantothenic acid (3 July 2020)
• Niacin (8 August 2020)
• Vitamin K (26 October 2020)
• Fish allergy (8 December 2020)

DYKs I've reviewed (keeping track of)

• West African bichir (used)
• Nemobius sylvestris (used)
• Megachile chomskyi (used)
• Robin Ling (used)
• Harold Basil Christian (used)
• General George Washington Resigning His Commission (used)
• Oriental Basin pocket gopher (used)
• Vel blood group (used)
• Alexandrea Owens (used)
• Non-alcoholic fatty liver disease (used)
• Frog pond effect (used)

And the ones I nominated

• Egg allergy for GA (used 12/5-6/17; on that day, increased daily views by 3,600. Before the DYK ~150 views/day)
• Vitamin C for GA (used 1/10-11/18; on that day, increased daily views by 2,200. Before the DYK ~3,000 views/day)
• I Saw the Figure 5 in Gold for 5X expansion (used 2/20-21/18 with image; on that day, increased daily views by 10,000. Before the DYK ~30 views/day)
• Milk allergy for GA (used 3/14-15/18; on that day increased daily views by 3,000. Before the DYK ~200 views/day)
• Brown-tail moth for GA (used 3/20-21/18; on that day increased daily views by 3,100. Before the DYK ~95 views/day)
• Luna moth for GA (used 9/12-13/18 with image; on that day increased daily views by 8,400. Before the DYK ~700 views/day)
• Vitamin deficiency for 5X DECLINED as not valid 5X expansion; March 2019
• Red yeast rice for GA (used 9/9-10/19; (submitted image not used) on that day increased daily views by 2,200. Before the DYK ~ 300 views/day)
• Folate for GA (used 10/26-27/19; on that day increased daily views by 700 (disappointing). Before the DYK ~ 1,675 views/day)
• Vitamin B12 for GA (used 5/17-18/20; on that day increased daily views by 1,300. Before the DYK ~ 2,700 views/day)
• Pantothenic acid chose to not nominate after raising to GA because there were no interesting facts.
• Niacin for GA (used 8/30-31/20; on that day increased daily views by 3,300. Before the DYK ~ 1,000 views/day)
• Vitamin K chose to not nominate after raising to GA because there were no interesting facts.
• Fish allergy for GA (used 1/4/20; (submitted image not used) on that day increased daily views by 3,600. Before the DYK ~ 20 views/day)

Thank you for being one of Wikipedia's top medical contributors! (2017)

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The 2017 Cure Award

In 2017 you were one of the top ~250 medical editors across any language of Wikipedia. Thank you from Wiki Project Med Foundation for helping bring free, complete, accurate, up-to-date health information to the public. We really appreciate you and the vital work you do! Wiki Project Med Foundation is a user group whose mission is to improve our health content. Consider joining here, there are no associated costs.

Thanks again :-) -- Doc James along with the rest of the team at Wiki Project Med Foundation 03:01, 26 April 2018 (UTC)

It's been fun rooting around in the dark recesses of articles on dietary supplements, nutrients, and such. David notMD (talk) 12:38, 26 April 2018 (UTC)

Thank you for being one of Wikipedia's top medical contributors! (2018)

The 2018 Cure Award

In 2018 you were one of the top ~250 medical editors across any language of Wikipedia. Thank you from Wiki Project Med Foundation for helping bring free, complete, accurate, up-to-date health information to the public. We really appreciate you and the vital work you do! Wiki Project Med Foundation is a user group whose mission is to improve our health content. Consider joining here, there are no associated costs.

Thanks again :-) -- Doc James along with the rest of the team at Wiki Project Med Foundation 17:41, 28 January 2019 (UTC)

Thank you for being one of Wikipedia's top medical contributors! (2019)

please help translate this message into your local language via meta

The 2019 Cure Award

In 2019 you were one of the top ~300 medical editors across any language of Wikipedia. Thank you from Wiki Project Med for helping bring free, complete, accurate, up-to-date health information to the public. We really appreciate you and the vital work you do! Wiki Project Med Foundation is a thematic organization whose mission is to improve our health content. Consider joining here, there are no associated costs.

Thanks again :-) -- Doc James along with the rest of the team at Wiki Project Med Foundation 18:35, 5 March 2020 (UTC)

A new source on Cerebral Folate Deficiency

Good evening, David! I came across a new review article about Cerebral folate deficiency - in your opinion, is this review good enough to be cited/quoted in the CFD article? Review: PMID 30916789 Hope you are doing fine! Cheers from Russia, ---CopperKettle 14:52, 17 April 2019 (UTC)

Definitely a valid ref, and provides info to improve the CFD article. David notMD (talk) 16:37, 17 April 2019 (UTC)

Oh, great! I'm slowly reading this review and am putting some quotes from it at Talk:Cerebral folate deficiency --CopperKettle 17:05, 17 April 2019 (UTC)

Hydrogen Water

Hi David, I added substantial information o the hydrogen water talk page (I will not edit the actual page), including all published human trials using water to separate from the databases which also list inhalation or saline (water is used more than frequently than the other methods, at 40-50% of total trials), 4 review articles, including one just published last week, two of them discussing hydrogen water having a higher effect under a much lower dosage (1/100~). I posted other mainstream media articles with more neutral slants, and posted upfront on my conflict of interest (which I have also posted as my own page to my username, in case it is missed elsewhere). TarnavaA (talk) 16:17, 5 June 2019 (UTC)TarnavaA

Hi David, any feedback on the first draft I posted last week for review is much appreciated (the sections didn't convert properly in the talk page). I detailed my reasoning for including certain sections and stated why my bias and conflict of interest may play a role in inclusions. Appreciated, TarnavaA (talk)TarnavaA —Preceding undated comment added 20:11, 11 June 2019 (UTC)

Hi David thanks for the post on my page, I left another message on my own. As an aside, scientifically it makes more sense to talk about the total body of research on hydrogen therapy, as many trials in rodents and even humans are replicative against the various methods (water, inhalation, saline). That said, I am unsure of the ability to speak more to it as "molecular hydrogen therapy" or something like that, and then it gets murkier talking about each section. It is also not clear when to use which method, if each method will work in each model, etc. It is still very green. Just food for thought. TarnavaA (talk)TarnavaA —Preceding undated comment added 23:12, 11 June 2019 (UTC)

Hi David, just following up on this TarnavaA (talk) 23:52, 23 June 2019 (UTC)TarnavaA

Not sure I can get to it soon. I set up the refs and started working on text, but also replying to a reviewer of one of my Good Article nominations. Maybe I can squeeze in my rewrite of the article tomorrow, but not promising. David notMD (talk) 01:33, 24 June 2019 (UTC)

No problem, appreciate your efforts. Let me know if you're stuck on anything in the literature, etc, I am happy to help. TarnavaA (talk) 20:15, 24 June 2019 (UTC)TarnavaA

Whoever edited your article David ignored all reviews and edits and simply reverted to a few horribly researched media articles.. what a shame. TarnavaA (talk)TarnavaA —Preceding undated comment added 00:22, 22 August 2019 (UTC)

This user deleted your contributions saying they were primary studies (you only referenced reviews...) 18:42, 21 August 2019‎ JzG talk contribs‎ looks like others are complaining about this user on his/her page.. may want to simply revert back to your version. Seems to have happened after someone else improperly added a ton of content. TarnavaA (talk)TarnavaA

Hi David, just pinging you as I added a comprehensive list of all human studies on hydrogen therapy to date, broken down to show replicative work and supportive work. 64 human publications to date + 14 others where post hoc anaylsis show the method dissolved H2 in water. Simply for information for yourself and future editors, not asking they be included TarnavaA (talk)TarnavaA —Preceding undated comment added 18:06, 16 October 2019 (UTC)

Funny

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I just had to dig out one of these old and unused badges and work out how it operated. I just chuckled at this reply of yours. It brightened my evening. Nick Moyes (talk) 23:09, 27 June 2020 (UTC)

Minimal Niacin dose for intramuscular injection enough for a flushing

Thank you for your edits of Niacin. There was a minimal dose specified to produce flushing. However, it was not specified whether it was an oral dose or IM/IV dose. Probably the oral one. If so, we should clarify that. Do you have a good source at hand? Also, it seems that for IM/IV path, even doses as small as 10 mg are enough to produce flushing. Don't you know where can we find the source for that? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Maxim Masiutin (talk • contribs) 20:00, 2 July 2020 (UTC)

In a country where I live (Republic of Moldova), nicotinic acid is only available in pharmacies, as a separate substance, in injectable form only. The oral form is only available in small doses as a vitamin-B complex together with other vitamins. In Russia, situation is the same - the main form is injectable, albeit the tablets of nicotinic acid are avaialable as a serarate substance, the injectable form is more widespread. That's why I have asked to you emphasize on the form of niacin. By the way, I have substantially edited the page https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CYP4F2 today. Could you please review it, maybe you may have some ideas on how can I improve it? Thank you very much in advance for your feedback. -- Maxim Masiutin (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 22:38, 3 July 2020 (UTC)

CYP4F2

Thank you for your suggestions on CYP4F2. I have added the references about the "Chain Shortening", and renamed the section to "Research". I have already had an experience where text with links to in vitro studies about Rutin were reverted. I will try to put them to the separate "Research" section there. -- Maxim Masiutin (talk) 15:47, 4 July 2020 (UTC)

Enzyme induction and inhibition

By the way, I'm very interested, currently, in the wider area of Enzyme induction and inhibition, namely CYPs and UGT. I have edited various Wikipedia articles on them during last few weeks. But the information about this is very limited, and is mostly based on in vitro studies so far. Should you know somebody who is also interested in Enzyme induction and inhibition, please let me know. I have been diagnosed with polymorphism in some genes affecting these enzymes even before genetic tests became available and affordable. If I knew by that time how various substances can inhibit or induce some enzymes, life would have been much better then. Thank you! -- Maxim Masiutin (talk) 16:32, 4 July 2020 (UTC)

My (ancient) schooling was in nutritional biochemistry, and career in health claims for dietary supplements, so no connection to academics. I wish you well for your personal health and Wikipedia editing. David notMD (talk) 16:42, 4 July 2020 (UTC)

Do you have consistent data on absorption of water-soluble vitamin with oral route, particularly, group B vitamins? From what I have found, with B2 (riboflavin), after 27 mg, unspecified ("little") amount is absorbed. I have added the section Riboflavin#Pharmacokinetics and wrote there what I have found. As about B12, Wikipedia currently states the values of (quote) "1% to 5%". However, at Pubmed I have found figures of just "1%" (not to 5%) and another article gave "less than 1%". Other B vitamins seem to have much higher oral absorption rate, from 40% to 90%. But the data, as it is presented in Wikipedia, is not consistent. It would have been useful if the "Pharmacokinetics" section of each vitamin clearly listed the absorption rate of the oral route. Additionally, a table with oral absorption rates would have been useful at the B vitamins page. Do you have some reliable data? -- Maxim Masiutin (talk) 19:27, 4 July 2020 (UTC)

A good set of questions. Addressing will take some work. The book "Present Knowledge in Nutrition" has absorption for each B vitamin. Complex, in that for many, the higher the amount consumed, the lower the percentage. Also matters if food form or as supplement. The last edition of PKiN is 10th = 2012. The 11th is due out this July. I think it would be wise to wait for that before addressing bioavailability, either for the individual articles, or for B vitamins. For niacin, the 8th edition (2001), which is on my desk, has "Nicotinic acid and nicotinamide are rapidly absorbed from the stomach and intestine. At low concentrations absorption occurs as Na+-dependent facilitated diffusion, but at higher concentration passive diffusion predominates. Three to four g of niacin given orally can be almost completely absorbed." David notMD (talk) 20:19, 4 July 2020 (UTC)

We can remove the data, on which we have only partial information, from the Pharmacokinetics section in the articles that are nominated, and put this data to articles that are not nominated. For example, if an article "B vitamins" is not nominated, we can put the data there, until we have the full picture.

I will not be participating until I finish the Niacin Good Article review. David notMD (talk) 10:57, 5 July 2020 (UTC)

Competence is required

Hi David, You helped me out over at the Teahouse a week or two ago. I have a question I’d prefer not to post there at the risk of being misunderstood. I have not interacted with that editor again, but I have kept tabs on their activity. I am wondering if this might be a case where Wikipedia:Competence is required applies. This editor seems to be acting in good faith but by my estimation their contributions don’t meet the standard of competence. As a beginner I realize I may be misinterpreting the rule and overestimating the level of English mastery required to edit Wikipedia, so I’m asking for your opinion as well as any other advice you may have. If I have indeed misunderstood the rule I am happy to drop it. Thanks in advance. Wallnot (talk) 22:08, 5 July 2020 (UTC) Wallnot (talk) 22:08, 5 July 2020 (UTC)

In looking at Machinexa's recent prolific edits, I continue to see a pattern of addition of near-useless information (chemical composition) and adding text with references where the references do not support the text. In many instances has been reverted, and various editors have left cautions on the user's Talk page, but I do not see an improvement in quality (I just did a batch of Undo). More warnings may help, but I suspect this may need Administrator action to block. I will add a caution on M's Talk page. David notMD (talk) 22:35, 5 July 2020 (UTC)

Biotin

I saw that you also edited the Biotin article. I have made a few edits from 28 June 2020 onwards. The essence of the edits is the following. There were information presented in the article that intestinal bacteria synthesize biotin and it is also an additional source for humans. I have removed the statement that it is a source for humans, and found a source that states the opposite. -- Maxim Masiutin (talk) 11:17, 6 July 2020 (UTC)

From Teahouse

I believe the spelling is correct because i know that actor he's a relative to me and my dad told me the spelling of Jaime is wrong it's Jayme. ILoveCocomelon (talk) 18:42, 6 July 2020 (UTC)

Wikipedia requires verification in the form of published content that can be then used as a reference. You found one possible ref, but it had the spelling as Jaime! Unless you can find a reliable source reference, cannot change to Jayme. David notMD (talk) 22:23, 6 July 2020 (UTC)

It's ok though, but thank you so much for helping!!! ILoveCocomelon (talk) 11:19, 7 July 2020 (UTC)

How do I change the page name?

Thanks for your edits to James Fortune, I am new to this :) but there is another James Fortune who is a musician. Is there something we should change the page name to so it doesn't appear like a dupe? They are two different people. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Brandyfortune (talk • contribs) 14:17, 8 July 2020 (UTC)

I noticed ...

an article in a local newspaper, which I'd like to make a brief comment on in "In the media". The question always comes up on whether I should identify the author. It's been suggested to me that you're something of an expert on this question. So whadaya think? Smallbones_(smalltalk) 20:23, 9 July 2020 (UTC)

Not an expert on anything, but if an author is named for an article, I saw include that. A different question is whether a "local newspaper" is a valid reliable source. David notMD (talk) 00:54, 10 July 2020 (UTC)

@Smallbones: Ah... or are you referring to "Maynard in Wikipedia," a column recently published in several Massachusetts newspapers that are in the Gatehouse/Gannett family. In that case, an editor has added a mention of the article on the Talk page of Maynard, Massachusetts. And named me as author. David notMD (talk) 13:17, 10 July 2020 (UTC)

Ultrasonic algae control

Hello David

I have been using the system to control algae myself and for friends in garden and swimming ponds. This is why the page was created with some help of a friend, who cannot assist me anymore.

You commented:

Ref #4 goes to content not relevant to algae. Ref #5 does not work. If you have a COI - for example work in the ultrasound/algae industry, need to state that on your User page. Reviewing of a submitted draft can be days to weeks, but also as long as months. David notMD (talk) 09:07, 12 July 2020 (UTC)

As tried to delete #4 & #5 but could not find out how. Would it be possible for you to amend it to be correct? I really have not much experience in this and appreciate all assistance.

Best regards Chris — Preceding unsigned comment added by SB2BC (talk • contribs) 13:36, 12 July 2020 (UTC)

A beer for you!

I hope you'll accept this though, David not MD... it's thirsty work getting trolled! All the best, ——Serial # 10:59, 13 July 2020 (UTC)

I like beer. David notMD (talk) 15:40, 13 July 2020 (UTC)

/* AFC */ KC Pandey

Hello David! I have tried to make all the changes advised on my draft Draft:K. C. Pandey for which I am really thankful. I have stated on my talk page that there's no WP:COI on my AfC It would really nice of you if you please give a look at the draft & suggest If its ok to get published or it's still lacking something. I do understand the time constraint with you but at the same time I must admit that directly jumping on AfC was a mistake but it was inspired by Biography of https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ranbir_Chander_Sobti .I read all about AfC and considered myself good enough to go for it. But now after kind guidance & repeated amendments & changes, I feel the draft good enough to be published. I will be obliged if you please give 1 more look & suggest. I am still learning so I accept I must be making a lot more mistakes compared to others, but wont take long to understand the process now. Thanks once again & eagerly waiting to listen from you. Shekhar in (talk) 17:18, 13 July 2020 (UTC)

Thank you for your suggestions. I'm new to editing.

Hi David notMD, Thanks for your comments on my articles. I've been asked to guest edit this month by our university in order to add more NL artists to the Wiki but being new, and without any training, it's been a struggle. The formatting of the help is a bit of a challenge to new users as well. Thanks for your suggestions. I've stopped working on them until I can get a clearer handle on it. Ruth Lawrence — Preceding unsigned comment added by RuthieLawrence (talk • contribs) 18:45, 13 July 2020 (UTC)

Nonprofit Financial Data

Greetings, Thanks for helping with the article I've been updating on Family Caregiver Alliance. It needed a lot since it has had a template notice on there for 10 years. I deal a lot with financial data and see IRS 990s used frequently for that on many nonprofit pages since there are very rarely other sources. I understand the idea about using few primary sources and "no independent research" -- but there seriously are no other ways to find that data. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ihaveadreamagain (talk • contribs) 20:19, 21 July 2020 (UTC) Oops, forgot to sign -- I read this on WP:Primarysources and still think the 990 meets the requirement: "Policy: Unless restricted by another policy, primary sources that have been reputably published may be used in Wikipedia, but only with care, because it is easy to misuse them. Any interpretation of primary source material requires a reliable secondary source for that interpretation. A primary source may be used on Wikipedia only to make straightforward, descriptive statements of facts that can be verified by any educated person with access to the primary source but without further, specialized knowledge. Ihaveadreamagain 20:24, 21 July 2020 (UTC)

Thank you!

I wanted to thank you for this edit. One of the nicest things anybody has said about me on Wikipedia since I started editing many long years ago. It is nice to see my work has not gone unnoticed. Finally good luck, I am stepping out of this specific fight since for the first time in my editing career I feel the person may actually try to figure out who I am and out me. Not that I have anything to hide but I also have a life outside of Wikipedia that I don't want disturbed by my hobby of editing Wikipedia.--VViking_TalkEdits 13:42, 29 September 2020 (UTC)

Regarding changes to PICHENOTTE

Hello David, I have made a draft per SMcCandlish at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:ThreeVictors/Draft:Pichenotte Do you feel these changes are best left there for review or should I make them to the page ? This is all so new to me ! I am not sure it wouldn't be a bad idea to delete the page and start over. Am I being to passive ? What do you recommend ? Do you have time to look at the suggestions ? Thank you — Preceding unsigned comment added by ThreeVictors (talk • contribs) 02:14, 30 September 2020 (UTC)

Pichenotte article

Hello David not MD. I have made suggestions and references at ThreeVictors (talk)

I hope I am posting this at the correct place, but probably not !ThreeVictors (talk)

Greetings, and I would like to offer my opinion. I think it best to delete the PICHENOTTE entry. Although some of what is on there is correct, it is of very limited scope and limited value. If a credible editor or team of editors can do some research and bring forth an accurate and inclusive entry, it would be great. The current entry lacks citations and credibility.

AQJP seems a defunct and archived website and yet it is the only cited website and reference. I hope that can change if a credible editor or group of editors researches the word and brings forth an accurate, useful and inclusive entry. Thanks. DVQuebecDVQuebec (talk) 15:12, 7 October 2020 (UTC)

Please can you tell me if I have actually done something wrong

Hi David. If you look at Ed Gold again, you'll see that all the images have gone and I feel harassed, especially at WT:WikiProject_Military_history#Please_free_free_to_use_excellent_new_photographs_by_Ed_Gold. Can you identify any problem around COPYVIO and if so help me get over it? Thanks. Also, do you have admin rights? I'm looking for someone to red-lock the page at [1], which I created yesterday as a redirect, in an experiment that I think will be a good solution for accounts that are accepted as being WP:BLP -linked. Ed gave me permission to do this and I'd like to propose the idea as a future general solution (obviously, after a similar process as Commons use for OTRS). Mike Turnbull (talk) 11:53, 17 October 2020 (UTC)

Michael D. Turnbull I am not a Admin. Nick-D explained why the photos in question were removed from Ed Gold and has explained to you the process of clearing copyright at that Talk and on Nick-D's Talk. Wikipedia and Wikipedia Commons have a long-standing and rigorous process for vetting copyright. For the Gold article, clear copyright for each image individually and add back. David notMD (talk) 12:05, 17 October 2020 (UTC)

Personally, my opinion about your desire to put dozens and dozens of Gold's photos into Commons with the hope that other editors (or you) can then add them to articles verges on promotional. If you strongly believe that individual photos have merit for specific articles, then clear the copyright, put in Commons, and add to articles. Please tell Gold that this means anyone, anywhere, for any purpose, can take those photos from Commons and use for their own purposes, and will likely do so without crediting Gold. David notMD (talk) 12:13, 17 October 2020 (UTC)

Yes, he and I are clear on that. That's why I had some problem persuading him to release them under CC BY-SA 4.0. He has done so willingly because we are uploading only relatively low-resolution images that could not be used commercially and even if they were without crediting him he could sue and prove the master copies were his. I have not been adding the photos to articles other than Ed Gold and then only sparingly. Instead, I've been encouraging other editors to do so by adding comments at relevant project talk pages (military history and Australia so far). Mike Turnbull (talk) 12:20, 17 October 2020 (UTC)

It turns out (see military history talk page) that Ed and I did nothing wrong. Only the OTRS people can add their tag to images. While they have done so for the ones I uploaded first, they are behind with others, for obvious reasons. At least there is now some "customer clamour" to have this done. Thank for your interest. Mike Turnbull (talk) 13:52, 17 October 2020 (UTC)

Please inform Mr. Gold that there are many websites which take content from Wikipedia, and often without credit. There are a few that even take draft content at Wikipedia - not yet reviewed and approved - and post it, basically front-running Wikipedia. Suing to stop any such use would be a fool's errand. Be aware that Wikipedia articles about photographers tend to NOT have multiple examples of their work. Fashion photographer examples: Richard Avedon, Helmut Newton, Francesco Scavullo, Herb Ritts, Gleb Derujinsky, Peter Lindbergh, Patrick Demarchelier, Steven Meisel, Mario Testino and Annie Leibovitz David notMD (talk) 14:06, 17 October 2020 (UTC)

Good points for @EddieLeVisco:. He never suggested suing, that was my somewhat tongue-in-cheek idea: I don't think he's the sort to resort to the law courts as he has better things to do off-grid, I guess. Mike Turnbull (talk) 14:19, 17 October 2020 (UTC)

Help with Vitamin D

Hi David notMD, I notice you are somewhat expert, and a frequent contributor to Vitamin D. I recently posted on the talk page and was hoping for a response from you, on the right criteria to be used to assess content for inclusion in the article (specifically the growing understanding of the relationship between Vitamin D levels and COVID outcomes). Thanks.Tvaughan1 (talk) 23:26, 23 October 2020 (UTC)

Can you help?

I am not prompted, or fed, or promoting. And the article is not self-promoting on the part of the subject, who is interesting neither in finding students nor anyone's money. Can you help me consider what to delete that may save the article? Per ColinFine, I've read and reread all guidelines. I know it is a tough article given slim resources, but i read that sometimes the ones I've found are acceptable. If I delete the majority of all of it... would that help? thank you Onganymede (talk) 23:20, 31 October 2020 (UTC)

Onganymede I could recommend deleting all of the quotations and the Interviews section and any hyperlinks in the article, but the key point is that ALL of the references are to content written by Gold, YouTube (not considered a source that conveys notability), an interview (same), or an organization started by Gold. Unless there are people not in any way affiliated with Gold who have published stuff about him, there is no potential for this article to survive the AfD process. You are welcome to leave a comment there, or even recommend Keep, with your reasons. In a week or so an Administrator will make a decision. Being a non-profit organization does not exempt from Wikipedia criteria. David notMD (talk) 00:31, 1 November 2020 (UTC)

Thank you much for taking the time to reply with these details. If I chop it way down, would you mind looking again and commenting? If yes, is this where I could prompt you? Onganymede (talk) 00:55, 1 November 2020 (UTC)

If you respond here I will see it. A place to state that you do not have a conflict of interest (WP:COI) or are paid (WP:PAID) is on your own Talk page. The prime failure of the article is no independent refs establishing notability. Interviews do not count. If you cannot find refs not written by Gold, no amount of revision can save this. David notMD (talk) 01:19, 1 November 2020 (UTC)

D., per your suggestion I wrote on my talk page about COI and $. I found references, deleted much copy, restructured the rest. Would you look again? I have tried to eliminate partiality. Please tell me where it is still evident/problematic. Too much "spirituality"? I'll delete that section. Too wordy? I'll chop again. I hope it can be made "good enough" - with the new sources and the rest. Please inform... Also, you suggested deleting hyper links -- I read it was good to have, but will delete if better. Many thanks for your time and I hope this finds you well.Onganymede (talk) 03:48, 2 November 2020 (UTC)

Articles should have Wikilinks, i.e., links in the text to other Wikipedia articles, but not hyperlinks to websites outside Wikipedia. Those should be managed as references. David notMD (talk) 11:30, 2 November 2020 (UTC)

Better. I made a few changes, and at the deletion discussion left a comment that this could be converted to a draft, to allow for more work. David notMD (talk) 11:47, 2 November 2020 (UTC)

David notMD Oh,just saw this... Not sure how/where to keep up on all comments...keep finding and writing in different places/talk pages. Thank you for your assistance. I see it all now. So, I found and added nearly all new refs, but apparently not good enough. Dunno if I have any options left other than more deletions until just a skeleton. Sad but ok with me if we can just make it: Author, 4 books. Done... ? Onganymede (talk) 10:32, 4 November 2020 (UTC)

Kaya toast article

Hi DavidnotMD, thank you for your help! I will be adding other references to replace Lee 2008. My tutor and I was going to go over the referencing problem next week but it seems you beat us to it. Thank you so much for your help. I will be more careful in the future. Pinklily08 (talk) 06:40, 6 November 2020 (UTC)

Rotea Gilford draft article

Thank you for the courtesy of your reply. I wish someone had spoken up sooner. I will take your comments to heart - and deeply do appreciate the specifics - and I will do some major surgery. Kilitzianf (talk) 20:41, 8 November 2020 (UTC)

help with article about Harvard Bioengineer?

I see you are a member of Wikipedia:WikiProject Chemical and Bio Engineering Can you help me review a series of updates to the article about the Harvard bio-engineer David Edwards (engineer). I work for his company Sensory Cloud, which is developing a Covid hygiene prophylactic using aerosolized calcium fortified saline. Talk:David Edwards (engineer)#Request Edit Nov 5 2020 Thanks for your consideration. PC7956

Cleaned up a bit. One weakness is ref #2 (for academic career) is his own website. Another is the Fox news ref is a dead link. David notMD (talk) 17:02, 9 November 2020 (UTC)

Crown (Anatomy) Article

Hello David notMD, I was just wondering what you changed and fixed in the crown (anatomy article). Thanks alot Physiotherapist1234 (talk) 12:56, 12 November 2020 (UTC)

For any article, clicking on View history at the top menu shows chronological list of edits. (A number in green is bytes added. A number in red is bytes removed.) For each line, clicking on prev at left side shows what was added or removed. Clicking on the date in the line opens the article with the change incorporated. David notMD (talk) 18:41, 12 November 2020 (UTC)

Thank you for fixing up the references and editing the work. I appreciate the help :) Physiotherapist1234 (talk) 23:21, 12 November 2020 (UTC)

Hello, I was just wondering, what can I change to Gorham Disease in order to leave it in my article? Thank you very much Physiotherapist1234 (talk) 01:03, 17 November 2020 (UTC)

If you want it back, put it back by going to View history and reverting my deletion. I will not delete it again. Still my opinion that a description of a very, very, rare disease is of no useful value in an anatomy article. David notMD (talk) 05:11, 17 November 2020 (UTC)

I really do appreciate your opinions and your help. I was looking into it and thought it might give a good insight into the rare issues assocated with the crown. But, I still do thank you for your help :) Physiotherapist1234 (talk) 05:39, 17 November 2020 (UTC)

Was my edit valid?

Piperlongumine Machinexa (talk) 17:50, 4 December 2020 (UTC)

Machinexa (talk) 17:50, 4 December 2020 (UTC)

In my opinion the article should be nominated at Articles for Deletion, as none of the referencing meets MEDRS. David notMD (talk) 18:09, 4 December 2020 (UTC)

Machinexa Alternative is to remove all those references and find references that are about the compound, with no mention of any putative health effects. David notMD (talk) 03:08, 5 December 2020 (UTC)

Osteoporosis and Dairy

Hi! Nice to see your name pop up on my watch list. I hope that you are doing alright and managing to stay healthy. There are some suggested article improvements that you may be able to help with related to dairy and osteoporosis here. It looks like a few others are now helping as well, I just wanted to let you know in case you see additional problems. Take good care! JenOttawa (talk) 19:02, 18 December 2020 (UTC)

JenOttawa I will look at the article and relevant Talk, but will not edit the article directly, as I have an old but relevant COI (I was working for National Dairy Council in the Research Dept back in the mid-80s, when NDC was funding a lot of the research). Other than that, healthy, waiting for vaccination, long-term Wikipedia project is to raise all vitamin articles to GA. Six done, seven to go. I dread tackling Vitamin D. David notMD (talk) 20:17, 18 December 2020 (UTC)

Thanks for offering to look. I am glad that you are keeping well. Congrats on your progress so far on the vitamin articles!JenOttawa (talk) 01:59, 19 December 2020 (UTC)

I think we were just trolled

Seeing your post at the Teahouse alerted me to look. Of course I have blocked George Maverick indefinitely now. But I'm fairly sure now that everything this user did was one elaborate troll act, for "lulz". There's no way, after his posts there, and at his talk page, that he could have create that direct copy and paste sandbox and be for real.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk)

DYK for Fish allergy

On 4 January 2021, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Fish allergy, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that people with fish allergy are unlikely to be allergic to shellfish, because fish and shellfish do not have the same allergenic protein? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Fish allergy. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Fish allergy), and if they received a combined total of at least 416.7 views per hour (ie, 5,000 views in 12 hours or 10,000 in 24), the hook may be added to the statistics page. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 00:01, 4 January 2021 (UTC)

I see that you have edited this sandbox before

User:Cholmes58/sandbox has an attempted infobox. I removed the "nowiki" tags, but I don't often fix badly broken infoboxes. If you know how they should be marked up, would you please give it a look? Thanks.--Quisqualis (talk) 02:06, 5 January 2021 (UTC)

I have zero skill on infoboxes. And yet, I have managed something. David notMD (talk) 04:02, 5 January 2021 (UTC)

Thiamine

Could you please add and put reliable sources on oral bioavailability and elimination half-life (preferably oral, IM, IV) for Thiamine. I did some edits but could not find good sources. 08:56, 8 January 2021 (UTC)

WikiProject Medicine Newsletter - January 2021

Issue 8—January 2021

WikiProject Medicine Newsletter

2020 is behind us at last. Off Wikipedia, the year has been trying. On Wikipedia, I hope you've found the time you spent here fulfilling and diverting. I've taken the opportunity to place a few end-of-year statistics for reflection below. If you think of any data that would be useful to find (or begin gathering) to gauge the project's success, please let me know. With that, here is what's happening around the project:

Newly recognized content

Buruli ulcer nom. Ajpolino, my first successful FAC Anatomical terms of location nom. Tom (LT), reviewed by ArnabSaha and Aircorn Fish allergy nom. David notMD, reviewed by Bibeyjj Blood culture nom. Spicy, reviewed by Graham Beards Epidural administration nom. Berchanhimez, reviewed by Bibeyjj Charles Bingham Penrose nom. Larry Hockett, reviewed by Esculenta

Nominated for review

Louise Boursier nom. Doug Coldwell Late onset congenital adrenal hyperplasia nom. Maxim Masiutin Friedreich's ataxia nom. Akrasia25 Kivu Ebola epidemic nom. Ozzie10aaaa UPMC Presbyterian nom. Andrew nyr Crown (anatomy) nom. Bibeyjj, under review by MeegsC Alzheimer's disease Notice of impending featured article review at talk. Management of multiple sclerosis Notice of impending FAR at talk. Major depressive disorder Notice of impending FAR at talk.

Year in Review
With 2020 now in the rear view mirror, a few numbers to give a sense of where our project is at: In 2020 we added a record number of medicine articles (i.e. articles with the WP:MED tag on their talk pages), starting the year with 41,243 and ending with 45,247. The ~4,000 new articles is well above the norm, presumably due to new covid-related articles. In terms of reviewed content, we added three featured articles (Dementia with Lewy bodies, Complete blood count, and Buruli ulcer), and lost three to the ravages of time, leaving our total at 66. We also added 42 newly reviewed good articles from 23 different nominators, bringing our total to 296. See a full list of reviewed content from 2020 here. Outside of reviewed content our contributions are more challenging to measure. I'm sure much our time was spent making small improvements, guiding new editors, removing junk from articles, and dealing with the raging global pandemic (on and off the site). I am interested in ways we can quantify and assess our project's progress going forward, so if anyone has ideas for other data we could find or collect, do let me know.

Other notes

• The WMF's Community Wishlist Survey has ended. Results are posted here.
• If you missed it, consider reading folks' thoughts on helping new editors at this recent WT:MED discussion.
• After a quieter month at the Collaboration of the Month (Dexamethasone), we'll be taking this month off. The COTM will return in February. Propose and vote on nominations here.
• Thanks to all who helped deal with last month's backlog, medicine articles that cite no sources. 28 down, 382 to go. We'll pick a new backlog next month. In the meantime, for any interested, I've posted an updated list of articles that lack sources here.

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Response to Puppet Account

Hi David, I have responded to your question about "puppet account". i can mention that here too. I do not own the other account and only own this account. This is my real name and can provide Govt. Issued Id(s) if needed. Thanking You, Desmond Maverick (talk) 02:15, 10 January 2021 (UTC).

I am not the editor who started the sockpuppet investigation. David notMD (talk) 03:20, 10 January 2021 (UTC)

Draft Sandeep Kumar Mishra

No,I am not getting paidWorkhardalltime (talk) 09:15, 11 January 2021 (UTC)

Fixed your TEA link

Hello, This edit at WP:TEA caused the entire page after it to lose section edit links due to the unterminated link; fixed it for you (and added your sig). Cheers, Mathglot (talk) 03:02, 16 January 2021 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Biotin

Hi there, I'm pleased to inform you that I've begun reviewing the article Biotin you nominated for GA-status according to the criteria. This process may take up to 7 days. Feel free to contact me with any questions or comments you might have during this period. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of HaEr48 -- HaEr48 (talk) 22:00, 16 January 2021 (UTC)

Draft of Amanda Brock

Hi DavidNotMD, thank you for your helpful edit on the draft page of Amanda Brock, I was just wondering what I can do to improve my chances of getting the page approved - i have followed yours and DDG's suggestions and was hoping if you could review again (if you get a chance). Many thanks Amurphy79 (talk) 10:19, 19 January 2021 (UTC) Amurphy79 I move stuff around. Consider deleting the second paragraph of Career, as her roles in those companies do not appear to add to her notability. Wikipedia is not a CV. Ref #10 does not name her as past CEO of Trustable. David notMD (talk) 10:33, 19 January 2021 (UTC) Thank you! I have done that, I understand what you mean. Hopefully looking okay now? Amurphy79 (talk) 12:03, 19 January 2021 (UTC)