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International fame (1982–present)
International fame (1982–present)
Section needs to be expanded for 30+ year timeline. [[User:MorningMrBond|MorningMrBond]] ([[User talk:MorningMrBond|talk]]) 03:28, 3 October 2010 (UTC) (new user)
Section needs to be expanded for 30+ year timeline. [[User:MorningMrBond|MorningMrBond]] ([[User talk:MorningMrBond|talk]]) 03:28, 3 October 2010 (UTC) (new user)

We could expand to include that Lagerfeld is credited for designing the Fendi logo? Sources for this are here <ref>https://www.famouslogos.net/fendi-logo/</ref>


== Personal life ==
== Personal life ==

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Working life

In the Personal info Fendi should also be added except Karl Lagerfeld and Chanel, as he is head designer there too. I don't know how too edit this myself.

International fame (1982–present) Section needs to be expanded for 30+ year timeline. MorningMrBond (talk) 03:28, 3 October 2010 (UTC) (new user)[reply]

We could expand to include that Lagerfeld is credited for designing the Fendi logo? Sources for this are here [1]

Personal life

Is the weight loss and ipod trivia all that is known about his adult personal life?--92.226.137.217 (talk) 15:55, 19 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Under the heading "Early life" it is stated that Karls lastname was Lagerfeldt and that he later changed it. Yet in the first section it says Karl Lagerfeld (born Karl Otto Lagerfeld; September 10, 1933). It should be (born Karl Otto Lagerfeldt). Small but important change. 81.170.156.146 (talk) 18:31, 7 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Asexual claim

Should the claim that he is asexual be removed? It is unsourced and it may violate the strict guidelines on WP:Biographies of living persons Cambrasa 23:12, 12 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Resolved, I have just tracked down a source for the claim [1] and will add it. Cambrasa 23:15, 12 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

oh come on just look at him, he's gay as a summer hat —Preceding unsigned comment added by 62.16.239.160 (talk) 07:37, 1 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

His NNDB page is (apart from this talk page), the only place I've seen it stated that he's asexual. However, Cliff Richard's NNDB page states that he's asexual, but we all know what his orientation really is! Werdnawerdna (talk) 00:03, 5 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

NY Times (good source - NNDB is hardly a primary source) says his "great love" was Jacques de Bascher, who had previously been the object of Yves Saint Laurent's obsession, though Lagerfeld more recently says he did not have a physical relationship with de Bascher. Yves of Destruction, December 24, 2000--Larrybob (talk) 15:57, 5 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Lagerfeld is from the old-time generation, still in the closet.76.17.118.157 (talk) 18:06, 10 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Lagerfeld's "asexual" comment was in reference to his current sexual state as a man in his late 70's. Like most men his age, he's no longer interested or even physically capable of sexual intercourse. Hence, he's "asexual". To say that Karl Lagerfeld is "in the closet" is a rather bizarre claim. He discusses Paris's gay scene that he was very much a part of in his youth in great detail in his Diet Book.Bogan444 (talk) 17:19, 21 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
So I suppose these are two straight men in this picture.[2] 84.244.183.120 (talk) 17:51, 2 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Date of birth

apparently his DoB is not necessarily in 1933. [3] SCRA5071 (talk) 05:30, 10 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

this doesn't make sense:

"He has alleged he was born in 1938 however it has been reported that he was actually born in 1938" —Preceding unsigned comment added by Preauxx (talk • contribs) 13:51, 11 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]


His schoolmates were all born in 1932 or 1933 so it is possible that he was too smart in school and made a 5 year jump haha — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.113.99.138 (talk) 00:38, 11 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

This date of birth issue is causing errors to arise under the "Career" subsection, the first sentence of which states: "In 1955, after living in Paris for two years, Lagerfeld entered a coat design competition sponsored by the International Wool Secretariat at the age of sixteen." If he were indeed born in 1933, then he would have been in his 20's during this competition. So either the date of the competition or his age during the competition or his 'conclusively proven" birth year of 1933 is incorrect. — Preceding unsigned comment added by KajHansen (talk • contribs) 06:51, 20 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

What's with all the high collars?

Every photo I've seen he has those on. Is it for a practical reason or just more of a fetish? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.193.228.246 (talk) 07:31, 15 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Hides chicken neck. 84.244.183.120 (talk) 17:43, 2 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Work

Why doesn't this article reference his work with Chanel? Violetbeau (talk) 03:00, 5 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Why doesn't this article reference Kimora Lee (Perkins) Simmons? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.117.207.76 (talk) 04:57, 29 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Karl Lagerfeld has been the Chief Designer at Channel since 1983. It is the most significant aspect of his professional career and the thing that has brought him international fame. To have a Karl Lagerfeld entry without mentioning Channel is like talking about Babe Ruth without mentioning the New York Yankees.Bogan444 (talk) 17:45, 21 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

When did "helm" (as "helms") become a verb? Evil Prince (talk) 13:09, 13 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

His father's nationality

Can someone explain these sentences? "Karl's father is from Vladivostok, Russia; his mother is from Berlin, Germany (according to "Lagerfeld Confidential", Marconi Rodolphe, 2006). Though Lagerfeld has stated that his father was Swedish, journalist Alicia Drake in The Beautiful Fall (Little, Brown, 2006) established that Karl's father, Otto Lagerfeldt, who worked as a distributor at a company introducing condensed milk to Germany, was indeed German" So, was his father Russian, Swedish or German? Vladivostok is quite far from Germany btw.Aaker (talk) 17:08, 10 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Karl has always claimed his father was Swedish, but Karl sometimes lies about his past so one needs to take that with a grain of salt. Independent researches have concluded his father was most likely German. The city where a man happened to be born does not affect his nationality. Vladivostok was a major port city on the Pacific Ocean and had a multi-ethnic population until the Communists expelled the non-Russians in the late 20th Century. Hope that helps.Bogan444 (talk) 17:51, 21 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Just saw the Karl Lagerfeld: Un Roi Seul / Karl Lagerfeld: Lonely King documentary. Here they said that his father was Danish... I'll update the main article to reflect this... Hertell (talk) 20:19, 17 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Anti-gay marriage comments

http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/2010/04/09/karl-lagerfeld-speaks-sex-marriage-gay-parents/ 76.17.118.157 (talk) 18:04, 10 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Pirelli calendar

He also shot the 2011 famous pirelli calender with famous models. Maybe worthy to mention. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.54.157.44 (talk) 19:07, 1 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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Sexual orientation

I have removed the "gay men" category which was not supported by the article's content or by references. It seems that his sexual orientation is a complicated issue; compare for example the footnote here which cites various sources on this topic. Huon (talk) 19:18, 19 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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né Lagerfeldt ?

Lagerfeld's parents announced the birth of their son Karl Otto in 1933

I think his parents should have known his correct birthname and they clearly write Lagerfeld without that "t" at the ending. 2A02:8108:1340:5E70:497F:63D2:A37:11FD (talk) 15:49, 19 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Very surprising given that his father's name was Lagerfeld. This is unsourced, or at least the article even goes on to suggest this was based on the mis-information that his father was Swedish. Also no mention at all in the de:wiki article. Suggest it is removed from both the lead and the infobox. Martinevans123 (talk) 16:05, 19 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Martinevans123, it's in the BBC source within the lead, the source was moved to the end of the parentheses for some reason. Karl Lagerfeld also stated that his father's name was Otto Ludwig Lagerfeldt, suggesting that both used "Lagerfeld" as public name. Lordtobi (✉) 16:08, 19 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]
I see. Easily missed. There still seems to be some contradiction with the parents' names used in the article text. Perhaps an explicit explanatory footnote would help the reader? Thanks for explaining. Martinevans123 (talk) 16:16, 19 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Lagerfeld himself couldn't remember his date of birth and made a mystery around the exact year (1938, 1935). He loved to create such "stories" (like the Swedish background) and these hoaxes are sometimes repeated even by reliable sources. 2A02:8108:1340:5E70:497F:63D2:A37:11FD (talk) 16:18, 19 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Here are some sources regarding his father's background, his name was Lagerfeld Otto Lagerfeld Biography; Otto Lagerfeld Hamburgische Biografie Band 2, Otto Lagerfeld, Hamburger Abendblatt 19. September 1956 2A02:8108:1340:5E70:497F:63D2:A37:11FD (talk) 16:27, 19 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Oh. So it seems that we, along with the BBC, are just posthumously indulging Lagerfeld in one of his best invented myths? Martinevans123 (talk) 16:29, 19 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]
The Hamburgerische Biografie source says Karl Lagerfeld was born in 1935, while the Deutsche Biographie says 1938, both of which we know is wrong. Isn't there any source that has all facts straight, one that we can trust? Lordtobi (✉) 16:37, 19 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]
For a long time his year of birth was a mystery and only after some journalists found some hard evidence 1933 became the acknowledged year. That some older sources trusted Lagerfeld's own statements isn't surprising. Every information given by Karl Lagerfeld himself should be taken with a grain of salt. 2A02:8108:1340:5E70:497F:63D2:A37:11FD (talk) 17:08, 19 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-protected edit request on 19 February 2019

Death

Following health complications in January 2019, Lagerfeld was admitted to the <a href="/wiki/American_Hospital_of_Paris" title="American Hospital of Paris">American Hospital of Paris</a> in Parisian suburb <a href="/wiki/Neuilly-sur-Seine" title="Neuilly-sur-Seine">Neuilly-sur-Seine</a> on 18 February. The morning after, he died at that hospital, aged 85. Karl Lagerfeld died from Pancreatic cancer, an illness he concealed from everyone but close family and professional contacts .[2]

Black Eagle Flight (talk) 20:16, 19 February 2019 (UTC) [reply]

References

  1. ^ https://www.famouslogos.net/fendi-logo/
  2. ^ https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6720439/Karl-Lagerfeld-dies-aged-85-France.html
 Not done. Daily Mail is a tabeloid and not a reliable source. Lordtobi (✉) 21:25, 19 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Road safety advert

This seems to have been unfortunately rather overlooked from 2008. A mention here in Vogue and in The Cut. I think it was quite a big thing in France. Martinevans123 (talk) 21:48, 19 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Awarded France's Legion of Honour

The government of France made him a Commandeur de la Legion d'honneur in 2010. This should be mentioned in his entry! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 198.111.162.122 (talk) 23:12, 19 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. Do you have a good source for that honour? Martinevans123 (talk) 10:46, 20 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]
The German Wikiedia has a newspaper source (archived) for this, title translates to French Order of Merit for KL, "url=http://www.rp-online.de/gesellschaft/leute/Franzoesischer-Verdienstorden-fuer-Karl-Lagerfeld_aid_865064.html |wayback=20100606213102 |text=Französischer Verdienstorden für Karl Lagerfeld. In: Rheinische Post. 4. Juni 2010", - and for several other honours. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:07, 20 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Godwin’s law

...is that really necessary? --78.49.25.207 (talk) 23:13, 19 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Time to break out that little black dress? (but take the swastikas off first). Martinevans123 (talk) 10:37, 20 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-protected edit request on 20 February 2019

Karl Lagerfeld dies aged 85 from pancreatic cancer [1] Yolga (talk) 05:00, 20 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

 Already done – Jonesey95 (talk) 05:53, 20 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

References

  1. ^ "Karl Lagerfeld dies aged 85 from pancreatic cancer: Victoria Beckham leads tributes to fashion legend who saved Chanel, spent thirty years as its artistic director and was notorious for his acid tongue, after he passed away". MSN. February 19, 2019. Retrieved 2019-02-19.

Age in 1955

The early career section claims: "In 1955, after living in Paris for two years, Lagerfeld entered a coat design competition sponsored by the International Wool Secretariat at the age of sixteen." He was obviously not 16 in 1955. 2A02:8108:1340:5E70:5410:8E1E:8811:9779 (talk) 11:31, 20 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

No mention of his age in the source given so I think it can be removed. Martinevans123 (talk) 11:41, 20 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Dark glasses

Presumably these were always Chanel branded? Martinevans123 (talk) 17:16, 21 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-protected edit request on 27 November 2019

In the "Controversies" section, there is a space between "Fatphobic" and the comma to its right.

X: Fatphobic , Y: Fatphobic, 71.201.47.203 (talk) 15:49, 27 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Just done by User:Theroadislong. - ChrisWar666 (talk) 16:31, 27 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]
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