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The result was delete. ✗plicit 01:56, 2 January 2022 (UTC)
- I-recycle (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Unclear notability since September 2010; Article itself notes that as of February 2011, the domain had become parked, and I'm struggling to find any reference to it, though this may be muddled by it's rather generic name.
Either way, it appears that this website never seems to have gotten off the ground, and hasn't received any notable coverage from outside sources. Pokemonprime (talk) 01:02, 26 December 2021 (UTC)
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- Delete per nom, never heard of it and I'm not finding any references either. Mujinga (talk) 02:39, 26 December 2021 (UTC)
- Delete: An article describing the proposition of an initiative which appears to have existed only briefly. Searches are not finding coverage needed to establish notability (WP:NORG / WP:NWEB / WP:GNG). AllyD (talk) 08:17, 26 December 2021 (UTC)
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The result was merge to Warmachine. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 11:58, 3 February 2022 (UTC)
- Grind (board game) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Tagged as Unclear Notability since September 2010; only references I can find are either the game for sale, or reviews from around the time of release, with no indication it's made a notable or lasting impact. Pokemonprime (talk) 00:33, 26 December 2021 (UTC)
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- What are the reviews you found? Depending on what kind they are, they can count toward notability. {{u|Sdkb}} talk 01:23, 26 December 2021 (UTC)
Keep I've added two recent reviews, indicating that the game is still around. I've also added some detail about the game itself that readers may find useful. If the nominator is aware of reviews from 2009-2010, those should be added as well. Guinness323 (talk) 23:11, 26 December 2021 (UTC)
- Keep per Guinness323, and at worst failing that it could be merged into a new section in Warmachine. BOZ (talk) 13:39, 27 December 2021 (UTC)
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- Delete. There Will Be Games solicits content - including reviews and blog posts - from users, describing itself on its submissions page as a "volunteer, non-profit site". We don't accept user-generated sites as indicators of notability for obvious reasons. I don't see any indication that Bell of Lost Souls is any more reliable - no editorial policy or about page, and the post itself is credited to "guest columnist". TV Tropes and Board Game Geek are, of course, user-generated and shouldn't even be cited. ♠PMC♠ (talk) 20:12, 17 January 2022 (UTC)
- Being non-profit doesn't make a source unreliable. Neither does the pay rate of the writers. What does is editorial control. Their solicitation makes it clear they have editorial standards and they have a editorial staff. Further, this article was written by one of their (former) associate writers. Bell of Lost Souls is, I agree, quite similar but better known and respected IME. [1] shows a strong editorial team. Hobit (talk) 13:55, 19 January 2022 (UTC)
- Keep, for the reasons those who want to keep this article. Davidgoodheart (talk) 01:14, 19 January 2022 (UTC)
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- Merge to Warmachine per BOZ. I could not find any additional, reliable coverage of the game that would satisfy WP:GNG and allow this page to be a standalone. If the game reviews could be included in the discussion, that could make a stronger case for keeping the page. Heartmusic678 (talk) 12:35, 19 January 2022 (UTC)
- selective Merge to Warmachine, the universe in which the game is set. Probably meets WP:N but A) it's debatable (only two decent sources) and B) there just isn't much to write about. Hobit (talk) 13:55, 19 January 2022 (UTC)
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- Delete No evidence in the article or in this discussion that significant coverage in reliable, independent sources is available. All significant coverage appears to be in user-generated sources as Premeditated Chaos notes. Eggishorn (talk) (contrib) 22:14, 30 January 2022 (UTC)
- @Eggishorn:. What makes these things "user generated?" Are you arguing there isn't editorial control or are you arguing something else? And you are claiming they aren't independent? Aren't reliable? Could you clarify? Hobit (talk) 03:08, 3 February 2022 (UTC)
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The result was delete. ✗plicit 11:33, 1 January 2022 (UTC)
- List of submerged places in France (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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A somewhat odd list that does not appear to pass the WP:GNG or WP:NLIST. There are no sources at all in the article, which makes the current contents WP:OR. None of the actual "submerged" places listed seem to be notable enough to have their own articles. A couple of them are briefly mentioned in broader articles, but most don't even have that. I tried to locate sources on the overall topic, using a number of different search terms, and was unable to find anything. I was originally going to PROD it, but then figured it would be a better fit at AFD, in case someone would be able to find French language sources on the topic I could not during the discussion period. Rorshacma (talk) 17:16, 18 December 2021 (UTC)
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- Delete unless it can be gone over very thoroughly by someone who knows about the topic. The listing of Rousset was clearly an error and I have removed it, but there are probably other errors. There is another Rousset in the region but it's not that either: I've driven through it and I think I would have noticed if it was under water. Athel cb (talk) 19:02, 18 December 2021 (UTC)
- According to this it was partially submerged or perhaps partially demolished in order to build the dam. https://www.envie-de-serre-poncon.com/guide/rousset Mccapra (talk) 06:06, 26 December 2021 (UTC)
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- Delete unless sources are added along the lines of List of submerged places in the Republic of Ireland I suppose. What a strange list this is! Mujinga (talk) 02:34, 26 December 2021 (UTC)
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The result was delete. Only one person believes that coverage is sufficient for notability. Sandstein 09:35, 18 January 2022 (UTC)
- Tina Ona Paukstelis (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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An actor which does meet the inclusion criteria of WP:NACTOR as they do not have significant roles multiple notable productions or made any sort of innovative contribution to their industry. I don't see any evidence they meet WP:GNG either. McMatter (talk)/(contrib) 19:27, 18 December 2021 (UTC)
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- Delete No sources found or used in article, largely bit parts. Delete. Oaktree b (talk) 00:31, 19 December 2021 (UTC)
- Keep as per significant coverage in Kenosha News newspaper articles from 1994, 1998 and 1999, among many other smaller mentions in other news outlets which helps satisfy WP:GNG. This is just from a quick search so may well be more. She had a leading role in Aswang (1994 film) which I have spent the last day significantly developing after a similar afd nomination. Bungle (talk • contribs) 11:23, 20 December 2021 (UTC)
- I have expanded the article using the sources I found, plus others and will add more if I find anything. It's looking considerably better than it did before. Bungle (talk • contribs) 13:05, 20 December 2021 (UTC)
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- Comment Re sigcov and Kenosha news articles: this is what WP:GNG has to say about sources: "Multiple publications from the same author or organization are usually regarded as a single source for the purposes of establishing notability." So having a dozen articles from Kenosha News is not necessarily helpful for determining if GNG is met. Samsmachado (talk) 18:05, 27 December 2021 (UTC)
- this is, I think, an over-interpretation of the rules. If one author writes multiple times about someone, it remains one opinion. But it's natural that newspapers write multiple articles about notable people: there is only one Washington Post, and if you do three things in your life that attract the attention of the Washington Post, those three articles all count towards your notability: taken together, they mean you have sustained appearances in the public sphere, and you're not a one-off flash in the pan. The key thing is that the newspaper is independently triggered to write about different events in your life, and that the articles aren't all published in quick succession based on a single event. I assume the Kenosha news is a local newspaper; three references separated by a number of years therefore indicate sustained (but possibly local) notability. But I know nothing about this actress and have no plans to form an opinion. Elemimele (talk) 11:04, 11 January 2022 (UTC)
- Comment Here's some other things I found:
- Over Our Head Players' 'Kimberly Akimo' humorous, touching - The Journal Times
- Clean the VCR heads after watching this - The Orlando Sentinel
- 'Aswang is vampire schlock with double dose of gonzo gore - The Atlanta Constitution
- Infernal Infants - New York Daily News
- On Halloween, his film comes to life - The Journal Times
- I tried to get a copy of the Femme Fatales article, but it's one of the issues that isn't on the Internet Archive, annoyingly. SilverserenC 21:35, 29 December 2021 (UTC)
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- Comment Fails WP:NACTOR. I don't recognise any films or series. They are small films. The coverage is from Kenosha News, is that is her home town newspaper. Where is the other coverage? Where is the national or international converage? Newspaper interviews. Seems to be a bit part actor, and seems to have barely done any acting at all. Its not even in WP:NACTOR. Not notable in the least. scope_creepTalk 09:15, 7 January 2022 (UTC)
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- Delete Lacks significant coverage in reliable independent sources with the very limited and not contributory exception of a hometown paper. Local coverage of local actors in very small productions does not help establish notability in terms of the general notability guideline nor for the specific subject matter guideline for actors. Eggishorn (talk) (contrib) 22:37, 12 January 2022 (UTC)
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The result was no consensus. WP:NOQUORUM applies. ✗plicit 00:36, 2 January 2022 (UTC)
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The forum fails WP:N and WP:WEB - especially on the term of WP:INHERITWEB. Notable information about projects they helped developed such as Media Player Classic, x264, ffdshow, VirtualDubMod should be kept to their respective articles. – The Grid (talk) 20:04, 11 December 2021 (UTC)
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- Keep. This was a tough decision to make, but I'm leaning Keep. While The Grid is correct that a lot of Doom9's press stems from coverage primarily about other topics, the amount of other stuff covered in relation to Doom9 is just so vast and non-trivial that I could not possibly vote even a Week Delete. Just look at you what you would find from this GBooks search, for example. Plus, there are a few indicators of Doom9 being notable on its own terms. The well-renowned Tony Bove, for instance, recognizes Doom9 as "An extremely technical site with highly detailed information about making backup copies of DVDs and converting them to formats for playback". 👨x🐱 (Nina CortexxCoco Bandicoot) 20:37, 11 December 2021 (UTC)
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The result was redirect to Jakks Pacific#Plug It In & Play TV Games. ✗plicit 00:36, 2 January 2022 (UTC)
- Atari Plug and Play TV Game (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Article consists of a game listing for two entirely non-notable plug and play consoles, which just repackage existing games. Only references are a store page and a dead Cnet link, which looks to have just been a specifications page. Pokemonprime (talk) 00:03, 26 December 2021 (UTC)
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- Redirect to Handheld TV game Among the first devices, but this list just isn't needed. Nate • (chatter) 00:51, 26 December 2021 (UTC)
- Redirect to Jakks Pacific#Plug It In & Play TV Games: While I did find one source which covered this device, I don't think this particular Plug & Play game is notable enough to warrant its own article. However, the list of games in this article still seems relevant, so the games should be copied as bullet points under "Atari" in the "List of TV Games by Jakks Pacific" section.
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- Redirect to Jakks Pacific#Plug It In & Play TV Games per Henry but no need to list out the games when the parent article is simply listing the names of devices. In general but especially for uncontroversial topics, please attempt to redirect/merge (or another alternative) before nominating for deletion, which is a last resort. czar 21:51, 26 December 2021 (UTC)
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