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does 20-30 days old page can be deleted ?

Just for my knowledge wanted to know if I got a page published on wikipedia and its 20-30 days old , can any one delete that page ? Kbv2024 (talk) 16:33, 5 May 2022 (UTC)

@Kbv2024: Welcome to the Teahouse. Could you provide more information as to what page it is? Answer depends on factors like whether it is in the main articlespace or Draft:. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 16:35, 5 May 2022 (UTC)

main articlespace Kbv2024 (talk) 16:36, 5 May 2022 (UTC)

Hello, Kbv2024. Only administrators can actually delete an article but any editor can propose that an article be deleted. It is the notability of the topic that matters most, not how long the article has been around. Please read Wikipedia:Deletion policy. Cullen328 (talk) 16:46, 5 May 2022 (UTC)

thank u for the information, Kbv2024 (talk) 16:51, 5 May 2022 (UTC)

The only type of page where the amount of time it has existed matters is Draft pages, and even then it will only be deleted if they have not been edited in 6 months. ― Blaze Wolf^Talk_{Blaze Wolf#6545} 17:01, 5 May 2022 (UTC)

In addition, pages with more than 5000 revisions can only be deleted by a steward. Cranloa12n / talk / contribs / 22:50, 7 May 2022 (UTC)

@Cranloa12n: Wait really? Where did you find that info? ― Blaze Wolf^Talk_{Blaze Wolf#6545} 13:06, 9 May 2022 (UTC)

I forgot. Cranloa12n / talk / contribs / 13:08, 9 May 2022 (UTC)

@Cranloa12n: Oh, cause I"ve never heard that before. ― Blaze Wolf^Talk_{Blaze Wolf#6545} 13:11, 9 May 2022 (UTC)

For those interested: more info to be found here. Lectonar (talk) 13:30, 9 May 2022 (UTC)

Ah ok. So it appears that limit is to prevent the WMF's servers from spontaneously combusting because a troll tried deleting the sandbox. ― Blaze Wolf^Talk_{Blaze Wolf#6545} 13:32, 9 May 2022 (UTC)

Actually it wasn't really a troll...even in those times only admins could delete pages. Let's call it youthful exuberance, and they ended up here for it, after much barnstarring and trouting. Lectonar (talk) 13:56, 9 May 2022 (UTC)

Blaze Wolf see WP:BIGDELETE & WP:SERVERLOAD X-750 _{I've made a mistake, haven't I?} 00:06, 10 May 2022 (UTC)

How to add reliable sources in Wikipedia article

Hey Team, I am a new user @Super30867 at here and I created an article at first time. I added all reliable sources in article by using citation but my draft: Sunil Sihag have declined by @Praxidicae. I want to know how to fix it. Super30867 (talk) 23:47, 5 May 2022 (UTC)

Hey Super30867, you can start with Help:Referencing for beginners, and then looking at WP:Reliable sources and WP:Verifiability. For example, this webpage you referenced in Draft:Sunil Sihag isn't considered a reliable source since it appears to be a promotional press release rather than an independent news article, and we try to avoid sources associated with the subject for reasons of neutrality. – Anon423 (talk) 00:04, 6 May 2022 (UTC)

Is Times Of India is promotional press release?

Is Hindustan Times is a promotional press relesae?

is dainik bhaskar is a promotional press release?

I have given many PR sources which are not Promotional Press Relesae. I request to you please review on it. Super30867 (talk) 10:23, 8 May 2022 (UTC)

Any "PR source" is by definition not independent. If we take for instance that TOI piece, it is a thinly-veiled interview, consisting exclusively of what the subject wanted to tell about themselves, therefore not an independent piece. "Promotional" is much larger than only paid-for pieces (i.e. advertisement).

If you feel that is a very strict guideline, that’s because it is. If you think that means 60% of articles in even relatively highly-regarded newspapers are unusable, you are correct. Tigraan^{Click here for my talk page ("private" contact)} 12:25, 9 May 2022 (UTC)

"Under review" tag languishing for more than a week

Hello, Teahouse hosts, it's your (not-so-old) Teahouse host asking questions again. So, I submitted this draft, and a reviewer quickly tagged it as "under review". The template stated that it should not remain for any longer than 12 hours, but the tag has been there for over a week. I'm assuming that it's fairly common, and the reviewer should obviously do this at his own convenience. However, I just wanted some help as to how long it should be up there. Thanks. — 3PPYB6 — TALK — CONTRIBS — 02:27, 6 May 2022 (UTC)

Hi @3PPYB6, and welcome to the Teahouse! I've left a note on the reviewer's talk page. For what it's worth, I'm putting my metaphorical AfC reviewer stamp of approval on this one. Cheers! 🐶 EpicPupper ^{(he/him | talk)} 03:23, 6 May 2022 (UTC)

Just read the draft - looks solid ! Jasonbrown1965 (talk) 11:57, 8 May 2022 (UTC)

Semi-protection of an article from IPs from certain territories

Is it possible to protect a page from unregistered IP addresses and new users from certain countries/territories? There are anonymous Georgian IP addresses removing visas and stamps of Abkhazia and South Ossetia in Gallery of passport stamps by country or territory constantly. I do not care what anyone's opinion on their independence is, I do not advocate for their independence either, but they are territories that issue their own visas and passport stamps, they definitely belong on the page. This constant removal is nothing but nationalistic pissing contest and it is really annoying at this point.--Shallov (talk) 19:42, 6 May 2022 (UTC)

Shallov, there doesn't appear to be much recent activity (only once every few days), and it is only one user. Simply warn IP and ask for a block at WP:AIV if necessary. Sungodtemple (talk) 19:50, 6 May 2022 (UTC)

My bad, at first glance it seemed it's multiple users. When I checked their discussion page, there were a couple of warnings already, next time I'll ask for a block straight away, thank you. Shallov (talk) 09:28, 8 May 2022 (UTC)

@Shallov I gave a clear warning to the latest IP, explaining what you said in your edit summary on their talk page. If they persist after that, let me know and I can block the IP range from the article. Best practice in these cases is to warn the user a few times and then report the user. Galobtter (pingó mió) 20:20, 6 May 2022 (UTC)

Hello, thank you for your response. I'll let you know if the user keeps removing those two items from the article. I checked their discussion page and there were some warnings already so I decided to ask here. Shallov (talk) 09:41, 8 May 2022 (UTC)

Italics

How to write an article's title in Italics? Yes, I have read WP:ITALICTITLE but I am not getting it. Looking forward for someone's help. Cheers! Leoneix _(talk) 14:55, 7 May 2022 (UTC)

@Leoneix: Welcome to the Teahouse. Please read the documentation at {{italic title}}. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 15:06, 7 May 2022 (UTC)

Thanks Leoneix _(talk) 15:46, 7 May 2022 (UTC)

Leoneix I had this same question a while back, if you are using {{Infobox album}} or {{Taxobox}}, the title of the article should automatically italicize. Sorry for the late reply I don't frequent here often. X-750 _{I've made a mistake, haven't I?} 00:43, 9 May 2022 (UTC)

@X750,Yep! I figured it out. Thanks Leoneix _(talk) 04:41, 9 May 2022 (UTC)

Blind scientist

I was wondering if blind people could have successful careers in science and if so, what field of science? I would really like to hear your opinions! Mtbuser name (talk) 15:54, 7 May 2022 (UTC)

Hello, @Mtbuser name, and welcome to the Teahouse. Unfortunately, this is a help forum supporting people having practical difficulties editing Wikipedia, not a general chat forum. In fact, there is no such place on Wikipedia at all to ask that sort of question, except perhaps the REFDESK. I think yours is a question for you to use a search engine on and then to land on some other discussion fora or news articles. But, in short, I think the actual answer to that question is 'Yes'. Regards, Nick Moyes (talk) 16:09, 7 May 2022 (UTC)

Hello, Mtbuser name. Amy Bower is a blind oceanographer. Cullen328 (talk) 16:15, 7 May 2022 (UTC)

See also Joshua Miele.--Shantavira|^{feed me} 17:23, 7 May 2022 (UTC)

And Geerat J. Vermeij --User:Khajidha (talk) (contributions) 19:05, 8 May 2022 (UTC)

@Mtbuser name, please don't removed answered posts from the Teahouse, even your own. They will be automatically archived after several days. 97.126.106.3 (talk) 19:25, 7 May 2022 (UTC)

zaferalpat

why my page didnt approved? Zaferalpat (talk) 00:27, 8 May 2022 (UTC)

@Zaferalpat: No sources, no article, no debate. —Jéské Couriano v^_^v ^{a little blue Bori} 00:33, 8 May 2022 (UTC)

@Zaferalpat: Also, no autobiographies. ClaudineChionh (talk – contribs) 01:06, 8 May 2022 (UTC)

Attempts at autobiography are allowed, just strongly advised against. David notMD (talk) 02:01, 8 May 2022 (UTC)

Hello, Zaferalpat, and welcome to the Teahouse. Please understand that Wikipedia has little interest in what the subject of an article says or wants to say about themselves, or what their associates say about them. Wikipedia is almost entirely interested in what people who have no connection with the subject, and who have not been prompted or fed information on behalf of the subject, have chosen to publish about the subject in reliable sources. If enough material is cited from independent sources to establish notability, a limited amount of uncontroversial factual information may be added from non-independent sources. ColinFine (talk) 17:18, 8 May 2022 (UTC)

Ongoing News Event: Casey White & Vicky White

Hi, I was wondering if the recent ongoing event of prison escape by criminal and maximum security prisoner Casey White, in which he's been helped by a corrections officer named Vicky White (no relation) would be considered notable enough for a Wikipedia entry? The event has been widely covered by national and international news and thus far the pair have evaded being captured (in itself atypical), but at what point does that cross over to being considered notable by wiki standards?

Additionally, I assume if the answer is yes, the article would have to be about this event itself rather than either one of the people involved (tho Casey White was the perpetuator of a 2015 interstate crime spree and convicted of murder in 2022). What are the best practices and naming/titling conventions for something like that?

Coverage: NYTimes, CNN, Newsweek, CBS (national) — Preceding unsigned comment added by SleepyWhippet (talk • contribs) 02:09, 8 May 2022 (UTC)

SleepyWhippet (talk) 02:02, 8 May 2022 (UTC)

@SleepyWhippet: Not something I've been following, but yes, if this does meet the notability criteria at NCRIME, the article should be about the event, not the people (see CRIME)). ClaudineChionh (talk – contribs) 02:15, 8 May 2022 (UTC)

Thanks, what would a possible title be for the potential wiki Article? SleepyWhippet (talk) 03:06, 8 May 2022 (UTC)

@SleepyWhippet As of now, a possible title could be "tragedy all around". Sigh... 73.127.147.187 (talk) 05:36, 10 May 2022 (UTC)

@I hear you.., very disturbing and sad. SleepyWhippet (talk) 13:17, 10 May 2022 (UTC)

Just curious

Does anyone know why when you're editing an article, and you do an edit preview before publishing, to make sure that you haven't missed anything, the layout of the article in preview is different to the way it appears in the actual article when published e.g. the line breaks? I'm not sure if it's been asked before, but if it has, my apologies. Editrite! (talk) 05:12, 8 May 2022 (UTC)

No expert but this page suggests a few things to look at ?

Might narrow the gaps :)

Wikipedia:Browser notes - Wikipedia Jasonbrown1965 (talk) 11:52, 8 May 2022 (UTC)

Thanks for the suggestion. I have used both Internet Explorer and Microsoft Edge, and there doesn't seem to be any difference in the results, but I did notice that it's a different font with Edge. Editrite! (talk) 03:49, 9 May 2022 (UTC)

Help edititing Article

Hi I need help reviewing editing a article. I recently submited and automatically got deleted or moved. I gave all the information needed. The source I gave is for referance that it existed. Ones that mainly got article deleted is blog, youtube channel. I added that to for it to be found. There where two other referances on their as well. I seen other youtube listed on here before. So not sure why that was included with the deletion. So am needing help with article and referance to pass afc guidlines. Thank You

link: Draft:Ss Stacks 2 ScooterSlim (talk) 05:28, 8 May 2022 (UTC)

@ScooterSlim: Is there a reason why content from the Blogger reference has been copied over into the draft? That's copyright violation, which is taken very seriously on here. Furthermore, that reference doesn't establish the notability of the subject, which is what is required for a subject to be on the encyclopedia. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 06:37, 8 May 2022 (UTC)

Status: Created as article, nominated for Speedy deletion, instead moved to draft Draft:Ss Stacks 2, not yet submitted to AfC. The nom and move were actions by editors - not 'automatic'. As written - first person, no valid refs, copyright violation for copying content from your own blog - there is no potential for this to be approved. Either give up, or delete content and start over. David notMD (talk) 12:47, 8 May 2022 (UTC)

Just for knowledge of the biography. All music has the same info as well. I can take that out. Will need add another referance for the biography? ScooterSlim (talk) 16:38, 8 May 2022 (UTC)

Hello, ScooterSlim, and welcome to the Teahouse. Please see the answer that I gave to #Zaferalpat a few paragraphs above this. Unless you find several sources that meet that specification (they are published by somebody with a reputation for fact-checking and editorial control, and they are written and published by people completely unconnected with you), you will not meet Wikipedia's criteria for notability, and no article about you will be accepted however and by whoever it is written.

If enough such sources do exist, then an article about you is possible. Writing a Wikipedia article is one of the most difficult tasks there is for inexperienced Wikipedia editors. Writing about yourself makes it even more difficult. Note that if we do at some point have an article about you (whoever writes it) , the article will not belong to you, will not be controlled by you, and will not necessarily say what you want it to say. ColinFine (talk) 17:28, 8 May 2022 (UTC)

What is freedom day

i want to do my homework So that I can pass and make them proud 41.116.209.86 (talk) 07:52, 8 May 2022 (UTC)

Hello and welcome to the Teahouse. There are several articles about various countries with a "Freedom Day"; you can find them at Freedom Day. 331dot (talk) 07:57, 8 May 2022 (UTC)

hi ip user! if you have further questions you may stop over at the Reference desk (note that they don't do your homework directly, only point you to what you're looking for), or just search what you're looking for directly. happy reading! 💜  melecie  talk - 09:51, 8 May 2022 (UTC)

How to avoid speedy deletion

I'm facing this problem on pages i created. I gets notifications on speedy deletion from some bots. Can you explain me what is speedy deletion and how to avoid speedy deletion. Thank you GuardedEdits (talk) 09:41, 8 May 2022 (UTC)

hi GuardedEdits and welcome to the teahouse! the speedy deletion criteria can be found over at Criteria for speedy deletion. you can avoid it by not copying from other websites. additionally, articles (those with no draft: prefix) have much stricter rules of inclusion, so it's better to keep stuff you're working on as a draft until you believe it's ready to become an article. happy editing! 💜  melecie  talk - 09:46, 8 May 2022 (UTC)

Reasons were given for each of the three Speedy deletions. All of the nominations were by editors (not bots). The first was a draft with no content. The second was for copyright infringment (you copied stuff). The third was because the topic - an actress - has been 'salted' due to previous, failed efforts to create an article about her. David notMD (talk) 12:55, 8 May 2022 (UTC)

Jairam Das Bheel

Computers Operator Jairam Daas Bhil (talk) 10:56, 8 May 2022 (UTC)

hi Jairam Daas Bhil and welcome to the teahouse! are you here to make an autobiography about yourself? if so, don't: autobiographies are discouraged in wikipedia due to it being hard to make one that would also fit in line with wikipedia's many policies. instead, there may be other places you can write one in. happy editing! 💜  melecie  talk - 11:03, 8 May 2022 (UTC)

Is it appropriate to add a person's twitter as an external link? Or inline?

hey all, just found the treehous - teahouse?

:) Looking at this page:

Raymond Winbush - Wikipedia

Wondering if it's appropriate to create an external links section, including one to his twitter?

Or should that be noted at the end of his bio?

Tried looking up policy but couldn't find anything, specifically.

thanks for any help :D

jas Jasonbrown1965 (talk) 11:43, 8 May 2022 (UTC)

Before considering adding his own social media accounts, I would suggest that you try and put in some reliable sources. The article is at serious risk of being deleted because of its lack of reliable sources.  Velella  ^{Velella Talk}   11:55, 8 May 2022 (UTC)

Thanks Velella, will do :) Jasonbrown1965 (talk) 11:59, 8 May 2022 (UTC)

The subject's Twitter account (i.e. something the subject has tweeted) could possible cited as a source in support of article content as long as it's done so in accordance with WP:ABOUTSELF or WP:BLPSELFPUB, but it would be considered a WP:PRIMARY source and you would need to be very careful when doing so. Adding a link to the subject's Twitter account might be acceptable as an external link as long as it's not a problem per WP:ELMINOFFICIAL and item #10 of WP:ELNO. In other words, if the subject has an official website that also provides links to their Twitter account and other social media accounts, then it's better to provide a link to only their official website. If the subject is fairly well known for their tweeting and their primary online activity is Twitter, then perhaps it might be OK to link to their official Twitter account. It's probably better in that case to only link to a verified Twitter account so that there's no reasonable doubt that it's the subject who's doing the tweeting or the subject's people doing the tweeting. -- Marchjuly (talk) 12:22, 8 May 2022 (UTC)

This appears to have been answered already but I thought I'd mention some more content you can read up on that explicitly addresses the usage of twitter on Wikipedia such as WP:TWITTER, WP:TWITTER-EL, and WP:RSPTWITTER. TipsyElephant (talk) 12:43, 8 May 2022 (UTC)

Removed vote from blocked sock

Is Wikipedia:Dealing_with_sockpuppets#Removal Required or Optional ? Will it apply for both on going and recently closed voting ? And it is a common rule for all wikis or each wiki has its own rule for vote of sock ? Leemyongpak (talk) 12:28, 8 May 2022 (UTC)

hi Leemyongpak and welcome to the teahouse! a sockpuppet's not-votes can be removed (or other methods) to prevent confusion or the illusion of a larger support/oppose. however this shouldn't be done in already-closed AfDs since those are meant not to be edited. finally, each wiki is a separate project and thus have their own rules for sockpuppetry, with Dealing with sockpuppets only applying to the english wikipedia. happy editing! 💜  melecie  talk - 12:41, 8 May 2022 (UTC)

My article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed, and it has not been accepted

Hi editors! I created a draft of an article (Draft:Tissue therapy), and today I've been notified that the article isn't created at this time. Reviewers inserted some templates on the draft and on my user talk page, telling that the subject does not deserve to have a separate page on Wikipedia because the references (that I provided) don't show the subject significance. Aside from that, they are trying to have me to study the rules of the platform, to fix mistakes that I made, and to resubmit the draft. ...Or to request the article deletion.

Hmm, I find that a bit unfriendly. I created the article from a link to a non-existing article on a page about Vladimir Filatov. The link is still there (on the day of writing this), and invites to create the article with the name "Tissue therapy". Reviewers titled their edit actually, this is a really bad idea. Maybe they suspect me in promotion the subject. I'm not going to promote it. I wrote a brief complete note, as neutral as possible (it rather tends to criticize the subject). I'm not going to rewrite it, and to request the deletion either. None of proposed options. I even do not desire to have a separate article for the subject. I violated the rules. I'm sorry for that! That was not on purpose.

As I understood the material will live at least 6 months...

My question: Why do reviewers not propose to transfer materials to a more appropriate place? Tosha Langue (talk) 14:58, 8 May 2022 (UTC)

Tosha Langue First, what you got at Draft:Tissue therapy and on your Talk page is standardized wording for whenever a draft is declined by a reviewer (not "Reviewers"). Second, at English Wikipedia, medical/health topics require a high standard for references, described at WP:MEDRS. I cannot read Russian, but suspect the references you provided do not meet this standard. Third, as to next steps, you can ask that the draft be deleted. If you do not, at five months you will get a reminder that it is due for deletion, and that action will be taken at six months. The clock is reset if the draft is edited in the interim. David notMD (talk) 15:48, 8 May 2022 (UTC)

This is it, @David notMD! The references don't meet WP:MEDRS. I mostly agree with the reviewer's standardized wording. The article should not exist on Wikipedia. Maybe I should add this material to Vladimir Filatov page. Nevertheless I wanted to insert a claim that tissue therapy isn't in use in scientific community, but didn't find any citation for this. This case is similar to Linus Pauling and his vitamin C therapy, however it seems that reliable and independent critics of Pauling's ideas are abundant, unlike Filatov's. Tosha Langue (talk) 17:12, 8 May 2022 (UTC)

Tosha Langue, Wikipedia must of course cover "therapies" that don't achieve anything (or worse), if these are notable. I shan't attempt to judge whether "tissue therapy" is notable; but if you believe that it is, you might post a message at Wikipedia:Fringe theories/Noticeboard, briefly summarizing what's written immediately above and asking for suggestions. If you're lucky, your message will excite the interest of one or more editors who aren't just accustomed to this kind of subject but can also read Russian more or less fluently. -- Hoary (talk) 23:21, 8 May 2022 (UTC)

Draftify/CSD/AfD

Hi,

I came across this article (Bhushita Ahuja). The references don't support the article and an article on the same person was deleted through AfD in April.

As a ~new person I'm unsure if it should be moved to draft, go for CSD, or AfD again. Suggestions please? Any links to good reading material on what I should have done also appreciated! Carver1889 (talk) 17:33, 8 May 2022 (UTC)

@Carver1889 Welcome to Teahouse! None of the current sources are an improvement from the last AfD discussion, so I've nominated it for deletion a second time. I also noted the dubious usage of irrelevant academic sourcing that fail to verify any of the content in this biography itself. ~ 🦝 Shushugah (he/him • talk) 17:51, 8 May 2022 (UTC)

how do I move an addition to an article from my sandbox to the live page

I'm a student completing an assignment. RYNOT1206 (talk) 20:03, 8 May 2022 (UTC)

Please, see Wikipedia:So_you_made_a_userspace_draft. Ruslik_Zero 20:42, 8 May 2022 (UTC)

Hi RYNOT1206. Since you seem to have essentially asked your Wiki Ed advisor Ian (Wiki Ed) the same question at User talk:Ian (Wiki Ed)#Need help request from RYNOT1206 (talk), maybe it's best for us here at the Teahouse to let Ian respond to your question. Ian is probably more familiar with your class and what's expected of you as a student, and may be able to give advice more particular to your specific situation. Ian may also be better able to assess your sandbox and whether it's ready for the article namespace. Students who try to move content from their sandboxes into articles sometimes run into problems for one reason or another (as you can see from all the messages on Ian's user talk page); so, maybe waiting a bit will help you avoid some of them. My understanding when it comes to courses like this is that your course's instructor should be OK with assessing or grading your coursework while it's still in your user sandbox. Once you add something to an article, the next person who edits the article can modify or remove (partially or totally) what you added; so, your instructor might not even see what you actually did if someone else has already changed it. — Marchjuly (talk) 20:44, 8 May 2022 (UTC)

@RYNOT1206, I see that you have completed the training required by your course. However I also see that you spent 28 seconds on the "Moving group work live" section back in March. I suggest that you go over that again. One of the 14 sections in that training is "Adding content to an existing article?" StarryGrandma (talk) 00:18, 9 May 2022 (UTC)

Thank you. RYNOT1206 (talk) 00:23, 9 May 2022 (UTC)

AOL

Is AOL a reliable source? I've read through the referencing for beginners guide but I'm still getting fairly mixed signals here. I've never cited a source before, and I don't want to do something wrong. I'm trying to cite a news article from 2012, and I've noticed the writer of the article is listed, and nowhere on the news article does it seem to say that it's been looked over and reviewed. Does this make it a self-published source? Did I not read it through enough? I looked at the list of commonly used sources and AOL was not in there, so I thought I should go here to ask for help. Anything is appreciated. - Cheers, KoolKidz112 (hit me up) 20:31, 8 May 2022 (UTC)

Hi KoolKidz112. Are you asking about this AOL or some other AOL? I don't think the American Online "AOL" is generally considered to be news media organization that creates it's own original news content, but maybe it does. Was the article you want you want to cite written by someone working (or reporting) for AOL? Was it an article simply being hosted by AOL? Some news aggregate sites do have their own independent news departments generating original content, but they also host lots of content created by others, including some of which is unvetted user-generated content. For example, if you read an article using Yahoo!, Yahoo! isn't always the original source of the content; Yahoo! could've gotten the content from someone or somewhere else and is just republishing it. So, if you can provide more information about the source (i.e. who wrote the article, what organization they seem to work for, what type of article is it (e.g. blog, editorial, news report)) and which Wikipedia article you want to use it in, then perhaps someone can help you sort things out? — Marchjuly (talk) 21:07, 8 May 2022 (UTC)

Improving my article to meet Wikipedia standards (Top 100 Films of All-Time, according to Rotten Tomatoes, IMDb, etc.)

I've drafted an article that lists the top 100 films of all-time based in now way on my own opinion, but purely based on an average ranking from 5 trusted sources: Rotten Tomatoes, IMDb, AFI, Sights & Sounds, and Empire (each referenced in my article). Unfortunately, it's been declined on the basis that it uses my own opinion but it doesn't; in fact, I don't even like the way Top 10 came out, but math is math :D

Can someone help me understand how I (if at all), I might present this data/information in a way that is suitable for Wikipedia? I'm a first-time publisher so could very well be missing a blatant issue but would love any guidance! Nuferdan (talk) 23:56, 8 May 2022 (UTC)

You have asked this at the AFC help desk; please only use one method of seeking assistance, to avoid duplication. 331dot (talk) 00:19, 9 May 2022 (UTC)

You can't, because Wikipedia is an encyclopaedia. We don't publish original synthesis (which is what this is, as you're synthesising information from sources) because encyclopaedias don't do that. We merely summarise what other, reliable sources that have already done the synthesis say. —Jéské Couriano v^_^v ^{a little blue Bori} 00:20, 9 May 2022 (UTC)

@Nuferdan: Extrapolating trends to come to a conclusion is not what Wikipedia is for. This would be considered improper synthesis. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 00:41, 9 May 2022 (UTC)

Besides, we already have lists such as 100 best American films ever made, BFI Top 100 British films and hundreds of other Lists of films. Shantavira|^{feed me} 08:15, 9 May 2022 (UTC)

@Nuferdan Top 100 films of all time as of when you created your draft, of course. Do you plan to update this when newer, better films come out and displace some entries that are currently on your draft list? Forever? It always seems to me that lists like this are unmaintainable, or at least unmaintained. Like a list of the "best 50 restaurants in Chicago" would get out of date. 73.127.147.187 (talk) 05:46, 10 May 2022 (UTC)

Citing sources via the Wikipedia Library?

Hi, as the title may suggest I will maybe be citing some sources from the Wikipedia Library very soon, some of which will be behind a paywall. What I want to know is that do I need to include a url? EBSCO permalinks can be funny, and I was just wondering if it was possible to get away with just a doi/PMID identifier? Obviously I'll need to put in url-access=subscription in the cite journal template but I just wanted to know the deal with urls. Thanks X-750 _{I've made a mistake, haven't I?} 00:38, 9 May 2022 (UTC)

@X750: There is no requirement for a cited source to be available online. The source needs to be verifiable, that's all. If verification means going to a local library or paying a fee, so be it. A web link is just a convenience and it isn't a required. Citing sources behind a paywall is acceptable. Just include the doi or PMID parameter in the {{cite}} template, and that is sufficient for anyone with access to review the referenced work. ~Anachronist (talk) 04:33, 9 May 2022 (UTC)

How to mark the British Crown Dependency on the map?

I have uploaded File:Map of countries by BMI.svg for List of countries by body mass index. This map is based on the data provided by the United Nation. I wonder that British Crown Dependencies are not part of the United Kingdom, but the United Kingdom is responsible for them, the UN didn't provided data for them. Should they be marked in the same colours as the UK or marked as "no data"? (Sorry for my poor English) --BlackShadowG (talk) 01:14, 9 May 2022 (UTC)

As "no data", BlackShadowG. -- Hoary (talk) 03:32, 9 May 2022 (UTC)

VIISAN

Draft:VIISAN Bernice860114 (talk) 01:41, 9 May 2022 (UTC)

Your creation Draft:VIISAN has been rejected, Bernice860114. This means "Please stop", because continuing your efforts would just waste more of your and other editors' time. -- Hoary (talk) 03:32, 9 May 2022 (UTC)

VIISAN is a big company and I have some of their equipment. I'm sure there will be unbiased information about them, but first you need to find those sources and adopt a more appropriate tone than advertising. You should also read WP:YFA. Shantavira|^{feed me} 08:23, 9 May 2022 (UTC)

References vs. Inline Citations

Hi, I was wondering if it would be possible for me to add References to an article without having them necessarily be inline citations attached to specific segments of the article? I ask because I am working on a AfC draft where I would like to make sure the Notability of the subject is sufficiently verifiable for the reviewers once I submit it, and I do have a fair amount of printed magazine/journal articles that I could add to the references, but I don't necessarily have more to say about the subject than I already have in the article at the moment, these references would just further establish/reinforce the existing points. If this is possible, please let me know how because I can't figure out how to add references manually to the ref list anymore, I know it used to be possible years ago tho! SleepyWhippet (talk) 02:21, 9 May 2022 (UTC)

Template:Reflist and Help:Footnotes should be helpful. Regards, Ariconte (talk) 03:03, 9 May 2022 (UTC)

@Ariconte thanks, I ended up creating two different heading names -- References and Footnotes -- which I think will be more clear? If so, will be adding more manual references. SleepyWhippet (talk) 04:43, 9 May 2022 (UTC)

Yugoslav and Serbian

Can we call avant-garde musician Konstrakta Yugoslav and Serbian, since she was alive before the dissolution of Yugoslavia? 85.238.69.176 (talk) 04:19, 9 May 2022 (UTC)

Every person I know who was born in Yugoslavia (including every member of my family on my father's side, my son's best friend's grandparents, and a former supervisor) identify themselves as Croatian or Serbian or whatever subdivision of the former Yugoslavia currently exists. And having visited the region a couple of times, nobody I met, even the older folks, identified themselves as Yugoslavian, but as the region is called now. That's just a personal observation. For Konstrakta, it is more relevant to call her Serbian, as that is a better indication of the region than Yugoslavian, which is significantly larger and no longer relevant because it includes Serbia. And it's highly probably that she herself identifies as Serbian also. ~Anachronist (talk) 04:24, 9 May 2022 (UTC)

Muholi Art Institute

Please guide or assis in correcting:

Muholi Art Institute (MAI) uses the creative process to nurture and archive the voices, hearts, and minds of historically marginalized individuals.

We are offering a space for them to produce freely content that matter, to imagine, to believe, and to represent their creative vision for their lives and communities, through visual arts activism.

We use the medium of (documentary) photography.

Through consistent workshops with long-term partners,  including youth organizations, schools, universities, and internships; art becomes the starting point of a larger life process, and the start of larger conversations about the future of our black communities. This is the core premise of MAI Mbusongcongo (talk) 04:46, 9 May 2022 (UTC)

@Mbusongcongo: Welcome to the Teahouse. If you're thinking about using this content in a draft, I'll stop you right there and say that that will make reviewers decline it immediately. Ad copy has no place on Wikipedia, since the tone is wholly inappropriate for the medium. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 04:52, 9 May 2022 (UTC)

If you ever want to write an article that you do not have a conflict of interest in, don't use first-person pronouns.

Asparagusus (interaction) 23:06, 9 May 2022 (UTC)

STATUS: Draft:Muholi Art Institute was Speedy deleted. @Mbusongcongo: A search at Google found no evidence that the Muholi Art Insitute exists. There is an article about Black photographer Zanele Muholi, but no information there about an Art Institute. David notMD (talk) 09:42, 9 May 2022 (UTC)

Is this a copyright violation?

I was looking for citations for https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thermite#Hazards And I came across https://studyqueries.com/thermite-reaction/. It seems like very similar worded to that website... Anyone have thoughts on this? WikipediaNeko (talk) 04:53, 9 May 2022 (UTC)

I'd guess that the studyqueries site copied from Wikipedia, not the reverse EvergreenFir (talk) 05:02, 9 May 2022 (UTC)

The content on Wikipedia was added around 2007; I used javascript:alert(document.lastModified) on the StudyQueries page, which usually shows the last time the page was modified, but it seems to be constantly modified when I tried using it in quick succession, so I can't tell when the content on StudyQueries was added.. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 05:45, 9 May 2022 (UTC)

I'll second EvergreenFir, there are a lot of "study help" websites that just port or heavily paraphrase information from Wikipedia. ThadeusOfNazereth(he/they)^{Talk to Me!} 06:34, 9 May 2022 (UTC)

How to write locked edits.

I want to write on locked edits because i have knowledge on that different fields Aditya2422341 (talk) 05:43, 9 May 2022 (UTC)

I suppose, Aditya2422341, that you mean that you want to edit a protected article. Please go to the article's talk page and say precisely what change you hope to make. Provide reliable sources to back up your proposal, of course. -- Hoary (talk) 05:47, 9 May 2022 (UTC)

@Aditya2422341: Welcome to the Teahouse. Please be aware that while expert editors are welcome to add to fields they specialise in, they must still follow Wikipedia's verifiability policy. For articles that are protected, please leave edit requests on their talk pages. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 05:48, 9 May 2022 (UTC)

To date, all of your edits have been reversed. Please develop more expertise in improving articles before going to Talk pages of protected articles to request changes. David notMD (talk) 09:47, 9 May 2022 (UTC)

References

How can I create this text or reference in French? "Maria L. Garrè et al.: Medulloblastoma Variants: Age-Dependent Occurrence and Relation to Gorlin Syndrome – A New Clinical Perspective. In: Clinical". Wname1 (talk) 05:51, 9 May 2022 (UTC)

Wname1, do you mean (1) "How do I translate 'Medulloblastoma Variants: Age-Dependent Occurrence and Relation to Gorlin Syndrome – A New Clinical Perspective' into French?"? Or (2) "'Medulloblastoma Variants: Age-Dependent Occurrence and Relation to Gorlin Syndrome – A New Clinical Perspective' is somebody's translation into English of a title in French; what would that title be?"? Or (3) something else (and if so, what?)? -- Hoary (talk) 06:14, 9 May 2022 (UTC)

Hello Hoary to have it as "Références" on https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neuro-oncologie. Also, for "Margaret Wrensch et al.: Epidemiology of primary brain tumors: Current concepts and review of the literature. In: Neuro-Oncology. Jg. 4, Nr. 4, Oktober 2002, S. 278–299." and "Zentrales Nervensystem. In: Krebs in Deutschland. Berlin 2019, S. 114–117". Wname1 (talk) 07:38, 9 May 2022 (UTC)

@Wname1: Taking a look at how one of the references are cited on the article, perhaps you should take a look at the documentation on Modèle:Ouvrage? I think you're asking how to get the correct formatting, but I'm not 100% sure. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 14:39, 9 May 2022 (UTC)

Wname1, the fact that you're asking about editing fr:WP not there but instead here in en:WP suggests that you lack confidence in French; if you do, I'd say that yes, you'd be better off using that amply documented template than writing your references "freehand", as it were. -- Hoary (talk) 23:19, 9 May 2022 (UTC)

@Hoary Everything is fine with the fr:WP. It's about displaying the references on the French site. What Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) wrote is about it. Regards, Wname1 (talk) 15:47, 10 May 2022 (UTC)

What's going on here?

There's a user, User:Galehale, whose account is only two hours old and has only engaged in reverting edits. I haven't looked at all the edits they reverted (just mine), but I'm confident that they are not being careful or only removing obvious vandalism. They also don't explain their reversions in edit summaries or talk pages.

Probably worth reviewing each of their reversions. 70.172.194.25 (talk) 07:31, 9 May 2022 (UTC)

See this [1] they have removed content and added without source. Galehale (talk) 07:45, 9 May 2022 (UTC)

That is a false representation of my edit, and strengthens my point about your lack of care. If you see that diff and think "this is vandalism", you are missing the picture. I had copied the text of the Ukrainian article into the Draft namespace and was in the process of translating it into English—a project which I completed entirely on my own, resulting in a successful AfC submission. I did not "[add] without source" either. Rather, I did the opposite—I added a reference for a claim which the original Ukrainian text did not source.

For further evidence that I'm not a vandal, see my edits and talk page on Wiktionary, which is where I focus my main efforts. 70.172.194.25 (talk) 07:42, 9 May 2022 (UTC)

Again see this [2] [3] Galehale (talk) 07:45, 9 May 2022 (UTC)

Neither of those edits are problematic. Please learn how to read diffs before going on a reverting spree. I will not be engaging further but I hope other editors can provide assistance. I do think you are acting in good faith, for the record. 70.172.194.25 (talk) 07:54, 9 May 2022 (UTC)

Explicit could you please take a look at this, Galehale seems to be reverting edits & changing content without sound reason. The examples Galehale has provided was merely a translation of a Ukranian wikipedia article which I've looked at (& seems fine). I'm assuming good faith but this sort of reverting spree could become problematic on more popular articles... X-750 _{I've made a mistake, haven't I?} 08:06, 9 May 2022 (UTC)

Hello and welcome to the Teahouse. I don't see where any of the usual takers have answered here so I'll try. The Teahouse isn't really set-up to enforce policy or decide who is right or wrong in a dispute. This is more of a question/answer type format where we assist new and experienced editors with their questions concerning Wikipedia and editing. It's true that we have many wonder admin's that watch the page and many of our amazing responders are admin's but content issues are best resolved on an article or user talk page or at this page. If you feel it is a behavioral issue or incidents that are urgently or persistently harmful to the encyclopedia then I suggest this page or this page (vandalism only) as the place to go. I haven't really looked deeper than the surface here but those are my immediate suggestions. --ARoseWolf 12:56, 9 May 2022 (UTC)

Galehale is the sock of an LTA. Indef blocked. Girth Summit _(blether) 16:10, 9 May 2022 (UTC)

Oh, I didn't suspect that they were a known troublemaker. I had assumed it was just a trigger-happy recent changes patroller. Thank you for handling the situation. 70.172.194.25 (talk) 17:52, 9 May 2022 (UTC)

Help to write an NGO article

Hi people,

I would like to know if someone can help me writting an article about an NGO project I've started for a couple of years.

I've written a drawft to show more less what the project is about and add many links to interviews I've done. Honestly I would like someone else to write the article to have an objective point of view of this project called Share a Bike-Share a Smile.

Although I've written in 3th person and tried to be objective, my relationship with the project does not let me be as objective as I sould so, if someone wants to help that would be awesome.

Thanks a lot for taking the time to read this,

Looking forward to hear from you people.

Gabo Gabriel Goldsack (talk) 10:25, 9 May 2022 (UTC)

Gabriel Goldsack Hello and welcome to the Teahouse. Thanks for asking your question. I would note that your first attempt was deleted as both advertising and as a copyright violation- we cannot accept content directly copied or too closely paraphrased from other sourcs. I would also note that your comment here reflects a common misunderstanding that many in your position have- that Wikipedia is a place for people to just tell about a topic like an organization and what it does- even if it is a good cause. That's not actually the case- and is considered promotional here(even if you are not soliciting or selling something). As an encyclopedia, Wikipedia summarizes what independent reliable sources with significant coverage have chosen on their own to say about a topic- in this case, an organization- showing how it meets the special Wikipedia definition of notability- such as a notable organization. "Significant coverage" goes beyond the mere reporting of a topic's activites or its existence, and goes into detail about the importance of the topic. "Independent" means that the sources cannot be associated with the topic or based on materials put out by the topic(like its website or interviews with personnel) As you seem to now recognize, it is difficult for someone with a conflict of interest to write about a topic for which they have one here, as you must set aside everything you know about the organization and only write based on what others have chosen on their own to say about it.

You are welcome to make a request at Requested Articles but it is so severely backlogged, to the point of uselessness, that your request may not be acted on for some time, if ever. The best thing to do, instead of trying to force the issue, is to naturally allow independent editors to take note of coverage of your organization in independent reliable sources and choose to write about it on their own. That's the best indicator of notability and will also give the article much more staying power. 331dot (talk) 10:36, 9 May 2022 (UTC)

Hi 331dot, thanks a lot for your answer.

I understand better now. I'll let pass time, I'm sure that sooner or later will write about us and I'll be happy to see it from a person that can write with a 100% objective view of the NGO.

Once again, thanks for you time. Gabriel Goldsack (talk) 10:58, 9 May 2022 (UTC)

Ultraviolet

Ultraviolet (disambiguation) What is Ultraviolet? 2001:44B8:41C6:F700:A0BB:C91B:472:C674 (talk) 10:31, 9 May 2022 (UTC)

Hi IP 2001:44B8:41C6:F700:A0BB:C91B:472:C674. Have you tried reading the Wikipedia article Ultraviolet? Perhaps that will answer your question. -- Marchjuly (talk) 10:34, 9 May 2022 (UTC)

Or perhaps you're referring to the tool Ultraviolet? — Berrely • ^Talk∕_Contribs 11:13, 9 May 2022 (UTC)

Or the show? Panini! • 🥪 16:12, 9 May 2022 (UTC)

Maybe the film? Chlod (say hi!) 16:13, 9 May 2022 (UTC)

Perchance the website? CaptainGalaxy 00:10, 10 May 2022 (UTC)

Can a company or organisation create a user account on wikipedia?

Hello, I've been trying to find the answer to this question, but I'm getting more lost than found at the moment! We have been researching and discovering a great deal about leadership, management, mentoring, coaching and counseling over the last 18+ years and would like to share some of this work thought Wikipedia. Can I set up an account as an organisation and share our work that way, or set up an account as an individual and then share, write about the organisation separately? As I would if I were researching any company? I'd just like to get clarity on this, so that I don't infringe any rules before I even get started! What rule do I need to read and understand? Many Thanks Tom 195.213.242.120 (talk) 10:33, 9 May 2022 (UTC)

Hi IP 195.213.242.120. It sounds like you're misunderstanding some important things about Wikipedia; so, I suggest you take a look at this and this. It doesn't sound like Wikipedia is suited for what you seem to want to do, but perhaps some of these sites might be. As for your question about accounts, accounts aren't allowed to be shared among mutliple users; so, corporate or organizational accounts aren't really going to be allowed. Basically, it's one user per account. You can find out more about how to register for an account here. -- Marchjuly (talk) 10:40, 9 May 2022 (UTC)

(edit conflict) Hello and welcome to the Teahouse. Organization accounts are not permitted, accounts are for individuals only and are exclusively for single person use(i.e. they can't be associated with a position and passed to a successor). You are permitted to create an account with a username that indicates association with an organization(such as "JohnDoe of XYZ Company"). You would also need to read about conflict of interest and, if you are compensated for editing or for any work related to the topic, would need to declare as a paid editor, a Terms of Use requirement if applicable. Wikipedia is not a place to share original research, it is a place to summarize independent reliable sources. That can include the reporting of original research, but not directly posting original research. (i.e. if the New York Times or BBC write about your research, but not your research itself). 331dot (talk) 10:40, 9 May 2022 (UTC)

A company should probably not have an official Wikipedia account. It might lead to violations of the conflict of interest and paid-contribution disclosure guidelines and policies (and many more). Also, naming an account after a company would be a violation of the username policy. Thanks for asking instead of just going and doing it.

Asparagusus (interaction) 17:00, 9 May 2022 (UTC)

Not probably, it shouldn't at all. It's against policy for shared accounts to be used (except in certain circumstances where they are used for non-editing purposes and have been approved by the WMF). ― Blaze Wolf^Talk_{Blaze Wolf#6545} 17:17, 9 May 2022 (UTC)

(I was trying not to be mean to them. Thanks for clarifying, though)

Asparagusus (interaction) 22:59, 9 May 2022 (UTC)

Getty Images

Can Getty Images be used as Image if sourced and credit to author? JohnLUcas05 (talk) 16:17, 9 May 2022 (UTC)

No. There is almost no situation in which Getty can or should be used unless it's licensed in a compatible way with Wikipedia or somehow falls under NFF, which seems highly unlikely. PRAXIDICAE💕 16:17, 9 May 2022 (UTC)

Hello, JohnLUcas05. One exception is if the image was first published more than 95 years ago. In that case, copyright has expired and the image is now in the public domain. Cullen328 (talk) 17:17, 9 May 2022 (UTC)

@JohnLUcas05: It will depend on the source of the image. Some images from Getty are incorrectly marked as copyright. See Getty_Images#Claiming_copyright_over_public_domain_content RudolfRed (talk) 17:23, 9 May 2022 (UTC)

editing

i cannot code the editing when o go to edit and code it it doesn't work Theguyfromfortniteguy (talk) 16:41, 9 May 2022 (UTC)

Theguyfromfortniteguy What exactly are you trying to edit? PRAXIDICAE💕 16:42, 9 May 2022 (UTC)

@Theguyfromfortniteguy Hello, Welcome to Wikipedia! If you want to have a play around with editing you can make your own sandbox page to learn how to edit: User:Theguyfromfortniteguy/Sandbox. If you want a quick reference for how the formatting system works have a look at the cheatsheet, for a more detailed set of instructions there's a really detailed help page: Help:Wikitext. 192.76.8.74 (talk) 18:54, 9 May 2022 (UTC)

@Theguyfromfortniteguy Hello! Maybe you could switch to the Visual Editor if you're having trouble with the Source Editor? When you go into the editing window, there's usually a pencil-looking object on the top right corner that you can click to switch. Have a good day/night and good luck with your problem! If my answer didn't help, you can either ask on my talk page or here at the Teahouse.

Asparagusus (interaction) 22:58, 9 May 2022 (UTC)

Archiving sources

I found a source that was unarchived, and I would like to know how I can archive a source on web.archive.org.

Thanks, CollectiveSolidarity (talk) 17:42, 9 May 2022 (UTC)

User:CollectiveSolidarity, you can put the URL into "Save Page Now" and submit. This usually works well. If it doesn't work for whatever reason, you can also try archive.today. 70.172.194.25 (talk) 17:49, 9 May 2022 (UTC)

@CollectiveSolidarity: Hello Collective! From what I always hear, all sources used on Wikipedia are eventually archived automatically on archive.org. To add archive links to sources (And also all sources on the page while searching for deadlinks) you can use the InternetArchiveBot which will do it automatically. ― Blaze Wolf^Talk_{Blaze Wolf#6545} 17:48, 9 May 2022 (UTC)

I need this article reviewed

When working on the project, i discovered a controversy surrounding the page which is below;

"In 2018, Amina Mohammed, aka Justina Oluoha and Amina Villa, was arrested by the Department of State Services (DSS) for reportedly impersonating Rashida Bello, wife of Kogi State governor. On Monday, December 3, 2018, in Abuja, DSS public relations officer Peter Afunanya revealed this while speaking to reporters about the arrest. He claimed that the suspect gained unlawful entrance to the Presidential Aso Villa and utilized the First Lady's office, Aisha Buhari's, to commit fraud. Before being identified, the suspect used several names and identities to deceive unsuspecting people, according to Afunanya"

to avoid some individuals impersonating her i think its right if she will be identified as the first lady to avoid people falling into scam to fake people parading as the subject.

Thanks Dorathy Nnaji (talk) 17:47, 9 May 2022 (UTC)

@Dorathy Nnaji: If you have suggestions to improve an article, you can start a discussion on that article's talk page. RudolfRed (talk) 18:11, 9 May 2022 (UTC)

Hi, Dorathy Nnaji, and welcome to the Teahouse! Is this about the article Rashida Bello? The talk page for that article can be found here. Happy editing! Perfect4th (talk) 18:16, 9 May 2022 (UTC)

What is there to review? You created the article Rashida Bello, including a controversy section about a woman impersonating her, and identifying Bello as First Lady of Kogi State. David notMD (talk) 18:36, 9 May 2022 (UTC)

I see that the article hasn't been picked up by two search engines I checked. Maybe that's what's meant. Unfortunately, it's out of our hands. 199.208.172.35 (talk) 22:28, 9 May 2022 (UTC)

The article in question was created on 15 April 2022, so it won't be indexed by search engines until a new pages patroller checks it or 90 days have passed, whichever comes first. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 00:02, 10 May 2022 (UTC)

Ah, I thought it had been patrolled already since "Indexing by robots" is set to "Allowed". Then I guess they're asking for NPP to stop by. 97.113.167.129 (talk) 12:29, 10 May 2022 (UTC)

I don't quite understand what you are saying, Dorathy, but I will point out the "to avoid (somebody doing something)" is not part of any purpose of Wikipedia. The purpose of Wikipedia is to summarise what reliable sources say about notable subjects, nothing more. ColinFine (talk) 21:20, 9 May 2022 (UTC)

My personal opinion is that the Controversy section is not about Bello or anything she did, and so should be deleted. All the real controversy is in the article about her husband. David notMD (talk) 00:34, 10 May 2022 (UTC)

Draft:Tomoharu Ushida

•  Courtesy link: Draft:Tomoharu Ushida

Hi, recently my draft has been declined. I would like to ask anyone help me to make it better to meet a standard for official Wikipedia page. Thank you. Shalom777br (talk) 19:17, 9 May 2022 (UTC)

@Shalom777br – All I can say is: revise it to meet the general notability guideline, and, since it's a biography, WP:ANYBIO. Traditionally, it means that all statements should be covered with reliable, secondary sources. In addition, multiple outlets must cover it significantly. You may also want to use {{find general sources}} and read WP:BLP since the article is a biography. Thanks. — 3PPYB6 — TALK — CONTRIBS — 19:45, 9 May 2022 (UTC)

Thank you for your advise. By the way, do you want to write about Tomoharu Ushida instead of me, to delete my article and publish yours? Thank you for your attention. Shalom777br (talk) 20:15, 9 May 2022 (UTC)

@Shalom777br Hello and welcome to the Teahouse! I would advise not to ask any specific editor to create an article. However, you can request one at requested biographies. Nobody may pick up your article, but there's a better chance than just asking somebody. Have a good day/night!

Asparagusus (interaction) 21:58, 9 May 2022 (UTC)

Thank you for your advice! I put my request at requested biographies by nacionality (Japan). Have a good day too. Shalom777br (talk) 22:38, 9 May 2022 (UTC)

Shalom777br, posting at requested biographies would almost certainly be a waste of your time. ("Requested articles" is a depressing sight, studded with proposed vanity articles.) Your draft looks promising. I haven't clicked on any of the links you provide in the references, but some of these look promising too. I imagine that much of the writing about Ushida uses bland/gushy terms such as "excellent", "precocious", "inspirational", "perceptive", etc; however, some music criticism goes beyond this, saying what it is that makes a performance excellent, inspirational, etc. See if you can find some intelligent, informative criticism of his playing, and try to summarize this criticism and add it to your draft. -- Hoary (talk) 00:01, 10 May 2022 (UTC)

Thank you for your advice. How about this one?

https://www.gramophone.co.uk/blogs/article/the-chopin-piano-competition-day-eight-what-s-in-a-name

Shalom777br (talk) 13:33, 10 May 2022 (UTC)

Incorrect info on William Cameron Townsend Wikipedia page

Hello, Just read William Cameron Townsend's Wikipedia page and it says under "Early Life" that he attended Compton High School, yet at the top of his profile it states he graduated from Santa Ana High school in 1914 and also note that under Santa Ana High School's Wikipedia page, he's listed as a Notable Alumnus. Both cannot be correct. Perhaps he attended Compton HS for a year or two but moved to Santa Ana HS and graduated there in 1914.How do I correct this or does a Wikipedia edit make corrections? Thanks, Kelli (Kalireagan7 user name) Kalireagan7 (talk) 19:31, 9 May 2022 (UTC)

@Kalireagan7 – Hello! Here at Wikipedia, we encourage you to be bold! To answer your question, a Wikipedia edit does make corrections! Of course, you should always cite a reliable source and make sure it complies with Wikipedia's policies on biographies of living people, but other than that, make the correction! (Postscript note: You may want to use {{find general sources}} to make sure that your statement is correct.) — 3PPYB6 — TALK — CONTRIBS — 19:49, 9 May 2022 (UTC)

Fixed, Kalireagan7, reverting an unexplained and implausible edit of 9 August 2018. (Incidentally, 3PPYB6, it's hardly necessary to worry about Wikipedia's policies on biographies of living people when dealing with somebody's secondary education during the second decade of the 20th century.) -- Hoary (talk) 23:52, 9 May 2022 (UTC)

@Hoary – I'll take that into consideration next time; thanks for letting me know. I need to remember WP:5P5 and know that I don't have to check every single one of my edits against BLP… — 3PPYB6 — TALK — CONTRIBS — 23:54, 9 May 2022 (UTC)

Policies about BLP, 3PPYB6, are about the living and the recently dead. Townsend has been dead for decades, as one might guess from the question and as can be confirmed in seconds by a mere glance at the article in question. -- Hoary (talk) 00:06, 10 May 2022 (UTC)

Information on sources and reality

Hello Wikipedians!! I've found here, here, here (and other articles of the same site) and here that an artist I'm writing on Draft:LØREN (musician) has produced for Somi but I don't find anywhere that information to her songs, neither with his other names. Is it possible so many sites saying that information and not be true? OK, maybe bandwagon or Vacancy Mag are not important but Vogue Hong Kong is considered one of the best mags and I don't think the translation is wrong either. How can this be possible? Fisforfenia (talk) 19:46, 9 May 2022 (UTC)

This could be a sign that LØREN is not notable. Remember, notability is determined on the number of reliable sources you can find for the subject. Sungodtemple (talk) 21:58, 9 May 2022 (UTC)

Fisforfenia, I didn't click on any of the links you provided, but their titles -- with "drops debut", "to launch", and "set to debut" -- suggests that they're little more than recycled PR fluff. The sources must be reliable, of course; but they must also say something substantive about what she has done, not merely that she or her agent or PR company has promised that she will do this or that. -- Hoary (talk) 23:26, 9 May 2022 (UTC)

Javascript convert dates from incorrect format 1979-07 to July 1979

Is there a Javascript extension to convert dates from an incorrect format such as 1979-07 to July 1979? I have a book that formats all of the dates like this and I would like to stop correcting the dates. ScientistBuilder (talk) 20:45, 9 May 2022 (UTC)

How do I link a foreign-language wikisource item in an English wikipedia article?

How do I link a foreign-language wikisource item in an English wikipedia article?

I want to link this page https://hu.wikisource.org/wiki/A_Velencei_K%C3%B6zt%C3%A1rsas%C3%A1g_hal%C3%A1l%C3%A1ra 𝕱𝖎𝖈𝖆𝖎𝖆 (talk) 22:30, 9 May 2022 (UTC)

Hello, Ficaia. [[s:hu:A Velencei Köztársaság halálára]] displays as s:hu:A Velencei Köztársaság halálára. ColinFine (talk) 22:37, 9 May 2022 (UTC)

Was old account deactivated?

I haven't logged into Wikipedia in over 5 years. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Watertown_Air_Force_Station Now the password reset function is not sending me a reset email. Tried three times yesterday, twice today. I've triple-checked my email spelling. I've done normal case also lower case. I've checked my SPAM folder. I've tried my other two email addresses. Absolutely nothing. THIS screen says my username not registered. Yet when I try to recreate my same username Wikipedia tells me that the username is already in use. The 'Help' page is no help. 75.243.212.175 (talk) 02:23, 10 May 2022 (UTC)

You have been queried for more information at the help desk. Please don't ask in multiple areas to avoid duplicating volunteer effort. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 02:32, 10 May 2022 (UTC)

Suresh Joachim

Important information about Suresh Joachim remove from the site. Why Please? 142.116.50.224 (talk) 02:31, 10 May 2022 (UTC)

@142.116.50.224: all the information is on your talk page and it appears since then you have also tried adding the information again under a different IP. The information is unsourced and even then some of it isn't relevant and not "important information" that needs to be added to the article. I suggest you read WP:BLP to see what is allowed, you also may have a conflict of interest, since all your editing seems to be about this person. Note to other editors, I have reported IP to AIV and asked for upgraded page protection.— NZFC^(talk)(cont) 02:59, 10 May 2022 (UTC)

Is there a policy on the systematic removal of history and talk?

A very large institution has been acquiring many significant companies and either eliminating their Wikipedia pages or replacing them with short entries that are far from complete, don't mention their current ownership, and have removed history and talk pages virtually entirely, with no further editing despite their use by millions of people. Some relevant information can be found on other pages. I haven't seen such a large hole in the English Wikipedia before, and wonder what policies apply. Jgrudin (talk) 06:24, 10 May 2022 (UTC)

Hi, @Jgrudin, welcome to the Teahouse! In regard to your lead question, while there is a policy on the removal of page history (see WP:Oversight), regarding your message, I am unfortunately unsure on what's happened. Could you give a little more information? That would help any editors who wish to check out what's happened themselves, and we'll be better informed to help you. Thankyou, and have a good day! HenryTemplo (talk) 06:34, 10 May 2022 (UTC)

Jgrudin, the institution should not be removing or otherwise changing articles on businesses that it owns, as it has a conflict of interest. Also, the changes you describe seem destructive. Can you please list the articles concerned, so that competent editors can assess and remedy the damage? Maproom (talk) 07:26, 10 May 2022 (UTC)

Copyright issues

I noticed that some text put onto Talk:Fano (militia) was directly copied from a news article (Specifically this one). Ive removed the text, but im concerned about how to handle possible copyvio. I've looked through things like WP:CP and frankly im getting very confused at how to file a request properly or what is the right case for this. Would someone be able to either guide me through handling this correctly or sort this on my behalf? Aidan9382 _(talk) 06:55, 10 May 2022 (UTC)

@Aidan9382, sorted. Yeah that can be very confusing. I would just ask for a WP:REVDEL of the relevant edits using Template:Copyvio-revdel, and some admin will come and make the relevant edits hidden. Galobtter (pingó mió) 06:59, 10 May 2022 (UTC)

Thanks for the help! Ill keep that template in mind, it seems quite useful. Aidan9382 _(talk) 07:02, 10 May 2022 (UTC)

how do i get new articles published

i need help in getting new article published WebpadiNG (talk) 08:28, 10 May 2022 (UTC)

Hello, @WebpadiNG, and welcome to the Teahouse! I would recommend reading Your first article. You also must make sure any articles you create have a notable subject. Notability means that reliable, secondary sources have covered the subject in depth. There’s much more that you need to know, so do let me or another editor know if you need any help. Happy editing! HenryTemplo (talk) 09:31, 10 May 2022 (UTC)

one more thing: Reliable sources describes what can and cannot be used as a source in Wikipedia, which I'd recommend you to read as sourcing claims is vital. happy editing! 💜  melecie  talk - 10:09, 10 May 2022 (UTC)

How do we report vandalism by "extended confirmed" users?

We see a lot of Extended confirmed users who are using their privileges to push older data or delete data. There are numerous incidents, is there a way we can report this?

I am not adding names here, upon request I shall share. Shark (talk) 09:36, 10 May 2022 (UTC)

hi Shark80 and welcome to the teahouse! are you talking about the edits in K.G.F: Chapter 2? I'd advise you to talk to them first regarding why they are reverting your edits, either at their talk page or the article's talk page, instead of reverting further. happy editing! 💜  melecie  talk - 10:06, 10 May 2022 (UTC)

@Shark80, also be aware that vandalism has a very specific definition on Wikipedia, and what you describe does not fall into that category (see WP:NOTVANDALISM). 97.113.167.129 (talk) 12:23, 10 May 2022 (UTC)

I would like to know how to create a wikipedia page of a company in the field of virtual reality

GoPhygital is a company based in mumbai which created virtual reality solutions and are experts in the ar/vr technology.

the mint article and inc42 has talked about how they are making change in the field Anirudhnairgp (talk) 10:16, 10 May 2022 (UTC)

hi Anirudhnairgp and welcome to the teahouse! if you are connected with the company, please read Conflict of interest. wikipedia won't advertise your company, only tell what people outside it have already told (the good and the bad). making an article about a company you're associated it would be hard, since it may be difficult to create an article about something you're linked with while talking it in a completely neutral manner.

otherwise, to start the article please read Notability for companies and organizations, Reliable sources, and Your first article. the first guides you in what companies can be considered "notable" and thus eligible for a wikipedia article, the second guides on what sources and sites can be used in wikipedia, and the last guides you in actually writing the article. happy writing! 💜  melecie  talk - 10:27, 10 May 2022 (UTC)

Anirudhnairgp And it won't be a "page of a company," if that means something like a Facebook or LinkedIn page; it will be an encyclopedia article about the company. And anybody will be able to edit that article, and the company might or might not like the results. Uporządnicki (talk) 12:02, 10 May 2022 (UTC)

course of abshiri rebellion

course of abshiri rebellion 62.8.83.129 (talk) 11:59, 10 May 2022 (UTC)

Do you want to ask a question about the abshiri rebellion? If so, maybe try asking the reference desk. Have a good day! HenryTemplo (talk) 14:41, 10 May 2022 (UTC)

Is this about Abushiri revolt?

Article unaccepted, 'Aboukir filter'

Hello,

I submitted my first wikipedia article here > Draft:Aboukir filter

I have received the following message. > Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time.

Is this due to > show significant coverage ?

There is significant coverage of the topic, not just passing mentions. The topic is well covered in various media, including an old news paper article from the time & photographs, & an article in a book.

What should i do to get this article accepted ?

Thank you ! ArcRec (talk) 12:04, 10 May 2022 (UTC)

Hello ArcRec and welcome to the Teahouse! I know having a submitted draft rejected can make you feel like you have been rejected but that is not the case. We appreciate your contributions to the encyclopedia and your added voice in the community. In regards to the draft that was rejected. Certainly, if you have newspaper clippings or books about the subject you will need to add them as inline citations in the body of the article after the information that is referenced in the source. You can learn about citations here. All information being added to the encyclopedia must be properly sourced. As an alternative, if it is deemed that the subject does not deserve a stand-a-lone article you might consider adding it to an existing article, possibly Supermarine Spitfire (early Merlin-powered variants) which lists the Mark V variant of the Spitfire. I hope this helps and please do not hesitate to ask further questions if need be. --ARoseWolf 12:29, 10 May 2022 (UTC)

Small note: Draft was Declined, which is less severe than Rejected. Either add the references you mention, or else amend one of the Spitfire articles (still needing references). A book ref requires title, authors, publisher, year and page numbers. David notMD (talk) 15:40, 10 May 2022 (UTC)

Submission Declined

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Kargo_Xpress

submission been declined for the same reason.

Submission declined on 6 May 2022 by Rich Smith (talk). This submission's references do not show that the subject qualifies for a Wikipedia article—that is, they do not show significant coverage (not just passing mentions) about the subject in published, reliable, secondary sources that are independent of the subject (see the guidelines on the notability of organizations and companies). Before any resubmission, additional references meeting these criteria should be added (see technical help and learn about mistakes to avoid when addressing this issue). If no additional references exist, the subject is not suitable for Wikipedia.

I have resubmitted with the following reference and yet it is declined again.

^ https://www.nst.com.my/business/2021/06/697323/m-jets-obtained-aoc-commence-cargo-flight-east-malaysia ^ "Kargo Xpress adds Hong Kong to its air freight network - Payload Asia". ^"Kargo Xpress Fleet Details and History". www.planespotters.net. ^ https://www.gecas.aero/2x738bcf_to_kargo-xpress/ ^ https://www.jetphotos.com/airline/Kargo%20Xpress ^ https://www.airfleets.net/flottecie/Kargo%20Xpress.htm ^ https://cargofacts.com/allposts/carriers/kargo-xpress-nears-launch-with-737-400f/ ^ https://www.caasint.com/kargo-xpress-implements-champs-cargospot-airline-solution/ Gunasekar Mariappan (talk) 13:41, 10 May 2022 (UTC)

Hello, @Gunasekar Mariappan, and welcome to the Teahouse! It can be frustrating when your draft article is rejected, however, there are reasons why Rich Smith decided to reject it. I would recommend reading the pages on reliable sources and notability (particularly the guidelines on organisations and companies) if you haven't already, as they are very important to consider when starting an article. Enjoy your day, and feel free to ask any questions if you need to! HenryTemplo (talk) 14:53, 10 May 2022 (UTC)

I will also share a comment from ARoseWolf which was shared on the discussion above: "I know having a submitted draft rejected can make you feel like you have been rejected but that is not the case. We appreciate your contributions to the encyclopedia and your added voice in the community.". Have a great day! HenryTemplo (talk) 14:56, 10 May 2022 (UTC)

This one also Declined - not Rejected - but now Declined four times. References MUST be incorporated into the text. Press release content does not establish notability. David notMD (talk) 15:43, 10 May 2022 (UTC)

Updating of a Page

I have been tasked to update the Aventus Protocol page, but our new content makes reference to Aventus Network and your system is not liking this very much. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aventus_Protocol This is the response I have received and I am now uncertain on how to proceed

Welcome to Wikipedia. I saw that you edited or created Aventus Protocol, and I noticed that your username, "AventusNetwork", may not comply with our username policy. Please note that you may not use a username that represents the name of a company, group, organization, product, service, or website. Examples of usernames that are not allowed include "XYZ Company", "MyWidgetsUSA.com", and "Foobar Museum of Art". However, you are permitted to use a username that contains such a name if it identifies you individually (not your role), such as "Sara Smith at XYZ Company", "Mark at WidgetsUSA", or "FoobarFan87", but not "SEO Manager at XYZ Company". Please also note that Wikipedia does not allow accounts to be shared by multiple people and that you may not advocate for or promote any company, group, organization, product, service, or website, regardless of your username. Please also read our paid editing policy and our conflict of interest guideline. If you are a single individual and are willing to contribute to Wikipedia in an unbiased manner, please request a change of username by completing the form at Special:GlobalRenameRequest, choosing a username that complies with our username policy. If you believe that your username does not violate our policy, please leave a note here explaining why. Thank you. –Skywatcher68 (talk) 14:24, 10 May 2022 (UTC) AventusNetwork (talk) 14:40, 10 May 2022 (UTC)

@AventusNetwork: Hello! The reason you received that message on your talk page is because your username is the same as the company name, which is something that is not permitted here on Wikipedia. In order to comply with Wikipedia's username policy, you should change it to (for example), John at Aventus Network. To request a change in username head to Special:GlobalRenameRequest and fill out the form there with the username you are changing it to. Once your username is changed, please read WP:PAID and WP:COI as it appears you have a Conflict of Interest with the company Aventus Protocol. ― Blaze Wolf^Talk_{Blaze Wolf#6545} 14:44, 10 May 2022 (UTC)

Question about contributing biographies of women sceintists

Hello, Teahouse hosts! I used to work for a high-profile research institute, and noticed there were some stellar senior women scientists there who did not have wikipedia profiles. For some reason, this was not the case for the senior male scientists. Now that I'm no longer working there, would it be a conflict of interest to draft profiles for them?

Thanks for your advice. JendoCalryssian (talk) 15:34, 10 May 2022 (UTC)

Hello JendoCalryssian and welcome to the Teahouse. You will receive no compensation from the institute will you? And you are not editing for the institute? If the answer is no to both then by Wikipedia definition I believe you are good so long as you follow guidelines for writing articles. If anything promotional or considered puffery is added then it may come under scrutiny further but the same could be said for any editor that adds that to an article. You may want to pop over to Women in Red and see if anyone there would like to help you or may already be working on something. --ARoseWolf 15:47, 10 May 2022 (UTC)

This issue a very helpful answer-- thank you, ARoseWolf. There would be no compensation from the Institute for these pages if I undertake them. Will certainly try to avoid puffery and the word "profile," and will check out Women in Red! Thank you so much. JendoCalryssian (talk) 16:48, 10 May 2022 (UTC)

"issue" --> "is" JendoCalryssian (talk) 16:49, 10 May 2022 (UTC)

@JendoCalryssian, a further note - many folks in these parts get touchy when articles are referred to as "profiles", since it implies a social media or PR-esque view of what should be in 'em. Not a big deal in the long run, but something to keep in mind. Also, check out our notability criteria for academics (including scientists): WP:NACADEMIC. 199.208.172.35 (talk) 16:43, 10 May 2022 (UTC)

How to make my draft published

Hi all if anyone know how can I publish my draft page. Dj121e121 (talk) 15:41, 10 May 2022 (UTC)

You would need to submit it for review. At present there is no hope of it being accepted, as it is about a living person but it has no sources, never mind any evidence that this person is notable. Please read carefully the guidance at WP:YFA. Mike Turnbull (talk) 15:48, 10 May 2022 (UTC)

Assuming you mean Draft:Lt Gen Amardeep Singh Aujla, do not submit yet. You have recently edited Devendra Pratap Pandey, so that should give you some idea of referencing about Aujla as a Lt General. David notMD (talk) 15:53, 10 May 2022 (UTC)

The Additional Platonic Solids (They are more than 5)

Hey guys, I think I found some additional 'platonic solids' which implies that they are more than 5. I would like someone to review them and give a feedback whether am wrong or right. But so far they match all the qualities of a platonic solids. They include another 6-sided solid made up of 6 triangles (Ghedron) and A 10 sided one which was previously missing. Here is the link to some short videos on all the solids plus how to get additional ones https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yLwn839ShOU&ab_channel=GregoryOdhiambo Ghedron (talk) 16:02, 10 May 2022 (UTC)

Hello, and welcome to Wikipedia and the Teahouse. Unfortunately we have a policy against original research - see WP:OR - and also about "off-topic" discussions not related to building the encyclopedia. You may want to read WP:FORUM. If your research is ever published in a reputable journal, it may get added to Platonic solid. 199.208.172.35 (talk) 16:28, 10 May 2022 (UTC)

Help and guidance needed for new page

can anyone help me to create a page, which I recently did Kbv2024 (talk) 16:09, 10 May 2022 (UTC)

Kathy Barnette's Wiki page

Kathy Barnette is in a statistical tie for the Pennsylvania Republican senate primary. She is a notable person and is worthy of a Wikipedia web page, but it was taken down. Is there some reason it can't be put back online? 164.111.127.13 (talk) 16:16, 10 May 2022 (UTC)

The article was deleted per this discussion, which determined that she did not - at that time - meet our notability criteria for politicians. I see it's been repeatedly recreated, but apparently without improvement. The latest version will most likely be deleted soon; the article may be salted against recreation if this continues. 199.208.172.35 (talk) 16:24, 10 May 2022 (UTC)

Hello IP editor and welcome to the Teahouse! Without digging too far I suspect it has to do with WP:NPOL. Merely being a candidate for a political office is not a notability claim. If the candidate wins the general election or is a major local politician that has received significant coverage in reliable sources then that may be a claim of notability. Look at NPOL and see if Kathy meets any of the criteria listed. If not then that may be your answer. --ARoseWolf 16:27, 10 May 2022 (UTC)

Thanks to both of you. 164.111.127.13 (talk) 16:30, 10 May 2022 (UTC)