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== Infobox image ==
== Infobox image ==
I believe that the image that i had cropped and put on this page was a better image than the one currently on the page. In the image i had edited into the infobox he was not depicted in an unflattering camera angle as for the current one does. [[User:Kedokinnie|Kedokinnie]] ([[User talk:Kedokinnie|talk]]) 02:20, 30 September 2022 (UTC)
I believe that the image that i had cropped and put on this page was a better image than the one currently on the page. In the image i had edited into the infobox he was not depicted in an unflattering camera angle as for the current one does. [[User:Kedokinnie|Kedokinnie]] ([[User talk:Kedokinnie|talk]]) 02:20, 30 September 2022 (UTC)
<gallery>File:Pope Benedict XVI Blessing.jpg|thumb|Vested for Mass in gold, with pallium, hand raised in blessing
<gallery>File:Pope Benedict XVI Blessing.jpg|thumb|Vested for Mass in gold, with pallium, hand raised in blessing<br>(Option 1)
File:P071009PS-0433 (3718110578) (cropped) (cropped).jpg|thumb|In choir dress with red ''cappa'' and pectoral cross, smiling
File:P071009PS-0433 (3718110578) (cropped) (cropped).jpg|thumb|In choir dress with red ''cappa'' and pectoral cross, smiling<br>(Option 2)
File:BentoXVI-30-10052007.jpg|thumb|Vested in red with pectoral cross and stole
File:BentoXVI-30-10052007.jpg|thumb|Vested in red with pectoral cross and stole<br>(Option 3; current)
File:Benedicto XVI, 2011.jpg|thumb|Benedict XVI in 2011</gallery>
File:Benedicto XVI, 2011.jpg|thumb|Benedict XVI in 2011<br>(Option 4)</gallery>
These are the last three articles in the infobox. I agree that the second one is very good, Kedokinnie. [[User:Elizium23|Elizium23]] ([[User talk:Elizium23|talk]]) 05:45, 30 September 2022 (UTC)
These are the last three articles in the infobox. I agree that the second one is very good, Kedokinnie. [[User:Elizium23|Elizium23]] ([[User talk:Elizium23|talk]]) 05:45, 30 September 2022 (UTC)
*Out of the three, I'm inclined to option 3 since it looks like an official portrait (though not). I added a fourth option to the mix. --[[Special:Contributions/38.106.246.198|38.106.246.198]] ([[User talk:38.106.246.198|talk]]) 20:54, 28 December 2022 (UTC)
*Out of the three, I'm inclined to option 3 since it looks like an official portrait (though not). I added a fourth option to the mix. --[[Special:Contributions/38.106.246.198|38.106.246.198]] ([[User talk:38.106.246.198|talk]]) 20:54, 28 December 2022 (UTC)

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Infobox image

I believe that the image that i had cropped and put on this page was a better image than the one currently on the page. In the image i had edited into the infobox he was not depicted in an unflattering camera angle as for the current one does. Kedokinnie (talk) 02:20, 30 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

These are the last three articles in the infobox. I agree that the second one is very good, Kedokinnie. Elizium23 (talk) 05:45, 30 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Inclusion of "St." in context of religious studies

The article contains the following: "Ratzinger's 1953 dissertation was on St. Augustine and was titled The People and the House of God in Augustine's Doctrine of the Church. His habilitation (which qualified him for a professorship) was on Bonaventure. It was completed in 1957 and he became a professor of Freising College in 1958." I added "St." before Bonaventure to a) match with St. Augustine; and b) to help identify "Bonaventure". I was reverted (in good faith, just as my original edit was) on the basis of WP:HON, which I concede could have application. However, I maintain that in the context of religious studies, calling a saint a saint is helpful and not an improper honorific. Further, with the use of "St. Augustine" in the very sentence before, it causes a reader (as it did with me) to conclude that Bonaventure is not referring to a saint. Ultimately, while not a huge issue, I wanted to raise this here: should St. be added before Bonaventure? ‡ El cid, el campeador talk 18:14, 26 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Veverve: - courtesy ping. ‡ El cid, el campeador talk 18:18, 26 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
The "St." for Augustine should also be removed. The rule is not that on religious articles, the honorifics apply, rather it is a general rule. Veverve (talk) 19:10, 26 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I just don't think WP:HON applies as strictly as you think. While MOS:SAINTS refers to article naming conventions and not usage within articles, it states "For example, we use Joan of Arc (recognizable, natural, concise, and unambiguous) but Saint Monica. (Disambiguation is necessary because Monica is a disambiguation page; editors have preferred "Saint Monica" over other possible titles, such as Monica of Hippo.) The word "Saint" should never be omitted if it is the only way of referring to the title in a recognizable way. Patrick of Ireland is merely a redirect to Saint Patrick for this reason. "Saint" should never under any circumstances be shortened to "St" or "St." in article titles about the person in question, though redirects should be created from such titles. (See also List of saints.)" Expanding this reasoning, even outside of article titles, where it is necessary to refer to an individual as a "saint" in order for their name to be recognizable, it makes to do so. "Saint" is different from a lot of other 'honorifics' since in many cases, sainthood is what makes the individual notable, or at least what they are best known for. This is different from calling him the "Blessed Saint Bonaventure" or "Bonaventure, peace be upon him". ‡ El cid, el campeador talk 19:33, 26 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Pope Benedict's academic qualifications

I think it is highly unlikely that Pope Benedict received a B.A. at the University of Munich, because B.A.s were not awarded at German universities until the last 20 years, in the train of the so-called Bologna reforms. Even as recently as 1994, when I took my masters at the University of Munich, no B.A.s were conferred; the first degree that you took was the Magister Artium (M.A.). 2003:F2:674F:CF27:113D:30:3BD8:8B66 (talk) 22:15, 17 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I clicked through the autobiography that is cited there for his ordination, and I didn't see anything about University of Munich conferring degrees on him. Whatever degrees he may have earned were in the course of his seminary work on theology towards ordination to the sacred priesthood. @Mreditoratlast: added the disputed field relatively recently, and this editor seems to engage in WP:OR on more than one occasion. Barring any sources about Ratzinger's degrees I'll just remove it entirely. There's no rush to add it without accurate sourceability. Elizium23 (talk) 22:43, 17 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

In section 3.1, Election to the Papacy, paragraph 3, it states that he was announced as Pope by Jorge Medina. This incorrectly links to the activist Jorge Medina, not the Chilean cardinal. ElChorizoTX (talk) 20:26, 28 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]