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:::::Registration isn't required to view tweets as it broke embedding, but otherwise everything else I try to click on asks me to login. [[User:Lyeuhm|Lyeuhm]] ([[User talk:Lyeuhm|talk]]) 07:01, 24 July 2023 (UTC) |
:::::Registration isn't required to view tweets as it broke embedding, but otherwise everything else I try to click on asks me to login. [[User:Lyeuhm|Lyeuhm]] ([[User talk:Lyeuhm|talk]]) 07:01, 24 July 2023 (UTC) |
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::::::Well our article still says you don't need to login to view profiles with a cite (although I didn't check the cite) but I think I worked it out. Although you can't visit the user's URL without logging in, if you are on someone's ex, sorry I mean if you are on someone's X you can hover over their username to see their details. It might be there are other ways to see the same thing, I don't know. <small>Why X didn't do what probably nearly every other website would do and let you see those details perhaps with a strong encouragement to register or login to see their X's etc when you visit the user URL I'll let other editors figure out for themselves. </small> 15:41, 24 July 2023 (UTC) [[User:Nil Einne|Nil Einne]] ([[User talk:Nil Einne|talk]]) 15:41, 24 July 2023 (UTC) |
::::::Well our article still says you don't need to login to view profiles with a cite (although I didn't check the cite) but I think I worked it out. Although you can't visit the user's URL without logging in, if you are on someone's ex, sorry I mean if you are on someone's X you can hover over their username to see their details. It might be there are other ways to see the same thing, I don't know. <small>Why X didn't do what probably nearly every other website would do and let you see those details perhaps with a strong encouragement to register or login to see their X's etc when you visit the user URL I'll let other editors figure out for themselves. </small> 15:41, 24 July 2023 (UTC) [[User:Nil Einne|Nil Einne]] ([[User talk:Nil Einne|talk]]) 15:41, 24 July 2023 (UTC) |
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:::::::So you can read a post / thread only if you already know its exact URL. It's look like a very minimal use regarding a viewer user (not to tell about a writer user), so the very most of the site is usable by registered users only. So "we have registration parameter set as required" seems the proper indication. [[User:Meridiana solare|Meridiana solare]] ([[User talk:Meridiana solare|talk]]) 16:43, 24 July 2023 (UTC) |
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Current CEO of Twitter
Linda Yaccarino has assumed the charge of new CEO of Twitter on 12 May, 2023. 2402:E000:424:83:0:0:0:1 (talk) 09:55, 24 May 2023 (UTC)
- Do you have reliable sources to support this? —C.Fred (talk) 11:52, 24 May 2023 (UTC)
- May 12th is the day she resigned from NBCUniversal, and Musk announced she would be the new CEO, not when she assumed charge. --2001:1C06:19CA:D600:C169:F12A:3E15:DFF3 (talk) 04:53, 3 July 2023 (UTC)
Question about lede
Are there any sources to support the claim that Twitter is sometimes referring to as "X"? Professor Penguino (talk) 01:46, 24 June 2023 (UTC)
- Not any independent sources as far as I can see - there is some discussion of this on news sites but it all seems ultimately sourced to promotional / teaser statements by Musk and his staff. So I have removed it. Barnards.tar.gz (talk) 21:36, 24 June 2023 (UTC)
- Thank you. Professor Penguino (talk) 23:36, 24 June 2023 (UTC)
Unregistered users and public tweets
Introductory paragraph below CV block states that unregistered users may only view public tweets. This is no longer the case as of 2023-06-29 (possibly earlier). Tweets are only viewable after logging in with a username. 2600:1700:E73:C10:C9EA:4F5:919F:6D59 (talk) 20:56, 1 July 2023 (UTC)
related edit request
What is a CV block?
Twitter#Tweets says,
- Tweets are publicly visible by default,
but as it says in Twitter#Post-acquisition,
- On June 30, 2023, Twitter blocked unregistered users from viewing tweets or profiles on the platform.
Maybe change
to
- By default, tweets are visible to any user signed into a Twitter account, but senders can restrict message delivery to only their followers
or something like that? 173.67.42.107 (talk) 07:31, 2 July 2023 (UTC)
X
Hi
We could create a new page for X because since Musk's ownership, lots of things have changed since original Twitter. We could move Twitter under Elon Musk to X (social network). Panam2014 (talk) 10:34, 23 July 2023 (UTC)
- First off, let's wait till it actually happens, but assuming it does, I think it makes sense to split off all post-Musk acquisition stuff into a new article on the service, while Twitter itself covers up to and the basics of the acquisition. Masem (t) 15:29, 23 July 2023 (UTC)
- Ship of Theseus XD
- I think X is still a renamed and rebranded version of Twitter, and thus, Twitter should redirect to X (social network).
- I don't mind a separate page for X before Elon Musk (or is it Twitter before Elon Musk?). FunLater (talk) 21:28, 23 July 2023 (UTC)
- It's definitely an accepted practice on Wikipedia to periodize articles around major corporate restructurings, even if the company doesn't change names. (For example, News Corporation vs. News Corp and AT&T Corporation vs. AT&T.) Having separate Twitter vs. X articles could be a good solution especially if the company's platforms change substantially. Antony–22 (talk⁄contribs) 22:46, 23 July 2023 (UTC)
- @Antony-22 Wikipedia doesn't predict the future WP:CRYSTALBALL. At the moment, Twitter is fundamentally still the same platform as it was pre-Musk, and pre-Musk Twitter probably has much more in common with current Twitter than much earlier iterations of the platform. I agree that if Twitter becomes a fundamentally different platform from its current state (as Musk seems to envision), then a separate article may become appropriate.
- Furthermore, we have already periodised the major corporate articles, see: Twitter, Inc. and X Corp.. Jèrriais janne (talk) 23:43, 23 July 2023 (UTC)
- I agree here with looking into splitting the articles into two, with Elon talking about X being the "everything app" and the site being planned out much differently in comparison to right now. It's too early to tell at this point but I feel like if X and Twitter are two completely different things, it might be worth separating the two so those looking for information about Twitter pre-X can easily distinguish the two. TechnoKittyCat (talk) 08:27, 24 July 2023 (UTC)
- It's definitely an accepted practice on Wikipedia to periodize articles around major corporate restructurings, even if the company doesn't change names. (For example, News Corporation vs. News Corp and AT&T Corporation vs. AT&T.) Having separate Twitter vs. X articles could be a good solution especially if the company's platforms change substantially. Antony–22 (talk⁄contribs) 22:46, 23 July 2023 (UTC)
- Sounds good. Then X Corp or X (social network) would be targets for post-Musk Twitter. SWinxy (talk) 02:32, 24 July 2023 (UTC)
Regarding "Registration required"
Currently, we have registration parameter set as required but it is not required to view tweets, does that make it not required, should we clarify to something like, Required to post, not required to read
? --qedk (t 愛 c) 18:52, 23 July 2023 (UTC)
- @QEDK: that would be misleading as Twitter/X still requires for registration for most stuff including checking out what their own company as well as their CEO is tweeting/xeeting even when they make major announcements through Twitter/X. AFAIK it's only the individual tweets/xeets that can be viewed, it's not even possible to find the replies to the tweets/xeets via Twitter/X without registration. Nil Einne (talk) 22:33, 23 July 2023 (UTC)
- @QEDK Actually, since some months ago, registration is required to view tweets: I'm not registered and I get a a log-in/register prompt (that there was not some weeks ago), and when I close it I'm redirected to home page. I've just tried 5 minutes ago. Meridiana solare (talk) 22:35, 23 July 2023 (UTC)
- No that isn't quite correct either. Currently registration isn't required to view individual tweets as our article sort of says (although IMO it isn't clear enough). Try checking out this [1] or [2] or any link to a non-deleted, non-private tweet and it should work even if you're not logged in. Nil Einne (talk) 22:39, 23 July 2023 (UTC)
- BTW does anyone know what a Twitter user profile is? If it means something like https://twitter.com/Twitter or https://twitter.com/elonmusk then the claim in our article about not requiring registration to view user profiles is not currently correct. If so, this is perhaps one reason why we should avoid trying to go into too much detail in the infobox, it's simply to chaotic what you need registration for at the moment. Nil Einne (talk) 22:46, 23 July 2023 (UTC)
- User Profile would be https://twitter.com/ElonMusk. I have just tried to view his profile in a private browser, not logged in, and it has asked me to Login.
- Registration isn't required to view tweets as it broke embedding, but otherwise everything else I try to click on asks me to login. Lyeuhm (talk) 07:01, 24 July 2023 (UTC)
- Well our article still says you don't need to login to view profiles with a cite (although I didn't check the cite) but I think I worked it out. Although you can't visit the user's URL without logging in, if you are on someone's ex, sorry I mean if you are on someone's X you can hover over their username to see their details. It might be there are other ways to see the same thing, I don't know. Why X didn't do what probably nearly every other website would do and let you see those details perhaps with a strong encouragement to register or login to see their X's etc when you visit the user URL I'll let other editors figure out for themselves. 15:41, 24 July 2023 (UTC) Nil Einne (talk) 15:41, 24 July 2023 (UTC)
- So you can read a post / thread only if you already know its exact URL. It's look like a very minimal use regarding a viewer user (not to tell about a writer user), so the very most of the site is usable by registered users only. So "we have registration parameter set as required" seems the proper indication. Meridiana solare (talk) 16:43, 24 July 2023 (UTC)
- Well our article still says you don't need to login to view profiles with a cite (although I didn't check the cite) but I think I worked it out. Although you can't visit the user's URL without logging in, if you are on someone's ex, sorry I mean if you are on someone's X you can hover over their username to see their details. It might be there are other ways to see the same thing, I don't know. Why X didn't do what probably nearly every other website would do and let you see those details perhaps with a strong encouragement to register or login to see their X's etc when you visit the user URL I'll let other editors figure out for themselves. 15:41, 24 July 2023 (UTC) Nil Einne (talk) 15:41, 24 July 2023 (UTC)
- BTW does anyone know what a Twitter user profile is? If it means something like https://twitter.com/Twitter or https://twitter.com/elonmusk then the claim in our article about not requiring registration to view user profiles is not currently correct. If so, this is perhaps one reason why we should avoid trying to go into too much detail in the infobox, it's simply to chaotic what you need registration for at the moment. Nil Einne (talk) 22:46, 23 July 2023 (UTC)
- No that isn't quite correct either. Currently registration isn't required to view individual tweets as our article sort of says (although IMO it isn't clear enough). Try checking out this [1] or [2] or any link to a non-deleted, non-private tweet and it should work even if you're not logged in. Nil Einne (talk) 22:39, 23 July 2023 (UTC)
- @QEDK Actually, since some months ago, registration is required to view tweets: I'm not registered and I get a a log-in/register prompt (that there was not some weeks ago), and when I close it I'm redirected to home page. I've just tried 5 minutes ago. Meridiana solare (talk) 22:35, 23 July 2023 (UTC)
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Change 'twitter' to X Eyalm123 (talk) 07:35, 24 July 2023 (UTC)
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X transition notice
Editors, now today the startup of twitter.com now shows the X logo, should it be added now or wait for reliable source? ToadetteEdit (chat)/(logs) 09:00, 24 July 2023 (UTC)
- It was just before 9am GMT and seems like Twitter began transitioning to the X logo. ToadetteEdit (chat)/(logs) 09:01, 24 July 2023 (UTC)
- I'm also seeing the new logo and the Twitter brand accounts have had their profile picture updated to the new logo as well. Lyeuhm (talk) 09:04, 24 July 2023 (UTC)
- Can also confirm Twitter now displays the X logo in place of the bird. Jurta talk 09:20, 24 July 2023 (UTC)
The X logo was created by Alex Tourville and not Sawyer Merrit
The X logo was created by Alex Tourville (@ajtourville) and not Saywer Merrit as stated in the article. It is correct that Saywer posted the logo and gave it to Elon. Source: https://twitter.com/sawyermerritt/status/1683150433806692352?s=46&t=Idguo1WjfkxggFFLioF1HQ 98.151.130.99 (talk) 09:42, 24 July 2023 (UTC)
X?
Should the name of the article be changed? Parham wiki (talk) 11:08, 24 July 2023 (UTC)
- I would support a split based on the rationale in the above discussion. —Legoless (talk) 11:16, 24 July 2023 (UTC)
- It should be a split, but let's wait a day or so and make sure what it is actually going to be called so as to not be jumping through multiple incorrect moves. Masem (t) 12:03, 24 July 2023 (UTC)
- And as where to split, the old Twitter article should cover up to Musk's acquisition, and briefly summarize the transition to X under him. The X page should make reference to Musk's plans for an X app when he tried to change PayPal as part of the bg. Masem (t) 13:04, 24 July 2023 (UTC)
- It should be a split, but let's wait a day or so and make sure what it is actually going to be called so as to not be jumping through multiple incorrect moves. Masem (t) 12:03, 24 July 2023 (UTC)
- Wait per WP:NAMECHANGE. --魔琴 (Zauber Violino) (talk) 14:26, 24 July 2023 (UTC)
- Not done: page move requests should be made at Wikipedia:Requested moves. ☀DefenderTienMinh⛤☯☽ (talk) 16:33, 24 July 2023 (UTC)
'X (...)' disambiguation
I agree with the above that we need to not rush into it, but a more better question for now is, what should the article be renamed to? Some have mentioned X (social network) but I'm not sure that's the best descriptor. How about X (website), or X (service)? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 185.69.145.68 (talk • contribs) 16:25, 24 July 2023 (UTC)
- Not done: page move requests should be made at Wikipedia:Requested moves. ☀DefenderTienMinh⛤☯☽ (talk) 16:30, 24 July 2023 (UTC)
- Right now. "Social network" makes sense as that is also how Threads is disambiguated. If Musk adds in other features (wanting X to be equivalent of WeChat) then maybe a move to "service" will make sense, but not now. Masem (t) 16:31, 24 July 2023 (UTC)
I am unsure if we should listen to Musk
We should keep this pages name as "Twitter" because "X" causes more confusion and it seems as if this rebranding could be undone within a day if it is a failure. Due to ongoing trends, it will most likely be a failure. WiinterU (talk) 16:30, 24 July 2023 (UTC)
- We also have precedent to keep using an old name if that's the WP:COMMONNAME, such as how we still use the name 8chan for a site that hasn't used that name for years. CJ-Moki (talk) 16:39, 24 July 2023 (UTC)
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