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Nomination of Spider-Man: Lotus for deletion

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Mass move/translation of foreign-language titles to English.

Moved from Wikipedia:Teahouse § Translating foreign film/television titles to English

Hi there, I've recently noticed that User:Artemis Andromeda has been moving/translating numerous foreign-language television and film titles to English. Many of these are obscure, so it's not clear to me in what language they are more commonly known to English readers. The editor in question has been somewhat reticent on the subject, as can be seen here: Talk:07 Come In#Name change, so I thought I would try and find out whether these types of moves are approved/recommended, or if a stop should be put to the activity. Thanks! Revirvlkodlaku (talk) 03:56, 23 September 2023 (UTC)

As far as I'm aware, it is indeed WP:COMMONNAME. The official name may be the same thing, but it is not necessarily. So, the assertion that the official name is automatically the best one is erroneous. It probably is the best name in many cases, but that doesn't make moving a great many articles automatically to those names a good idea? imo? ~Cheers, TenTonParasol 04:20, 23 September 2023 (UTC)

@Ten, what do you suggest be done with this? Revirvlkodlaku (talk) 03:04, 24 September 2023 (UTC)

Wikipedia: Naming conventions (use English) Artemis Andromeda (talk) 15:20, 24 September 2023 (UTC)

Also, WP:COMMONNAME. They're potentially competing, but MY general understanding of both conventions is that one is to use the most common name in English sources—which, as I stated above, is probably the English names but not automatically. The "use English" convention doesn't necessarily mean we translate every title into English. After all, we don't have the article at The Miserable Ones. Other examples are La Belle et la Bête (opera), Entre a Mi Mundo, Dil Se... My understanding is to use what the subject is called in English, which is sometimes a name that isn't in English. Personally, I'm confident the articles moved are most commonly known by the translated title in English sources, thus the move is appropriate, but the point I'm making is about more the Principle Of The Thing. I wouldn't move all of them back immediately but open quick sections on the talk pages to survey English sources for the most common name just for process reasons. ~Cheers, TenTonParasol 16:16, 24 September 2023 (UTC)

I would argue that Wikipedia: Naming conventions (use English) is entirely consistent with WP:COMMONNAME. WP:ENGLISH does not require that an article always uses an English-language version of the title, but rather the version that is most common in English-language sources. If sources stick with the non-English title, such as the case with Amour (2012 film) then so be it. Betty Logan (talk) 17:26, 24 September 2023 (UTC)

It is also my understanding. ~Cheers, TenTonParasol 18:23, 24 September 2023 (UTC)

Same. We go with the title that's actually seen in English-language sources. Foreign films often do have a different title in English than they do in their original language, but they don't always have a different title in English — the Canadian film Incendies, for example, never changed its title for English markets, and just stayed Incendies everywhere it screened. So we reflect what the sources are saying: we use an English-language title if that's what's reflected in English-language sources, but we leave it at the original title if the original title is what's reflected in English-language sources (and also if there are multiple titles seen in English-language sources so that there's a conflict over what is or isn't the "proper" English title). Bearcat (talk) 18:35, 24 September 2023 (UTC)

Perfect, so now that we've established the point, I wonder, does there seem to be any incentive to review the moves performed by User:Artemis Andromeda? Revirvlkodlaku (talk) 21:09, 24 September 2023 (UTC)

@Ten, @Betty Logan, @Bearcat? Revirvlkodlaku (talk) 02:53, 27 September 2023 (UTC)

To TIFF or not to TIFF

Bit of a situation that may require ongoing monitoring.

A few days ago, an editor tried to add an Indian-Bangladeshi film, Mujib: The Making of a Nation, to the Special Presentations lineup at 2023 Toronto International Film Festival — however, TIFF's own self-published calendar shows absolutely no trace of that film screening at TIFF at all. I searched for both the film's stated and "working" titles, and for the name of the director just in case it had a completely different title here, and there's just zip. I suppose there's a remote possibility that it was a late addition to Industry Selects, because those films aren't in that main calendar due to their "industry-only, no public ticket sales" status, but that's not promising because it isn't actually in the separate Industry Selects list either.

Meanwhile, there are Indian and Bangladeshi news sources claiming the film screened at TIFF, but absolutely none of the sources that covered any of TIFF's program lineup announcements in July and August name that film, or its director, as having been part of any program announcement either. (Not even the sources that covered Industry Selects, either.) These sources further claim that it screened at Lightbox 7, which is a pretty impressive trick given that the Lightbox only has 5 screens — you've gotta screen at the Scotiabank, not the Lightbox, if you want to get the word TIFF and the number 7 into the same sentence.

Realistically, my best theory at this point is that maybe some Indian or Bangladeshi film PR flack sent out a press release claiming that the film screened at TIFF as a publicity stunt, and some Indian/Bangladeshi media bit without verifying. At least, that's much likelier than TIFF screening a film while somehow completely forgetting to name it in any programming announcements or list it on the ticket-buyers calendar at all, and yet the film somehow sold out anyway, as the Indian-Bangladeshi sources claim. But I just can't find a shred of evidence that this was actually screened at TIFF at all, so the film's and the festival's articles may require monitoring to ensure that the claim doesn't get readded without better verification. Bearcat (talk) 17:30, 24 September 2023 (UTC)

There does appear to be something called a Cinema 7 at Lightbox, at least according to this page, but I'm not familiar enough with the venue to understand what that means specifically. And, really, that is not helping verify that this showed at TIFF. I AM incredibly baffled to find at The Business Standard: "The film will be screened at 6:30 PM (Canadian local time) at the Bell Lightbox Cinema 7, as per the High Commission of Canada to Bangladesh's post on X," which I can't find anything from that Commission's Twitter, but it DID lead me to a tweet from Khalilur Rahman—who is of the High Commission of Bangladesh to Canada? Which, just makes me really confused? ~Cheers, TenTonParasol 18:48, 24 September 2023 (UTC)

Probably a market screening. Nardog (talk) 19:13, 24 September 2023 (UTC)

Okay, there's definitely no regular Cinema 7 at the Lightbox, but upon investigation it looks like a couple of the much smaller 60 to 70 seat studio rooms get temporarily designated as "6" and "7" during the festival as extra venues for Industry Selects titles that only need to accommodate a few dozen people rather than several hundred, but never for public screenings of any official selection films (which I wouldn't have known since I'm not eligible to attend Industry Selects screenings.) So yeah, a private industry screening is still in the mix of possibilities here, but there's still the problem that we need a proper source — and the problem that even if a private industry screening does turn out to be the truth, private industry screenings don't even count as premieres anyway. Bearcat (talk) 19:18, 24 September 2023 (UTC)

Expend4bles

Regarding Expend4bles, an editor has unilaterally moved it to The Expendables 4, and now there is an RM discussion to move it back. This seems inappropriate and flipped around; the editor should have started a RM discussion to make the move. There's no reason for it to be the other way around. Can an admin (or someone better with page-moving) undo this mess? Erik (talk | contrib) ^{(ping me)} 14:32, 25 September 2023 (UTC)

FWIW Wikipedia:Requested moves/Technical requests#Requests to revert undiscussed moves is thataway. Nardog (talk) 16:06, 25 September 2023 (UTC)

Thanks! I was trying to find that, but I overlooked it since it's not in the TOC. Not sure if it's too late since flipping the current RM discussion would make opposes and supports confusing. Erik (talk | contrib) ^{(ping me)} 19:05, 25 September 2023 (UTC)

Oppenheimer

Regarding Oppenheimer (film), there is an ongoing issue with the lead section and how it covers the overall critical reception. See discussion here: Talk:Oppenheimer (film)#Critical reception in lead section. Erik (talk | contrib) ^{(ping me)} 16:38, 26 September 2023 (UTC)

Can anyone help locate older French sources?

Today I made some changes to Queer Palm, a sidebar award at the Cannes Film Festival, both formatting changes to improve its readability and adding missing sourcing to improve its verifiability — however, I'm having trouble locating adequate sourcing for a couple of the very oldest years where archival sourcing might very well exist that just doesn't google anymore.

• 2011 - Cannot find any viable source to support the nominees that were listed in the article; the source they were originally added with back in 2015 is now an unrecoverable deadlink, which has left me entirely unable to verify that that year's nominee list is complete and fully accurate.
• 2012 - While a source was already present in the article to support this year's nominees, it isn't ideal, as it only names six of them rather than all of them. And it's not a case of "there were actually only six nominees and the rest were made up by wikigoofballs", because its headline says there are 17 films in the Queer Palm competition before proceeding to name only six of them, and one of the films it fails to name was the fully verifiable winner (and thus was obviously in competition). And despite that source's headline saying 17 films, even our article only lists 11, so there might even be some nominees still missing.
• 2010 - Our article does not list any nominees at all this year. Given that this was the first year that the award was presented, it's possible that there just wasn't a list of nominees released at all prior to the winner announcement, but it's also possible that there was and we just missed it.

(The source for 2013's nominees is also not ideal, as it's a blog rather than real media, but unlike the 2012 source it fully matches the nominees that were sourced to it — so it could also stand to be replaced if possible, but isn't as much of an issue as the other three.)

The interlangs weren't much help, either: they all either don't list nominees at all, do list nominees but don't cite any sources for them, or list nominees sourced only to IMDb (which is not a reliable source).

So I wanted to ask if there's a project member with better access to archived French media coverage than I've got, who can do a quick search to see if they can locate improved sourcing for the nominees in those years. This only pertains to the nominees, as the winners in all three of those years have been fully sourceable. Bearcat (talk) 23:33, 27 September 2023 (UTC)

Talk:Aladdin (1992 Disney film)#Requested move 27 September 2023

Directly challenges WP:PFILM. InfiniteNexus (talk) 14:50, 28 September 2023 (UTC)

Requested move at Talk:The Town That Dreaded Sundown#Requested move 21 September 2023

There is a requested move discussion at Talk:The Town That Dreaded Sundown#Requested move 21 September 2023 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. ModernDayTrilobite (talk • contribs) 14:31, 29 September 2023 (UTC)

BFI shutting down website, moving to new search site

I haven't seen this discussed here (and apologies if this is the wrong place) but I learned this week from a query I made to BFI that it is shutting down its long-term website (random example for the 1959 film Action Stations: https://www2.bfi.org.uk/films-tv-people/4ce2b6e822633, now broken) in favour of their new search site https://collections-search.bfi.org.uk/web, which for the example film eventually gets you to https://collections-search.bfi.org.uk/web/Details/ChoiceFilmWorks/150102495 -- nb a different id number. BFI said in reply to my query "we have reduced the number of pages about films, TV programmes, people and companies that existed on the old BFI website. We are in the process of turning off this old website. A smaller number of these pages exist in a new form on the current website, for example https://www.bfi.org.uk/sight-and-sound/greatest-films-all-time". So while the old BFI web has never been the greatest source of info, and I know it is debatable whether it counts as a reliable source or not, the fact remains that this web change is going to kill an awful lot of WP links! I mentioned the id numbers above when thinking about whether a bot could automatically make edits, but it looks unlikely. Tobyhoward (talk) 18:02, 29 September 2023 (UTC)

From my experience the biggest loss is that BFI was often used to cite running lengths and occasionally genres. Nothing crucial, but certainly stuff that can sometimes be a pain to find. Thanks for the heads up. Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs ^talk 18:04, 29 September 2023 (UTC)

It was also beneficial to determine a film's "country of origin". Mike Allen 22:01, 29 September 2023 (UTC)

Lumiere is better IMO, as they have a more nuanced approach. Betty Logan (talk) 22:22, 30 September 2023 (UTC)

That's a shame. I've used it a lot for filmographies. TompaDompa (talk) 15:00, 30 September 2023 (UTC)

Is it possible to run a bot on the links we do have, to add a Wayback archive image?. It's bad enough to lose a resource like this, but if we can mitigate the loss where it is currently used that would be something. Betty Logan (talk) 22:24, 30 September 2023 (UTC)

That's a good idea. I see there already is a bot which may do this: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/InternetArchiveBot I'll investigate. Tobyhoward (talk) 08:50, 1 October 2023 (UTC)

That's definitely possible, I literally just a few days ago succeeded in getting an emergency run done to archive all citations to etcanada.com in light of the cancellation of Entertainment Tonight Canada. If you can't figure out how to do it yourself, I got expert assistance from WP:URLREQ. Bearcat (talk) 14:44, 1 October 2023 (UTC)

Thanks a lot Bearcat. Tobyhoward (talk) 15:16, 1 October 2023 (UTC)

Vertigo (film) or Vertigo (1958 film)?

A discussion at Talk:Vertigo (film)#Requested move 29 September 2023 may be of interest. —Roman Spinner (talk • contribs) 01:13, 2 October 2023 (UTC)

Requested move at Talk:Zakir Hossain Raju (professor)#Requested move 3 October 2023

There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Zakir Hossain Raju (professor)#Requested move 3 October 2023 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. UtherSRG (talk) 11:48, 3 October 2023 (UTC)

SIA-class

See also: Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Film/Archive 81 § Project-independent quality assessments 2

Hello project members! Note that per WP:PIQA, all the class ratings are being harmonised across different WikiProjects so we are looking to remove any non-standard classes like SIA-class from your project banner. Would you like to automatically reclassify these as List-class or Disambig-class perhaps? Alternatively it could just be removed and then the articles in Category:SIA-Class film articles would inherit the quality rating from other projects (or just become "unassessed" if there were no other projects) — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 09:38, 10 October 2023 (UTC)

I'm in support of removing the SIA-clas from the project. Looking at a few selections of articles in that category, I think Disambig-class would be the best to recategorize them as, but I'm don't have much stake either way if that is deemed not the right replacement. - Favre1fan93 (talk) 16:14, 10 October 2023 (UTC)

I was looking into trying to understand what a SIA even IS, and even after looking at WP:SIA, I only vaguely understand what the difference between a SIA and a disambiguation page is. A proper SIA is a list, not a disambiguation page. However, I suspect the majority of our SIAs are actually disambiguation pages. ~Cheers, TenTonParasol 16:39, 10 October 2023 (UTC)

I agree that the distinction is not very clear. From the name Set Index Article it appears that SIAs are counted as articles whereas disambiguation pages are non-articles. That would suggest that List-class might be a closer match. — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 09:31, 11 October 2023 (UTC)

Thanks for your comments. Just to note that SIA-class has been removed and SIA will now classify as List-class. — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 09:26, 17 October 2023 (UTC)

@MSGJ do you know how to update Wikipedia:WikiProject Film/Assessment/Summary so that the SIA line is removed? I can't seem to find the source of this data. Gonnym (talk) 11:59, 17 October 2023 (UTC)

Sorry I do not know how to do that — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 20:14, 23 October 2023 (UTC)

Nevermind, I found that. Not sure how I didn't find it before. Gonnym (talk) 20:20, 23 October 2023 (UTC)

Stub updates

This Petscan link should give you a list of all the film-related articles that are in the Wikipedia:Database reports/Long stubs page. At the moment, there are 10 in the list tagged by WP:FILM. Some of them might still be stubs (this happens, e.g., if there are long lists of sources). Please take a quick look at update the Wikipedia:Content assessment ratings this week. Thanks, WhatamIdoing (talk) 17:50, 11 October 2023 (UTC)

Unsourced "Notes" column in number-one box-office articles

I came across an editor earlier today adding unsourced records to articles such as this one. Looking down the "Notes" column, virtually every claim (bar one or two exceptions) is unsourced. This is symptomatic of all the articles in this series, which must amount to hundreds of unsourced claims. Clearly, box-office articles and records are not exempt from WP:V and the article cannot remain in this state, so I was wondering about how to approach this. I could go through the article tagging them, but it would mean tagging pretty much every article; I'm not a fan of tagging anyway because they never seem to address the problem unless somebody is taking an article through the GA/FA process. I could go through every single claim and remove all unsourced claims (which would be most of them). This would be a painstaking process and an unproductive use of my time.

Another solution would be to simply remove the "Notes" column completely, because it mostly invites non-relevant trivia. To take week #47 as an example, I am not sure how much encyclopedic value the claim "The Rugrats Movie broke Beavis and Butt-Head Do America's record ($20.1 million) for the highest weekend debut for a non-Disney animated film" has. It seems tangential to the topic. Pretty much the only notable on-topic information in there, is Titanic's record-equaling 15th week, which could be retained using a footnote (and with a source). Betty Logan (talk) 10:18, 18 October 2023 (UTC)

I'll bypass the question of whether to keep these or not for now, but unsourced claims, and in this volume, should be removed completely. And I also agree that if the note column is removed but some notes are kept, then {{efn}} or similar should be used. Gonnym (talk) 11:13, 18 October 2023 (UTC)

B-class criteria

Hi; I was wondering if this project still finds B-class criteria useful? (the B1-B5 ratings in the project banner)?

If so, as a result of the global switch to project-independent quality assessments, we're planning to move these B-class criteria to the WikiProject banner shell so they're not duplicated across projects. Just trying to see whether there's any interest in keeping them. DFlhb (talk) 00:23, 24 October 2023 (UTC)

Edit conflict at Godzilla Minus One

Me and @Eiga-Kevin2 are at a crossroads on how to proceed with this. On October 18, the film had its world premiere red carpet at the Godzilla Street (in Kabukichō, Shinjuku) before the Shinjuku Toho Building (says Toho Cinemas, see the article's picture) in Shinjuku, Japan. See this diff, to see how Eiga-Kevin2's phrasing and my subsequent revisions articulated the event; I also replaced the Movie Walker source with a source from Eiga.com, since it specified the time, date, and location of the premiere. Eiga-Kevin2 DM'ed me saying that the "red carpet premiere and the premiere screening are two different events that occurred at different locations" [1].

The "premiere screening" seems to be this preview screening for celebrities, according to Movie Walker. I used Google Translate and Translator by uLanguage and they both translate the same thing: "In addition, there have been many rave reviews from celebrities who have seen previews of the completed film", never calls it a premiere screening. My argument is that the world premiere and the preview are the same event. Eiga-Kevin2 provided a new source, a Tweet that seemingly confirmed my suspicions and original edits [2]. Here's the Tweet - I think it came from a manga artist? - but it proves that the preview was held at the same date/time (October 18 at 6:30pm) and location (Toho Cinemas in Shinjuku) as the red carpet premiere.

It says AM on the post due to the US/Japan time difference. Here's a video that proves that the red carpet premiere was held at some evening time, likely before the 6:30 screening, and proves the theater location from that Tweet. They're the same event but Eiga-Kevin2 argues that they're not. Armegon (talk) 02:13, 24 October 2023 (UTC)

Film studios

Wanted to ask for project input on a category problem.

While obviously I understand that there's a genuine distinction between a film soundstage or backlot facility and a film production company, in actual practice the category system's distinction between Category:Film studios (which is, at least in theory, meant for facilities) and Category:Film production companies is just utterly failing to respect or uphold it at all — in the real world, "studio" is so widely used in both senses that the entire "studios" tree is just teeming with entries that are more properly described as production companies, and in fact many, though not necessarily all, of them are dual-catted as both studios and production companies at the same time.

Obviously this needs to be resolved somehow: we need to either more strictly uphold the distinction between a facility and a production company, or just blow it right up if we can't. So I wanted to ask for opinions about which direction we should go in:

1. Rename the "studios" tree to something more explicitly "soundstage/backlot facilities, not companies" and purge it of the entries that aren't that, or
2. Just merge both the "studios" and "production companies" trees together into one common category on the grounds that trying to keep the distinction is going to be more trouble than it's worth?

Any input? Bearcat (talk) 21:20, 24 October 2023 (UTC)

Release date and year of the film "Eaten Alive"

There are conflicting reliable sources on the release year and date of the film "Eaten Alive". For example, Rotten Tomatoes lists the release year as 1976, while AFI lists a release year of 1977 (with a premier date of November 30, 1977). The article also currently cites October 18, 1976, as the release date, citing AFI, but I cannot find any WP:RS to support this, and it is in direct conflict with what AFI actually says. These conflicting sources have resulted in disagreements among editors. Thanks! Wikipedialuva (talk) 21:21, 24 October 2023 (UTC)

On a newspapers.com search, I'm finding some hits for it screening as early as April 1977, albeit mainly in advertisements or calendar listings, and there's even one hit for a film called "Eaten Alive" screening in Fort Myers, FL in March 1977, though it doesn't name the director for full verifiability — an April 29, 1977 ad in the Orlando Sentinel is the first hit I get that explicitly names both Eaten Alive and Tobe Hooper in the same place, and then it gets its first full-on GNG-worthy film review a few days later in the Miami Herald. (I already pulled a clipping, if you want it.) So November 1977 isn't right, because there is evidence of it screening at least six to eight months earlier than that, but I'm certainly not finding anything whatsoever to support an October 1976 premiere. In that entire month, the only hits I get for "eaten alive" anywhere on earth are of either the literal "bitten by insects or alligators" or metaphorical "utterly stomped on by an opponent in sports" varieties, with nothing related to a film at all. Bearcat (talk) 21:32, 24 October 2023 (UTC)

Regardless of what date is actually correct, prior to editing, the page claimed 1976 in the article in multiple places but 1977 in the short description. Both obviously cannot be correct, but having different information in the main article vs. the short description ensures the article as a whole will always be wrong. If the date stated in the article is provably incorrect, it should obviously be corrected, but that needs to be done in all relevant places at once, including the main article, the short description, and the Tobe Hooper director template (which also listed 1977, thus making it also inconsistent with the article on the film itself). 24.251.3.86 (talk) 06:45, 25 October 2023 (UTC)

Nomination of List of Mission: Impossible film locations for deletion

A discussion is taking place as to whether the article List of Mission: Impossible film locations is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of Mission: Impossible film locations until a consensus is reached, and anyone, including you, is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article until the discussion has finished.

InfiniteNexus (talk) 23:46, 24 October 2023 (UTC)