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Jesus calls is a global non profit humanitarian christian ministry. It was deleted from live without any reason. Pls can you help restore the article. Below is the draft link https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Jesus_Calls_(2) ([[User:Spectacularpelican|Spectacularpelican]] ([[User talk:Spectacularpelican|talk]]) 10:31, 14 May 2024 (UTC)) |
Jesus calls is a global non profit humanitarian christian ministry. It was deleted from live without any reason. Pls can you help restore the article. Below is the draft link https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Jesus_Calls_(2) ([[User:Spectacularpelican|Spectacularpelican]] ([[User talk:Spectacularpelican|talk]]) 10:31, 14 May 2024 (UTC)) |
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:Well the last delete of the article was because it was classed as advertising. Wikipedia cannot be used for promotion. Note there is also [[Draft:Jesus Calls]]. Are you connected with or paid by this ministry? If so then you should make a disclosure. [[User:Graeme Bartlett|Graeme Bartlett]] ([[User talk:Graeme Bartlett#top|talk]]) 11:17, 14 May 2024 (UTC) |
:Well the last delete of the article was because it was classed as advertising. Wikipedia cannot be used for promotion. Note there is also [[Draft:Jesus Calls]]. Are you connected with or paid by this ministry? If so then you should make a disclosure. [[User:Graeme Bartlett|Graeme Bartlett]] ([[User talk:Graeme Bartlett#top|talk]]) 11:17, 14 May 2024 (UTC) |
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Hi Sir, I have not been paid a cent for my edits nor am i employed with the ministry. But I feel its humanitarian causes are worthy. I agree that the earlier article might have been deleted because of promotion. But they have not given any reason why this current article was moved to draft. In my humble opinion, I don't think this article was promotional. Pls could you help https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Jesus_Calls_(2) ([[User:Spectacularpelican|Spectacularpelican]] ([[User talk:Spectacularpelican|talk]]) 12:48, 14 May 2024 (UTC)) |
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Moving to mainspace
Please move Draft:L2: Empuraan to mainspace as the film has started principal photography. L2: Empuraan is salted. It is a highly anticipated film in the Malyalam film industry, that's why several articles were created by different editors. There is also another Draft:L2:Empuraan, I don't know what to do about that. Please check if there is anymore parallels. The Doom Patrol (talk) 09:47, 13 November 2023 (UTC)
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If you don't mind, could you undelete Our Miracle and redirect it to Bokura no Kiseki (which is about the same series; the former was deleted at AfD in 2016). It's history might have some content useful for expanding the article. Thanks. Link20XX (talk) 05:31, 14 November 2023 (UTC)
Hi I have a question, I see that this page has been redirected to an existing page. Is there much to go on for merging pages? Crafterstar (talk) 23:28, 14 November 2023 (UTC)
- @Crafterstar: there are no deleted revisions, and your work was already undeleted, visible in the history of the redirect. The article looks to be different text from the draft, so merging is unwarranted. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 03:27, 15 November 2023 (UTC)
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Needed chemistry articles
Can you suggest two or 3 really needed chemistry/materials science articles so I can make a start writing them please? GRALISTAIR (talk) 15:47, 16 November 2023 (UTC)
- I don't think there are any "really" needed articles to write. But from my to-do list there could be N-acetyltaurine, Sodium tetraethyl borate, Difluoramine, Fluoramine, thiophanic acid. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 21:47, 16 November 2023 (UTC)
- There are some lists around, eg User:Physchim62/Organics; User:Skysmith/Missing topics about Chemistry, User:Graeme Bartlett/missing chemicals (still under construction). Graeme Bartlett (talk) 22:03, 16 November 2023 (UTC)
- Thanks GRALISTAIR (talk) 22:12, 16 November 2023 (UTC)
- I also have a very incomplete list at User:Graeme Bartlett/missing chemists if you are into biography writing. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 22:30, 16 November 2023 (UTC)
- There are some lists around, eg User:Physchim62/Organics; User:Skysmith/Missing topics about Chemistry, User:Graeme Bartlett/missing chemicals (still under construction). Graeme Bartlett (talk) 22:03, 16 November 2023 (UTC)
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- Deliberate. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 06:09, 13 December 2023 (UTC)
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Hello Graeme Bartlett: Enjoy the holiday season and winter solstice if it's occurring in your area of the world, and thanks for your work to maintain, improve and expand Wikipedia. Cheers, --Dustfreeworld (talk) 13:27, 25 December 2023 (UTC)
I had the first page on my watchlist, when I realised that someone had redirected it, alrgely because of the typo. Looks like a major copy paste, with the only differences being a few sources. Even everything else including the categories in the same order. Can they be merged? Crafterstar (talk) 22:19, 27 December 2023 (UTC)
- It appears content was copied from Pirates of the Caribbean (film series), which is attributed in the edit summary. That makes no sense to merge, so probably best to attribute by way of writing on the bottom of the page. Categories I will say are not sufficient for copyright to apply. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 00:48, 28 December 2023 (UTC)
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Unprotecting Gianni Schicchi
Hi Graeme Bartlett. An editor requested unprotecting this on WP:RPPD. Do you have any issues with unprotecting it? It looks like you semi-protected it way back in 2017 and there are no recent signs of disruption. I forgot to check that you had been contacted by the editor before unprotecting it, but I will reprotect it if you have any concerns. We could also try pending changes protection as an intermediate step. Thanks and sorry for not making sure you were contacted first. Daniel Quinlan (talk) 04:12, 8 January 2024 (UTC)
- I don't mind. I will keep an eye out for disruption on that page though. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 04:14, 8 January 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks. Daniel Quinlan (talk) 04:19, 8 January 2024 (UTC)
NPP Awards for 2023
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For over 360 article reviews during 2023. Well done! Keep up the good work and thank you! Dr vulpes (Talk) 02:50, 10 January 2024 (UTC) |
Happy First Edit Day!
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Question from ArtForYouKiev and request for help
Dear Graeme Bartlett, good evening!
Thank you for viewing the article Max Vityk
I wanted to ask you for help in solving a question related to the article, which arose due to my inexperience. If possible, of course.
I accidentally posted an article about Max Vityk in the Ukrainian Wikipedia, because of which it was already indexed in search engines with an English name. The article was in English and was naturally removed from space.
Now, the article in the Ukrainian Wikipedia was already correctly designed and posted with correct name, but the English version does not appear when searching in the search engine, and the deletion in the Ukrainian with the same name appears.
What can be done to correct English version starts to appear on request, and not a non-existent page?
I will be very grateful for the answer and help, because in the future I will work on many articles and so that such mistakes do not occur again.
Thank you very much, I wish you a nice evening! ArtForYouKiev (talk) 22:31, 23 January 2024 (UTC)
- @ArtForYouKiev: when I do a search for that name, I get the English Wikipedia article in third position and no listing for Ukrainian version. I see a UK version at https://uk.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%9C%D0%B0%D0%BA%D1%81_%D0%92%D1%96%D1%82%D0%B8%D0%BA . Searching "Макс Вітик" comes up with UK Wikipedia as first hit for me. Note that Google customises results for each person, so it probably thinks you like UK wiki content. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 22:44, 23 January 2024 (UTC)
- Understand. Thank you very much for the information and quick response! I wish you a good and productive day! ArtForYouKiev (talk) 22:48, 23 January 2024 (UTC)
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User question
Hello,
In this discussion, doesn't the user that wanted to restore the Kurdish Republic of Lachin article have no right to do so? The articles was previously deleted and there was no consensus to restore it. The user also shouldn't be restoring articles like this because they are not extended confirmed per WP:GS/AA. KhndzorUtogh (talk) 23:29, 29 January 2024 (UTC)
- Well perhaps AE does not apply, as it applies to politics and conflicts. The page does not seem to be disputed by anyone currently, so does not appear controversial. However it was deleted before because of poor sources. A G5 delete is not appropriate as there is more than one contributor. Is there a problem with the article in terms of not supported by its references? Graeme Bartlett (talk) 03:13, 30 January 2024 (UTC)
- The sources on the article are largely based on one source, which makes WP:EXTRAORDINARY claims. But on top of that, this user should not even be editing the article according to the GS/AA restrictions, which require the article to be redirected. This user is not allowed to edit the article, let alone make reverts on it. They’re violating the most important rule for non extended confirmed users in AA which covers this article. KhndzorUtogh (talk) 22:57, 31 January 2024 (UTC)
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Hallo Graeme Bartlett, please could you undelete Draft:Makita AWS (or move to userspace) — the article was mostly written about three years ago, and never quite got finished/migrated. (Contacting you as one of the previous deleters/refunders). Appreciations in advance, —12:56, 8 February 2024 (UTC) Sladen (talk) 12:56, 8 February 2024 (UTC)
- @Graeme Bartlett: ? —14:37, 9 February 2024 (UTC)
- Done – as a draft that was deleted under CSD G13, the page has been restored upon request. However, the draft namespace, though it is intended to provide some breathing room to create and develop a page without the time pressure of immediate review, is not for the indefinite hosting of material that is unsuitable for inclusion in the article mainspace. Please continue to work on the draft so that it meets Wikipedia's policies and guidelines for inclusion and then submit it for review—at the least, prior to another six months elapsing. When you are ready, a review can be requested by placing this code at the top of the page and then saving:
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. @Sladen: you had better do something this time. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 23:10, 9 February 2024 (UTC)
- Done – as a draft that was deleted under CSD G13, the page has been restored upon request. However, the draft namespace, though it is intended to provide some breathing room to create and develop a page without the time pressure of immediate review, is not for the indefinite hosting of material that is unsuitable for inclusion in the article mainspace. Please continue to work on the draft so that it meets Wikipedia's policies and guidelines for inclusion and then submit it for review—at the least, prior to another six months elapsing. When you are ready, a review can be requested by placing this code at the top of the page and then saving:
Your rating of the article on George Pusenkoff
Dear Graeme, you rated this article with "C". On the Content assessment-site it reads: "Useful to a casual reader, but would not provide a complete picture for even a moderately detailed study." - Could you be so kind to tell me, what you are missing from this article, i really couldn't have covered more of his work, i did cover all. And i had inline citations, etc. - honestly, i was quite surprised about this rating. Some of my articles are rated "B" and i find this one as good as them. Kind regards, Naomi Hennig (talk) 16:48, 8 February 2024 (UTC)
- @Naomi Hennig: B needs a more careful assessment. But there would have to be some media like a picture of the painter to rate a B. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 21:01, 8 February 2024 (UTC)
- Dear Graeme, i don't want to get on your nerves - so, if you are busy and don't have time for this, i completely understand. We do have a problem in Germany with the photographers and artists guild "VG-BildKunst" (this organisation advocates for their rights) - they don't allow us anymore to upload pictures of artwork in wikimedia commons as they don't like the cc 4.0 license... understandable, but unfortunate for the articles... i could look at the homepage of the artist and ask him whether he is in this guild etc. - one question still, what means a "more careful assessment" - is there something i could do for future articles to help with this? As said: if you are busy and don't have time for this, i completely understand! Kind regards, --Naomi Hennig (talk) 21:39, 8 February 2024 (UTC)
January 2024 NPP backlog drive – Points award
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I can't recreate the article since I don't have access to the existing sources and my desktop access is limited. But I promise you it is not advertising in tone. I also found a few more sources, could you please restore it at least as a draft so I can add them? Kailash29792 (talk) 08:14, 29 February 2024 (UTC)
- You will have to talk to the person who deleted it, user talk:Deb if you disagree. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 09:36, 29 February 2024 (UTC)
- But it looks as if Deb has already put it in Draft:Senbaga Thottam for you. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 09:37, 29 February 2024 (UTC)
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Please check page Acromelic acid A
It might be genuine. However, it was also created by user AcroA which is in fact a link to Acromelic acid A. (I think you are active with different chemical compounds in Wikipedia; if not ping me and I will post to WT:Chemistry.) Ldm1954 (talk) 22:21, 7 March 2024 (UTC)
- @Ldm1954 The article is fine. The chembox had some incorrect formatting, which I've fixed. Thanks for pointing this out. Mike Turnbull (talk) 22:35, 7 March 2024 (UTC)
Undelete Pikmin article
What was on the Bulborb, Wildlife of Pikmin, Snitchbug articles? Wanting to request the histories as userpage drafts, possibly for eventual inclusion into Wikibooks 2005-Fan (talk) 17:33, 11 March 2024 (UTC)
- Userfied – the page has been restored to the userspace at User:2005-Fan/Wildlife of Pikmin. Userfied – the page has been restored to the userspace at User:2005-Fan/Snitchbug. @2005-Fan: the first of your requests has nothing as it was renamed to the second. You could look back in history to see prior to a move. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 02:59, 12 March 2024 (UTC)
- Thank you again! They've been added over to Wikibooks. Was Bulborbs always a redirect itself? Are you able to userify Piklopedia and Treasures (Pikmin) for me to also add over to Wikibooks? And also userify The Spirit Guide and Jalhalla for the Zelda franchise strategy guide wikibook? Lastly, I was wondering if you could restore the page history of Poe Sisters, which had The Legend of Zelda content prior to deletion. 2005-Fan (talk) 13:37, 12 March 2024 (UTC)
- Userfied – the page has been restored to the userspace at User:2005-Fan/Wildlife of Pikmin. Userfied – the page has been restored to the userspace at User:2005-Fan/Snitchbug. @2005-Fan: the first of your requests has nothing as it was renamed to the second. You could look back in history to see prior to a move. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 02:59, 12 March 2024 (UTC)
- @2005-Fan: Bulborbs was only ever a redirect.
- Userfied – the page has been restored to the userspace at User:2005-Fan/Piklopedia.
- Userfied – the page has been restored to the userspace at User:2005-Fan/Treasure (Pikmin). (note no plural)
- Userfied – the page has been restored to the userspace at User:2005-Fan/The Spirit Guide.
- Userfied – the page has been restored to the userspace at User:2005-Fan/Jalhalla.
- Userfied – the page has been restored to the userspace at User:2005-Fan/Poe Sisters. (I split this off as it was different topic to current article) Graeme Bartlett (talk) 21:26, 12 March 2024 (UTC)
- Thank you again! 2005-Fan (talk) 21:52, 12 March 2024 (UTC)
- is it ok if the history for bomb-rocks is undeleted? They are mentioned on the gameplay section of the Pikmin article, so I believe the redirect is valid. 2005-Fan (talk) 22:05, 12 March 2024 (UTC)
RFA2024 update: no longer accepting new proposals in phase I
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- Proposals 6c and 6d, initiated by BilledMammal, provide for allowing users to be selected as provisional admins for a limited time through various concrete selection criteria and smaller-scale vetting.
- Proposal 7, initiated by Lee Vilenski, provides for the "General discussion" section being broken up with section headings.
- Proposal 9b, initiated by Reaper Eternal, provides for the requirement that allegations of policy violation be substantiated with appropriate links to where the alleged misconduct occured.
- Proposals 12c, 21, and 21b, initiated by City of Silver, Ritchie333, and HouseBlaster, respectively, provide for reducing the discretionary zone, which currently extends from 65% to 75%. The first would reduce it 65%–70%, the second would reduce it to 50%–66%, and the third would reduce it to 60%–70%.
- Proposal 13, initiated by Novem Lingaue, provides for periodic, privately balloted admin elections.
- Proposal 14, initiated by Kusma, provides for the creation of some minimum suffrage requirements to cast a vote.
- Proposals 16 and 16c, initiated by Thebiguglyalien and Soni, respectively, provide for community-based admin desysop procedures. 16 would desysop where consensus is established in favor at the administrators' noticeboard; 16c would allow a petition to force reconfirmation.
- Proposal 16e, initiated by BilledMammal, would extend the recall procedures of 16 to bureaucrats.
- Proposal 17, initiated by SchroCat, provides for "on-call" admins and 'crats to monitor RfAs for decorum.
- Proposal 18, initiated by theleekycauldron, provides for lowering the RfB target from 85% to 75%.
- Proposal 24, initiated by SportingFlyer, provides for a more robust alternate version of the optional candidate poll.
- Proposal 25, initiated by Femke, provides for the requirement that nominees be extended-confirmed in addition to their nominators.
- Proposal 27, initiated by WereSpielChequers, provides for the creation of a training course for admin hopefuls, as well as periodic retraining to keep admins from drifting out of sync with community norms.
- Proposal 28, initiated by HouseBlaster, tightens restrictions on multi-part questions.
To read proposals that were closed as unsuccessful, please see Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/2024 review/Phase I/Closed proposals. You are cordially invited once again to participate in the open discussions; when phase I ends, phase II will review the outcomes of trial proposals and refine the implementation details of other proposals. Another notification will be sent out when this phase begins, likely with the first successful close of a major proposal. Happy editing! theleekycauldron (talk • she/her), via:
MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 10:53, 14 March 2024 (UTC)
Nomination of Zsuzsanna Sirokay for deletion
The article will be discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Zsuzsanna Sirokay until a consensus is reached, and anyone, including you, is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.
Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article until the discussion has finished.WikiDan61ChatMe!ReadMe!! 15:14, 18 March 2024 (UTC)
Removing 'Advert' tag from Vincent Callebaut
I removed the {{Advert}}
tag you placed on Vincent Callebaut on December 31, 2015. I looked at the accumulated changes since you placed the tag [1], and the current state of the article, and judged that the problem has been corrected. I won't object if you think there are still concerns to be flagged. signed, Willondon (talk) 15:23, 3 April 2024 (UTC)
John Paul (scientist) - draft deleted article
Hi Graeme. I'm a beginner and spent months preparing an article for Wikipedia. I then spent hours reworking it in response to comments from your editors. Even if you won't restore it then please can you email me a copy of the edited version just prior to deletion so that all my hard work (and that of the reviewers) is not wasted. I had a comment on my citations from a Wikipedia editor, and asked the editor for clarification and advice. A few minutes later my article was recommended for speedy deletion. It was then speedy deleted before I had a chance to do anything. I had quoted in this article from sources that I have obtained copyright from (both the author and the University). I understand the issue was over a copyright infringement I had by quoting an Independent article. I didn't quote anything from the Independent. I only cited an obituary about the scientist. To be honest, I'm still no entirely clear why it was deleted so quickly. So if you can also help advise on this then that would be appreciated. But first and foremost I would like to get a copy of the article before deletion. Some information has been retrieved but it is only a tiny part of what was there. Thank you. Gcwcd (talk) 17:32, 9 April 2024 (UTC)
Happy Adminship Anniversary!
Happy adminship anniversary! Hi Graeme Bartlett! On behalf of the Birthday Committee, I'd like to wish you a very happy anniversary of your successful request for adminship. Enjoy this special day! The Herald (Benison) (talk) 02:34, 2 May 2024 (UTC) |
RFA2024 update: phase I concluded, phase II begins
Hi there! Phase I of the Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/2024 review has concluded, with several impactful changes gaining community consensus and proceeding to various stages of implementation. Some proposals will be implemented in full outright; others will be discussed at phase II before being implemented; and still others will proceed on a trial basis before being brought to phase II. The following proposals have gained consensus:
- Proposals 2 and 9b (phase II discussion): Add a reminder of civility norms at RfA and Require links for claims of specific policy violations
- Proposal 3b (in trial): Make the first two days discussion-only
- Proposal 13 (in trial): Admin elections
- Proposal 14 (implemented): Suffrage requirements
- Proposals 16 and 16c (phase II discussion): Allow the community to initiate recall RfAs and Community recall process based on dewiki
- Proposal 17 (phase II discussion): Have named Admins/crats to monitor infractions
- Proposal 24 (phase II discussion): Provide better mentoring for becoming an admin and the RfA process
- Proposal 25 (implemented): Require nominees to be extended confirmed
See the project page for a full list of proposals and their outcomes. A huge thank-you to everyone who has participated so far :) looking forward to seeing lots of hard work become a reality in phase II. theleekycauldron (talk), via MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 08:09, 5 May 2024 (UTC)
Jesus calls
Jesus calls is a global non profit humanitarian christian ministry. It was deleted from live without any reason. Pls can you help restore the article. Below is the draft link https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Jesus_Calls_(2) (Spectacularpelican (talk) 10:31, 14 May 2024 (UTC))
- Well the last delete of the article was because it was classed as advertising. Wikipedia cannot be used for promotion. Note there is also Draft:Jesus Calls. Are you connected with or paid by this ministry? If so then you should make a disclosure. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 11:17, 14 May 2024 (UTC)
Hi Sir, I have not been paid a cent for my edits nor am i employed with the ministry. But I feel its humanitarian causes are worthy. I agree that the earlier article might have been deleted because of promotion. But they have not given any reason why this current article was moved to draft. In my humble opinion, I don't think this article was promotional. Pls could you help https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Jesus_Calls_(2) (Spectacularpelican (talk) 12:48, 14 May 2024 (UTC))