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== WP:FORUM discussion ==
== WP:FORUM discussion ==


Hello, Malinaccier. Since you're an administrator, I would like to ask for your advice on the recent actions I made to [[Talk:International reaction to the 2008 Kosovo declaration of independence|this article talk page]]. I recently [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:International_reaction_to_the_2008_Kosovo_declaration_of_independence&diff=236113968&oldid=236113394 reverted] [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:International_reaction_to_the_2008_Kosovo_declaration_of_independence&oldid=236105507#South_Ossetia numerous edits] by three users who were, as I see it, violating the [[WP:FORUM]] policy. I reverted their edits and placed a notice on the talk pages of the involved users and the article talk page as you can see from the diff above. [[User:Ijanderson977|Ijanderson977]] disagrees with my decision to revert arguing that he has placed a warning on the article talk page, which was addressed to the two other parties involved. He has reverted my edit but chose to strike his comments this time. I have reverted his edit again arguing that he can place the warning on the usertalk pages of the individual users involved, with which [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:AVand&diff=236121011&oldid=236119884 he disagreed] and again reverted to the previous revision. I would like to ask whether I did the right thing reverting in the first place or not. If so, I would like you to explain the [[WP:FORUM]] policy to [[User:Ijanderson977|Ijanderson977]] and undo his edit. Otherwise, please explain what I'm doing wrong. Thank you in advance. [[User:AVand|<font color="#000000">'''A'''</font><font color="#FF0000">'''Vand'''</font>]][[User Talk:AVand|<sup><font color="blue">talk</font></sup>]][[Special:Contributions/AVand|<sub><font color="green">contribs</font></sub>]] 22:57, 3 September 2008 (UTC)
Hello, Malinaccier. Since you're an administrator, I would like to ask for your advice on the recent actions I made to [[Talk:International reaction to the 2008 Kosovo declaration of independence|this article talk page]]. I recently [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:International_reaction_to_the_2008_Kosovo_declaration_of_independence&diff=236113968&oldid=236113394 reverted] [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:International_reaction_to_the_2008_Kosovo_declaration_of_independence&oldid=236105507#South_Ossetia numerous edits] by three users who were, as I see it, violating the [[WP:FORUM]] policy. I reverted their edits and placed a notice on the talk pages of the involved users and the article talk page as you can see from the diff above. [[User:Ijanderson977|Ijanderson977]] disagrees with my decision to revert arguing that he has placed a warning on the article talk page, which was addressed to the two other parties involved. He has reverted my edit but chose to strike his comments this time. I have reverted his edit again arguing that he can place the warning on the usertalk pages of the individual users involved, with which [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:AVand&diff=236121011&oldid=236119884 he disagreed] and again reverted to the previous revision. I would like to ask you whether I did the right thing reverting in the first place or not. If so, I would like you to explain the [[WP:FORUM]] policy to [[User:Ijanderson977|Ijanderson977]] and undo his edit. Otherwise, please explain what I'm doing wrong. Thank you in advance. [[User:AVand|<font color="#000000">'''A'''</font><font color="#FF0000">'''Vand'''</font>]][[User Talk:AVand|<sup><font color="blue">talk</font></sup>]][[Special:Contributions/AVand|<sub><font color="green">contribs</font></sub>]] 22:57, 3 September 2008 (UTC)

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User:Malinaccier/Header

Around the World

On the height matching chore on the images, the L's through the R's at Wikipedia:WikiProject Lists of basic topics still need to be done. It would sure help if you would finish these up.

By the way, some of the images done so far have gotten too big. Just keep in mind when you are matching up image heights, please be sure to reduce the size of the larger image to match the height of the smaller image.

Unless this would make them ridiculously small. Use your best judgement.

Thank you.

The Transhumanist    03:30, 18 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]


P.S.: one of the 3 award images is completed, and the other 2 are starting to look gooood. It won't be much longer now. But the country pages still need to be prepped as well. And because there's this pesky bot removing stuff from the pages, we're going to need to move them all to article space before the competition starts. But for that to happen, certain sections need to be completed: the lead section, the region section, and the government branches sections. The latter two contain temporary data that isn't correct for all countries (and we can't move them to article space until that's corrected and the empty regions subsections are filled. That's why they're included on the prep list. Once the awards are ready and the pages are prepped (and moved), the competition can begin!

Question

I have two questions.

Quick question

Hey man, will you hop on IRC for a second? I wanted to ask you something. GlassCobra 16:54, 23 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Bah, never mind. :P GlassCobra 17:12, 23 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Trixie Koontz

Hi there, I see you removed the Trixie Koontz section from the Dean Koontz page. While I agree that his dog is off topic, it was agreed on the talk page and during a few deletion discussions that Trixie shouldn't have her own page either. Therefore Trixie was redirected to the Dean Koontz article, as you can see, so now there is no information on the dog or "her" books whatsoever.CindyBotalk 22:48, 23 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks

Thank you! Although, considering you strong-supported me, I kind of assumed that was a given ;-) Cheers! J.delanoygabsadds 01:33, 24 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

DYK updates

Don't pull stuff from the top of list; the new stuff. You got for the older stuff first. Doing otherwise causes problems.--Bedford Pray 02:08, 24 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Alternative Accounts

Hi, i have my suspiscions that User:Mynameisstanley and User:Sdhilio might after all be the same person. The reasons for my suspiscions are as follows:

  • They both generally edit Organized crime related articles, ad usually involved in the same sort of edits.
  • They both have a history of deleting mass content from articles, removing external links and references which no longer function and deleting "In popular culture" sections, which they mistakenly regard as trivia.
  • Both of them are usually active at almost the same time.
  • They together seem to share a common hatred of mobsters.
  • Almost all their recent edits involve deleting mass content, removing external links and categories. Also, they both have proposed articles for deletion on the same date. Just compare the logs of Mynameisstanley and Sdhilio, and you will notice many similarities.
  • The user Sdhilio deleted huge swaths of information from the Thomas Bilotti article claiming that this huge amount of information made Wikipedia look like a fan site. When his Edits were reverted as possible vandalism by clue bot, he angrily left a comment on the talk page asking whether Wikipedia is a fan site for mobsters, to which, i gave a fitting reply. Yesterday,

the other user Mynameisstanley left a message on my talk page entitled "Fan Site". This user was unnecessarily deleting mass portions of information from articles which had books as their references. In the message, he called me a Mafia fan and indirectly accused Wikipedia of being a fan site, by stating that "many peoples posts would be better as fan site when anyone can post whatever they want".

Therefore, I request your assistance in finding out if these two accounts are, in fact, operated by the same user. Regards, Joyson Noel (talk) 11:37, 25 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Quang Nhuong Huynh DYK

Updated DYK query On 25 July, 2008, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Quang Nhuong Huynh, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

--Congratulations! PeterSymonds (talk) 12:37, 25 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks! :) Malinaccier (talk) 22:16, 25 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Open Web Foundation

The General notability guideline states:

"If a topic has received significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject, it is presumed to be notable."

Based on the references provided for this article, can you explain your belief that Open Web Foundation fails to meet this guideline? Do you believe the article will never meet these guidelines? riffic (talk) 00:34, 27 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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RfA Thanks

The Land I Lost DYK

Updated DYK query On 27 July, 2008, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article The Land I Lost, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

--Congratulations! PeterSymonds (talk) 16:55, 27 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

RFA thankspam

Thanks for your support in my RFA, which passed with 140 supporting, 11 opposing, and 4 neutral. I will do my best to live up to the trust that you have given to me. If I can ever assist you with anything, just ask.

Cheers!

J.delanoygabsadds 20:06, 27 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I am curious to why the other guy deleted my artist page. I am a representative of the said artist, I am the PR manager for Lemegeton Records. and I was trying to update my clients, endorsement agreements and uses as well as his home page, but the other guy deleted it. Is their anyway around this?

Need your help

I am curious to why the other guy deleted the artist page of my client. I am a representative of the said artist, I am the PR manager for Lemegeton Records. and I was trying to update my clients, endorsement agreements and uses as well as his home page, but the other guy deleted it. Is their anyway around this? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dorisdiaz (talkcontribs)

I don't see any deleted edits about any artist--all I see is vandalism. Malinaccier (talk) 00:05, 29 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

RFA thank-you

Thank-you for your support of me at my recent RFA, which was successful. I have appreciated everyone's comments and encouragement there. Good Ol’factory (talk) 03:30, 29 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

RfB Thank You spam

Thank you for participating in my RfB! I am very grateful for the confidence of the community shown at my RfB, which passed by a count of 154/7/2 (95.65%). I have read every word of the RfB and taken it all to heart. I truly appreciate everyone's input: supports, opposes, neutrals, and comments. Of course, I plan to conduct my cratship in service of the community. If you have any advice, questions, concerns, or need help, please let me know. Again, Thanks! RlevseTalk 08:48, 29 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you

Thank you for finishing up those resizes. That helps a lot.

By the way, here's a status report...

The awards images are almost done (Penubag and Greyknight are working on them), and the pages themselves still have a couple sections that need to be completed before we can move them to article space. That pesky bot hit a couple more of the lists and removed their coats of arms images. (Which is why we need to move the pages to article space, but we can't until the temporary data is replaced, as some of it is incorrect - and we might as well complete those sections rather than simply replace the temporary data.).

I've been working on the location item, because the specs for that are kind of difficult to explain, and I keep running into new situations (in a body of water vs. on land, equatorial, transprimemeridial, transcontinental, etc.) - so I don't even have complete specs for that yet.

But the pages are shaping up, and are getting closer to usability.

Do you see where this is heading?

Eventually, the "Lists of basic topics" will be the most useful site map of Wikipedia.

The Transhumanist    16:44, 29 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Next tasks

Here are the details of the work on one of the two sections that need to be completed before we can move the country basic topics drafts to the article namespace...

Track down the administrative divisions types for each country

The first task is on the "Administrative divisions of" sections.

In each of these sections, there's an initial hierarchical list of the division types in that country, followed by subheadings for each of the types. Unfortunately, the types listed are those from the template I used to create these pages, and they aren't accurate for many countries.

The defaults that I used were:

For each country, change the links to the names of the administrative divisions for that country, adding more links if there are more than 3 division types. Those that are subdivisions of another type are indented under the parent type. In most cases, you would leave municipalities in place, because that's a generic name for "city". We'll blue-link those later. (Blue-linking is creating a redirect so that a link turns blue - that way, the link remains standardized on all the pages in the set).

Also change the subheadings in the same section to match the initial list, including the "main article" links presented just below each subheading.

To find out what the administrative divisions are for a country so you can add them, try looking on the government of x or politics of x pages for that country, and on the country's main article as well.

Add the administrative divisions to their respective subsections

For each country, find the list of administrative division for each type, and add them under that type's subheading.

For example, copy and paste the provinces listed at Provinces of Angola under the "Provinces of Angola" subheading on that country's list page.

See the countries listed at Lists of basic topics for examples of how this has been done for those. If there's a map showing the administrative divisions, grab it too.

Generally do not add towns and cities to the municipalities section, as there are usually way too many of them (and will unnecessarily bloat the page). Instead, provide links to the various pages (Cities of x, [[[Towns of x]], Villages of x, etc.

Have fun!

Don't worry, I'll be helping (once I'm done with the location item), and will be asking others to chip in as well.

The Transhumanist    16:44, 29 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Question

I'm correct in guessing that this list would have no administrative divisions section, correct? Malinaccier (talk) 20:06, 29 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Correct. But rather than remove the section, indicate "None" (or a sentence stating they have no administrative divisions). The Transhumanist    20:11, 29 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Half of a Yellow Sun

We are protecting it so we can edit it. Why did you create this page? Who are you? We are a graduate class who recently read this book and wanted to create a page. We noticed you already created one, so we wanted to add to it. Just trying to help!! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ourclass123 (talkcontribs)

Ok, thank you! We hope to add some interesting facts regarding our learned knowledge. We hope you enjoy the additions! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ourclass123 (talkcontribs) 23:52, 29 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Interesting book

It occurred to me that you might be interested in a book I recently read and added to the list on my userpage. Cheers! —Travistalk 00:40, 30 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Did you see my mini-review? —Travistalk 14:58, 30 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Update

I pinged everyone associated with Around the World and the Lists of basic topics WikiProject. So far, three responded, including you. No doubt Sharkface will join back in when he gets back from vacation.

I also threw myself into the pages today, and completed the locations for all the A's, V's thru Z's, and all the countries in Africa and the Carribean. My brain is fried. I kept running into overlapping regions. The Transhumanist    03:04, 30 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

DYK

Updated DYK query On 30 July, 2008, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Half of a Yellow Sun, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

--Gatoclass (talk) 08:23, 30 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Update

Finished the locations for Europe.

The Transhumanist    03:40, 31 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]


And the B's, and North America (including all its islands).

The Transhumanist    04:52, 31 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I've done through the H's. The Transhumanist    19:07, 1 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

GA collaboration

User:Malinaccier/Collaborate/Template

Harry Potter

I won't revert your removal of the tag, but I obviously disagree. I'm sure citations exist for the statement, but the statement currently remains uncited. --OnoremDil 02:54, 2 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for not causing a revert war or blowing up over my removal of the tag. I'll look for a source. Malinaccier (talk) 03:09, 2 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
User:Abtract removed the line anyway. :) Malinaccier (talk) 15:30, 3 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Re: GA review

Thanks! Done with everything, also. Juliancolton Tropical Cyclone 12:54, 2 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

RfA thanks

Thank you for participating in my RfA, which did not succeed with 30 in support, 28 in opposition and 6 neutral votes. Thanks again for the support!

thankspam

Thanks to everyone who participated in my RfA, regardless of their !vote. I have withdrawn the nomination as a failure at 19 supports, 45 opposes, and 9 neutral statements.

As has been written and sung, you can't always get what you want, but if you try sometimes, you get what you need — and what I need is to go back to working on our shared project. Not everyone has to be an admin; there is a role for each of us. After reflection, I feel I don't have the temperament to secure community consensus as an admin at any point, and I will not be applying again in the future — and hey, that's all right, 'cause I stay true to the philosophy that adminship is no big deal: I tried, I failed, and now I'll return to doing what I've always done. I have an extremely strong belief in the consensus process, and the consensus was clear. I will be devoting my energies to volunteering at MedCab and working up a complete series of articles on the short stories of Ernest Hemingway, among lord knows what else. Thanks again to everyone who spared the time to weigh in on this one. It was made in better faith than it probably seemed.
Mr. IP Defender of Open Editing 15:01, 4 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for weighing in at my RfA. I do have good intentions, but I can see why people wouldn't take my claims at face value, too. As it is, I'll definitely be looking to serve the project in other ways and dropping the admin idea. Hope to be working with editors like you in the future - Mr. IP Defender of Open Editing 15:01, 4 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Many thanks!

Thank you...

...for participating in my RfA, which closed with 119 in support, 4 neutral and 5 opposes. I'm honestly overwhelmed at the level of support that I've received from the community, and will do my best to maintain the trust placed in me. I 'm also thankful to those who opposed or expressed a neutral position, for providing clear rationales and superb feedback for me to build on. I've set up a space for you to provide any further feedback or thoughts, should you feel inclined to. However you voted, thanks for taking the time out to contribute to the process, it's much appreciated. Kind regards, Gazimoff 21:44, 4 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks

Thanks for the welcome back. No, I didn't see any wildfires, but I did take a lot of pictures, which I hope to upload to the Commons. bibliomaniac15 23:42, 4 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Deleted Page

Just wanted to know why you deleted the The Mercy Dolls wiki. The is a notable Brisbane band, like many of the other notable Brisbane bands with Wikipedia pages. Their film clip one a nationally acclaimed award (Atom Awards), and were also runner-up in another national film clip away (sunscreen music video awards). They've played nationally and well known around Brisbane. Quite a bit of work went into the page, and I'm annoyed to find that its been deleted. The page was in the the scope of WikiProject Australia along with other associated Brisbane & Australian music pages. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 125.254.23.129 (talk) 04:32, 5 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

It was after this AFD: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/The_Mercy_Dolls . The commenters believed it was not notable because of the guideline that determines whether bands are notable. If you disagree, you may start a deletion review discussion. Malinaccier (talk) 17:00, 5 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Question

Hey Malinaccier, I just had a question about a picture I tried to put on the Eragon article under the adaptation section. The picture in question is the theatrical poster for the movie Eragon and is already used in the Eragon (film) article, but when I tried to put it onto the Eragon article it was deleated because it had no fair-use rationale and that is fine, but I just wanted to know why I couldn't also add it to the Eragon (film) article. Thanks, Mlsguy0037 (talk) 18:56, 5 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Wow! Thanks for the quick response! Yes, that cleared up everything for me. Thank you! Mlsguy0037 (talk) 01:55, 6 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Hey Malinaccier, I'm sorry to be a bother, but I was just wondering if you could check these two images i just uploaded to the Mercury Marine article to see if they are ok. Thanks, Mlsguy0037 (talk) 19:36, 6 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Answer

To answer your question; yes, I'd be honored to have you come on board. MBisanz talk 03:03, 6 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Around the World

The locations are done (but need fact checking), and some regions could be added. But that can be done later - I'm burnt out on these.

The 3 things that need to be done before the competition can start are:

  1. The images for the awards - looks like I may need to recruit some more graphics artists
  2. The countries moved to article space need to be completed - see User talk:Mifter#What's next?
  3. The rest of the pages in the set - need their regions and government branches sections completed (there's incorrect temporary data in those sections on many of the pages)

We could sure use your help on the administrative divisions sections.

For speed on this task, split it up:

  1. Do the little hierarchical list of administrative districts first (for all of the countries).
  2. Then fix the subheadings for the administrative divisions section for all the countries.
  3. Then add the maps and lists of administrative districts (easier to do these two in the same step).

For even more speed, install Firefox and Linky. Then use linky to load country lists into tabs. You cycle through them using Ctrl-W (which deletes the current tab and instantly views the next one), and you jump between them using Ctrl-Tab and Shift-Ctrl-Tab.

I look forward to your reply.

The Transhumanist    00:03, 8 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Request

Hello! Can i request the User page User:RRaunak be undeleted so that i can actually find more evidence in the RCFU case against him. The link is this: Wikipedia:Requests_for_checkuser/Case/RRaunak. Thanks! --ɔɹǝɐɯʎ!Talk 00:10, 8 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

RFA

Malinaccier, first, let me say that you are certainly welcome to express your opinion regarding my RfA, however, I am a little confused. I made a simple typo (and changed it) before you posted opposition based on that. I would never seek WP:ANI to reduce my own stress, but to deal with specific disruptive issues (stressful or otherwise) required admin intervention. — BQZip01 — talk 16:15, 8 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Re: chess

Ha, ha, haaaa!!!! BTW, I'm watching the page, so I'll see if you (or anyone) moves... J.delanoygabsadds 23:38, 10 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah. Do you know where one is, off hand? J.delanoygabsadds 23:51, 10 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
OK, can you set up a game and let me know where you are? J.delanoygabsadds 23:55, 10 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you!

Thank you for trusting me with the rollback function! I will do my best to put it to good use... At the moment, I don't have any questions, but I will let you know if I do. I will also talk with my adopter...

Take care, Pax85 (talk) 14:43, 12 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thankyou

Just a little note to say thankyou for participating in my successful RFA candidacy, which passed with 96 supports, 0 opposes, and 1 neutral. I am pleasantly taken aback by the amount of support for me to contribute in an administrative role and look forward to demonstrating that such faith is well placed. Regards, WilliamH (talk) 14:05, 13 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Learning to use a mop

Hey Malinaccier,

My previous two RfA attempts have been unsuccessful (Number one and number two) and I've been considering taking up some admin coaching to help become a better administrator when I do eventually become one, and to help address concerns raised at those RfAs. I've seen your method of coaching (here) and I was curious as to whether you had space for another candidate? No worries if you don't, just thought it was worth a shot :) Many thanks and happy editing —CyclonenimT@lk? 20:41, 15 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Marvellous, I'd love to be put on the waiting list, I'm sure I can wait until you've got time—after all, Rome wasn't built in a day, was it? :) Would you like me to get in touch with you at a certain point in the future or would you like to inform me when you're ready? Kind regards —CyclonenimT@lk? 22:03, 15 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Great. I look forward to hearing from you! —CyclonenimT@lk? 19:44, 17 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Happy Birthday!

Just a happy Birthday message to you, Malinaccier, from the Wikipedia Birthday Committee! Have a great day!

LaPianista! «talk» 18:12, 16 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks a lot! Malinaccier (talk) 18:05, 17 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Happy Birthday from me too | Dendodge .. TalkContribs 18:14, 17 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you also! :) Malinaccier (talk) 18:17, 17 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I think I'll jump on the bandwagon, happy birthday (for yesterday!) —CyclonenimT@lk? 19:44, 17 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

My RfA

Malinaccier, thank you for your contribution to the discussion at my recent RfA. If ever you have any concerns about my actions, adminly or otherwise, don't hesitate to let me know. Best wishes, Paul Erik (talk)(contribs) 23:07, 16 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Admin coach statues

Well; thanks for the note. Maybe I'll try for a month or two. Thanks; H2H (talk) 05:35, 18 August 2008 (UTC).[reply]

Hi there,

I noticed that you are also trying to work to get Harry Potter to FAC standard. Well, I'm working on the references to add publishers and fixing some things from an Auto PR review. Therefore, I would just like to let you know that I am working on the article.

Thanks, The Helpful One (Review) 16:10, 18 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

RfA thank you

Malinaccier, I wish to say thanks for your support in my successful request for adminship, which ended with 82 supports, 3 opposes, and 1 neutral. I will do my best to live up to your expectations. I would especially like to thank Rlevse for nominating me and Wizardman for co-nominating me.
                                                  JGHowes talk - 19 August 2008

GA collaberation

I would like to collaborate on Big Stick Ideology (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) to bring it up to good article status! To get the article to good article status, I believe that "I've done a decent amount of work on it, but it still lacks some important bits of information, and certainly could use a good copy edit." Thanks, Leonard(Bloom) 17:37, 20 August 2008 (UTC) [reply]

That sounds good, and I hope this article can go somewhere; I've put quite some time into research and notes. Thanks for helping out! I can't express my gratitude. Leonard(Bloom) 20:44, 20 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Mhmm. I need to get to the library, and find something on Panama Canal and its formation before I feel comfortable starting that section. Right now though, I'm doing research on Panama's connection to the issue. Leonard(Bloom) 21:32, 20 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
First off, I wanted to give you an extremely large thank you for what you've already done for the article; I was working on the Panama Canal section, so I didn't really see it (until now). Second: I've got a draft for the Panama Canal section almost done, and I've also got a couple books in mind for more in-depth research. Right now, I've used Google and a couple US History anthologies to help me, but I've got a couple of more specialized books waiting for me to pick them up. I'm actually leaving for a friends for the night now, so their might not be much from me until tomorrow. Again, thanks for the help, I appreciate it very much. Bye! Leonard(Bloom) 22:45, 20 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
That's wonderful news, and I'll do that right away. Thanks for your help; it means a lot. Leonard(Bloom) 00:40, 28 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Anytime. It seems I've uncovered a valuable resource. :P Leonard(Bloom) 00:44, 28 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
After reviewing the article against the GA Criteria, it is now nominated for GA Review. Woo! Leonard(Bloom) 01:20, 28 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

User:Realist2 has already agreeded to review it tomorrow! Leonard(Bloom) 01:32, 28 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The feeling is mutual. Leonard(Bloom) 17:23, 29 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

There is only one section left (including its subsections) that needs to be completed before the pages are ready for Around the World:

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There are a few more things that need to be completed before the lists can be moved into the main namespace:

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Moving these lists into the main namespace could have a huge impact on their development, because then each list will fall under the scope of the WikiProjects of the respective countries. That's a lot of WikiProjects that may become involved with refining and maintaining these lists.

The move will be accompanied with the placing of new sections on each of the WikiProject pages, their talk pages, placing banners on the talk pages of each list, and including links to these lists in hatnotes on the relevant articles and portals, and placing section links in the see also sections of relevant articles (Geography of x, Military of x, etc.). Lots of AWB work.

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Perhaps I should apologize to you for going for RFA without consulting you or asking you for a nomination. Now that I think about it I realize that it was rather inconsiderate of me to do so. So, sorry. —  scetoaux (T|C) 01:53, 26 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

With coaching, like a lot of things, I think there comes a point when you've done pretty much all you should. And I think you have done a pretty good job (it's not your fault I'm not passing :) ). I still believe that for now it's best for me to freelance, as you put it, and learn what I can on my own and improve. I certainly wouldn't mind if you were to do that mini editor review once in a while, i.e. look through my contribs and see how I'm doing. —  scetoaux (T|C) 01:08, 27 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

User:Agricolae

Hi Malniccier, i have been having a problem with this user lately (User:Agricolae), and he has broken the 3RR in the Umar ibn Hafsun article. This guy actually has a grudge against me and has been reverting my edit just for spite, with the sole intent to aggravate me. Just check the history page. Anyway, since he has broken the 3 revert rule within a span of 24 hours, he is liable to be blocked for over the same period. Am i right? Please do the needful. Thanks. Joyson Noel (talk) 17:15, 28 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

It is curious to see how one's actions can be construed by others. I first tried to interact with this poster on the discussion page to avoid a revert war that seemed to be brewing, and that proved rather unproductive (trainwreck seems the accurate characterization - see Talk:Umar ibn Hafsun). I see little reason to subject myself to more abuse with so little to gain. Anyhow, I see that I lost count of my reverts. While as you have noted, each of mine was in response to one done by the other in a similar time frame, I accept that 'he did it first' does not justify my violation of the policy, and I will voluntarily refrain from editing the article in question for the prescribed period from my last post. Likewise, I will pay more attention in the future. Agricolae (talk) 00:47, 29 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
If he is as curious as he pretends to be, then let him read his own messages in the article's talk page. I suggest that you do, as well (i.e, if you have the time). What he is falsely disguising as "abuse" were nothing more than well justified accusations that i made towards him, and only in my last message. Of course, being the self-righteous deceptive individual that he is, he will wholeheardedly deny this. Let him! Just read the talk page and you will see who was responsible for the discussion going haywire, as well as a lot of other things. Checking the history page would also reveal a lot, regarding this person's obvious grudge against me, which was due to the fact that he was unable to give me a straightforward reply on the talk page. Instead, he chose to cancel the discussion and do his own thing.
I too lost count of my reverts. I had incorrectly assumed that i had made 3 reverts within a span of 24 hours. The mistake was made by me because i was a bit hasty in checking the history page. It was only after i sent the message, that i actually realized my mistake. I had no intention of violating 3RR. If i did, then why would i message you? Agricolae, on the other hand, was spitefully reverting my edits with the sole intention of aggravating me. It was just a small piece of info. For example, "With Bobastro's fall, ibn Hafsun's remains were exhumed and he was posthumously crucified outside Cordoba's Mezquita de Córdoba."
To which i added, "which was the second largest mosque in the Muslim world at that time." He just keeps reverting it, at times stating that it is irrevelant to the individual, to which i agree. However, this fact about the mosque must be mentioned in the article, especially since it has been a Roman Catholic Cathedral since 1236. Its not like i copy-pasted an entire para. He just doesn't give a damn and is reverting my edit solely because it was done by me.
Anyway, i will also refrain from editing the article for the prescribed period from my last post. Sorry for the long rant and thank you for your time. Joyson Noel (talk) 05:26, 29 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Malinaccier, I don't suppose you could ban us both from the Talk page too, while you're at it, could you? Agricolae (talk) 07:30, 29 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I know you really don't need this on your plate, but your messages to both myself and the other were quite clear: "Further reverts involving the statement (unless agreed upon) will result in a block for both yourself and Agricolae", and "Instead I want each of you to discuss the edit on the article's talk page, and perhaps seek a third opinion. Further reverts pertaining to the statement will result in a block." In response to your recommendation that the issue be discussed on Talk:Umar ibn Hafsun, entries were made which the contributor admitted were solely intended to "let people know what i think of them" (i.e. what he thinks of me). These entries used phrases such as "i did not accuse you of anything that you did not deserve a hundred times over. I accused you of being a liar, distorting my actual points, lacking proper understanding . . . , etc, which were well justified. Considering the great number of things that i would have called you, had we met face to face, i really think that you got away with it", and "This obviously hurt your ego and out of aggravation, you decided to cancel the discussion", and "Your still egotistical to a fault", and "coupled with your arrogance and cocky attitude", and "(Ending message with the proverbial finger)". Correct me if I am wrong, but I do not think this is what you had in mind when you directed us to try discussing the issue. It all seems rather lacking in civility, and it certainly dampened my enthusiasm for again trying to reach consensus there. Now, in spite of the stated consequences of not reaching consensus first, the disputed phrasing of the article has been unilaterally reverted by the other. It is so ridiculous to need to invoke disciplinary administrator action or even mediation on something so trivial, but that is what it has come to. Agricolae (talk) 18:46, 30 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I think i made it clear that i didn't write the message to discuss about the sentence, rather to discuss our problem with each other. I felt the need to discuss it especially because you have a big grudge against me. I admit that i must have been harsh at that time, but i'm sorry to say that there was no nice way of saying that. Also, i did not revert the edit, but merely added back the sentence "which was the second largest mosque in the Islamic world at the time" to the sentence which stated "which was then a mosque".
The message after that was solely about the discussion about the sentence. Although i did advise you to lay off the sarcasm. You did not bother to reply back as to why the sentence should not be placed. After 2 days in waiting for your response, i decided to add back the sentence, especially since it confirmed that the sole reason as to your reversion of my edit was not due to any irrelevancy, but rather due to the fact that it was done by me. It also strengthened my conviction that you were not in the least interested in reaching a consensus with me. You claim that my so-called "abuse" dampened your enthusiasm for reaching a consensus, well, was writing a proper response as to why it must not be included too much for you.
Moreover, i suggest that Malniccier read the message himself. You have taken great consideration in quoting sentences which would make it look like i was abusing you, while i was simply laying well justified accusations towards you. I have a feeling that you must be having a misunderstanding about the proverbial finger. The proverbial finger is not the middle finger as you might suppose it to be. On the other hand, it refers to the second finger which is usually delivered as a warning sign. Joyson Noel (talk) 04:46, 31 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Just to let you know...

...my userpage is now a bright shade of yellow. I think it legible now, do you agree? ;) I'm feeling rather wiki-confident now so I've just adopted two newbies. I've been wanting to do so for a long time now, let's hope I don't regret it! Best, --Cameron* 13:19, 31 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

OMG, people read my hidden sections! I was going to add "wikipedians I admire" to the section. I'm not sure whether to unhide it, it could come accross as "sucking up". I can't believe so many people are leaving... :( --Cameron* 20:38, 3 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
What are your views on adding image of yourself to your usepage? Surely it makes (admins in particular) seem more friendly and approachable (providing they have friendly faces...!). --Cameron* 20:44, 3 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

RfA thanks

Thank you for voting in my RfA, which did not succeed with 41 support, 21 oppose, and 1 neutral. I appreciate both the supports and the opposes. Thanks again and cheers! TNX-Man 18:53, 2 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

My RfA

Thank you for your support in my recent RfA, which was successful with 58 support, 4 oppose and 1 neutral. Kind regards. --Malcolmxl5 (talk) 21:33, 2 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

WP:FORUM discussion

Hello, Malinaccier. Since you're an administrator, I would like to ask for your advice on the recent actions I made to this article talk page. I recently reverted numerous edits by three users who were, as I see it, violating the WP:FORUM policy. I reverted their edits and placed a notice on the talk pages of the involved users and the article talk page as you can see from the diff above. Ijanderson977 disagrees with my decision to revert arguing that he has placed a warning on the article talk page, which was addressed to the two other parties involved. He has reverted my edit but chose to strike his comments this time. I have reverted his edit again arguing that he can place the warning on the usertalk pages of the individual users involved, with which he disagreed and again reverted to the previous revision. I would like to ask you whether I did the right thing reverting in the first place or not. If so, I would like you to explain the WP:FORUM policy to Ijanderson977 and undo his edit. Otherwise, please explain what I'm doing wrong. Thank you in advance. AVandtalkcontribs 22:57, 3 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]