User talk:DonCalo

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Great work

I've been looking and it seems your contributions to Wikipedia have been very positive, and lots of good images too. Keep it up! GDonato (talk) 14:28, 9 July 2007 (UTC)

Invitation to Join WikiProject Crime

Would you like to upgrade from an honorary member to a full member of the Wikipedia:WikiProject Criminal Biography? Your work on the Mafia was greatly appreciated I think you would be a great asset to our project. As you said your an expert. Jmm6f488 07:43, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

Caruana Cuntrera articles and Halvorssen Hellum

The reference to their extradition from Venezuela is in the mouth of Venezuelan Senator Cristobal Fernandez Dalo in an article in July 1994 British GQ that i can email to you. I only have a PDF. Fernandez Dalo was the head of the commission on mafia and narcotics and money laundering in the Venezuelan Senate. He states Halvorssen as responsible for the investigation and extradition of them.70.23.3.191

Slaughter revisited

I appreciated the rationality with which you approached our previous discussion and particularly the appropriate and reasoned arguments you provided. Can you please weigh in on the use of 'slaughter' on Talk:The_Holocaust#NPOV_revisited?

The articles you contribute to have one huge failing

you barely cite any sources. you clearly are fascinated by the mafia. i suggest less adjectives, less POV and more actual research.70.18.194.64 05:51, 24 July 2007 (UTC)

Dear whoever you are, your clearly new to Wikipedia. I think your remarks are a bit out of line. For instance your statement that the article on Calogero Vizzini lacks sources is simply not true. If you would bother to look at the bottom of the page you will find 12 sources and in the 27 references you will find more. That is considerably more than most articles on Wikipedia. A lot of the fact tags you added are in fact properly referenced. I suggest you read the references before you put a fact tag to it.

For your information, look at the history tag at the top of the page and you will find who initiated an article and who contributed to it. In the case of the Luciano Leggio article, I did not start it and I have tried to give more sources and references.

The first section of an article is an introduction to the topic and a short summary of what is in the rest of the article. You will find the sources and references there.

Furthermore, you might lower your aggressive tone a bit. That is ussually not the way people communicate with each other. Wikipedia is a collective effort among civil people, not a battleground for insults.

Your claim that there are too much adjectives and too much WP:POV in my contributions is also not true. If anything I try to avoid that and have deleted it as much as possible. I removed the tags you added where I think they are unfounded. I hope you will contribute more possitively in the future. - Mafia Expert 12:35, 24 July 2007 (UTC)

Your DYK nomination

I just wanted to make you aware of the fact that I have commented on your DYK nomination Girolamo Li Causi. The entry is unlikely to be used until the issue has been addressed. Please note that the top of the T:TDYK page asks nominators to: "Please check back for comments on your nomination. Responding to reasonable objections will help ensure that your article is listed."--Carabinieri 04:12, 13 September 2007 (UTC)

DYK: Gerlando Alberti

On 5 October, 2007, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Gerlando Alberti, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

--PFHLai 03:26, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

DYK

On 25 October, 2007, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Vito Ciancimino, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

--Carabinieri 15:56, 25 October 2007 (UTC)

DYK

On 26 October, 2007, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Baldassare Di Maggio, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

--Carabinieri 13:35, 26 October 2007 (UTC)

Duplicate images uploaded

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DYK - Giuseppe Guttadauro

On 31 October, 2007, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Giuseppe Guttadauro, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

—Wknight94 (talk) 23:35, 31 October 2007 (UTC)

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Cosa Nostra

hi there,

i was just wondering why my edits were changed regarding the translation of Cosa Nostra? i added the phrase 'this thing of ours' to the page but it was removed. I am not questioning the accuracy of your change, however i was under the impression that 'this thing of ours' was a legitimate translation as it is used in various mafia based films and books, (namely The Sopranos and even a film called 'This Thing Of Ours'). Your explanation of your emission of my editing would be kindly appreciated

Danny —Preceding unsigned comment added by D4tis (talk • contribs) 16:02, 15 November 2007 (UTC)

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You are very welcome...

... and thank you for your high-quality and extensive work about cosa nostra and those who have fought this social cancer. --Analytikone 22:39, 2 December 2007 (UTC)

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You have been employing increasingly rude personal attacks against me due to an image disagreement. Calling me a part of the "Image Gestapo" was way out of line. I request an apology. – Quadell ^{(talk) (random)} 15:14, 18 December 2007 (UTC)

DYK

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--EncycloPetey (talk) 14:45, 20 December 2007 (UTC)

Luciano Violante

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DYK

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--Royalbroil 16:47, 4 January 2008 (UTC)

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Giuseppe Falsone

Why do you keep reverting the introduction to the incorrect form? Please see Wikipedia:Manual of Style (dates and numbers)#Dates of birth and death. MisfitToys (talk) 22:58, 5 January 2008 (UTC)

Replying to your qestion on my talk page: see also Wikipedia:Manual of Style (biographies)#Opening paragraph. I've never seen the intro for an established article formatted the way the Falsone article is; when the place of birth is included, it's always noted as (born [date] in [place]), though I'll add that whenever articles are considered for FA status, there's seems to be an emphasis on removing the place of birth from the intro. MisfitToys (talk) 19:40, 7 January 2008 (UTC)

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Calliopejen1 stamp purge of 2008

i was considering whether i should respond to each image just as you did, but couldn't decide whether it would dilute the impact of my statement. now that you've done it, before i plow ahead and join you, i was wondering if you know of a way to combine all of the stamp image nominations into one group? that way one vote could speak for the entire lot. --emerson7 01:50, 17 January 2008 (UTC)

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Totò Riina

In the article of BBC website there is written that Marino del Tronto where Riina was held in small proson-islands in Italy that is falsi. Marino del Tronto is in italian mainland and not in the north but in the central section of Italy. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Lucifero4 (talk • contribs) 12:54, 20 January 2008 (UTC)

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Image: 'Ndrangheta Code

If you think it may be of benefit, here is a higher resolution image,
from the same source [Family Crisis among the "Men of Honor"]:
Ndrangheta_code 1144x544 png image
That location is simply the only way I can think of to make the image available. I will delete it from that location within 2 weeks.
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Scampia feud copyright violations

Hi. Unfortunately I've had to revert a lot of well-referenced material in the Scampia feud article because some of it was copied directly from other sources. I was reluctant because you'd obviously put a lot of effort into finding the references, but you can't just copy stuff verbatim into Wikipedia like that. So feel free to rewrite the information in your own words - it's all there in the history still. However, I've proposed that the feud article be merged into the History section of the main Scampìa article, where it would benefit from the wider social and economic context of that article. Or at least the context that will come from that article when it's been expanded from its current fairly stubby state!
Two other minor things - it's helpful if you can tag the Talk pages of articles you work on with relevant WikiProjects, as I've done on eg Talk:Scampia feud. That way you bring the article to the attention of relevant specialists, who can work on expanding it. And just as a style thing, WP:SEEALSO discourages filling "See also" sections with links to articles already mentioned in the text of the article, it's more for related topics that don't fit naturally into the main text. Cheers FlagSteward (talk) 21:17, 30 March 2008 (UTC)

I answered here - Mafia Expert (talk) 23:59, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

Pasquale Condello

On 3 April, 2008, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Pasquale Condello, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

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RE your message about the redirect

You are slightly missing the point of a redirect - incorrect spelling in a redirect is absolutely permissable as it exists to pick up instances where a reader is trying to find an article but is spelling it incorrectly. e.g. Shakespear redirects to the correctly spelled Shakespeare and so on. This does not mean that Wikipedia is endorsing the incorrect spelling but is merely an acknowledgment that people mistype and make mistakes. Kind regards, nancy ^(talk) 10:40, 5 April 2008 (UTC)

'ndrinas

That page is a redirect. It's very common to have redirects from alternate or even wrong spellings, to make navigation easier. It seems like a likely mistake for someone to make when looking for the subject, which is why multiple people have turned down your request to delete a redirect. Redirects are very cheap. Grandmasterka 17:46, 5 April 2008 (UTC)

Re: 'ndrine

A person not familiar with pluralisation of Italian words might naturally search for "'ndrinas". It is a convenience to them to have an entry for that word that redirects to "'ndrine". Like I said in the edit summary, it might be *wrong* but it's not *unlikely*. ... discospinster _talk 19:46, 5 April 2008 (UTC)

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Mafia-SPECTRE alliance

What do you think? We'd kick ass together and the world would be shivering its its boots ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ ^$1,000,000? 20:00, 10 April 2008 (UTC)

Your rollback use

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The Mafia Artcile

Your truly a genius! Have you ever thought that a small bio with only a few facts will encourage the reader to go the larger article or maybe he might get the information what he needs just from the smaller bio. The amount of pathetic actions and bullshit that occur on this site by some of the administrators is exactly one reason why the organized crime/mafia section of the site has so many errors, false information and in some cases lack of important information regarding the article subject.

After you decidd that all the accurate information I added to the page was of no value and with that I point to my statement above which proves you wrong, I thought I might fix the other mistakes that you or some other Mafia Expert created in the Mafia Terminology" section, but I was blocked. What ever genius created that mixed up the terms relating to the hierarchies of the Sicilian Cosa Nostra (capo di tutti capi, consigliere), Calabrian Ndrnageta (capo-crimine, capo-bastone) and Sacra Corona Unita (sgarrista, picciotto and giovane d'onore), they even threw in a North American mafia term (caporegime).

For your information Italian mafia terms like capo-crimine are not traditional terms. That term or title is only used by the Calabrese mafia (the Ndrnagheta) and does not mean crime boss and capo-bastone does not mean club head and is not the underboss or seomnd in comand to the capo-crimine, he's the boss of the locale or crime family within the Ndrangheta. The crimine is the Ndrangheta council that is chosen every year to run various regions such as Reggio Calabria, Catanzaro, Cosenza, Crotone and Vibo Valentia.

Under American Cosa Nostra"' the same genius wrote that the American mafia known as La Cosa Nostra is an offshoot of the Sicilian mafia that emerged on the East Coast of the United States during the late 19th century. Are you kidding me or what? First of all the first Italian mafia groups were formed in the South, New Orleans to be exact and in the mid 1900s, around the mid 1860s. The Neapolitans were set up and organized around the same time as the Sicilians and there were also Calabrian mafia groups that emerged within the United States by the late 1800s. After the Cosa Nostra-Camora War that ended around 1919 (not Mafia-Camorra War, they were both mafia groups for the genius who coined that title) all the Italian mafia groups began to align themselves, but because the majority of American mafiosi and groups were Sicilian they went with the Sicilian structure, not because only the Sicilian mafia groups survived. In fact, the Genovese crime family was led by a majority of Calabrian and Neapolitan bosses and capos from 1932 up until the time Frank Costello and his regime were removed by Vito Genovese in 1957 and the Genovese himself was Neapolitan, not Sicilian.

• That is why the organization was called La Cosa Nostra, "This Thing of Ours", because of the mix of Italian crime groups as a whole, but dominated by a majarity of Sicilian bosses and Sicilian mafiosi. But even with that there is no proof that the Sicilian mafia in Sicily was called Cosa Nostra before the 1930s. In fact here is more proof to reinforce the notion that they took the name from the American mafia after WWII and the end of the fascist regime, before that the organization was called "The Honored Society like in Calabria. The Neapolitan Camorra is the oldest Italian mafia group and then the Calabrian Ndrangheta, only those two organization in Italy had their names for centuries, not the Sicilian mafia as I stated.

You guys do't know your as from a whole in the ground. You guys just spew the same regurgitated shit from books and articles that has been re-written over and over again for decades, do some real research and you'll see that basically 3/4 of the earliest American mafia history can be re-written and added to, while the rest of the information from the 1930s-60s is questionable at best, other than the basic stuff such as the names of the main players and what crime families and factions they belonged to and were affiliated with.

BTW, Mr. "Mafia Expert", once again Luciano Leggio is the former boss of the Corlonesi cla, not Luciano Liggio, that was an alias he used while he was on the run and a mistake made by an Italian newspaper. I see yopu allowed the correction I made to Michele Navarra, he was boss of the Corleonesi from around 1943, not the 1930s like the article stated earlier, Calogero Lo Blue was the boss before him. The Lo Blue clan is still prominent in Corleone, members of the family were the ones arrested for hiding Bernardo Provenzano and helping him. Michele "The Pope" Greco, cousin to Salvatore "Little Bird" Greco was the boss of the mafia clan of Croceverde, but he was the boss of the Ciaculli cosca, you people still don't understand the difference between clans and cosche do you? Benedetto "Nitto" Santapaola is no longer the most important boss in Catania, he and his clan started losing power by the late 1990s and within a few years of the new millennium the Ercolano-Mangion clan starting usuroping the power of the Santapola-Ferrera-Rome clan, the core clan of the Catania cosca tyhat once ruled undisputed. In fact it use to be the Santapaola-Ercolnao-Ferrera-Romeo clan, all of them are related, but Nitto Santapaola pout a hit out on Pippo Ercolano around 2004. Pippo is the father of Aldo Ercolano, Nitto's cousin and former right-hand-man who went to prison with him, but now they do not get along and hate each other because the new alliance the Ercolano clan has created with the Mangion clan through marriage has shifted power and influence in catania to them as they receive more support from other Catania clans not aligned with the Santapaolas. That is why Nitto wanted to hit his own cousin, because the Ercolano clan is continuously gaining power and influence, they have been since the early millennium, where have you been? In fact, the Ercolano-Mangion clan may have been the ones supporting the La Rocca clan when in 2004 they wanted to hit Umberto Di Fazio the "reggente" (acting boss) of the Canatia cosca for Nitto Santapaola since 1995. Di Fazio became a pentito immediately after being captured near the province of Enna because he new the majority support within the Catania mafia for Nitto and his clan was coming to an end and he was finished himself.

Go back to sleep gentlemen or do the Wikipedia readers a favor and do some research and maybe then you guys can fix all your mistakes because I'm done trying to fix all the mistakes I find. I have already gotten rid of my Buffalo crime family userpage. The organized crime/mafia section is a joke, but keep up the good work, Mr. Mafia Expert. If you ever become a college professor and start teach a course on the mafia let me know, I would love to check out the class!

Did I say keep up the good work, I meant keep up the bad work. When it Homes to the mafia I have forgotten the amount that you know. You better start doing some real research, that includes doesn't include just reading books, it includes early and current newspaper articles or archives, birth, immigration and death records and law enforcement records.

Maybe you should get a hold of author Phil Carlo (The Iceman) and ask him to assist you on correcting and adding information to the organized crime/mafia section of Wikipedia. His credibility is about the same as most of the organized crime/mafia section mediators on Wikipedia.

Little Joe Shots

I don't know exactly what you’re trying to say here or who you are addressing. Your mind is as distorted as your spelling. - Mafia Expert (talk) 15:43, 22 April 2008 (UTC)

hey man

Pasquale Condello has relatives in Australia my grandmother was his sister when she herd the news of the arrest she broke down so i think you need to get you facts right —Preceding unsigned comment added by 58.104.91.91 (talk) 03:26, 26 April 2008 (UTC)

Birthplace

Ciao! A little not of style... according to WP:Manual of Style (don't know where exactly in that huge page), the birthplace can be put in-line iwtihn the article, while the birtdate should have frst "born June 5 1930" etc. I w rote you this as I was you reverted my edit in this type at Corrado Carnevale. For the rest, compliment for your wonderful job here! Miezzega!! --Attilios (talk) 10:18, 29 April 2008 (UTC)

Ciao again! I must not agree with you. I've checked the MOS, and found the page where it's precisely stated that places of birth must be in the following text, not along dates of b/d: see Manual of Style#dates and numbers. Ciao and good work! --Attilios (talk) 23:28, 29 April 2008 (UTC)

Again, I reverted your de-edits at Giovanni Falcone. Be sure: far from me to start an edit war with such a good editor like you. If I did, it's for I'm sure of the style asked at that page which you maybe visited. Ciao and keep good working as usual. --Attilios (talk) 13:23, 3 May 2008 (UTC)

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A barnstar

		The Original Barnstar
		Absurd that a contributing, hard working user like have yet recived it. A user like you desorves at least 7 barnstars. One men giving you 7 would look silly, so i give you one ib hope others get the clue. It's important editors know their work is being appreciated. An expert of a topic in the highest level. Wikipedia needs more people like it. Log in, log out (talk) 18:17, 1 July 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for niceness

If you didn't notice it, I'm not English mothertongue, and I'm just here trying to do my best (in fact I usually ask help to friends after creating a new article to check my language). Also, recently I've just time to sneak some minor corrections as I'm working. If you've more time than me, you can help my "embarassing" article at your wish. You can also write it from scratch, since you're so better than me in English and in finding references. Thanks and good work. --Attilios (talk) 14:11, 6 July 2008 (UTC)

Gigante lived in two homes, with two families

Gigante lived in two homes, with two families - with his wife and their five children in New Jersey, and with his mistress and their three children in a town house on the exclusive Upper East Side: http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2003/mar/27/ukcrime.health?commentpage=1 Gigante, 74, has been boss of the Genovese organised crime family of New York since the mid-1980s. It was an extraordinary reign, characterised by duplicity: he lived in two homes, with two families - with his wife and their five children in New Jersey, and with his mistress and their three children in a town house on the exclusive Upper East Side.

PS I Used to live on the upper east side and pass by his townhouse all the time. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mynameisstanley (talk • contribs) 17:14, 1 August 2008 (UTC)

Apparently you did not pay attention to his other whereabouts: Gigante lived at home with his mother Yolanda Gigante on La Guardia Place in Greenwich Village. See:Strolls in Robe Notwithstanding, Mob Figure Must Stand Trial, The New York Times, August 29, 1996 - Mafia Expert (talk) 18:21, 1 August 2008 (UTC)

Captions

Ciao! Just again a (I know I'm boring, pardon me) style note... captions in picturs must not be in boldface. Keep good work and thanks. --Attilios (talk) 08:08, 2 August 2008 (UTC)

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		For your priceless work about Italian mafia articles. --Attilios (talk) 14:50, 2 August 2008 (UTC)

Greenwich Village

Please continue the discussion here [1] and not in the article until it is resolved. Thank you....Modernist (talk) 02:19, 3 August 2008 (UTC)

Stop vandalising all my posts

Please stop undoing all my contributions. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mynameisstanley (talk • contribs) 17:47, 3 August 2008 (UTC)

I answered here and on the ANI page here. - Mafia Expert (talk) 18:04, 3 August 2008 (UTC)

Apologies!

I tried to notify you about that ANI thread but accidentally posted on the other user's talk page! Sorry! Exxolon (talk) 18:25, 3 August 2008 (UTC)

Next? Admins (and any other users who happen to wander by) will look at the report, evaluate it's merit and post opinions and suggestions accordingly. If an admin or admins feels that any admin action is needed on either you or the reporter then they'll do that - but they won't act without checking all the facts first. Dispute resolution may be suggested. Exxolon (talk) 18:34, 3 August 2008 (UTC)

Compare d'anello

Hi, I am Italian but I didn't know the exact meaning of this expression (used locally in Southern Italy, rather than nationally), besides the fact that it is related to the wedding ceremony. Anyway, this is what I found on demauroparavia.it , the online version of an authoritative Italian dictionary at http://www.demauroparavia.it/24883 (my translation): "the best man charged with handing the wedding rings to the bride and groom". If your source uses "compare d'anello" in this generic sense, then I think that it could be translated just as "best man", maybe between brackets besides the Italian expression to allow for particular features of the Italian tradition (the Oxford Italian-English dictionary translates "compare d'anello" just as "best man" too); by the way, if http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Best_man#Best_Man is right, dealing with wedding rings is part of the best man's task in British and American weddings too.

However, your source might refer to some local tradition in particular: I found these two apparently reliable texts, about some Calabrian traditions (from Bovalino and Sambiase in particular) http://www.bibliotelematica.org/Leone%20-RitoTradizioneMemoria.pdf and http://www.sambiase.com/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=133 according to which the "compare d'anello" has a role different from that of the best man: according to the former site, he is a trusted friend of the groom's who buys a ring for the bride (a ring distinct from the wedding rings, which are bought by the husband); this tradition had allegedly spread from Naples and Eastern Sicily to Bovalino and nearby towns.

The following forum thread might also be of interest to you: http://dasposeperspose.forumup.it/about7406-0-asc-0-dasposeperspose.html : it seems to confirm the difference between "compare d'anello" and "testimone" (best man) and that the "compare d'anello" is a Calabrian tradition in particular. Besides, there is a text quoted by the user maryv9 about this tradition, but the source isn't given, and I don't know how much it is reliable.

I hope that my little searches have been of use to you; however, if something isn't clear in the Italian texts I have referred to don't hesitate to contact me again. Good bye, --Analytikone (talk) 10:51, 5 August 2008 (UTC)

You are very welcome, and thank you for giving me the opportunity to learn something new. I think that your translation is very good, since in some way it allows for both the narrow and broad meaning of "compare d'anello".

By the way, I spent one hour for my searches at most: google and ctrl+f work wonders! --Analytikone (talk) 14:02, 5 August 2008 (UTC)

August 2008

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I think the block is not fair. I am trying to prevent a disruptive editor, User talk:Mynameisstanley, and his double User talk:Sdhilio‎ (see: here) from creating more havoc. Before you block you might look into the case somewhat better. I admit that the case of John Gotti is rather silly, but there is a history behind it, which you obviously did not care to look into. Blocking the John Gotti page I can understand, but blocking me I honestly do not think is fair. As if the only thing I do is to involve in edit wars. Just view my log and you will see that this is not the case. You know what, I have had it with this Stanley or Sdhilio or whatever else identities he has, he is your problem now - I did my part. Please undo the block, so I can return editing and writing articles I am really interested in and leave the cleaning up to others - I promise I will never ever engage in trying to identify disruptive editors anymore. I will just stick to what I have been doing over the past two years, positively contributing to WP by writing articles, instead of disrupting them - the hobby of Mynameisstanley.

Decline reason:

Unfortunately, WP:3RR is a very specific policy that doesn't leave much room for interpretation. Editors who revert multiple times on the same article, for anything other than blatant vandalism, are blocked. I note that your block is for four reverts, including this edit, this edit, this edit, and this edit. I note that you were discussing issues on the talk page as well, which is good as far as it goes - but you cannot continue to revert the article while that discussion is underway. I note also that the block was for a mere 12 hours, which is short for a 3RR block (typical first offenses warrant 24-31 hours), so I would recommend taking a deep breath and being more careful in the future. Best, UltraExactZZ ^Claims ~ Evidence 14:49, 6 August 2008 (UTC)

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I am sorry, but I don´t agree. I admit my error, but I have shown to be able to resolve issues by consensus, just review Talk:Greenwich Village. All rules are open to interpretation, if you are willing to look into the specifics of the case. I will not even look at John Gotti anymore or follow the disruptive editor, so the odd change that I will make the mistake again is not there anymore. - Mafia Expert (talk) 15:13, 6 August 2008 (UTC)

Decline reason:

If you are able to resolve things by consensus, why didn't you here? No, this just confirms that the block was properly placed. I won't argue that rules can be open to interpretation, but the important thing is to keep to the spirit of the rule. By edit warring, you cause disruption, and get blocked. It's that simple. — Hersfold ^(t/a/c) 16:54, 6 August 2008 (UTC)

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I actually started to unblock you but in doing so, I decided not to based on your "I don't agree" comment above. Toddst1 (talk) 15:57, 6 August 2008 (UTC)

Note to other admins: please review Wikipedia:Ani#User:Mynameisstanley. Toddst1 (talk) 16:03, 6 August 2008 (UTC)

Since this is to only place I can go right now:

Hi, Todd. I don´t think I got a fair treatment when you blocked me. Apparently, you thought so yourself, because you were willing to unblock, but declined to do so after my comments to the block reviewer. I did not behave uncivil, did not use offensive language – I just defended myself. Apparently that is not allowed. That was the second unfair treatment – and, excuse me for saying so – bordered on abuse of power. I admitted my mistake and – in so many words – promised not to do it again. What else did I have to do? Go on my knees and beg for mercy?

Fair enough, I violated 3RR in my growing irritation over the disruptive editing by User talk:Mynameisstanley, and his double User talk:Sdhilio‎ (see: here). This has been going on for some time now. No appropriate action has been taken, while several admins have been alerted. I am not the only one with serious problems about the editing of Mynameisstanley, just check here, and User talk:Mynameisstanley. To hide the comments on his disruptive editing he deleted some of the comments he received, see [2]. It is impossible to reason with this guy – I got irritated and made a mistake, mea culpa, mea maxima culpa.

In my opinion, the appropriate action would have been to (a) protect the John Gotti article and revert it to its pre-vandalized state, (b) warn the violaters (and that includes me), and (c) wait for the issue to get resolved on the talk page. That is how it was done in Talk:Greenwich Village and worked well. I appreciate that on first sight anyone would think it was a silly edit war – it was –, but I provided all the evidence on previous incidents and would have expected a somewhat better researched handling of the case, which would have led to a different outcome, I think. Don’t bother to explain 3RR to me again, I perfectly understand the policy and that I did violate it – I just think it should have been handled differently.

I could take this case to all kinds of dispute resolutions and commissions, but I will not. I came to Wikipedia to positively contribute and write and edit articles, not to get mixed up in this kind of s—. I am not going to waste my time on this anymore, and like I said before, Mynameisstanley or Sdhilio or whatever else identities he has, is your problem now – I did my part. The only thing I would appreciate is a thorough investigations into this guy and appropriate action on his misbehaviour. As far as I am concerned the incident is over, but I must admit it was an unpleasant experience and my trust in the capacity of admins to fairly judge and handle an issue has been diminished considerably. Sorry for the long rant and thank you for your attention. - Mafia Expert (talk) 18:32, 6 August 2008 (UTC)

I just have to pull you up on one thing. Swapping two images about in an article isn't vandalism, and protecting the page means that no one is able to edit it which is hardly fair. Generally speaking, when two people are edit warring the best way to handle it is to block the two who are causing the disruption. This is how revert wars are usually handled with protection saved only for articles where the disruption cannot be dealt with by blocking. I realise that you didn't know this when you made the complaint and it's a tough way to learn it now. Theresa Knott | The otter sank 21:00, 6 August 2008 (UTC)

The situation has changed slightly - your block is still 12 hours, however the other editor has been blocked for a week. For what's it worth, I think this revised outcome is reasonably fair. PhilKnight (talk) 21:19, 6 August 2008 (UTC)

Dear Theresa, if you refuse to see the incident in a broader context, you are probably right. However, my point is that the decision was too rash given the pattern of misbehaving of the other user. For what it is worth, another editor reverted the edits of Mynameisstanley again - and rightly so. With the benefit of hindsight, maybe it was better not to protect John Gotti. Fortunately, the other editor did not get blocked as well for edit warring. And yes, I noticed action has been undertaken against Mynameisstanley after all. Maybe it all did serve a purpose somehow. - Mafia Expert (talk) 21:32, 6 August 2008 (UTC)

It has been pointed out to me that my comment above may have come across rather harshly. That wasn't the intent. My apologies for any offence. You are clearly a positive contributor to Wikipedia and that's why I had intended to unblock you. Heck, 3RR is relatively easy to violate.

However the other editor wasn't vandalising and it was an edit war. To be fair to the other party, I had to block you. You both got light blocks, and quite frankly, I'm not known for giving light blocks. Appropriately, as Phil pointed out, the other user's block has been extended. If you had said "Shucks, I got carried away. Sorry." you would have been unblocked.

I look forward to working constructively with you in the future. Best regards. Toddst1 (talk) 21:55, 6 August 2008 (UTC)

Right, so I did have to go on my knees and beg for mercy. I hope you realise your message did not really help. I did admit my error, I said I would not do it again, but not humbly enough to satisfy your ego. Pffff. Well, let's just consider it a chain of errors and hope everybody has learned his lesson and will behave in the future. Kind regards. - Mafia Expert (talk) 22:13, 6 August 2008 (UTC)

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how do i create a new page? i went to the create new page site and was sent to another couple sites. I would like to create one for Loudonville, New York. THANKS! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Scooberwiz (talk • contribs) 18:36, 7 August 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for the help! Sorry, I could only find the Loudonville, Ohio article. I will be sure to practice first. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Scooberwiz (talk • contribs) 12:22, 8 August 2008 (UTC)

Carmine Alfieri

Hi and thanks a lot for the compliments. I have added some more information regarding the subject backed by a secondary reliable source.

However, i differ from your opinion that AmericanMafia.com is not a reliable source. This is because the host of the website, Rick Porrello, is himself a reputed researcher and authority on the Mafia in the United States. He has authored a couple of books on the Cleveland Mafia and one of them (To kill the Irishman) is even being optioned for a movie. The same goes for Mike La Sorte, Allan May, John Tuohy and the other contributors to the website.

Also, according to WP:SPS, Self-published material may, in some circumstances, be acceptable when produced by an established expert on the topic of the article whose work in the relevant field has previously been published by reliable third-party publications. Regards. Joyson Noel (talk) 14:04, 17 August 2008 (UTC)

Allright. I agree with you about La Sorte. Joyson Noel (talk) 16:39, 17 August 2008 (UTC)

Vincenzo Casillo

Thanks a lot, dude. I have not yet finished with the article and i am planning to work on more Camorra articles as well. Joyson Noel (talk) 13:35, 18 August 2008 (UTC)

Hey dude, i am currently working on the Nuova Camorra Organizzata article. Please dont make any edits to the article, until i am done with it. You will know when i have finished, when i replace the "inuse" template with the "underconstruction" template. Thanks. Joyson Noel (talk) 08:07, 20 August 2008 (UTC)

Antonino Rizutto

Hi Mafia Expert,

re. Antonino Rizzuto, I missed this deletion discussion completely. I have asked User:Shereth (talk) to review the deletion, and have provided more information on this person which makes him notable and newsworth.

As the initial flagger, I would appreciate it if you could review this evidence on talk, and leave your own opinion, negative or otherwise, on this matter.

I will accept the decision of Shereth either way.

Also you extensively edited my contribution on Gaspare Pulizzi, can you please leave your reasons for doing so on the discussion page, as I'm confused as to why you deleted a lot of content and references, particularly the "S" magazine, which reprints first-person testimony given to magistrates. thanks! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Seaneendubh (talk • contribs) 09:03, 5 September 2008 (UTC)

Hi

Welcome back, Mafia Expert! What prevented you from editing articles for so long? Joyson Noel (talk) 16:53, 8 September 2008 (UTC)

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Re: Sources

Hi, Thanks for notifying me about the problem with the sources in the Edoardo Contini article. The statement about them being bonded by strong family relationships was actually not mentioned in the source, but instead taken from the Secondigliano Alliance article which i translated from the Italian wikipedia. I have now removed this statement from the article and have added a new reference to back up this statement: "The Secondigliano Alliance was created with the sole purpose to control the drug trade and the extortion rackets in many suburbs of Naples." As for the last issue about me not mentioning the source in the references, dont worry about it. I promise to do so from now onwards. As a matter of fact, i mentioned the names of the newspaper and date in nearly all references of the article, with the exception of sources which were neither newspapers or magazines. Please feel free to inform me in the event of any future problems regarding sources or anything else from my part. I would greatly appreciate it. Regards, Joyson Noel (talk) 15:06, 3 October 2008 (UTC)

Re: Translation again

Hi, you are welcome. A very good translation on the whole, I would say. Just some observations: I would translate "'aggiustare' le cose" as "to sort things out", but I suppose that "accommodate matters" has the same (or a very similar) meaning. "Ma chi glielo ha fatto fare?" is an Italian idiom (literally "Who made him do it?" in this case) which means "Why did he do it? I wouldn't have done it (seeing the consequences)", and isn't usually meant in its literal sense as a question about who persuaded or compelled someone to do something. I don't know if "Who made him do it?" in English can have this idiomatic sense. "Chissà quale fine farà" refers to a person, and literally means "who knows how he will end up", the implication being that he will come to a bad end or at least to no good. --Analytikone (talk) 00:30, 7 October 2008 (UTC)

Category:History of the Camorra in Italy

Hi, i propose that the category's name be changed to "History of the Camorra" as that would also include any notable Camorra related event such as the Mafia-Camorra War that occured outside of Italy. Joyson Noel (talk) 12:24, 7 October 2008 (UTC)

All right then, in that case i'll try my best in improving those articles and referencing them, if possible. However, the historical Brooklyn Camorra organization and its close allies, the Navy st. gang and Coney Island gang were considered to be Camorristi. So, can i re-instate the "Camorristi" category to those articles that you removed. Joyson Noel (talk) 04:46, 8 October 2008 (UTC)

Well, i still feel that the category "History of the Camorra in Italy" should be changed to "History of the Camorra" as that also would include any past or present Camorra related event that could occur outside of Italy. I dont think that the two extra categories would be necessary, especially since as you have mentioned, the Camorra does not exist in the United States anymore, and doing so would give readers the wrong impression.

Also, while Al Capone, Vito Genovese, Joey Gallo, Frank Tieri, to name a few, were of Neapolitan descent, they were never considered to be Camorristi. On the other hand, pre-Luciano era mobsters such as Pellegrino Morano, Ralph Daniello, Alphonso Sgroia were members of the Brooklyn Camorra organization and their allies, Navy st. gang and Coney Island gang, and were considered to be Camorristi. Pellegrino Morano himself was reputed to be a Camorra godfather. Perhaps, this problem could be solved if we just change the description on the category to "members of the Neapolitan Camorra and its associates". Joyson Noel (talk) 08:42, 8 October 2008 (UTC)

Since the American Mafia and the Sicilian Mafia are two separate entities, their having separate categories are justified. The American Mafia is an offshoot of the Sicilian Mafia, inducting anyone of Italian heritage, whereas the same was not the case for the historical American Camorra. It did not evolve into a separate organization. Moreover, the American Camorra disappeared in the early twenties. As such, it is better to change the name of the category as well as the description in the "Camorristi" category to include members and their associates, both within and outside Italy. Also, while there has not been any significant Camorra related event outside Italy, the possibility of it happening in the future cannot be ruled out. Especially since many Camorristi have been known to operate outside of Italy, for example, Raffaele Amato in Spain and Antonio La Torre in Aberdeen, Scotland. Joyson Noel (talk) 18:59, 8 October 2008 (UTC)

Again, i disagree. The La Torre clan was also based in Aberdeen, Scotland, and the head of its UK section, Antonio La Torre was also referred to as "local don of the Camorra". In fact, they spent most of their illegal proceeds from narcotics trafficking and extortion in the real estate, tourism and restaurant sectors in the city. Due to their substantial enterprises in Scotland, both legitimate and illegitimate, they even went as far as to induct a Scottish person into their clan. Joyson Noel (talk) 07:25, 12 October 2008 (UTC)

Re:Calogero Bagarella

Thanks for adding some references to the article. However, the article was translated by me from the Italian wikipedia, which explains why there are no references. Sure, i will work on providing reliable references for the article as well. Joyson Noel (talk) 00:16, 15 October 2008 (UTC)

Mafia in popular culture

Hmmm while it is true I hadn't referenced this section, I'm not sure exactly why it ought to have been deleted and what part of it was 'untrue'. Mafioso and Il Boss are two notable-ish Italian films about the Sicilian mafia, and the Godfather Part II, a very well regarded and notable film no matter who you ask, explicitly deals with the issue. Perhaps if I reinstated the section but added references (although I'm not sure what needed referencing, the articles pretty much reference themselves, but if this is not good enough I could put up any "100 greatest films" list as a reference and the Godfather will be somewhere near the top)?

On another note, I think you've made some fantastic contributions to Italian organized crime related articles. Keep up the good work! Nicknackrussian (talk) 18:39, 21 October 2008 (UTC)

I see what you mean, and I'm not really in a position to talk about Italian film/television since my knowledge doesn't really go beyond 5 or 6 films. But the second Godfather is a film pretty much anyone can recognise and does deal with the actual Sicilian side of things (the murder of Vito's original family and his return to Sicily to kill the boss responsible). I feel that it should warrant a mention somewhere in the article since when many Westerners think of the Sicilian mafia they think Godfather, and definetely should be mentioned should a popular culture section prop up. Nicknackrussian (talk) 19:03, 21 October 2008 (UTC)

Well I'm Russian, live in Britain and can safely say more Brits and Russkies would know about a major Hollywood film than they would about an Italian film about the same topics. Unfortunate perhaps, but true (yes I know Russia wouldn't count as Western, but that would be in favor of my argument, demonstrating how widely-know these films are). Besides what they would have seen on the news about the capture of Provenzano, most people would fill in the blanks with what they "know", rightly or wrongly, from popular culture, which is where the Godfather comes in. Nicknackrussian (talk) 19:26, 21 October 2008 (UTC)

Date of birth of Nicola Gentile

You reverted my correction of the date of birth to the article, and further claimed that the date of birth in the FBI file is wrong. Could you please back up your claim with a reply, or i will revert the edit later on myself. Regards, Joyson Noel (talk) 19:16, 21 October 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for clearing that out. I honestly missed the reference provided for the date of birth. Joyson Noel (talk) 22:10, 21 October 2008 (UTC)

Image:Time DeGasperi.jpg listed for deletion

An image or media file that you uploaded or altered, Image:Time DeGasperi.jpg, has been listed at Wikipedia:Images and media for deletion. Please see the discussion to see why this is (you may have to search for the title of the image to find its entry), if you are interested in it not being deleted. Thank you. Damiens.rf 15:12, 16 November 2008 (UTC)

• You will need to add a "Fair use rationale" to the photo file like what I have done here. Let me know if you need any help with that. Take care. JungleCat Shiny!/Oohhh! 17:06, 16 November 2008 (UTC)

Comment on my talk page

I think this edit was meant for Damiens.rf, not me; is that right? I'm fed up with him; are you? INTGAFW (talk) 09:06, 22 November 2008 (UTC)

Please don not remove information

Hello, you removed information from 'Ndrangheta because of a dead link. However, a dead link is no valid reason to do so. The world is bigger than internet and people might want to check the hard copy. Read the policy at WP:DEADLINK. Kind regards. - Mafia Expert (talk) 23:26, 30 November 2008 (UTC)

Wilco. I was just getting tired of vandalism/new page patrol and was trying something different. I'll be more cautious in the future and follow deadlink guidelines. They should really post a link to that policy on the deadlink list page. I did read the boxed text there before beginning my editing on dead links, and as there was no "be sure and read this first" message I was assuming we edited under our own recognizance. Thanks for the heads up. LeilaniLad (talk) 15:00, 1 December 2008 (UTC)

Borghese

Can you please add in article information about 4th trial. I have writen everything on article talk page and source is storia siamo noi (not for conspiracy theory) ?--Rečanin (talk) 19:57, 9 December 2008 (UTC)

Can we talk about this ?

Last trial has been because military secret service which has discovered coup has destroyed part of evidence (deleted many names) before it is given to court because of minister of defence order !--Rečanin (talk) 00:59, 12 December 2008 (UTC)

Time Cover William L Clayton.jpg IFD closed

I non-administratively closed Wikipedia:Images_and_media_for_deletion/2008_November_16#Image:Time_Cover_William_L_Clayton.jpg because the image is no longer in use. davidwr/(talk)/(contribs)/(e-mail) 15:21, 10 December 2008 (UTC)

Mafia and Duelling

http://www.1911encyclopedia.org/Mafia

The Mafia thus became a loosely organized society under -an unwritten code of laws or ethics known as Omertd, i.e., manliness (from Sicil. omu, Ital. uomo, a man), which embodied the rules of the Vendetta. Candidates were admitted after trial by duel, and were sworn to resist law and defeat justice. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.238.171.175 (talk) 14:55, 18 January 2009 (UTC)

Thor Halvorssen Hellum

I reverted again based on this edit summary, but then saw that you did re-write some of it in spite of that edit summary. I was going to revert myself, but you've since re-done it again, so I think it's OK now. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 01:11, 19 January 2009 (UTC)

Mafia template

I recently started a Mafia template and I thought I'd see if you have any ideas for improving it.  LinguistAtLarge • Msg  17:33, 19 January 2009 (UTC)

I've improved the proposed changes on the talk page Template talk:Mafia, and would like to see if you have any additional input. Thanks!  LinguistAtLarge • Msg  21:38, 6 February 2009 (UTC)

DYK for Francesco Paolo Varsallona

On January 25, 2009, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Francesco Paolo Varsallona, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

Dravecky (talk) 17:30, 25 January 2009 (UTC)

POV campaign by an anonimous user

Hi expert, I noticed that you too have been reverting the edits of user 217.201.134.249. This user is editing several articles about italian politics and from my point of view he is deliberately trying to switch the POV af all these article in favour of the Berlusconi coalition often by simple removal of true informations. I have already tried to discuss with him but he left the discussion and deliberately ignored it restoring again and again his edits. Do you have any idea about how to stop this?--pokipsy76 (talk) 11:31, 14 February 2009 (UTC)

Riots

Hello Mafia Expert, I'm User:Jok3r of Italian Wikipedia, I write this evening the article of Castelvolturno riots; you can from this article to an article in this edition of wikipedia. we could work together, helping each other to create new and beautiful articles, I admire your work! Good night and good work.--87.0.168.2 (talk) 22:37, 28 February 2009 (UTC)

User notice: temporary 3RR block

Regarding reversions[3] made on March 23 2009 to Francesco Marino Mannoia

You have been blocked from editing for a short time in accordance with Wikipedia's blocking policy for violating the three-revert rule. Please be more careful to discuss controversial changes or seek dispute resolution rather than engaging in an edit war. If you believe this block is unjustified, you may contest the block by adding the text {{unblock|Your reason here}} below.

The duration of the block is 12 hours. William M. Connolley (talk) 22:00, 23 March 2009 (UTC)

Discussion

Alright, if it's expired under Italian copyright law, then it should be permissible to copy here and just post the image (or just a link to the file here since it's a bit graphic). That would be probably be better but I don't know anything about the interaction between copyright laws. I think you should ask at Wikipedia:Media copyright questions about that. As for User:Evenmoremotor, as you can see here, he's basically on "do it again and you will be blocked indefinitely" now. I think that's severe enough. As to why you were blocked and not him, I don't know. User:William M. Connolley said it here but perhaps you can ask him politely. As for Nicola Gentile, I don't understand. We shouldn't be using self-published sources generally. If the dates have been an issue, how can this be the only source? Someone must have a reliable source, and it must be out there (even if not online). The fact that we haven't found a reliable source isn't an excuse to use sources we generally shouldn't. As you can see from the ANI board, the concern was because he was within policy, which is why I've removed quite a bit from Allen Glick, Mickey Featherstone and Marat Balagula. -- Ricky81682 (talk) 00:51, 25 March 2009 (UTC)

Additional information needed on Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Evenmoremotor

Hello. Thank you for filing Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Evenmoremotor. This is an automated notice to inform you that the case is currently missing a code letter, which indicates to checkusers why a check is valid. Please revisit the page and add this. Sincerely, SPCUClerkbot (talk) 20:37, 26 March 2009 (UTC)

You shouldn't have to say it, but you told me so. -- Ricky81682 (talk) 20:55, 27 March 2009 (UTC)

Cesare Mori

Hello

I am trying to contribute to Cesare Mori's page and I saw you erased the bibliography. Is it a problem for Wikipedia standards if the books are not in English? Because I'm afraid that none of Arrigo Petacco's books was translated into English and besides, I cannot find on Google books the English original of

Moses I Finley, Denis Mack Smith, Christopher Duggan, Kai Brodersen, "Geschichte Siziliens und der Sizilianer", C.H.Beck, 2006

Regards,

S Vecchiato —Preceding unsigned comment added by S vecchiato (talk • contribs) 07:08, 28 March 2009 (UTC)

Request from Joyson Noel

Hi dude, i have a favor to ask of you. Do you mind creating the following articles on Camorristi? My final exams are commencing tomorrow and will end only on May 8. As a result, i will be busy throughout the duration of this period and will be unable to contribute any edits to wikipedia. So, please create these for me if you can. It will be greatly appreciated. They are as follows:

• Francesco Mallardo, boss of the Mallardo clan
• Luigi Vollaro, boss of the Vollaro clan
• Lorenzo Nuvoletta, boss of the Nuvoletta clan
• Gennaro Licciardi, boss of the Licciardi clan

I have noticed that you have created many articles on Mafiosi women. Perhaps, you would be interested in creating an article about Erminia Giuliano, Giuliano clan boss. Thanks. Joyson Noel (talk) 21:38, 19 April 2009 (UTC)

If you don't have time for the articles, or are simply not interested, then it's all right. I'll understand. It was just a request. You can ignore it, if you like. Joyson Noel (talk) 17:30, 21 April 2009 (UTC)

Pupeta Maresca wedding photo

I'm stuck in a difficult situation here. I found this wedding photo of Pupeta Maresca with Pasquale Simonetti while browsing. This is the link. The photo was taken on Naples in 1954. The photo should be in public domain in Italy, because its term of copyright has expired. As per Italian copyright law, simple, documentary photographs without creative input of the author enter the public domain after 20 years counted from January 1st of the calendar year following their first publication.

However, the photo which is taken from the Bettmann Collection is specified as being under "Rights Managed". Such content is licensed for specific predefined usages, for which usage fees must be paid.

The photo is in public domain under Italian law, yet this site is claiming this as copyrighted. So, what do you suggest should be done? Should this photo be uploaded as under PD, or not? I feel that i should. I'm waiting for your opinion. Please reply as soon as possible. I'm only free today, and i won't be having much free time tomorrow. Thanks. Joyson Noel (talk) 18:49, 21 April 2009 (UTC)

I'll upload the image. That stupid logo is very light and not much visible, if you look at it as a thumbnail. Your right! It's copyright status has expired long ago under Italian law and should be in public domain. Therefore, they have no right to claim authority for that, especially since it's not a work of art. Joyson Noel (talk) 19:50, 21 April 2009 (UTC)

Talk:Castel Volturno riots

Hi, there is a dispute going on in regard to whether the article's title should be changed to Castel Volturno massacre or not. Please join the discussion in the article's talk page. Your intervention is urgently needed. Joyson Noel (talk) 21:11, 25 April 2009 (UTC)

No need for that. The discussion is over. Joyson Noel (talk) 21:22, 25 April 2009 (UTC)

About sources

I'm sorry. I assumed that David Amoruso was a credible authority on this subject. I will change the sources, when i get the time. Joyson Noel (talk) 07:58, 26 April 2009 (UTC)

User:Mynameisstanley

Hello Mafia Expert, i have reason to believe that our "old friend" is back. This guy is obviously not that bright and certainly doesn't seem to understand the meaning of "Banned". It seems to me that these accounts User:Persistent Organic Pollutants and User:Morningmistblue might belong to the one and the same user. If you just look at the contributions of the first as well as the latter, you will find that the first identity was created on 11th May, whereas the second was created on the 14th (a mere three days within each other). Also, both these accounts have made only a few edits and all to the Organized crime related articles which were previously vandalized by Mynameisstanley through his many sockpuppets (such as Stephen Grammauta, Mickey Cohen, Gaspare Mutolo, etc). They both seem to have a pre-occupation with deleting references, merging the "References" section with the "Further reading" section, minimizing image size, etc, all hall marks of Mynameisstanley.

As such, i request you to file a usercheck to be conducted on these accounts, ascertaining whether these accounts are from the same IP address, as well as how many more accounts are there. If they are originating from the same IP, then it can be positively determined to be him. The reason i am requesting you is because i don't know how to file a usercheck request myself. Given his history of sockpuppetry and repetitive ban evasions, this request should not be rejected. Joyson Noel (talk) 19:29, 14 May 2009 (UTC)

I have filed a a Check User request here. You are invited to add your comment. Joyson Noel (talk) 17:23, 16 May 2009 (UTC)

Left a message at User:William M. Connolley's talk page regarding this matter. 72.74.223.106 (talk) 12:10, 21 July 2009 (UTC)

Gang Land News

Following my comments at ANI, I've started a discussion at Wikipedia:Reliable_sources/Noticeboard#Gang_Land_News about Gang Land News if you are interested. As a suggestion, have you guys considered a work group on organized crime under WP:BIO or a task force under WP:CRIME? There should be some central place to discuss these kinds of issues. -- Ricky81682 (talk) 12:12, 26 May 2009 (UTC)

Re: Friendly Advice

Thanks for giving me some much needed advice, dude. I'll keep them in mind. I'm sorry. I did not realize that you felt that i was ordering you around when i sent you a request to create articles. I assure that is not the case. It's just that i'm a very informal person in real life and always frank and to the point. I don't mean to be rude. I also want you to know that the way i behaved today is not how i normally behave. I have waited for over ten days now with no response. Nobody seems to care. Meanwhile, that dimwit is making a nuisance out of himself. Day before yesterday, he vandalized my complaint calling me "gay". Today, he started reverting all my edits one by one through a sock entitled User:UR a Dope. This act totally aggravated me and i lost my usual cool. At the time i was elaborating on the complaint today, i was actually being harrassed by his sock, which explains why i acted the way i did. I guess i expect too much from others. Somewhere along the way, i forgot that they are volunteers like me as well and are under no obligation to listen to me. Thanks for reminding me of that. Joyson Noel (talk) 15:49, 26 May 2009 (UTC)

Replaceable fair use Image:Vito Roberto Palazzolo.jpg

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Hi Mafia Expert, I've decline the speedy for Image:Vito Roberto Palazzolo.jpg, and opened a discussion at Wikipedia:Files for deletion. The discussion is here. Thanks. PhilKnight (talk) 19:25, 5 June 2009 (UTC)

Santo Sorge

Hi,

great job. I would like also to add references from Pantaleone's book Mafia e Droga. If you don't have it (sound strange) i can add them. PS: I got Santo Sorge birth/death date from the Social Security Death Index Database. Very useful!

Ciao BBerry —Preceding unsigned comment added by BBerryIT (talk • contribs) 23:38, 15 June 2009 (UTC)

Here there are some additional infos about Santo, but there are no detailed references. Maybe on NYTimes Archives we can get something.

According to Joe Bonanno:

‘Santo Sorge belongs to the the Cosa Nostra. It is my personal knowledge that his function was to go and come from America to Italy and vice-versa, carrying out tasks that I don’t know. I was never able to understand to what family he belongs. He was a close friend of all Cosa Nostra bosses.’

Sorge was also deep into another libel suite brought against Parade Publications for $1,160,000 on the basis of a magazine article which had said that Sorge was listed by former FBN Commissioner, Harry Anslinger, as the number 5 boss in the top 10 bosses of the American underworld.

The libel suit against New York and the two officers was dismissed on March 19th 1968.

Santo Sorge was without doubt, one of the great 'unknowns' of the American Mafia. —Preceding unsigned comment added by BBerryIT (talk • contribs) 00:21, 16 June 2009 (UTC)

Problem with (possibly) Mynameisstanley

MafiaExpert, I'm apparently being stalked by one of the IPs possibly being used by Mynameisstanley. Right now he keeps reposting random IP addresses on my talk page, the same ones on User talk:William M. Connolley, which he claims are my "sockpuppets". I've tried to be polite up until now but I think he's pretty much trying to pick a fight with me at this point. Any suggestions? 72.74.223.106 (talk) 23:55, 21 July 2009 (UTC)

Suspected Sockpuppets of 71.184.43.212

• Special:Contributions/71.184.55.11
• Special:Contributions/71.184.43.212
• Special:Contributions/71.184.46.252
• Special:Contributions/71.184.49.28
• Special:Contributions/71.126.142.44
• Special:Contributions/71.246.120.113
• Special:Contributions/72.74.198.46
• Special:Contributions/72.74.209.246
• Special:Contributions/72.74.218.37
• Special:Contributions/72.74.223.106