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:Your instinct is probably correct, since according to Allmusic.com: [http://www.allmusic.com/album/wilson-phillips-r87897/credits Joe Walsh did play on that album]. That is not to say that he played on that ''song'', but he's the only slide guitarist noted in the credits, so it is almost certainly him. As far as the other musicians, it would be hard to say since the credit list does not break down the musicians by song, but the album itself featured, besides Joe Walsh, some other well-known session musicians whose names I recognize, including [[Abraham Laboriel]] Sr. on bass and [[Michael Landau]] and [[Steve Lukather]] on guitar, though there is no telling from Allmusic which tracts they played on (Abraham Laboriel is one of three bassists listed there, for example). If you can get a copy of the album itself, it may have [[liner notes]] which break down which musicians played on which songs, some albums do that. --[[User:Jayron32|<font style="color:#000099">Jayron</font>]]'''''[[User talk:Jayron32|<font style="color:#009900">32</font>]]''''' 15:40, 23 July 2011 (UTC)
:Your instinct is probably correct, since according to Allmusic.com: [http://www.allmusic.com/album/wilson-phillips-r87897/credits Joe Walsh did play on that album]. That is not to say that he played on that ''song'', but he's the only slide guitarist noted in the credits, so it is almost certainly him. As far as the other musicians, it would be hard to say since the credit list does not break down the musicians by song, but the album itself featured, besides Joe Walsh, some other well-known session musicians whose names I recognize, including [[Abraham Laboriel]] Sr. on bass and [[Michael Landau]] and [[Steve Lukather]] on guitar, though there is no telling from Allmusic which tracts they played on (Abraham Laboriel is one of three bassists listed there, for example). If you can get a copy of the album itself, it may have [[liner notes]] which break down which musicians played on which songs, some albums do that. --[[User:Jayron32|<font style="color:#000099">Jayron</font>]]'''''[[User talk:Jayron32|<font style="color:#009900">32</font>]]''''' 15:40, 23 July 2011 (UTC)


:Ahem! The Wikipedia article [[Wilson Phillips (album)]] actually contains the answer the OP wanted. (Saved me from having to go downstairs and check my copy, which would have been my next step.){The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} [[Special:Contributions/90.197.66.33|90.197.66.33]] ([[User talk:90.197.66.33|talk]]) 23:55, 23 July 2011 (UTC)
:Ahem! The Wikipedia article [[Wilson Phillips (album)]] actually contains the answer the OP wanted. (Saved me from having to go downstairs and check my copy, which would have been my next step.)(And now I have, the sleeve notes do indeed contain very comprehensive details of the musicians involved.) {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} [[Special:Contributions/90.197.66.33|90.197.66.33]] ([[User talk:90.197.66.33|talk]]) 23:55, 23 July 2011 (UTC)


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July 17

O Superman in the British Charts

What was the song that kept O Superman off the top of the British Charts? DuncanHill (talk) 22:53, 17 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

"It's My Party" by Dave Stewart & Barbara Gaskin. --Viennese Waltz 22:57, 17 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]
(ec) According to [1] (reachable by two clicks from the reference in the O Superman article) it was the Dave Stewart and Barbara Gaskin cover of "It's My Party". --Jayron32 22:58, 17 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]
One click, actually (maybe that's why I beat you to it :)) --Viennese Waltz 23:01, 17 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you. How remiss of me not to know which ref to click in the article and then follow and then navigate to another page to find the answer. Three clicks (once on the ref number, then on the reflink itself, then another to find the chart for the week). DuncanHill (talk) 23:24, 17 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]
No problem. What are the reference desks for if not to make you feel inadequate and lazy!  ;) The preceding was a joke. --Jayron32 23:28, 17 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]
By the way, it was this Dave Stewart, in case anyone got confused by your link to a dabpage. Two can play at that game :) DuncanHill (talk) 23:34, 17 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Yeah, I forgot for a second that there were two Dave Stewarts. Wouldn't it be great to have a band with Dave Stewart, Paul Young on vocals, Roger Taylor on drums, Mick Jones on guitar, and then everyone could get major confused. --Jayron32 03:12, 18 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Aaaah

What do you call the "Aaaaah" in a song; specifically; the part in the solo of Stop Crying Your Heart Out. --Addihockey10 e-mail 23:43, 17 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

A slurred vocal note (or a sustained vocal note if it doesn't change pitch.) 99.24.223.58 (talk) 02:57, 18 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]
See Slur (music) and Non-lexical vocables in music for articles about this. --Jayron32 03:08, 18 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Ah - silly me. As a guitarist I should know that. Thanks! --Addihockey10 e-mail 05:15, 18 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]


July 18

Identify this film starring Audrey Hepburn

Several years ago I saw a clip about Audrey Hepburn and it mentioned her involvement in some films where she played characters who could not stay with their lovers: One was Roman Holiday (1953), while another contained a scene where her character grabbed onto a train carrying her departing lover. What was the name of the latter film? 17:40, 18 July 2011 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.116.187.230 (talk)

To me that sounds like the climactic scene of Love in the Afternoon, in which Audrey Hepburn runs after Gary Cooper as his train leaves the station, and he finally decides to lift her up onto the train. My memory of the film is rather faint, but our page on it has a plot summary. --Antiquary (talk) 20:20, 18 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Could it be War and Peace? The Mark of the Beast (talk) 22:14, 19 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Looks like Antiquary's memory is accurate. Here's a Youtube video of the final scene from Love in the Afternoon. Clarityfiend (talk) 00:39, 20 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]
There were no commercially-operated trains in Russia, or anywhere else, during the Napoleonic Wars, which is when War and Peace was set. George Stephenson's "Rocket" was built in 1829. -- Jack of Oz [your turn] 20:59, 22 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Obscure 1974 single

I've been trying to recall the name of a single that paddled in the lower reaches of the UK charts in 1974 or thereabouts. All I can remember are snatches of the lyrics. The da das are a part where I can remember the meter but not the words, and the "beed 'n' bob 'n' bob" parts are recorded between the vocal lines in a vaguely skat style with a slight echo effect added:

Goodbye

Goodbye my friend Goodbye

Da da

Da da da da daa da

You'll wake up (beed 'n 'bob n bob)

You'll wake up (beed 'n 'bob n bob bob bob bob)

You'll wake up (beed 'n 'bob n bob)

mmm You'll wake up"

The only other thing I remember is that a few DJ's left the record playing on the runout track where the exclamation "DO IT!" had been recorded after the song had finished.

Any ideas? Britmax (talk) 17:52, 18 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Yes. This is "Break" by Aphrodite's Child, and the "DO IT" is actually a reference to the album the track comes from, which is "666". Thank you for reminding me of this epic piece of prog rock - I heartily recommend it. --TammyMoet (talk) 18:06, 18 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you! A bit more of a challenge than a blockbuster Fleetwood Mac track, though, what? Britmax (talk) 18:15, 18 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Now that is the kind of song challenge we like around here. --Jayron32 02:18, 19 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

For a minute I had thought you meant Seasons In The Sun - Terry Jacks 1974 μηδείς (talk) 19:14, 18 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]


July 19

June 1949 and film

I'm doing a report for my film class on great films during June 1949 (every person in the class has to pick a month and year to report on, so I picked June 1949 randomly). So I have two questions:

1. Which film had the largest advertising campaign (as in which one received the most publicity) during June 1949?

2. What was the highest grossing film during June 1949 (I read somewhere that it was Sorrowful Jones, but I don't know if that's correct)? 98.234.170.202 (talk) 01:10, 19 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • Wikipedia doesn't have articles by the specific month, but you could start at 1949 in film and do some research from there. You may be able to tease out some info about June specifically, and you can also follow sources from articles to find stuff outside of Wikipedia. --Jayron32 01:23, 19 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Doesn't really answer your question but this page shows "A History of the Movies Exhibited in Salisbury / Rowan County, N.C." from May-June 1949. Alansplodge (talk) 16:52, 20 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]
According to AFI, the following are June 1949 releases in the United States:
  • West of El Dorado (1949)
  • Outcasts of the Trail (1949)
  • The Crime Doctor's Diary (1949)
  • Manhandled (1949)
  • Omoo-Omoo The Shark God (1949)
  • Alimony (1949)
  • Colorado Territory (1949)
  • The Judge Steps Out (1949)
  • Leave It to Henry (1949)
  • The Daring Caballero (1949)
  • Hellfire (1949)
  • Hold That Baby! (1949)
  • The Secret of St. Ives (1949)
It does not list anything about money spent on an ad campaign or which movies were being advertised in June 1949 - which could be movie trailers, posters, radio commercials, billboards, etc... -- kainaw 16:33, 21 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Horror film

Please name some very frightening horror films, so frightening that I will not be able to sleep at night after watching those movies. --7NB90O (talk) 01:54, 19 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Horror films will give you a place to find some. --Jayron32 02:17, 19 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]
It depends largely on what you find scary. I personally find psychological horror is far more disturbing than things jumping out and going "Boo!" but some people prefer the opposite. Hints would be appreciated. HominidMachinae (talk) 02:31, 19 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Science has proven that The Shining is the scariest film. Or, science will soon prove it. Comet Tuttle (talk) 03:43, 19 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]
The Blair Witch Project. The Exorcist. The Omen. --Viennese Waltz 07:49, 19 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I laughed at The Exorcist. HiLo48 (talk) 08:43, 19 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Don't Look Now, The Comfort of Strangers, Repulsion, The Tenant. Pepso2 (talk) 09:49, 19 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]
The Core. So horrifyingly stupid, you will be kept awake at night trying to figure out what kind of monster thought that plot was a good idea. Googlemeister (talk) 13:47, 19 July 2011 (UTC) [reply]
The Hellstrom Chronicle is one scary mind-fuck. 93.95.251.162 (talk) 15:02, 19 July 2011 (UTC) Martin.[reply]
For psychological films, you can look here. For general horror films, you can go here. Hope this helps. -- Luke Talk 17:58, 19 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Three of the scariest things I've ever seen (other than the bill from the mechanic) are the Doctor Who episode The Empty Child, the 1968 BBC adaptation of the M R James ghost story Whistle and I'll Come to You, and John Carpenter's Prince of Darkness. -- Elen of the Roads (talk) 22:45, 19 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I'm not into horror really at all but what first came to mind when reading this question was another Doctor Who episode, "Blink". Dismas|(talk) 00:54, 20 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Are you my mommy ? Pleclown (talk) 06:47, 20 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

No one should consider himself a cultured human who has not seen Blink. The Shining is a favorite, but not the stuff of nightmares. Signs is a brilliant movie with one of the most classic sci-fi scary scenes ever.

Yes, Blink was stunning. Didn't laugh at that one. HiLo48 (talk) 12:24, 22 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

But the only movie that ever really scared me was the original Friday the 13th. μηδείς (talk) 01:27, 20 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I would recommend The Turn of the Screw (1959), It (1990) and anything involving Chuckie. If we knew ahead of time what Blink was like we wouldn't have let our 8-year-old watch it. He still doesn't want to see them in clips for the commercials. Rmhermen (talk) 03:02, 20 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Horror films don't generally bother me, but for some reason I found the original Child's Play quite frightning, although I found the sequels quite laughable. --Dweller (talk) 12:30, 21 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

No one has yet mentioned Alien (film), which I found pants-shittingly scary. The later sequels fall short as being more "action" oriented, but the first one has that horror-film pacing that is really suspensful and frightening. --Jayron32 17:44, 21 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I agree, Jayron. I saw Alien at the movies, I was not prepared for what happened after the guy woke up, and I have always declined to see it again on TV despite having had many dozens of opportunities. -- Jack of Oz [your turn] 20:55, 22 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Then there's good 'ol zombie scary like in 28 Days Later and The Crazies (2010 film). —Akrabbimtalk 18:09, 21 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I found personally found The_Descent pretty frightening. APL (talk) 03:09, 22 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

July 20

Questions about Yojimbo

I'm a fan of Yojimbo and I've seen the movie a number of times, but there are a couple things I haven't been able to make sense of, possibly because I'm not that familiar with Japanese culture. These are rather specific questions, so bear with me. Any insight is appreciated.

There's a scene where the nameless ronin and the tavern keeper watch the visiting inspector and his men across the street as they're attended to (by the town's constable, I think.) The ronin comments that they are drinking spiked tea. How would he know the tea is spiked, and why does he think this is so amusing? Is he implying that the inspector doesn't know the tea is spiked?

Shortly thereafter the constable brings in three smallish white objects and sets one by the inspector and each of his men. The inspector appears to steal the one set next to him. What are the white objects?

Also, Seibei refers to the ronin as 'master', according to the subtitles I'm reading. Is this a literal translation? Is it some specific title that's being used? (e • nn • en!) 11:02, 20 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Re: your third question, possibly senpai, but I haven't seen it in a while. Recury (talk) 19:05, 20 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

speaking of Kurosawa

I'm watching The Bad Sleep Well, in which Toshirō Mifune and Takashi Shimura are antagonists; I'm wondering how often that happened. IMDB lists 54 times they worked together, of which I remember only Stray Dog and of course Seven Samurai, in both of which they were (more or less) novice and mentor, and Rashōmon, in which they're neither comrades nor antagonists. —Tamfang (talk) 18:32, 20 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

And what's the tune that Nishi (Mifune) keeps whistling? —Tamfang (talk) 07:47, 21 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

According to this page, en translation is here, the tune was composed by Masaru Satō. The title is just Nishi's whistle 1 and Nishi's whistle 2. Oda Mari (talk) 08:35, 21 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

July 21

Rescue Mission (band)

In 2005, Rescue Mission formed and debuted live in Austin, TX. 2007 saw the release of their first, self-titled album. Performing to enthusiastic crowds, that same year the band toured the US with Bird [Mark Burgess (ex-Chameleons)]. The group continued to perform live regionally and sold out of their debut album and merchandise. The next two years saw Rescue Mission maturing and refining their craft. They decided to focus their sound on the post-punk aesthetic, while incorporating well-crafted pop songs. The five-piece is currently recording their second album (as yet untitled), which is slated for 2011. It is planned to be released in vinyl, cd and digital formats. New merchandise and web-design is being developed to coincide with the album launch. The band is also arranging and playing shows in support of this upcoming release. Most recently, they have performed with the legendary Swans. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Chadtheprole (talkcontribs) 00:48, 21 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Is there a question? This is the reference desk; WP:Your first article is thataway. Clarityfiend (talk) 08:23, 21 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Read Wikipedia:Notability (music) before deciding whether to write the article. Not all bands are deemed worthy of a Wikipedia article: the most important requirement is that they've had significant coverage in the music press (not just blogs or fanzines). If you are a member of the band, their manager, an employee of their record label, etc, also read WP:CONFLICT. --Colapeninsula (talk) 08:55, 21 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

find movie

a nurse is abused by pro football quarterback. He severely beats her, she has plastic surgery to change her face and goes to a small maine town to hide from him. He meanwhile kills another woman. She falls in love with local sheriff and the the abuser finds her by accident. She puts on a carnival to support local clinic and he sees her. He is killed by the local sheriff in the end. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.223.17.73 (talk) 19:11, 21 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I'm assuming you're giving us a plot description of the movie you'd like to find? If so, would it be possible for you to tell me around what time was it released, and I may be able to find it for you. Rcsprinter (talk) 19:18, 21 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Should we also assume that it's a US movie due to the references to American football? Dismas|(talk) 19:30, 21 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I've been doing keyword searches at IMDB and I can't find anything matching this. The description sounds like a film very similar to Sleeping with the Enemy (woman with abusive husband runs away, starts new life, he tracks her down). That's not it, but looking for similar films may give you some leads. --Jayron32 19:42, 21 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

UK TV documentary about the mafia

A few days ago on UK TV I watched a documentary about the mafia. It might have been Channel 4 or BBC 4 for example. It was filmed in Naples Italy, although there were also comments by an ex-mobster who had written a book. Does anyone know the name of the ex-mobster? I'm not sure if he was Italian or American. 92.24.138.86 (talk) 20:24, 21 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

This one? or maybe this? What about this? Alansplodge (talk) 22:28, 21 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

It must have been the middle one, although it dosnt give the name of the ex-mobster. 92.24.138.86 (talk) 23:26, 21 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

July 22

Games on Demand vs On Disc

I was about to buy some old xbox 360 games I missed on and I was wondering something. I generally prefer having the disc compared to downloading a game on demand, but I was wondering would there be any difference in quality and/or load time if I purchase the game online, buy the disc and use that, or buy the disc and install the game. Any advice would be appreciated, thanks. 108.3.234.42 (talk) 01:03, 22 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

There should be no difference. There's a difference to the publisher (and developer, if they are earning royalties): If you buy a used disc, they don't get any money, whereas if you buy the game online on Xbox Marketplace, they do. Comet Tuttle (talk) 14:33, 23 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Rome (HBO Series): What do the priests at Caesar's body chant?

In the episode Passover (Rome), Caesar's body is laying on a bier with Calpurnia and some priestesses around. When Servilia visits, you hear the priests chanting something, I believe it is in latin but I don't understand much except "usque" or "utque" and maybe "patre et matre". Is the full text available somewhere? Could it be an actual historical roman death chant? --212.227.35.78 (talk) 07:00, 22 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Single without a release date

Demi Lovato's song "Don't Forget" was released as a single, but not digitally or physically, so that would mean that it was only released to radio, and since she was at Disney back then, it was presumably only sent to Radio Disney. I've searched trough Radio and Records, Allaccess and FMQB for add dates for this song, but I've found nothing and Radio Disney hasn't got an archive for radio adds. All I know is that it was released in March or April 2009. Her label, Hollywood Records, doesn't list releases on their website and they don't have an email. So my question is if somebody has connections at Hollywood or Radio Disney? In that case, could you please ask them about this? I need a release date, format (digital, physical or radio) and publisher ID. Pancake (talk) 13:53, 22 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Allmusic doesn't list it as a single. There's nothing to say that it was ever released as a single. Radio Disney could have just played the album track. Not every song on the radio is on Officially Released Single. --Jayron32 20:12, 22 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Kesha's Take It Off isn't listed at Allmusic either but it was a single. It was also only released to radio. Billboard supports the fact that Don't Forget was released. Pancake (talk) 20:56, 22 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]
"Released" usually means there is some physical media with a catalog number, or at the least some downloadable file availible from the publisher or artist. How does Billboard support that it was "released"? --Jayron32 21:08, 22 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Well, a song that is sent to radio is a single, it doesn't have be released digitally or physically. Billboard reviewed the song in their April 25, 2009 issue under Billboard reviews singles. The long discussion at Talk:Like a Surgeon (Ciara song) came to conclusion that a review by Billboard, where it is clearly referred to as a single, supports that it is. Disney also called it a single. Pancake (talk) 22:07, 22 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Ballpark at Girard Avenue and Parkside Avenue?

There's a Library of Congress image here, of what the LOC says is a ballpark in Philadelphia used mostly by the Negro Leagues. It says it is/was located at Girard Ave. and Parkside Ave., but I can't find any ballparks online that were at that location. Does anyone know which ballpark that is? Delaywaves talk contribs 14:48, 22 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Interesting. The Philadelphia Stars appear to have played at 44th and Parkside Ballpark, and 44th St is now Belmont Ave. That is near the intersection of Girard and Parkside, and it would seem odd to have two ball parks within that proximity. Perhaps the LOC image is simply mislabelled? --LarryMac | Talk 15:05, 22 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]
See [2]. It looks like the ballpark could easily have fit between Parkside and Girard along Belmont Street; there's no reason to assume that all three streets didn't form the outline of the park (you could fit a nice park in that triangle). I wouldn't be surprised if almost no modern trace remained of the park; many early parks were wooden structures that didn't last anyways, and neighborhoods can be built in their place leaving nothing obvious behind. I used to live near where West Side Park in Chicago used to exist; there is literally no sign of it anymore, see if you can find it here... Perhaps the LOC is correct in describing the location. --Jayron32 19:55, 22 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]
That seems like it would make for a BIG ball park, especially back in the 1930s. Also note the description of the 44th and Parkside Ballpark mentions the train tracks, which to my mind would put the park west of Belmont/44th. Actually, if you look at Jayron's first GMaps link, switch to street view, place the little man at the intersection of Belmont and Parkside, look southwest and zoom in, you can see the "Memorial Park" sign and statue mentioned in the article. Of course there still might have been another park at Girard, but to me that seems unlikely. --LarryMac | Talk 21:03, 22 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Not really that big, Fenway Park looks about the same size and configuration of that triangular block. --Jayron32 21:10, 22 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Ballparks were often built on property leased from someone else, and once they ceased to be used, the owners would demolish the stands and develop the property into housing. One of the more famous ballparks, the Polo Grounds, was on land leased from the Coogan family. West Side Park probably was too. It's now occupied by a branch of the University of Illinois, which had no need to retain any part of the ballpark. Wrigley Field was built on a block leased from Chicago for 99 years. The 99 years is nearly up now, but the Cubs may have purchased the land by now. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots08:19, 23 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Song at the End of the How i Met your Mother season 3 episode 17

Hey Everyone (:,

Does anyone know, whats the name of the song at the end of How i met your mother season 3 episode 17. It starts when Ted quits the friendship with Barney in the limousine... I really love this song [:. please, can anybody help me?

greetings Fabju — Preceding unsigned comment added by 46.5.103.216 (talk) 20:25, 22 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Do you have a link to the song so we can listen to it ourselves? Perhaps you can quote a snippet of lyrics? Something to go on would be helpful for us if we are trying to help you. --Jayron32 20:28, 22 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]
sure.. http://www.cucirca.com/2008/06/03/how-i-met-your-mother-season-3-episode-17-the-goat/ , the music starts at 20:15 ... :) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 46.5.103.216 (talk) 20:32, 22 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Do you know that it's actually a song? It sounds like just some stock instrumental music. See stock music as well as the related articles of stock photography and stock footage. Dismas|(talk) 21:17, 22 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Determining time signature

Is there a way to recognize a music's time signature just by listening to it (without looking at the score)? Aquitania (talk) 21:13, 22 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

If you can feel the beat, sub-divisions of a beat, and groups of beats in a piece of music, you can make a reasonable prediction of the time signature the composer chose. However, be aware that there are multiple ways to notate the same aural rhythm, so the only way to tell the exact time signature the composer chose is to look at the score. --Bavi H (talk) 01:04, 23 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Most pop music can be reduced to one of two basic times: "3-time" and "4-time". Everything else is a derivative of these. As a (crappy) rhythm guitarist, I have learned to develop strum patterns based on a three-beat rhythm and a four-beat rhythm. Other time signatures (such as the distinction between 6/8 and 3/4 or between cut time and standard 4/4) are really down to the notation more than the sound of the music. There are some standards (for example, faster tempos are sometimes written in cut time to reduce the number of eighth notes in the score) but as Bavi indicates you can usually write the same piece of music in different time signatures with no difference apparent in the final product. Even the 3/4 vs. 4/4 distinction can be confused by things like triplets which can give 4/4 music a 3/4 feel. With rock music especially, you can spot the time signature usually pretty easily because much rock music is built on the riff and on pretty simple drum and bass rhythms which you can track pretty easily. Even with the occasional rock song built on an unusual time signature (like, say Money by Pink Floyd, which is in 7/4 time), you can easily count off the time signature by tracking the riff through the song. --Jayron32 15:31, 23 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Hanks and the Ranch

Resolved

85 Solved it!!!!!

So in the end, does Hanks go back to the ranch? Shell (Nut Case) (talk) 22:04, 22 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

In the end of what? Dismas|(talk) 22:05, 22 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I'm assuming in the end of Castaway with Tom Hanks? If so, well it's left for the viewer to decide isn't it? ny156uk (talk) 22:59, 22 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Reasonable suggestion. I Googled -Hanks Ranch- but didn't come up with anything meaningful. I was expecting something more recent than Castaway though! Dismas|(talk) 23:03, 22 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Cast_Away...Hanks expression, just before fade-out, makes me thinks he goes back to the ranch. What really bothers me is that the package never gets opened. My money was on a volleyball net. Shell (Nut Case) (talk) 23:11, 22 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

As Ny156uk said, it's left up to the viewer to decide. If you'd like to discuss this, there are many film forums on the internet though the Wikipedia Reference desks are not one of them. Dismas|(talk) 23:13, 22 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Discuss what Dismal? I just had a question on whether Hanks goes back to the Ranch. I had no intent to make you behave so rudely, my apologies. Shell (Nut Case) (talk) 23:31, 22 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Maybe next time, one way of ensuring you don't get people off-side from the outset is to spell out what you're actually asking about. "Hanks and the Ranch" could mean a whole lot of different things, but would mean absolutely nothing to someone who'd never seen Castaway. Heck, I saw that movie but it didn't ring any bells with me. A mere mention of the word "Castaway" would have helped here. We're here to help you, but you need to play your part, too, by giving us questions that are not as vaguely worded as yours was. -- Jack of Oz [your turn] 00:58, 23 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Maybe this will answer your Castaway questions --Amerq (talk) 01:02, 23 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you Amerq, your link was most helpful. (I am still working on what was in the package though) Jackof: Your point it moot. Ny understood my question, clarified and answered it. Dismal was not ignorant of the subject when he decided to be rude and point me off of this site. I recommend no bonus pay this month for the 2 of you. Amerq and Ny get 1 gold star each. Shell (Nut Case) (talk) 01:32, 23 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Actually, ny156uk did not "clarify" your question; only you could ever have done that. Ny assumed he knew what you were talking about, but ended that assumption with a question mark, meaning he was inviting you to confirm or deny. Which you did. You're the one who clarified the question, when asked to do so. All I'm saying is: make it so that we don't have to go through these hoops in the first place. The word "Castaway" in your original question would have achieved that. As for no bonus pay for not being a mind reader - I'll probably cry myself to sleep about that. But I'll have to wait to find out whether I do or not, because, well, I'm not a mind reader.  :) -- Jack of Oz [your turn] 01:52, 23 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Very well. You still have a chance for that bonus pay and a star if you can correctly answer the question of the package contents. Shell (Nut Case) (talk) 01:58, 23 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

First, it's Dismas with an s. Or was that supposed to be a slight aimed at me? Second, we don't get paid. Wikipedia is a volunteer effort. And lastly, open ended comments such as those that you left are often attempts to engage us in debate or discussion. I was simply trying to head that off. All in all, I think I gave you the same courtesy that you extended to us by making us guess what you were talking about. Dismas|(talk) 02:29, 23 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I accept your apology, but can't help you with the salary issue Dismasl( I think you forgot the 'l', when you corrected me). No need to head anything off, if you can't think of an answer, maybe you should work on another question instead of insulting me with your opinion on where I should go. By the way, I googled the letters for the package but havn't found anything yet. Shell (Nut Case) (talk) 03:03, 23 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The movie does not answer the questions you're asking. Was there a novelization of the movie? ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots08:09, 23 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Maybe this (number 5 of the list) can help.--85.55.205.179 (talk) 09:26, 23 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

85.55.205.179 THANK YOU!! You are the bestest Research Desk (entertainment) answer dude ever! It wasn't the volleyball net that I had bet on, but now I finally know. This is the best answer since Brett solved Jules burger question!!!!! Shell (Nut Case) (talk) 11:53, 23 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

However much I do like the quip about the package in Castaway, most film people will agree that the answers provided at that article are fanciful, and that movies must be judged by what actually got released, not what some draft with discarded ideas used to say. That's why when J.K. Rowling claimed Dumbledore was gay, some critics disputed this, and they were right to do so, pointing out that there was no support in the text for this, and that Rowling was just making stuff up afterwards. Similarly, Ridley Scott tried to ruin it for everyone by stating flat-out that Deckard was a replicant, but, again, the movie itself is ambiguous, and therefore there is no definite answer. (I believe Hampton Fancher was quoted afterwards that he had written Deckard as a human. See the problem?) In Castaway, it is undefined (as a programmer would say) whether he goes back to the ranch, and it is undefined what is in the box. That's why you were directed to a chat forum. There is no actual answer to the question within the context of the film, and questions that have only speculation as answers aren't really the remit of the Reference Desk. Comet Tuttle (talk) 14:30, 23 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

From my perspective, there are answers that are not imprinted on the film that exist. That an observer of the film doesn't a) see the obvious answer or b) derive an answer based on clues, does not necessarily make the reality of it that there was nothing in the box or that it is undefined. My perspective is that the truth can be gathered from information in the film and information gathered from the project itself. From another perspective, it could only be answered by the prop manager/fabricator. To me though 85 is spot on. Shell (Nut Case) (talk) 14:54, 23 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

July 23

Halo Wars 2

Will they make a Halo Wars 2? --Amerq (talk) 01:05, 23 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

In this article from March, the creative director at 343 Industries (part of Microsoft) said they are not working on it right now. Maybe someday. Comet Tuttle (talk) 14:16, 23 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I have searched in practically every other venue I know of (YouTube, for example) and have yet o come across a fact-checked, bona-fide list of ALL the studio players who played on Wilson Phillips hit "Impulsive" from their self-titled debut album. My reason for having such an intense interest in that particular song is this: both the lead (slide) and rhythm guitar tracks are extraordinary and I know several other professional guitarists whom share that opinion and who are equally interested in finding-out, once-and-for-all, who the players are who rendered those phenomenal performances, because they form the main basis for the song's appeal, other than the fact that the lead vocal was sung by Wendy Wilson in her first such turn as the featured lead-vocalist for Wilson Phillips.

My PERSONAL opinion is that that inimitable lead, slide-guitar track could ONLY have been played by Joe Walsh, of James Gang and Eagles, among others, fame. The problem with my hypothesis is that the guitarist shown in the video for the song does not LOOK, to me anyway, like Mr. Walsh. In addition, it's quite obvious that the lead and rhythm guitar tracks were recorded separately and then dubbed-in, but that previously-mentioned video for the song only shows that one "mystery" guitarist playing a gorgeous white Gibson Les Paul Custom with black binding and trim. I'm also very curious as to who that lone guitarist featured in the video for "Impulsive" is. I'm guessing, ad this is PURE speculation, that it might actually have been HE who played the almost-equally brilliant rhythm-guitar track. Any help in providing me, and the world of audiophiles in general, a comprehensive listing of the ACTUAL names of ALL the featured studio musicians on "Impulsive", as well as the name of the guitarist shown playing that white Les Paul in the video, would be greatly appreciated. SOMEONE out there knows, surely, the truth, and I'm imploring y'all to come forth with this information, finally.Steeldan33 (talk) 11:44, 23 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Your instinct is probably correct, since according to Allmusic.com: Joe Walsh did play on that album. That is not to say that he played on that song, but he's the only slide guitarist noted in the credits, so it is almost certainly him. As far as the other musicians, it would be hard to say since the credit list does not break down the musicians by song, but the album itself featured, besides Joe Walsh, some other well-known session musicians whose names I recognize, including Abraham Laboriel Sr. on bass and Michael Landau and Steve Lukather on guitar, though there is no telling from Allmusic which tracts they played on (Abraham Laboriel is one of three bassists listed there, for example). If you can get a copy of the album itself, it may have liner notes which break down which musicians played on which songs, some albums do that. --Jayron32 15:40, 23 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Ahem! The Wikipedia article Wilson Phillips (album) actually contains the answer the OP wanted. (Saved me from having to go downstairs and check my copy, which would have been my next step.)(And now I have, the sleeve notes do indeed contain very comprehensive details of the musicians involved.) {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} 90.197.66.33 (talk) 23:55, 23 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Movies about technical topics which actually get technical

Most movies about technical topics gloss over that topic completely to make it accessible to a broader audience. Thus, A Beautiful Mind barely mentions the math, Searching for Bobby Fischer doesn't even show the board so you can see it, and Contact spends almost no time on ham radio details. So, are there any films which do cover the supposed topic in detail ? StuRat (talk) 21:25, 23 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Apollo 13? Clarityfiend (talk) 22:47, 23 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Documentary films. Non-fiction is much more popular in print, for good reasons. It is difficult to quickly review or easily index a film. However, for complex topics that would bore casual readers, film can be a superior medium. The best documentaries are often entertaining, too. 99.2.148.119 (talk) 23:20, 23 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Half remembered science fiction book or short story....

I was wondering if anyone could help me ID a book or short story I half remember reading. The basic premise was that the action took place on a slowly rotating planet. The indigenous people there were therefore nomadic, always staying on the sunny side. The story followed a tribe of people whose calling in life was to live along the eastern edge of daylight and build the homes and infrastructure that made up their civilization. Once they built a town, they'd move east to newly exposed land and start over. I think (And this is the part that I can't quite remember) that the story's drama revolved around a woman who grew up in this tribe, but was marrying into a family that lived on the far western edge of civilization where everything was being broken down and salvaged before it was crushed by glaciers.

Is this ringing any bells for anyone? I don't even remember if this was a book or a short story. If it was a short story than it probably appeared in either Analog or Asimov's magazines, because that's what I read, but I can't find it.

Thanks. APL (talk) 23:33, 23 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]