Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Airlines

Air Algérie's logo

Hello. I'm having a dispute with an IP regarding the logo to be used in the article. Can you please drop some lines with your thoughts at the article's talk page? Thanks.--Jetstreamer ^Talk 10:29, 7 July 2014 (UTC)

Article assessment for B-class

Can a regular contributor to this sub-project have a crack at some of the 7,400 odd articles requiring B-class assessment (mostly airlines and biography) ((I have done most of the rest))--Petebutt (talk) 11:19, 16 July 2014 (UTC)

Air India Express and Star Alliance

FYI. There is an ongoing discussion here as to whether AI's affiliate with Star Alliance makes AIX also part of the alliance. — LeoFrank  ^Talk 17:06, 16 July 2014 (UTC)

I have the same question regarding Scoot division of Singapore Airlines.175.110.222.144 (talk) 16:21, 17 July 2014 (UTC)

And what about Air India regional? 175.110.222.144 (talk) 14:53, 5 August 2014 (UTC)

Air india Fleet

The notes in the notes section can be made simpler, dont know why people need to add stuff like "being replaced with 7xx or Axxx"" also why need to add sold to Etihad for the 77L does it matter who the aircraft was sold to? in prose its mentionable but not in table. 175.110.222.144 (talk) 14:53, 5 August 2014 (UTC)

Templating airline fleet tables

I've been working on a template (series) for airline fleet tables. This would standardize fleet display and simplify markup in articles. I have made a page to compare the current and proposed styles for the tables. I wanted to allow discussion here before adding it to many articles, and will leave this discussion up for about a week to got responses. (Also, the project template page and style guide will need to be updated.):Jay8g [V•T•E] 16:27, 21 July 2014 (UTC)

I cannot find the page where the discussion is taking place.--Jetstreamer ^Talk 18:07, 21 July 2014 (UTC)

This is the intended page for discussion. If there is somewhere else you think this should be discussed, where is that?:Jay8g [V•T•E] 19:43, 21 July 2014 (UTC)

Far to complex most articles dont need this level of detail, and I am still not sure why seating arrangement doesnt come under not a travel guide? MilborneOne (talk) 18:21, 21 July 2014 (UTC)

I'm commenting here as there seems not to be other place to do so. To me, the proposed templates are far too complex to edit and have many details that are not needed. I concur with MilborneOne in that much of the informaton is unnecesary, starting with the seating layout. Actually, I find much of the information in the current simpler form somewhat overdressed. Think about the IPs that are constantly modifying fleet tables accross all airline articles. We, the members of the project, will spend much more time fixing their edits if we proceed with this.--Jetstreamer ^Talk 18:49, 21 July 2014 (UTC)

This template is modeled after the tables already in airline articles...:Jay8g [V•T•E] 19:43, 21 July 2014 (UTC)

Too much unnecessary information, like Milbourne said even seating should not be in the current table nor the number of passenger or weight of cargo.175.110.222.144 (talk) 14:51, 4 August 2014 (UTC)

TWA 800 passenger list table

There is no such list in the article, was it removed by poll or vandalism? all other crash articles have these lists. 175.110.222.144 (talk) 14:54, 4 August 2014 (UTC)

Do you mean a list of every passenger on the plane? Because I don't think that's needed. Both the TWA 800 article and another one I looked at, ValuJet Flight 592, have a list of notable passengers and I think that's reasonable. The ValuJet article also has a table breaking down the nationalities of the passengers which I think is good, and I notice that there's no similar table on the TWA article. Is that what you're referring to? -- Hawaiian717 (talk) 16:43, 4 August 2014 (UTC)

I have added a list as per other accident articles, of countries and numbers it needs to be checked and a reliable reference found. MilborneOne (talk) 16:50, 4 August 2014 (UTC)

Checking history of the article it appears there was never any such information added there, one person had put in entire list of crew and passengers by name though years ago. I tried to make the notable passengers names and information into prose as well as put in some facts regarding crew with reference but all of it was reverted, have restored the crew part again since its relevant, also according to a CNN article there were thirteen nationalities onboard, cannot find any list showing people by their citizenship.175.110.222.144 (talk) 14:48, 5 August 2014 (UTC)

I made the table from info at [1] but I added the citation needed with the hope somebody had a better list, the washington post list has a lot of unknowns. MilborneOne (talk) 19:03, 5 August 2014 (UTC)

Flynas edit vandalism?

Is turning Jeddah-London-Gatwick to appear as Jeddah-London Gatwick vandalism? is correcting Calicut to Kozhikode per article title vandalism? or is it vanadalism to create a redirect i.e [Kozhikode|Calicut] so it appears as Calicut but redirects to Kozikode vandalism when a direct link to article exists under the correct title, in the Gatwick case the redirect is purely to make it appear right and not like three destinations, I mean should we start referring to Chennai as Madras again? Also Flynas rebranded and overhauled while still in operation so they are not flying to India for the first time, yes first time under the new branding, atleast thats what it seems to be, but its irelevant to the other points deemed vandalism. 175.110.222.144 (talk) 15:15, 7 August 2014 (UTC)

I never said it was vandalism. I explained at your talk page that, related to the start of services to India, you keep adding statements that are not included in the source provided.--Jetstreamer ^Talk 15:20, 7 August 2014 (UTC)

This is again a WP:VERIFY issue from your part. Your talk page is full of warnings related to this.--Jetstreamer ^Talk 15:23, 7 August 2014 (UTC)

What does RV Vandalism mean then in edit summary note? Ok if the airlins insists its flying there for the first time then let it be, but what about the Calicut / Kozhikode issue according to wikipedia policy, the carrier may call it Calicut but ita Kozhikode at wiki, if the common name rule applies should title name be changed back to Calicut? 175.110.222.144 (talk) 15:29, 7 August 2014 (UTC)

Warnings to ban people for minor edits, is taking things to the extreme, someone needs to look into this attitude practised by you. 175.110.222.144 (talk) 15:31, 7 August 2014 (UTC)

Check out your talk page again. I used a disruptive editing template, not a vandalism one. The following two diffs also show your conflict with the verifiability policy: [2], [3]. As I already told you once, do not edit Wikipedia if you do not agree with the policies.--Jetstreamer ^Talk 15:33, 7 August 2014 (UTC)

Is this the edit summary you refer to? It wasn't your edit the one that was reverted there. Indeed, that was vandalism.--Jetstreamer ^Talk 15:37, 7 August 2014 (UTC)

What am I doing thats disruptive? do we non wiki affiliated editors have no right to edit what we feel is right while reamining with in wiki policiies because some wiki editor has started hounding that article? whats your problem with Jeddah-London-Gatwick being changed to Jeddah-London Gatwick??? Why do you keep changing Kozhikode to Calicut even as [Kozhikode|Calicut]? isnt the article at wiki title Kozhokode, are you being disprusptive on purpose? I am following wiki policy here you are flouting it, will you refer to Mumbai as Bombay and Chennai as Madras in future aricles if the airline press release mentions those names instead? how abour Burma being listed as Myanmar only wiki calls it Burma, maybe that needs to be changed, answer these questions why are you avoiding them, if Caliicut which is Kozhokode at wiki and worldwide is being written as Calicut which is considered its common use name then why not change the article title back to Calicut? 175.110.222.144 (talk) 15:38, 8 August 2014 (UTC)