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October 29

Trying to verify/source grammy nominations

Hi there. I'm going to re-write the article on Ric Fierabracci because it (a) has no inline citations and (b) is terrible.

I keep seeing mention of him being nominated for Grammy awards, but I've tried and tried and just can't find any sources for which awards, in which years.

Any help would be appreciated. The Squirrel Conspiracy (talk) 04:02, 29 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

His site claims "The debut CD from 'Hemispheres' was nominated for a Grammy in the 51st Grammy's as 'Best Contemporary Jazz Album' and Ric has also been nominated twice in the category of 'best Instrumental Jazz Solo'. However, the CD's not listed in the 51st Awards nominations, and his alleged solos aren't there or in the 35th, 36th, 37th, 38th, 39th, 40th, 41st, 42nd, 43rd, 44th, 45th, 46th, (can't find the 47th), 48th, 49th, 50th, 52nd, 53rd, 54th, 55th, 56th or 57th. (Somebody get that guy a fire extinguisher: his pants may be on fire.) Clarityfiend (talk) 23:39, 29 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you. That's what I was thinking too. I have to wonder then whether I can trust any of the third party sources that refer to him as Grammy-nominated. The Squirrel Conspiracy (talk) 00:17, 30 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

The players rights

What is "the players rights" in

?— Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.141.243.30 (talk • contribs)

The document is linked at the bottom of Bandy Playing Rules, in the "references" section. You're allowed to read it yourself. --Jayron 32 11:44, 29 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

October 30

Opera roles

Which opera role is considered the most difficult of all? 2601:646:8E01:9089:89AF:166C:3B18:EC6C (talk) 04:15, 30 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Most difficult in what respect? Considered by whom? Since this is a matter of opinion I suggest you Google "most difficult roles in opera" and that will provide you with various opinions.--Shantavira|^{feed me} 08:50, 30 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

One anecdotal bit of information I saw on youtube which can be generalized to some degree: Kirsten Flagstad was commenting on playing Brünnhilde, essentially saying that you don't just start out with that role - it's something you have to work up to, through years of voice training and practice. I would think the same could be said for many classic opera roles. But that doesn't say Brünnhilde is the most difficult, only that it's more difficult than singing nursery rhymes in grade school, for example. ←Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} carrots→ 13:41, 30 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Well, of course you'd mention her. ---Sluzzelin talk 13:56, 30 October 2015 (UTC) [reply]

Ja! Here's the youtube thing I was talking about.[1] Her spoken comments start about 30 seconds in. ←Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} carrots→ 14:45, 30 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

BLP - Estella Warren's DOB

Hello helpful Wikipedian! I'm hoping to verify Estella Warren's birthdate. The source used in the article cites the following source:

"Estella Warren." Contemporary Theatre, Film and Television. Vol. 69. Gale, 2006. Gale Biography In Context. Web. May 26, 2011.

I think this is it at Google Books, but I don't see a full birthdate in the preview, and frankly the birth year is hard to read. (I think it's 1978)

Much appreciated if you can help. Thanks! Cyphoidbomb (talk) 15:28, 30 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

You may also want to ask at WP:REX, which is a good place to get help if you need access to a reference where you know what you need, but can't access it. --Jayron 32 15:55, 30 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

If she was born in 1970 as the article currently claims (but the talk page greatly disputes) she would not have been eligible to be on a junior's team in 1995. Rmhermen (talk) 15:58, 30 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Gale Biography in Context, which you cite, states that she was born on December 23, 1978. I also found an article in the Globe & Mail from August 3, 2000, which states that she was 21 and also gives her age as 17 in 1996. The article would be completely fictional if, as our article currently says, she were born in 1970. John M Baker (talk) 02:40, 31 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks all. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 16:41, 1 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I have edited our article to give her correct birthdate and to explain why some people mistakenly believe she was born in 1970. John M Baker (talk) 22:31, 1 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

October 31

Key signaturing a piece in the Mixolydian mode

How would you key signature Old Joe Clark??

In modern American interpretations of music theory, a key signature of 2 sharps is taken as indicating the key of D major. It is NOT interpreted as being in a variant of the A major scale where G is natural. A modern American would expect the song to use the A major key signature and have natural signs be placed on the G's. Any thoughts on this or on any piece that's in the Mixolydian mode being arranged according to a particular rule?? Georgia guy (talk) 15:33, 31 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

The widespread convention is to use no accidentals. Sources: this thread, my own experience, and the fact that the LilyPond source code in the article actually has a key of a \mixolydian and LilyPond interprets that as 2 sharps. -- BenRG (talk) 18:07, 31 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

The key signature article says that the key signature with 2 sharps belongs to the keys of D major and B minor. The A major article says that the key signature for A major has 3 sharps; it does not say that the usual key signature has 3 sharps but that there's a variant of the A major scale with only 2 sharps in its key signature. Georgia guy (talk) 18:31, 31 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Well... the key signature article could mention that 2 sharps is also used for A mixolydian, G lydian, etc., though it doesn't. A mixolydian can be seen as a variant of A major since they share 6 of 7 notes, but it can also be seen as a variant of D major since they share all 7 notes. There is a case to be made for 3 sharps, of course, and I can imagine an alternate universe where that was the convention, but actually 2 sharps is the convention. -- BenRG (talk) 21:01, 31 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

The 2-sharp key signature is the convention for the keys of D major and B minor. Georgia guy (talk) 21:05, 31 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, but as BenRG says, the 2-sharp signature is also the convention for A Mixolydian, G Lydian, E Dorian, B Aeolian (as well as B minor), F♯ Phrygian, and C♯ Locrian.—Jerome Kohl (talk) 22:43, 31 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Furthermore, the A Mixolydian scale is no more a variant of A major than A minor is a variant of A major. They are parallel modes in that they share the same tonic, but that does not mean they share the same key signature. Double sharp (talk) 14:53, 3 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

A major and A minor both have the same tonic note, A. But they have different tonic triads. A major, which has 3 sharps in its key signature, has the tonic chord A-C♯-E. A minor, in contrast, has an empty key signature, and its tonic chord is A-C-E. Georgia guy (talk) 15:29, 3 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

The notes in the tonic triad are not all the notes in the scale! A Mixolydian differs from A major in the seventh scale degree. For example, it has a minor dominant triad, instead of a major dominant triad like in A major. G♮ is diatonic to A Mixolydian, but G♯ is instead diatonic to A major. Double sharp (talk) 02:14, 4 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

wrong result on google search

when i search movie's title " Mukhtiar Chadha " on google (https://www.google.co.in/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=mukhtiar+chadha) then it's giving wrong information about director's name. google is howing " Diljit Dosanjh " while director's name is " Director Gifty " which is accurate on wiki article : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mukhtiar_Chadha. So please tell me how to fix this.Waiting for the early reply.

Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by Vish.mystic (talk • contribs) 16:06, 31 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

In the Google results, click on the word "Feedback" under that box that shows the information about the film. Then tell Google that the info is wrong. Dismas|^(talk) 16:07, 31 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

The kokomo

As referenced in No Particular Place to Go, So Many Roads and Asbury Park 4th of July. ("so we parked way out on the kokamo", "Down where the sun don't shine//Underneath the Kokomo" and "... I saw her parked with lover boy out on the Kokomo".)

Not the Kokomo (Island) mentioned in Kokomo (song) by the Beach Boys.

Is it the same as in Hot Time in the Town of Berlin ("We're going to start a row, show 'em how// Paint the town down in Kokomo")? Are they all referencing Louis Armstrong Ko Ko Mo (I Love You So)?

All the best: Rich Farmbrough, 23:07, 31 October 2015 (UTC).[reply]

According to SDMB, (a) The Springsteen track is a direct reference to the Chuck Berry track, (b) the Chuck Berry reference is to the Kokomo River (where courting couples were wont to repair), and hence to Kokomo, Indiana and Ma-Ko-Ko-Mo. Tevildo (talk) 23:51, 31 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Many thanks, I searched for Kokomo River, to no avail, (although I found the Wildcat Creek article . it doesn't mention that name - yet). All the best: Rich Farmbrough, 01:02, 1 November 2015 (UTC).[reply]

It does, however, mention the tributary Kokomo Creek. All the best: Rich Farmbrough, 01:11, 1 November 2015 (UTC).[reply]

November 1

Patriots possible 16-0

This page is not a forum for fan debates

NFL fans, what do you all think? Do you guys think this Patriots team can go 16-0? These boys are 7-0 after beating Miami 36-7. --74.130.133.1 (talk) 04:45, 1 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

What are possible losses for this team? --74.130.133.1 (talk) 04:46, 1 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

They have 9 games remaining, any of which is a possible loss. ←Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} carrots→ 18:06, 3 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Outburst

In the Wesley Willis song 'Outburst', what message is he trying to portray in the song? --Doeskmaesk (talk) 09:20, 1 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

This article discusses Wesley Willis's songwriting in general terms, and that may help you understand what he was after in his songs. --Jayron 32 02:18, 3 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

A couple of jaspers...

Resolved

I didn't know whether to post this on the Entertainment or Language desk - please feel free to move. I've been watching Annie Oakley on the TV and when the one of the goodies is telling the sherrif how he was attacked by the baddies, sometimes he'll say something like "A couple of jaspers jumped in the canyon". I've also read it in Jonas Ward's "Buchanan" series - "Couple of jaspers rode into town one Monday morning." Why jaspers in this context? Thanks! --TrogWoolley (talk) 16:40, 1 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

According to various unreliable sources (here and here, for example), a "jasper" (in the Old West) was "someone who is awkward or not very intelligent - a rustic, simpleton, or naive hick". Tevildo (talk) 17:20, 1 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Etymonline, too, has 'Used from 1896 for "a rustic simpleton."'. The name and its cognates Casper, Gaspar etc. may all derive from the same Mesopotamian word for the person in charge of royal treasures (see also Casper, Jasper_(name), Biblical Magi#Names) which, in turn, have taken eponymous meanings of their own in several languages. For example Gaspard de la nuit, but also the Kasperle character in German languages, who can be similar to the Hanswurst. In my dialect, if someone (usually someone older) refers to a man as a "Chaschper", the implication is usually one of a buffoon, a person who cannot be taken seriously. So I'm wondering whether there's a connection there to the Jaspers of the American frontier. ---Sluzzelin talk 18:04, 1 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

The definition in the Dictionary of American Regional English is "a fellow, guy, esp. a rustic, stranger, or one who behaves unacceptably. often derog". Deor (talk) 19:40, 1 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I knew a jasper who locked himself in an ice cream freezer to see the future. His name was Jasper. Certainly some dumbening going on there. InedibleHulk (talk) 22:09, November 1, 2015 (UTC)

"And the next thing you know your son is playing for money in a pinch back suit and listening to some big out of town jasper here to talk about horse race gamblin'." Here it seems to mean a sharper rather than a fool. —Tamfang (talk) 00:47, 2 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Jared Padalecki and Chad Michael Murray

Have Jared Padalecki and Chad Michael Murray worked together before?31.54.250.172 (talk) 16:50, 1 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

See Jared Padalecki and Chad Michael Murray. Before their current roles in Supernatural, they appeared together in Gilmore Girls. Tevildo (talk) 17:32, 1 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

FYI, you can use IMDB's advanced search for this sort of thing. Dismas|^(talk) 22:11, 1 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Or the Oracle of Bacon. They were in House of Wax together. InedibleHulk (talk) 22:22, November 1, 2015 (UTC)

November 2

Summerland: Home media

Is the TV series Summerland released on DVD?31.54.250.172 (talk) 18:57, 2 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Type the words "Summerland TV series DVD" into Google and you'll answer your own question. --Jayron 32 19:07, 2 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I would look it up on Google by typing in "Summerland TV series on DVD" and you should find your answer and if not look on different shopping websites.Stevenricci (talk) 05:31, 3 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

here are some websites that have it http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0400037/

http://www.dvdinthebox.com/summerland-complete-seasons-12-dvds-boxset_p16911.html http://www.hishows.com/product_609.html Stevenricci (talk) 05:57, 3 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Gilmore Girls - Two questions: Abortion and similar shows

1. Was the word 'Abortion' mentioned in the TV series Gilmore Girls?31.54.250.172 (talk) 19:05, 2 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

2. Is Gilmore Girls similar to or does it show similarities to other shows like - 7th Heaven, Beverly Hills, 90210, Summerland, Dawson's Creek, Party of Five, The Carrie Diaries, Everwood, The O.C., One Tree Hill and Opposite Sex.31.54.250.172 (talk) 19:05, 2 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

1.Here is a list of transcripts of every episode of Gilmore Girls: [2] You can peruse these at your leisure to look for the words you want to find.

2. It is hard to quantify "similarlities". The best I can offer in terms of a reference is to look at the entry at IMDB. There's a section titled "People who liked this also liked... " Which is likely to generate shows that people found similar enough for our purposes. --Jayron 32 19:10, 2 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

This Google search on the site Jayron cites finds "abortion" mentioned in transcripts of another show, but not in any Gilmore Girls transcripts. (It also produces sponsored links whose headlines ask if I'm interested in having an abortion, which would be unlikely as I'm neither pregnant nor, for that matter, female.) --70.49.170.168 (talk) 20:23, 2 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

The word 'Abortion' was not mentioned in Gilmore girls. Especially, in the 1st season. Christopher Hayden's father, Straub, suggested that Lorelai Gilmore have an abortion when she got pregnant at age 16, but her mother, Emily, refused. Christopher's parents appeared in the season 1 episode 'Christopher Returns' but when his father argues, scolds and insults Lorelai for getting pregnant at such a young age, the word 'abortion' was not mentioned. I wonder why.5.81.235.234 (talk) 23:30, 2 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Why was 'abortion' not mentioned in the series? Especially, in the 1st season?5.81.235.234 (talk) 16:21, 3 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

November 3

Public domain...but copyrighted on Web?

Under the Digital Millennium Copyright Act of 1998, all works from 1922 or older, including movies, are supposed to be in public domain. Yet I've tried to watch several movies from that period online, and they have been censored from YouTube because of the copyright scare, nor are they available on Internet Archive.

Why is their online availability such an issue if they're supposed to be public domain? Theskinnytypist (talk) 01:10, 3 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Your "scare" link pointed to a nonexistent section. I have corrected it to what I presume you meant. --70.49.170.168 (talk) 07:17, 3 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

It is not only films, but public domain music and other content as well. After cases like Viacom International Inc. v. YouTube, Inc. and other such copyright infringement lawsuits, YouTube implemented this system called Content ID which is suppose to automatically detect copyright violations. But it is poor in verifying if the content is actually copyrighted or really in the public domain. An example can be found here, where someone used the ContentID system to "claim" the content of NASA public domain videos. The executive at YouTube/Google seem to be content that the Content ID works in most cases (if a YouTube user disagrees with a decision by Content ID, the can file an appeal), and seem to have no plans to have each and every video actually checked by a human. And as a result of these lawsuits, I think they have developed the habit to "shoot [take down the video] first, ask questions later". Zzyzx11 (talk) 10:17, 3 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

hall and oates article

the list of musicians doesnt cover mike mccarty , who played bass on the hall oates album. he is credited on the album cover , but not in the wiki article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.115.79.46 (talk) 16:08, 3 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

You can add him yourself. --Viennese Waltz 16:16, 3 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

November 4

Who?

Who is Weber and Neustadter by the way? Chandelia16 (talk) 09:20, 17 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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