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Follow-up to Request to guide me how can I approve my article

How can I approve my article, please guide me ASAP.(Aureliojohn (talk) 11:44, 28 December 2019 (UTC))

@Aureliojohn: Did you really mean "approve", or do you actually mean "improve"? I suspect the latter. If so, sometimes no amount of editing can make an article meet our notability criteria for companies, other than inserting the right type of independent non-marketing references. Have you now done that? If so, perhaps you could link to the three best sources that you feel genuinely support Wikipedia's definition of 'Notability', and we can look through them for you. Personally, I think it looks like it fits with our description we call "WP:TOOSOON". Wikipedia cannot be used to promote or market new companies - there are millions of them in the world. You simply have to wait until there is evidence that third parties have actually taken note of and have written about that company or product in depth. No amount of LinkedIn links or short business notes are going to achieve that. Sorry if this isn't what you wanted to hear. Nick Moyes (talk) 11:54, 28 December 2019 (UTC)

User:Nick Moyes - You are being optimistic in thinking that the OP means "improve". They want their draft approved to list it in article space. Other than that, you have tried to answer. Robert McClenon (talk) 20:09, 28 December 2019 (UTC)

@Nick Moyes:I have created one article to my sandbox behave of phemex they are working on bitcoin, and crptocurrency on worldwide. the company based in Singapore and I have worked on this platform last six months and now I'm still research and working on this platform. Please check my sandbox and let me know how to improve my article once I will improve my article after my article is also approve for the Wikipedia.(Aureliojohn (talk) 12:13, 28 December 2019 (UTC))

Your draft was already discussed four days ago here, and the TOOSOON consensus won't change ASAP, cf. NORUSH. –84.46.52.63 (talk) 12:37, 28 December 2019 (UTC)

(edit conflict) @Aureliojohn: That was the page I looked at (i.e. User:Aureliojohn/sandbox - it now redirects to Draft:Phemex, and that was the page I was referring to in my answer above. So, please fully re-read all the way through our notability criteria for companies and tell us which three sources you think best support Wikipedia's definition of 'Notability'. I will then try to re-assess the significance of each of those sources and tell you why I don't feel it is sufficient to meet our critieria. As far as I can tell, you have added nothing significant since Robert McClenon declined it as failing notability. So without hearing more from you, or seeing better sources added, I am at a loss to help you further. A failure to meet Notability Criteria means that, no matter how hard you try, you will never get an article about that subject on Wikipedia at this moment in time. How we might view it in the future, is another matter entirely. So, if a major national newspaper writes about this company, we start to get what we need. Your main sources are all insider financial reports simply regurgitating and repeating the identical text of a press release, which is what insider news outlets do. This is not sufficient. Nick Moyes (talk) 12:39, 28 December 2019 (UTC)

@Nick Moyes:. Thank you for your time, I really appreciated for your guideline.(Aureliojohn (talk) 20:16, 28 December 2019 (UTC))

You wrote "I have worked on this platform last six months and now I'm still research and working on this platform." That clearly indicates a paid relationship. You must declare that on your User page. David notMD (talk) 13:10, 28 December 2019 (UTC)

User:Aureliojohn - See general sanctions for cryptocurrencies. Many editors want to use Wikipedia to advertise cryptocurrencies, and other uses of blockchains, and exchanges for trading cryptocurrency. We have had so many editors trying to use Wikipedia to advertise cryptocurrencies that we have had to implement special rules to deal with editors who are promoting cryptocurrencies, especially editors who have a conflict of interest. Some editors are topic-banned from cryptocurrencies, or even blocked. We have had a problem with editors who try to advertise cryptocurrencies. If you cannot establish notability, your draft will not be accepted. Robert McClenon (talk) 20:09, 28 December 2019 (UTC)

@David NotMD:. I mean, I'm working on this platform for the last six months, I'm not employed for this company.(Aureliojohn (talk) 20:16, 28 December 2019 (UTC))

@Robert McClenon:. I totally agree with you. Wikipedia is not an advertisement platform, But how can I improve my draft and sources for Wikipedia guidelines.(Aureliojohn (talk) 20:21, 28 December 2019 (UTC))

User:Aureliojohn - We have tried to explain to you in English. It appears that you want to use Wikipedia to provide information about Phemex. That is advertising. You are asking us how to improve your draft to be a better advertisement. Do you need to have that explained to you in another language, since you don't seem to understand the explanation in English? Editors who are tendentious about trying to use Wikipedia to advertise cryptocurrencies can be topic-banned. Robert McClenon (talk) 20:32, 28 December 2019 (UTC)

@Robert McClenon:. Sorry for that Robert. I agree with your point forget this topic. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Aureliojohn (talk • contribs) 20:37, 28 December 2019 (UTC)

@Aureliojohn: Practical general suggestion, figure out how {{cite web|url=… |title=… |author=… |date=… |work=… |publisher=[[…]] |accessdate=…}} works in references depending on a consistent date format per article. Raw HTML references, missing authors, or no wikilink for allegedly reliable sources are red flags, and about as bad as missing edit summaries tagged as mobile IP contributions. –84.46.52.55 (talk) 05:41, 29 December 2019 (UTC)

@Aureliojohn: You said I'm working on this platform for the last six months, I'm not employed for this company. Please explain what you mean by working on this platform? Does it mean that you write programming code, or develop some other material, that is used by the exchange? Or do you mean that you are just a user, trading on it?

Please stop putting parentheses around your signature – the timestamp should be at the very end of your post. See the last two paragraphs of WP:SIGPROB and everyone else's signatures here and elsewhere. —[AlanM1(talk)]— 00:34, 30 December 2019 (UTC)

Wrestler information

Plz write the in wrestling section comprising of the wrestler information regarding his/her moves, theme songs, managers etc. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2401:4900:C07:42B9:E906:620C:4228:1C20 (talk) 14:09, 28 December 2019 (UTC)

Hello, anonymous user. Wikipedia is created by volunteers who work on what they choose to. If you want to see a particular thing in some articles, you either need to get somebody interested in creating it, or do it yourself. If you want something added to a particular article, you may have some success in asking on the talk page of that article (you will at least be addressing your request to people who have some interest in that article.) Another possibility is to find a relevant WikiProject (such as WP:WikiProject Professional wrestling) and ask there. But in general, simply asking on a general page such as this for somebody willing to put in the work to provide what you want, is not usually very productive. --ColinFine (talk) 10:33, 29 December 2019 (UTC)

In particular, the OP may want to see WP:INWRESTLING and the Village Pump discussion referred to in the note at the end of the first sentence therein. It was decided by consensus in 2018 to deprecate the use of "In wrestling" sections in wrestler articles. Deor (talk) 15:36, 29 December 2019 (UTC)

Added an entry, but I need assistance for English Wikipedia

Hello everybody, Hello to the community,

I'm coming from Germany and I try to include my knowledge into German Wikipedia for years. But with the English one I have some difficulties in understanding the procedure maybe... Since 24th of October 2019 there is a draft of the entry "Sayonara Player", which is also available in two other languages: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sayonara_Player

Can anybody give me some assistance on what I need to do, that the entry gets reviewed and published? My target is to include it here https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_audio_player_software where only players with an own entry are accepted.

The reason is, that I was searching for a good Linux audio player since eight years. Finally I found one this summer, but it's not well-known and I think Wikipedia could be a solution to change this situation.

Thanks to everybody for attention and have a good start in 2020, Dominic2105 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dominic2105 (talk • contribs) 14:44, 28 December 2019 (UTC)

Hi Dominic2105 and welcome to the Teahouse! I took a look at your draft and it appears that the draft was declined. It's not the best feeling in the world, so I'll try to explain why it happened. So far, you've cited four sources, which is good. However, these sources are not independant and reliable. For example, the first source and second sources is the player's own website, and although it would be appropriate to provide a link in an external links section, it isn't suitable to demonstrate notability because it is not an independant source. I can try to explain this further if you're still confused. As for the differences between the English and the German Wikipedia, I'm not too familiar with that, so maybe another editor's input would be helpful here. Clovermoss (talk) 17:28, 28 December 2019 (UTC)

The enwiki notability is simpler than the dewiki Relevanz. On dewiki you can get away with no (or only primary) sources, here almost all claims need reliable and independent references. –84.46.52.55 (talk) 06:12, 29 December 2019 (UTC)

Follow-up to Understood and thank you for your time, but I have just created a brand new page on Radmila and attempted to publish. Did I do something incorrectly or do I need to revisit the first attempt?

Hi Captain Eek,

The discussion was archived regarding Radmila Lolly, so I am following up here. I am not clear how Radmila does not qualify as notable with the amount of coverage I included in my article draft. As far as possibly requiring some years before becoming notable, Radmila has been publicly active since 2012. I have also left out things that Wikipedia doesn't approve of (e.g. "dating a celebrity"), but said things also prove that public celebrities/influencers attend Radmila's events and that she has other known affiliates with Wikipedia pages of their own. Please, please help me as I have remained within Wikipedia's guidelines for citing/giving sources.

Carlden10, Howdy hello and welcome to the Teahouse! The main issue here is that at the moment, the community has determined (based on this discussion) that Lolly is not currently notable, i.e. they are not sufficiently written about and cannot be covered on Wikipedia. Realistically, some years may need to pass before this person does enough to make them notable to be on Wikipedia. At this time, I do not recommend you work on Lolly further. Creating a new article from scratch is one of the hardest thing to do on Wikipedia. You are likely best served by working on editing existing articles to get a feel for how Wikipedia works. Please feel free to ask any other questions you have about Lolly, or Wikipedia in general. Smooth sailing, Captain Eek Edits Ho Cap'n!⚓ 23:14, 20 December 2019 (UTC)

— Preceding unsigned comment added by Carlden10 (talk • contribs)

Hello, Carlden10, and welcome back to the Teahouse. In Draft:Radmila Lolly, the first 10 sources cited are either press releases or interviews, which do not help to establish notability at all. The article in The Spectator looks useful, but at the end says PR Agency: SGG Public Relations indicating that it is directly based on a press release, and so is not independent coverage and does not count toward notability. The Women Fitness article is again an interview. So is the article from VOCE SPETTACOLO. The article from NSCMagazine again ends with PR Agency: SGG Public Relations and so is of no value for establishing notability. I cannot asses the article from Óyeme Magazine as it is not in English, but even if it is a high-class source, one independent reliable source is not enough. At least three are needed, and high-quality sources are particularly needed to overcome the determination made at the AfD discussion. If you want to proceed (which I advise against) drop all the interviews and Press releases and look for Independent and reliable sources that each discuss her in detail. DES ^(talk)_{DESiegel Contribs} 19:10, 28 December 2019 (UTC)

Hello, Carlden10. To add to what DES has said, it might be helpful to explain that Wikipedia is basically not interested in anything that the subject has said about themselves, or their associates have said about them, whether in their own publications, or in interviews or press releases. An article must be almost completely based on what people who have no connection with the subject have chosed to publish about the subject, in reliable places. If you can few or no such sources, then it is impossible to write an acceptable article about the subject, so the notability criterion tries to stop you spending your time, and others' time, in doing something which is impossible. --ColinFine (talk) 10:40, 29 December 2019 (UTC)

Edit count code?

I'd like to show my user edit count as a number somewhere in my Infobox. Is there a way to code the edit count so that the number appears and changes dynamically/automatically without me having to manually update the edit count all the time? If yes, can code lines be shared? — CYAce01 (talk) 01:17, 29 December 2019 (UTC)

Hello, CYAce01, and welcome to the Teahouse. There is {{User contrib}} but thsat still requires manual updates. There is {{admin stats}} but that is only authorized for admins and account creators. This is because this requires a bot to make a daily edit for every user who uses this template, and the load would be too great for wider usage, or so I have been told. A template cannot generally auto-update -- ones that seem to generally link to or transclude a page which is itself auto updated by a bot. DES ^(talk)_{DESiegel Contribs} 03:07, 29 December 2019 (UTC)

Thanks for the response, DESiegel. I was hoping the counter would be updated by itself so I wouldn't have to edit so much. But, with the templates, it sounds like I'd be getting credit for the edit EVERY time and possibly double dipping for the edit count update. I'm trying for "fair" and worthy edits, so I'll leave the edit counter number updater off my page. — CYAce01 (talk) 03:56, 29 December 2019 (UTC)

CYAce01, For an active editor to update, say, once a month, is hardly "double dipping", which is why the template text says "more than" not an exact number. I use adminstats, but that provides info on admin actions not just edits, which is perhaps more important for users to know in interacting with an admin. You could just keep the service badge on your user page and update after you have crossed a milestone -- that soon becomes not so often as milestones come farther apart (says I at 51k and counting) But it is entirely up to you. DES ^(talk)_{DESiegel Contribs} 04:21, 29 December 2019 (UTC)

(ec) @CYAce01: Nothing wrong with wanting some positive feedback on your work here, but may I suggest you have a look at WP:EDITCOUNTITIS? Most people who have edit-count userboxes on their user pages update them occasionally (I do it about once a month as part of a checklist of other monthly work). As you pointed out above, quality is definitely more important than quantity. Some of my single edits take literally hours. You, I, and 99.99_% of editors will never catch up to the guys with 6-7 figure counts. —[AlanM1(talk)]— 04:22, 29 December 2019 (UTC)

Thanks for the advice. It's well appreciated! — CYAce01 (talk) 04:38, 29 December 2019 (UTC)

As you have already done, most editors use the Userbox Service badges as a means of milestoning their editing. David notMD (talk) 12:45, 29 December 2019 (UTC)

RE: Jim Rogers (California politician)

I just revamped the article Jim Rogers (California politician), it apparently had BLP violations so its reliable sources that covered him in depth were removed as was his referenced notability. Nevertheless I found more sources and expanded the article dramatically. Who do I let know we should have a do over on the discussion for deleting the page or merging or whatever comes of it? I added a comment to the AfD but I don't know who's in charge, so my question is that who is in charge of that sort of thing around here?Ndołkah☆ (talk) 04:39, 29 December 2019 (UTC)

There's nobody in charge per se, you just need to wait until an uninvolved admin or uninvolved editor comes along to WP:CLOSE the AfD. If you want to mention in the AfD that you've made changes that you feel have addressed the reason it has been nominated for deletion, you can; but the AfD still needs to run its course. -- Marchjuly (talk) 05:04, 29 December 2019 (UTC)

I see and can I contact those that gave their opinions already to inform them of the updates?Ndołkah☆ (talk) 05:19, 29 December 2019 (UTC)

You can WP:PING them in any new post you make at the AfD if you want, but they might already be watching the discussion or the article and will see the changes you’ve made. I guess you can post a polite note about the changes on their user talk page, but nothing demanding like “you need to reassess your AFD comment” or anything like that. Whether they respond or how they respond, however, is up to them. Whomever decides to close the AfD may decide that enough improvement has been made to at least warrant WP:RELISTing it so that further discussion can take place. — Marchjuly (talk) 05:46, 29 December 2019 (UTC)

Thankies! and how do you ping someone?Ndołkah☆ (talk) 06:42, 29 December 2019 (UTC)

Hello, Ndołkah. Please see Help:Notifications. Here is a pro tip for you: When you have such a question, type "WP:keyword" into the search box, using a plausible keyword. In this case, WP:PING leads to to that help page about pinging. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 06:51, 29 December 2019 (UTC)

Ndołkah It is thoroughly appropriate to mention changes made to an article in an open AfD. I have done so several times. It is also perfectly appropriate to ping those who have commented previously, provided that you notify all of them. You should be aware that AfD discussions are not normally closed until they have been open for at least 7 full days (24 x 7 hours), so this one has a couple of days to go, at least, and sometimes they are relisted for an additional week or more. None of the conditions for a faster than usual close seem to apply in this case. You might want to look at WP:HEY as well. Thanks for your edits on this article. DES ^(talk)_{DESiegel Contribs} 09:37, 29 December 2019 (UTC)

Thankies for all the info!Ndołkah☆ (talk) 21:17, 29 December 2019 (UTC)

Draft:Ross Kolby

Dear Teahouse contributors and editors. I am working on an article about a Norwegian artist and author: Draft:Ross Kolby. I have worked on it to try to meet the standards and rules of Wikipedia. Could you please help me to see if something is missing or if I may improve this article more while it is waiting for being evaluated? Best, Constituto (talk) 13:09, 29 December 2019 (UTC)

Constituto, I took a quick look at your draft. There are a lot of references there, but the first few I looked at weren't ideal - some very brief mentions, a directory listing, his own YouTube channel, and the websites of galleries displaying his work (which would not really be considered, since they are promoting him). The draft was declined previously because the sources did not demonstrate the subject's notability per WP:NARTIST or WP:GNG. When it comes to notability, you only need a handful of sources, but they need to be high-quality - independent, secondary and reliable sources, giving the subject significant coverage. I'd also ask you whether you have a connection with the subject - one of the photographs is of him meeting the king, which you uploaded as your own work - that suggests to me that you know him? If so, you need to read COI carefully, and make the necessary declarations. GirthSummit _(blether) 14:25, 29 December 2019 (UTC)

Girth Summit, Thank you so much for looking at my draft. I am not connected to the subject personally, I just find his art interesting. I got inspired by the article about another Norwegian artist i like: Sverre Malling. I looked at it and its references and gave it a shot. If I succeed with my article I'd like to write more articles about contemporary artists, but I see that finding the right references proves to be a challenge. I am new to this, so I might choose the wrong sources? I thought the articles from the National Broadcaster NRK would be good. Would a National Broadcaster be an independent and reliable source? I uploaded the photo of the artist and the King as my own work because I do own it. I was given the photo from the photographer, free to use in any way. He is an amateur photographer, whereas all the other photos I found from that event was from newspapers and were copyrighted. They could naturally not be uploaded to Commons. But perhaps I should have uploaded the photo in another category? I could remove the text about the exhibitons and the gallery references, if you would suggest that? I put the film from YouTube as a reference merely to say the film exists, not as a indipendent source. Should I remove it, perhaps? I am grateful for your good advices in this to me new process. Best, Constituto (talk) 05:22, 30 December 2019 (UTC)

Constituto, the NRK source is good in terms of independence and reliability - if just doesn't tell us much about the subject. It tells us quite a bit about what one of his paintings, and mentions a couple of other ones, but gives us almost nothing about the man himself. Having said that though, reading it through again it would appear that you could make a case for his passing WP:NARTIST based on criterion 4(d) - is his painting of the crowns on permanent display with the crown jewels? And are his paintings of the various Norwegian kings on permanent display in a major gallery? If so, that might be a strong case for notability. With regard to the photograph, ideally the person who created it should have uploaded it, using their own account, since they are the copyright holder. Cheers GirthSummit _(blether) 09:57, 30 December 2019 (UTC)

Girth Summit, Thank you for your remarks. I see. The inline citations I hoped would tell us more about the subject are the interviews with the newspapers Budstikka (reference No. 2) and Varden (reference No. 4). Yes, his painting of the crowns is on permanent display in the statal Crown Regalia Museum by the Nidaros Cathedral in Trondheim. https://www.nidarosdomen.no/en/attractions/riksregaliene. I found no statement about this at their website, but it is there as the NRK article states. His portraits of the three WWII kings are on permanent dispaly at the Armed Forces Museum in Oslo, which is one of Norway's oldest and most visited museums. They in fact state that they exhibit the paintings: http://forsvaretsmuseer.no/Hjemmefrontmuseet/Portretter-av-Frigjoeringskongene. This text simply says that you may se the three portraits at the main exhibiton. I could contact the photographer and ask him if he might upload the portrait on Commons himself. Again thank you for your advice. Best, Constituto (talk) 10:22, 30 December 2019 (UTC)

Constituto, OK - I'm becoming convinced of his notability. If I may suggest some changes to the article that would help a reviewer:

• The draft doesn't have a lead section, summarising the content. Write one, being sure to include the basic facts that make him notable (work in the permanent collections of significant galleries).
• Cut extraneous information. You don't need a paragraph explaining who Vera Lynn is, for example - the wikilink to her article will provide all the information the reader needs about her.
• Cut any puffery - there's not much, but for example you don't need to describe the Albert Hall as an 'iconic venue'.
• We don't use honorifics. Harald V is just Harald V, not His Majesty Harald V. (We're not singling out Norway for disrespect - take a look at Elizabeth II!)
• Cut any unsourced assertions - for example, the list of people he has painted portraits of is entirely unsourced.
• The sourcing for his writing isn't great. I'm no kind of expert on Norwegian literary sources, but from a quick look I'm seeing his profile on his publisher's website, there's what appears to be a directory listing for his book, a review on what appears to be a fan site (I see it's 'powered by WordPress', which suggests it's more of a blog than an RS). Reviews in reliably published independent sources would really help beef this section up.

If you do all that, the article will appear less promotional, and it will be clear to a reviewer why he is notable - it should then be a much easier review. Cheers GirthSummit _(blether) 11:46, 30 December 2019 (UTC)

Girth Summit, Splendid! Thank you again so much for your very useful advices. I will carry out all your suggestions. Re. the sources for his writing I put the inline citations merely to prove that the novels indeed were published. So not to claim a book was published without any proof. Of reviews I found one of "Flammer" ("Flames") in Nordlys, a large Norwegian newspaper, and put it in. Do you suggest that I remove the publisher proof that the books were indeed published? Wouldn't an editor then question if I claim something uncertain? Best, Constituto (talk) 12:50, 30 December 2019 (UTC)

Constituto, part of writing an article is about deciding what is significant enough to include, and what might be better to leave out. If someone has written a book which was reviewed in a national newspaper, then it's definitely worth mentioning, and the newspaper review itself is the perfect source. If, on the other hand, someone wrote a book that nobody ever reviewed, and the only evidence we can find for its existence is the publisher's website, it's sometimes better to leave that out if it is other work that they are really known for. GirthSummit _(blether) 13:08, 30 December 2019 (UTC)

Girth Summit, I fully understand. That is a sound guideline for wtiting articles. Thanks! I see if I can find other reviews, and delete what cannot be supperted by one. Would you be interested in reviewing my article once I am done? I understand it might take months awaiting an editor to come by my draft and then wishing to review it. Best, Constituto (talk) 13:45, 30 December 2019 (UTC)

Constituto, I tend not to review articles 'on demand' in response to TeaHouse requests - it's kind of like encouraging people to skip the queue. However, if you make the changes I've suggested, it should be quite an easy review, and so more likely to be picked up early. Cheers GirthSummit _(blether) 13:54, 30 December 2019 (UTC)

Girth Summit, Of course, I fully understand. I'll continue on the article with your suggestions. My reference No. 2 has jumped down a line from the number. Do you know how to make it read like the other references? Thank you again for your time and good advice. And Happy New Year! Best,Constituto (talk) 14:28, 30 December 2019 (UTC)

I would recommend that you expand the references from the current bare URLs, preferably by filling in relevant parameters in templates such as {{cite web}}. --David Biddulph (talk) 17:01, 30 December 2019 (UTC)

Is there a way to remove the arrow and the square that are placed when inserting an external link?

Apologies if this is obvious. Thanks, Thatoneweirdwikier Say hi 13:18, 29 December 2019 (UTC)

Thatoneweirdwikier The symbol is there for a reason - it helps to differentiate between wikilinks and external links, to make it clear to the reader that by following the link, they will be leaving Wikipedia. Why do you want to circumvent that? GirthSummit _(blether) 14:08, 29 December 2019 (UTC)

Girth Summit I felt that the logo looks out-of-place in articles. Thanks, Thatoneweirdwikier Say hi 14:30, 29 December 2019 (UTC)

Thatoneweirdwikier, generally speaking, it shouldn't be seen in articles except in the External Links and References sections, since we shouldn't usually be using external links within the body of the text (see WP:EL for more on this). Is there a particular article you have in mind? GirthSummit _(blether) 14:43, 29 December 2019 (UTC)

Girth Summit, mainly Ram Dass. Thanks, Thatoneweirdwikier Say hi 14:51, 29 December 2019 (UTC)

Thatoneweirdwikier, Ah, OK. As I said there, I'd suggest putting those into the externa links section as a clearer way to present them, rather than linking to them from the lead of the article. Cheers GirthSummit _(blether) 14:53, 29 December 2019 (UTC)

Girth Summit, thanks for your time! Thanks, Thatoneweirdwikier Say hi 14:54, 29 December 2019 (UTC)

Are derogatory nicknames acceptable on Wikipedia

I was reading the Wikipedia page of Rahul Gandhi (major Indian politician), and noticed a small sentence added right before the “Early Life” section, stating that he is sometimes referred to as “pappu” (a term used for immature people in Hindi). It has been reverted already (twice, since someone added it twice), but since it is used only by his political opponents (and anyone who dislikes him), I want to know if this information is suitable for Wikipedia (considering that no one does the same to Narendra Modi who is sometimes (though not as often) called a “feku” for not fulfilling promises made in elections)... RedBulbBlueBlood9911 (talk) 15:02, 29 December 2019 (UTC)

Hello, RedBulbBlueBlood9911, and welcome to the Teahouse. In general, no, derogatory nicknames are not used on Wikipedia. If it can be demonstrated through independent reliable sources that a person is very often known by such a nickname, it might be mentioned, but only with a direct citation to a source, and I would think only in quotes. This would be rather unusual. I don't think we do that even on the pages of such widely abhorred figures as Hitler or Stalin. DES ^(talk)_{DESiegel Contribs} 15:34, 29 December 2019 (UTC)

It has been removed several times from the article, so it seems like several other editors agree with you. There are cases of derogatory nicknames being included for historical figures, where the nicknames are considered to be important and very well-sourced (in Reginald Dyer for instance) but I can't think of any instance where an article about a living person has anything like that. I'm sure there are exceptions, but it would need to be discussed on the article talk page first. --bonadea contributions talk 15:48, 29 December 2019 (UTC)

I had to go and find List of nicknames of presidents of the United States. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 16:56, 29 December 2019 (UTC)

See Talk:Rahul Gandhi#"Pappu" edits for further discussion of this, please and please let us avoid any further edit-warring on this. DES ^(talk)_{DESiegel Contribs} 17:09, 29 December 2019 (UTC)

Even in the list of nicknames that GGS mentioned, the bar for inclusion is set very high, requiring "common usage". As an example, U.S. President Trump is called variations of "the orange one", usually (but not always) by comedians, and fairly often, but it is not in that list. —[AlanM1(talk)]— 01:58, 30 December 2019 (UTC)

Date format-ish

Just a quick question that I am not sure where to ask. Sometimes an article have the use dmy/mdy tag on top of it which will automatically makes dates in citation to be dmy/mdy per Help:Citation Style 1#Auto-formatting citation template dates. I recently edited a mdy article, but since I usually use dmy, I just use dmy in citation because I know the script will change them for me. Is that an acceptable practice or should I change my approach? Lulusword (talk) 16:42, 29 December 2019 (UTC)

Hello, Lulusword, and welcome to the Teahosue. As long as the displayed forms are consistent, the wiki-text doesn't matter that much, but using an inconsistent form in the citations may tempt you or a later editor to copy or imitate a date in non-citation prose, where the template will have no effect. It is probably better practice to use the form specified for the article, but if you forget, no huge issue. If you wanted to change what is used, start a discussion on the article talk page, but that is rarely a good idea. DES ^(talk)_{DESiegel Contribs} 17:19, 29 December 2019 (UTC)

Thank you for the quick reply. I guess I will practice using the default format in citing references later since it will be benefecial for future editors. :) Lulusword (talk) 17:46, 29 December 2019 (UTC)

@DESiegel: Good point, David. Now if only we could get the editor's cite tool to use the appropriate format in the access-date and on the rare occasion it correctly finds the publication date. —[AlanM1(talk)]— 01:30, 30 December 2019 (UTC)

AlanM1 I'd settle for getting it not to stick tje site name into the title, and to use the actual site name, not the site domain, for website=. Lots of luck with that. Still the MOS does permit the archive-date to be in a format different from everything else ("Wherefore is this date different from all other dates...?") DES ^(talk)_{DESiegel Contribs} 01:55, 30 December 2019 (UTC)

@DESiegel: Note, though, that the change to the cite templates to respect the {{Use ??? dates}} also formats the access-date values, which seems at odds with the MoS' allowing them to be YMD. Of course, there have been changes in the MoS, too, and I'm having trouble remembering what to do any more. —[AlanM1(talk)]— 02:05, 30 December 2019 (UTC)

Tool to remove duplicate links in an article?

I am looking for a tool that could help in removing duplicate links in an article. Often I come across an article where well meaning editors have linked the same word multiple times. I can imagine that in a very long article it might be nice to have a word linked more than once.

Has anyone seen such a tool?

--Akrasia25 (talk) 19:33, 29 December 2019 (UTC)

Hello, Akrasia25, welcome to the Teahouse. We certainly have a tool to identify and highlight duplicate links, though you would have to manually remove them. Would that suffice? If so, I'll go and dig out a link for you. Nick Moyes (talk) 22:18, 29 December 2019 (UTC)

Here we are. Try installing the script by following the instructions at this page: User:Evad37/duplinks-alt. Season's greetings, Nick Moyes (talk) 22:28, 29 December 2019 (UTC)

Thanks! That sure was a fast response Nick. I appreciate it and I will try out the script. I can imagine that there has to be some manual removal to avoid mistakes--Akrasia25 (talk) 23:11, 29 December 2019 (UTC)

Adding Information

How do I add my brother and I to the Notable Alumni tab on Archbishop Ryan High School page? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.80.184.16 (talk) 20:46, 29 December 2019 (UTC)

Hello, IP user. If either of you is notable in the way Wikipedia uses that word (see the page linked for more detail), then Wikipedia could have an article about the one who is notable (or articles about both if you both are). In that case, an article could be written about you (but not by you - see autobiography for why not - and once the article exists, your name could be added to the list. Most people are not notable in Wikipedia's sense, and do not belong on such a list. --ColinFine (talk) 20:51, 29 December 2019 (UTC)

In short, notice that the Archbishop Ryan High School#Notable alumni list are all blue links to Wikipedia articles. Unless there is a Wikipedia article about you (or one is likely to soon be created based on what Colin said), I'm afraid it would not be appropriate to include you in that list. —[AlanM1(talk)]— 01:36, 30 December 2019 (UTC)

How to be recognized for donating?

Hi everyone, I have just donated $20,000 to the wikimedia foundation, and I was disappointed at the lack of recognition for my generosity. Was there a mistake? Just wondering how we can get this resolved. Thanks! - Chris — Preceding unsigned comment added by Chrissods (talk • contribs) 00:51, 30 December 2019 (UTC)

@Chrissods: Hi, welcome to the Teahouse. Thanks for your generosity. The Teahouse volunteers don't work with donations and don't have access to donor information. Donors are anonymous by default for privacy reasons but can give permission to be named per foundation:Donor privacy policy/en#Sharing Donor Information. https://wikimediafoundation.org/support/benefactors/ has an email address. You should qualify as a patron donor. PrimeHunter (talk) 01:08, 30 December 2019 (UTC)

Chrissods, as this forum is to answer editor's questions about how to edit Wikipedia, let me add this: Your status as a donor has no bearing whatsoever on your editing. Some editors donate, some don't. Either way, it's totally irrelevant to your or my editing activity. John from Idegon (talk) 01:34, 30 December 2019 (UTC)

Gosh, John, was that comment really necessary? Nick Moyes (talk) 02:02, 30 December 2019 (UTC)

Hi John from Idegon, thank you for your remark. I’d hoped to come here and be welcomed and thanked for my donation, but I’m glad that you seem to enjoy finding an unsubtle way to denigrate me and my contribution to the project. Take care now, and rest assured that your snide attitude is not lost on me. - Chris Chrissods (talk) 01:48, 30 December 2019 (UTC)

(edit conflict) Hello, Chrissods, and welcome to the Teahouse. Wow! That's an amazing donation, and far more than I earn in a whole year. So, thank you so, so much. I'm afraid none of us here can speak for the Wikimedia Foundation, as English Wikipedia is run wholly by volunteers, and none of us receive any income whatsoever for our efforts. As you no doubt know, the WMF uses your generous donations, not only to fund the immense costs of hosting this amazing Encyclopaedia, but also in a huge program of education and outreach across the globe, as weĺl as the development of the software behind all our wikis, and research into its effectiveness. I would assume that any delay in acknowledging such a donation as you have made would be due to office closures over the Christmas/New Year period. I have genuinely no idea how the WMF office operates, but I would hope you might be willing to give them another week to respond to you. If you get no reply by then, and are concerned that your donation might not have reached its destination, please email: donate@wikimedia.org. You can check you've donated to the correct address by checking the details here Once again, thank you for supporting Wikimedia, and all its projects. Regards from the UK. Nick Moyes (talk) 01:50, 30 December 2019 (UTC)

Welcome to the Teahouse, Chrissods. I will take you at your word, and therefore I thank you for your generous donation to the Wikimedia Foundation (WMF). Please realize that the WMF operates hundreds of sites in hundreds of languages with a variety of different objectives. English Wikipedia is the largest of many WMF sites, but English Wikipedia editors and administrators, who are volunteers, have nothing at all to do with the fundraising and have no way at all to verify who is a financial donor and who isn't. Frankly, we do not care at all about financial donations when interacting with other editors. Here on English Wikipedia, we value your volunteer editorial contributions to this encyclopedia, because our goal 24 hours a day and seven days a week is to improve this encyclopedia, and we can easily verify whether or not you are doing so. It is fairly common that we deal with people who want an article changed in one way or another because they claim that they have donated money to the WMF. We must reject any such requests based on money because the policies and guidelines of this encyclopedia always come first. I am sorry that you were offended by an earlier comment. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 02:13, 30 December 2019 (UTC)

I have rescinded my donation and explained to the foundation in detail why that is. Chrissods (talk) 12:58, 30 December 2019 (UTC)

I am glad to hear that. Thank you! --bonadea contributions talk 13:02, 30 December 2019 (UTC)

I really don't see what was so mean about John's comment. He was just stating the truth- we don't handle donations here, and they have no bearing on your activities here. 331dot (talk) 13:03, 30 December 2019 (UTC)

• I find it curious that this user has done nothing on Wikipedia other than post about their $20,000 donation. Is there any independent way to know if this was given(and taken back)? 331dot (talk) 13:03, 30 December 2019 (UTC)

  As I understand it, 331dot if a person donates, and does not check the box allowing public sharing of donation info, there is no way for anyone outside the WMF office that handles donations to verify the donation (well maybe the tax authorities are told). And of course, even if we knew that Person X donated $10,000, we can't confirm that Person X edits as User:X without violating the privacy policy. Even if User:X openly claims to be Person X there is no easy and reliable way to confirm that. And In any case it shouldn't matter. Even if the claim is false, that is not a reason to block or treat edits differently, and if the claim is true that is certainly not a reason to give edits priority or special handling. So the only real answer is "Thank you, can we help you with editing?" to anyone who says "I donated $NNN." I'm sorry that this person took the response above as "snide" when I don't think it was so intended. But Misunderstandings do happen. DES ^(talk)_{DESiegel Contribs} 17:28, 30 December 2019 (UTC)

• How does one go about "recinding" a donation? I've ran a 501(c)3 for many years and that has never come up. John from Idegon (talk) 20:28, 30 December 2019 (UTC)

If this is real then it may refer to donate:FAQ#What is your refund policy? PrimeHunter (talk) 21:30, 30 December 2019 (UTC)

Merging Talk Pages

I recently merged Swaminarayan Sampraday to Swaminarayan (spiritual tradition) as outlined in WP:MERGE. While I reconciled the talk page tags from the source page, do I need to also copy the source talk page (here) posts into the destination talk page (here)? Thank you. Moksha88 (talk) 03:06, 30 December 2019 (UTC)

I would place on the talk page of the target (destination) article a link to the talk page of the source article, with a note that relevant discussion might be found there. They won't be significantly harder to find than old archived discussions with no merge. I would not advise copying old talk page discussions onto the new talk page or its archive pages (if any). If there are really significant discussion (major RfCs or agreements on significant points, say) you could include a separate note with a link right to the relevant discussion section, on an archive page if it has been archived. As long as there is a way for readers to get to all the old talk discussions without too much trouble, I would think that enough. DES ^(talk)_{DESiegel Contribs} 17:34, 30 December 2019 (UTC)

DES Excellent, thank you. Moksha88 (talk) 04:02, 31 December 2019 (UTC)

Just a little typo I found on the main section of an electronics article. There's no 'edit source' button. How do I fix it? :)

Hi there, Just wondering about a little typo I found on the main section of an electronics article. It's a lovely article. There's no 'edit source' link to fix the typo - though there're 'edit source' links next to subsections. How do I fix a typo in the main article? Thanks heaps :)  :) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Researchgatematerials (talk • contribs) 03:28, 30 December 2019 (UTC)

On a computer there is an "edit source" link at the very top above the title. Not sure about on a phone though! --Bduke (talk) 04:27, 30 December 2019 (UTC)

Hi Researchgatematerials and welcome to the Teahouse! The edit button (if you're using a web browser instead of the app to edit) looks kind of like a pencil. It's at the top of an article and is the last button on the right. If you need clarification or help with other questions about editing Wikipedia, feel free to come here again and ask. Clovermoss (talk) 23:11, 30 December 2019 (UTC)

Idea..

Ever thought about putting out donation bins? It would be very convenient and I’m sure people would give change at least. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2600:1702:3760:E920:70E2:3B09:D9D4:609E (talk) 04:16, 30 December 2019 (UTC)

Hello and welcome to the Teahouse. Donations are handled by the Wikimedia Foundation that operates the computers Wikipedia is on, and not us editors here. You are welcome to communicate any suggestions you have to them, though if you mean physical donation collection, that would likely be a massive operation for a worldwide site to conduct. 331dot (talk) 10:13, 30 December 2019 (UTC)

Userspace templates

Not sure where else would be the appropriate place to ask this so I guess here? When leaving a warning on a user talk page, such as {{uw-unsourced}}, I know that piping the article title in will mention the article. I’ve seen on some talk pages, however, that the specific diff is also linked. How do you link to a specific article revision with these templates? TIA, Alex (talk) 04:47, 30 December 2019 (UTC)

@Alexanderlee: AFAIK, this is only possible for messages left by Huggle. All Huggle messages can be found at Template:Huggle and its subpages. Victor Schmidt mobil (talk) 06:54, 30 December 2019 (UTC)

Draft:Hawaiian Lullaby

Aloha! Need help moving Draft:Hawaiian Lullaby into main space by experienced editors. Once done I can upload image. Thanks! Allanbcool (talk) 05:24, 30 December 2019 (UTC)

Welcome back to the Teahouse, Allanbcool. Your draft needs a "critical reception" section, which should summarize reviews of the album published in reliable sources. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 05:31, 30 December 2019 (UTC)

Adding a date of death

I (and it seems, several others) have tried to add death information for Scott Sowers. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scott_Sowers

Multiple online sources have announced his death, e.g. imdb.com, and https://fcnp.com/2018/06/13/our-man-in-arlington-276/

My edits and others have been reverted. Can someone advise what we're doing wrong? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bob baseline (talk • contribs) 05:35, 30 December 2019 (UTC)

His (possible) death has been discussed on his article's Talk page. The theory there is that it was an April Fool's Day hoax. The source you gave is a church newsletter, probably not what we would normally regard as a great source. IMDB is also notoriously unreliable. Is there a genuinely reliable source out there? Anyway, since it's already under discussion there, I suggest you take your thoughts to the Talk page. HiLo48 (talk) 05:50, 30 December 2019 (UTC)

I did some digging, documented at Talk:Scott Sowers. —[AlanM1(talk)]— 08:28, 30 December 2019 (UTC)

Draft:Chances (Backstreet Boys song) submission rejection assistance

I have recently come across this draft a few months ago when it was declined three times by two different reviewers due to the same editor resubmitting the article without thoroughly following advice. In the following months since I found the draft, I have added several reliable secondary sources establishing the notability of the song, while also adding primary sources to support these statements. The draft was then rejected due to the lack of secondary sources and for the same reasons as the previously declined submissions, despite adding several more reliable secondary sources.

I have since followed the reviewer's advice to discuss the state of the draft over at the main article's talk page two weeks ago. However, no other editor had responded over the two weeks, and I have not been able to gain consensus about whether contents of the draft should be merged as suggested by the reviewer, or if any other editors are willing to assist in the editing process. I am also unsure about the approximate number of reliable secondary sources that would be acceptable for the draft to pass submission, as information in most sources are combined with the announcement of the DNA World Tour or only solely mentioned during a television performance of said song.

Any help will be greatly appreciated. — Angryjoe1111 (talk) 06:48, 30 December 2019 (UTC)

Angryjoe1111: in your opinion, which four of the 20 references in the draft do most to establish that the subject is notable, by linking to reliable published independent sources with in-depth discussion of the subject? Maproom (talk) 09:50, 30 December 2019 (UTC)

Maproom: Thank you for responding. I'm not sure if these two references establish detailed notability of the song itself, but both [1] and [2] exclusively mention the song's publicity through televised performances. Billboard is a reliable reference for the publication of the subject, as it documents music events and charts. Even though the song may be overshadowed by the announcement of their world tour and album release, these four secondary sources briefly detail the song's release.[3][4][5][6] This source [7] only spends half of the interview about the song itself; however the content found in the article is extensive and thoroughly used within the draft. Although barely any of these sources individually discuss the subject in full due to the announcement of the album's release date and world tour overshadowing it, the seven secondary sources listed should indicate that the song is somewhat notable, in addition to charting on multiple music charts as seen in the draft's Charts section. Thank you again for taking the time to respond. — Angryjoe1111 (talk) 12:17, 30 December 2019 (UTC)

Strange RGraph edits - should these be undone?

Hello, can someone help me understand if the recent edits by users 86.30.29.225 and Richard heyes to RGraph should be undone or how to treat them? Richard heyes stated COI on the user talk page. 86.30.29.225 has only made edits to RGraph so far. Actually, I created the RGraph page and it is not even reviewed yet if I am not mistaken, and in the current state after those multiple edits by these users it looks less neutral than in the state I made it... Please advise what should be done in such cases. Thank you. Avbgok (talk) 09:57, 30 December 2019 (UTC)

In my personal opinion, the edits by Richard heyes are not improvements to the article. They are promotional, and give excessive detail in the form of a code sample. Richard heyes, as the creator of the subject software, has an undeclared conflict of interest. The edits by the IP editor are constructive copyedits to the content added by Richard heyes. Maproom (talk) 10:35, 30 December 2019 (UTC)

Appears you created the article (no longer a draft), and editor Richard heyes, who claims to be the creator of RGraph, has added lots of content to the article, doubling the length. Best place to discuss whether those additions are appropriate is at Talk page of article. David notMD (talk) 11:19, 30 December 2019 (UTC)

Hi Avbgok. Any editor can undo another editor's edit(s) if they believe they aren't improvements or otherwise not in accordance with relevant policies and guidelines. If that's the case here, then you can undo the edits. However, if you decide to do that, you should leave a clearly worded edit summary explaining why also probably further clarify on the article's talk page. The other accounts involved might be not as familiar with Wikipedia editing as you are and not really know about things like WP:DR and WP:BRD, etc. so try to avoid WP:BITE. It also might help to mention in your edit summary that they can discuss things on the article's talk page. Even though there does appear to be a COI at play here with at least one of the other accounts, just reverting everything on that basis alone is not really a good thing to do; so, if you can improve on the content in any way without undoing it all, then that might be a better thing to do. If you want to get more editors involved who are experienced in editing articles about software to assess the article, then try asking at the WikiProjects listed on the article's talk page. -- Marchjuly (talk) 11:49, 30 December 2019 (UTC)

Thanks for the opinions. I think then I should not revert all the edits just like that but instead I will write about this situation on the talk page for other editors' attention and probably will look into the essence of what was added on those edits later by myself as well. Thank you all very much. Avbgok (talk) 13:52, 30 December 2019 (UTC)

Hi, I'll remove the sample code, the supported chart types and the big logo picture and add a detail box like the on the D3 page. How's that? Richard heyes

Added an entry, but I need assistance for English Wikipedia (Second draft, enhanced article sources in references)

Hello everybody,

thanks for the assistance regarding the entry "Added an entry, but I need assistance for English Wikipedia". The draft has not been approved due to missing reliable independent sources in the references. I added four new ones and linked to two other Wikipedia languages entries. Could this new draft please be checked?

Have a good start into 2020, Dominic2105 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A02:908:1A74:4360:C1B8:8A45:92CC:BE46 (talk) 11:54, 30 December 2019 (UTC)

Courtesy link: this is about Draft:Sayonara Player.   Maproom (talk) 12:08, 30 December 2019 (UTC)

Hi IP 2A02:908:1A74:4360:C1B8:8A45:92CC:BE46. Wikipedia articles are not considered reliable sources for any purpose per WP:WPNOTRS and this includes articles found on other language Wikipedias as well; so, linking to those two non-English articles aren't really relevant at all to determining whether the subject you're trying to create an article about is something considered to be Wikipedia notable. What matters is whether Wikipedia:Notability (software) is being met.

Now, the other sources you added might be, but that's something you might want to try asking about at WT:COMP or WT:SOFTWARE since that's where you're likely going to find editors familiar with these types of articles and with what types of sources are generally considered reliable.

Finally, please don't move/remove any AfD decline templates or any comments left by an AfC reviewer. I'm sure you meant well, but its best to leave them at the top of the page so that any future reviewers are aware of them and can easily find them. Everything will be cleaned up as needed if the draft is eventually accepted and all the templates/comments will be removed when that happens. -- Marchjuly (talk) 12:13, 30 December 2019 (UTC)

When you have resolved the problems, the way to resubmit for further review is with the blue "Resubmit" button in the feedback box on the draft. --David Biddulph (talk) 12:35, 30 December 2019 (UTC)

Thank you very much for the "Resubmit" button help. So much text on the pages and English is not my native language ;-) I've updated everything and clicked the button. Let's see what the future brings. Thanks to you, David and Marchjuly. Dominic2105 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A02:908:1A74:4360:C1B8:8A45:92CC:BE46 (talk) 13:27, 30 December 2019 (UTC)

Question about editing

So, our organization was noticing there was a lot of outdated information in wikipedia about our industry, and we tried to provide an update to the information (not promotional!!), just basic 101 type of definitions, and trends, but it shows that our IP or userid got blocked/blacklisted. Why would that happen? Nothing we tried to edit was offensive, or promotional. We even provided links to resources that are publicly available in industry publications. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 198.199.134.100 (talk) 16:52, 30 December 2019 (UTC)

Hello, IP user. The only recent edit from this IP address was this, which has not been reverted. Judging from your comments, you were editing from a logged-in account, but you haven't given us any clue to this. My guess is that the account was blocked because you chose a name which implied you were editing on behalf of an organisation - if so, there will be a message on your user talk page telling you what you need to do. In fact, if you have been blocked for any reason, there should be a message on your user talk page explaining why.

But unless you tell us the username, or some of the articles you edited, it is unlikely that anybody here is going to be able to help you. --ColinFine (talk) 17:04, 30 December 2019 (UTC)

Nimäävil

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

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Inta kärvi hikkalaamataakat tuosinaalum, itu pala partikarä urrartakkuotu empataal, atäät törppatasku mummar koortirttuk kaartappartta atuo artippartääk korkäkarääp passuo valuvaama purital tuovääppartukisatu: Massikarä varajasuttal, usavukarä pihatinitittuvappartuttuvatasku hamampaartukarä uruvaakkutal töövai virakkutal. 172.58.238.238 (talk) 17:54, 30 December 2019 (UTC)

This is the help page for the English language Wikipedia. You can perhaps find a Wikipedia for your language here: [8]. RudolfRed (talk) 18:12, 30 December 2019 (UTC)

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

New to Wikipedia and already pending deletion

Hello everyone, I became a monthly donor to Wikipedia and decided to set up a user page. As best as I could tell, it is a page that is intended to describe the user, but perhaps that is incorrect? It is not clear to me how the user page needs to be setup. I am not writing an article, just the user page. Any guidance would be greatly appreciated. — Preceding unsigned comment added by BeowulfTheDionysian (talk • contribs) 17:55, 30 December 2019 (UTC)

You'll find advice at WP:User pages. --David Biddulph (talk) 18:04, 30 December 2019 (UTC)

I would add that- while thanks for your donation- you don't need to donate to be a Wikipedia user, and donations have no bearing on your Wikipedia activities. All fundraising matters are handled by the Wikimedia Foundation, which is not usually involved with day to day operations here on Wikipedia. 331dot (talk) 18:12, 30 December 2019 (UTC)

Your User page and you are not one.If it comes to deletion of your current User page content, you can start over. And even if you decide to leave your User page empty, you will still be able to contribute to articles and comment on Talk pages. David notMD (talk) 19:38, 30 December 2019 (UTC)

Hi BeowulfTheDionysian and welcome to the Teahouse. You are welcome to put some information about yourself on your own user page, but it should not look like an article, so one change you can make is to change it to first person. Also, it should not advertise in any way. Best wishes for your future editing. Dbfirs 19:49, 30 December 2019 (UTC)

BeowulfTheDionysian, you are not allowed to remove a deletion template from a page you created. As your efforts are clearly in good faith, I removed it and blanked your userpage. Feel free to start over, but please consider making contributions to the encyclopedia (in other words, edit). A userpage is an unimportant detail. John from Idegon (talk) 19:58, 30 December 2019 (UTC)

Thank you John from Idegon, it has been a clumsy introduction for me. I just started becoming a monthly donor and thought I would become active in the community, but I see I have so much to learn. I'll give it some thought and try again at a later date. BeowulfTheDionysian (talk) 20:04, 30 December 2019 (UTC)

BeowulfTheDionysian, our training programs leave much to be desired. As en.wiki is entirely volunteer, that won't likely improve until an individual comes along that wants to fix that. One thing we do have is WP:TWA, an interactive learning tool formatted as a video game. Please try it before giving up. I doubt we share many common interests, so I'd be unable to help you with research, but you can always leave me or any other editor a note on their talk page if you have technical problems. Also, you may want to check out the various Wikiprojects for one that covers topics you are interested in. John from Idegon (talk) 20:21, 30 December 2019 (UTC)

Templates

How do I get templates Tram1203 (talk) 22:28, 30 December 2019 (UTC)

Hi Tram1203 and welcome to the Teahouse! Can you clarify what you would like to know about templates? There are many different type of templates used on Wikipedia, so it'd be easier for me to answer your question if I know what you need help with. Clovermoss (talk) 23:04, 30 December 2019 (UTC)

Error uploading a new version of image

Hello! I've been adding the logos of the Spanish football clubs that were missing and made a mistake - my logos were .jpgs with white background. I wasn't sensible enough to read the guidelines first, but I am willing to correct them to the .pngs with transparent background. However, when I tried to upload a new correct version, I've got this error: "File extension ".jpg" does not match the detected MIME type of the file (image/png)". It's my first time dealing with images, so I have no clue what's going on. I've read guidelines on images now but I can't find anything about this error there. Can please someone explain what am I doing wrong and how to upload a new logo? Would also be grateful for a link to read about it. Thank you! Less Unless (talk) 23:39, 30 December 2019 (UTC)

Hi Less Unless. Since the previous versions of the file's are in jpeg format, the software is telling you in its own way that it's not going to replace them with a newer versions uploaded in png format. So, you should upload the png version as a new file, not an update, and then replace the jpeg files manually with the png versions in the relevant articles. You can then add Template:PNG version available to the jpeg file pages. Once the jpeg files have been removed, they will become orphaned non-free files as explained in WP:F5, and will be tagged for speedy deletion by a bot. If you uploaded the jpegs, you'll receive a notification of this on your user page that you can just ignore. If someone else uploaded the jpegs, they receive the notifications. If nobody tries to reuse the jpegs, they will be deleted after five days. -- Marchjuly (talk) 23:50, 30 December 2019 (UTC)

Is Lafée (K-pop) notable enough to write a page about?

Lafée, also known as Sherry or Lee Sae-Bom, is a K-Pop artist who appeared on season 3, episode 9 of Korean music game show I Can See Your Voice. She released a single called Love Fever on November 8, 2018 and an EP called HELLO on January 10, 2019 (can be found here and has music videos, distributed via GENIE YouTube). Her voice is notable for its distinctive huskiness, which is more noticeable in her busking videos. Before appearing on I Can See Your Voice, she was a medical resident in Los Angeles.

Benefits of adding her page: People will know what happened to Sherry on the ICSYV page if they really liked her.

My main concern is that she might not be 'notable enough' to have a page, as per Wikipedia guidelines. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Choerrybom (talk • contribs) 02:08, 31 December 2019 (UTC)

December 31

Is it possible for something on Wikipedia to be notable if they are a YouTuber with a million subscribers? CheatCodes4ever (talk) 02:23, 31 December 2019 (UTC)

@CheatCodes4ever: We've always held that subscriber numbers don't matter when it comes to notability. ミラP 02:34, 31 December 2019 (UTC)

Improving the lead section for Anthony Barr (American football)

What's up guys. Is there anything I could do to improve the lead section for Anthony Barr (American football) (or in other words, what to include)? --UCLAgirl623 ^{(Whats up!)} 03:36, 31 December 2019 (UTC)

Hi UCLAgirl623. You can find out more at MOS:LEAD, but the lead of an article should basically be a brief summary of the main points that are covered in more detail later in the body of the article. The current lead of the article doesn't seem badly written to me; if, however, you think you can improve it then go ahead. -- Marchjuly (talk) 03:53, 31 December 2019 (UTC)

My article is rejected stating that it is not notable

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Jitendra_Kumar_Soni
Draft:Jitendra Kumar Soni

Jitendra Soni is awarded with Sahitya Academy Award in the year 2016 for "Rankhaar" - Rajasthani Poetry, i have given sufficient references for the same. On the other hand he has published more then 10 books.

Mr. Soni is also awarded with Uttam Jeevan Raksha Padak, to save 8 people.

Following are the reference :

• https://pib.gov.in/newsite/PrintRelease.aspx?relid=135762
• https://www.jagranjosh.com/current-affairs/jeevan-raksha-padak-awards-2015-announced-1453717402-1
• https://www.sify.com/news/jeevan-raksha-padak-awards-2015-announced-news-national-qbznKiacgdhfb.html

Kindly guide me how to improve my article and get it approved. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dkmohta (talk • contribs) 05:13, 31 December 2019 (UTC)

Dkmohta, You need many more good sources. If you could find these sources, then why are they not in the draft? You need to find as many good references as possible, that have significant coverage of the subject, and add them to the draft. Expanding the draft with a section about the subject's life and career would also help out greatly. Captain Eek ^{Edits Ho Cap'n!}⚓ 07:20, 31 December 2019 (UTC)

@Dkmohta: I second what CaptainEek said above. But please be aware you should not put too much emphasis on “You need to find as many good references as possible” but rather concentrate on “as many good references as possible”. (Please don't consider this note an evaluation of your links – I didn't even check them. This is a general hint on referencing: quality before quantity. See Wikipedia:Reliable sources for detailed guidelines.) --CiaPan (talk) 08:00, 31 December 2019 (UTC)

Coppa vandalism

Hi, as you may know the Coppa page is out of control. I know the public outrage, and I feel it too. But for heaven's sake please lock the page, as it's getting out of control. Plz help us admin you are our only hope. Oh and happy New year 🍾 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.246.68.50 (talk) 05:34, 31 December 2019 (UTC)

Hi 98.246.68.50 and welcome to the Teahouse! I started a request for pending changes protection (which means review before edits are seen by non-logged in users) at Requests for page protection. Ultimately, it's up to an administrator to look at my report and decide what the best course of action is. Thank you for posting here, and feel free to come here again if you have any other questions about editing. Happy new year to you as well. Clovermoss (talk) 05:56, 31 December 2019 (UTC)

Hi IP 98.246.68.50. Thanks for pointing this out, but next if will make it easier for others to help you if you can provide a link or at least the exact name of the page where the problems exist.

In addition, you might want to take a look at WP:UP#NOT and WP:TPG because your user talk page is not really being used in accordance with relevant policies and guidelines; so, you may want to save that content somewhere else before the page gets blanked by an administrator or another editor. — Marchjuly (talk) 06:03, 31 December 2019 (UTC)

Article Submission

Hi,

I was trying to make a new article up and it has been rejected. Please help me understand how I can make this page up: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:MediaKind — Preceding unsigned comment added by Stevethomas4 (talk • contribs) 06:47, 31 December 2019 (UTC)

Hello, Stevethomas4. Do not try to submit advertisements posing as encyclopedia articles. Any neutral uninvolved editor would see your draft as an advertisement. Start by removing every single promotional word or phrase, and removing every single solitary bit of unreferenced content. Then, change your ugly, uninformative bare URLs to informative and correctly formatted references with titles, authors, publications, dates and so on. Check to be sure that every reference remaining is to a truly a reliable source, completely independent of MediaKind. Please comply fully with WP: PAID if it applies to you in any way. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 07:02, 31 December 2019 (UTC)

Hello, Cullen328. I have removed the unwanted text and links and submitted it again for the review. Please suggest your feedbacks: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:MediaKind