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Disregard

– OP blocked. --Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝) 12:05, 2 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Courtesy link: Draft:Bradeyland

My page for the You tuber Bradeyland was deleted! I was not trying to promote or get pople to subscribe I just wanted to inform people! Please restore it as I worked very hard! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 63.134.188.229 (talk) 18:05, 31 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hello and welcome to the Teahouse. Please understand that Wikipedia is not for merely providing information. Wikipedia summarizes what independent reliable sources say about a subject that meets Wikipedia's special definition of notability(in this case, the definition of a notable person). There are no edits to such a draft associated with the IP address you posted under, so I cannot look at your draft to tell you exactly what was wrong with it(I assume you posted while logged out). 331dot (talk) 18:23, 31 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Did you create it on another account? I'm not finding anything similar in this IP's contributions. Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝) 19:03, 31 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@331dot and Tenryuu: some cursory research suggests that the account in question is Bradey8. Moaz786 (talk to me or see what I've been doing) 19:58, 31 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

and Bradeya888, apparently. Moaz786 (talk to me or see what I've been doing) 19:59, 31 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Moaz786, thanks for the detective work. Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝) 20:12, 31 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Bradey8: @Bradeya888: Your draft hasn't been deleted, but it is being nominated for speedy deletion as it seems like you're attempting to promote this Youtuber (who seems to share a similar username with you). You may also want to look at WP:COI as writing articles about yourself is strongly discouraged. Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝) 20:14, 31 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Pinging Bradeya888 again as that was incorrectly done. --Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝) 20:15, 31 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

requesting to get volunteer for creating a page

i want to create a page on my father please guide how to that as due to COI i cannot do that.please provide me the volunteers for creating a page on my father — Preceding unsigned comment added by Alekh99 (talk • contribs) 07:10, 1 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

People are advised but not prohibited from creating an article if they have a COI. You have declared your COI on your User page: an intent to write about your father. The situation here is that you created Draft:Suresh Sharma (activist) and it has been declined three times for lack of meeting Wikipedia's definition of notability. You also want to add mention of your father into Neolamarckia cadamba, where an extensive discussion on the Talk page reached a consensus that this information is not warranted. David notMD (talk) 09:59, 1 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@David notMD i have done what Wikipedia ask initially when you start an article creation ,wiki ask is the person for whom you are creating article or page is related to you then clear if yes add about your relationship with on your user page .so i did it honestly ,believe me it does not matter for me to be on Wikipedia or not,i just tried for my father ,for his work for the environment. i completely agree with your notability issue, as he has not been given any award for his work till now, but also a significant coverage will not make any difference, that i understand now and this is the reason i have added deletion to the Draft: Suresh Sharma(activist). Also help me in deleting a talk page "granted stay " one discussion on Neolamarckia Cadamba.Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by Alekh99 (talk • contribs) 06:10, 2 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

One other question from Shadowblade08

Hi, thanks for the help everyone. Another quick question, how can you create something at the top of the page, like on some peoples user talk page, they give info, and stuff like that. All I have is a post, saying "Welcome, could you..." and then the stuff like sign with four tildes, and stuff like that. On the teahouse, you have the thing that says

" Welcome to the teahouse

A friendly place where you can ask questions

and get help with using and editing wikipedia"

How do I make that thing at the top of the page? Thanks.

Shadowblade08 (talk) 18:52, 1 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hello Shadowblade08, as a beginner, I recommend just choosing one of the templates from the list at Template:User talk pages. If you like the notices in another user's talk page, and you can figure out a way to do it, you could simply copy the code from there, paste it in your userspace and modify it as needed. As you grow more accustomed to how the wiki works, you should become able to write your own talk page headers. Best, Usedtobecool ☎️ 20:05, 1 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you so much. My only other question, is how do I make it stay at the top? Its just like another post, that anyone could do. Is there a answer to that as well? I have know idea of what happened here, but this is it:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Shadowblade08#Welcome!

Could you take a look at it, and tell me what to do? Thanks again, cause i'm really stuck.

Shadowblade08 (talk) 23:24, 1 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Shadowblade08, I've taken the liberty of moving the template up to the top of your page. Let me know if you were thinking of something else. Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝) 01:29, 2 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Nope, thats just what I wanted. Thanks!

Shadowblade08 (talk) 15:33, 2 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

How do I do this?

Hi, I've been awarded the "Original Barnstar" award from Halla6464, and i've seen that other people have a place on there talk page where they say stuff like "my tokens" (or something to that affect) So I was just wondering how I could do that, and I figured that one of you guys out there could help me. Thanks!Shadowblade08 (talk) 23:50, 1 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Shadowblade08: Welcome to Wikipedia. Check out Wikipedia:Barnstars for the list of barnstars along with the instuctions for how to give one. RudolfRed (talk) 00:06, 2 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Shadowblade08, generally people create a separate page for their Barnstars; using you as an example it may look something like User:Shadowblade08/Barnstars. If you like, you can create a new page at that link I just made. Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝) 01:28, 2 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Shadowblade08 Frankly, I am puzzled by the action by Holla6464. First, to date, you have >50 edits, but no edits to any articles. Second, Holla6464 is a new account, and the only action has been to award you that Barnstar with "Thanks for all your hard work on Wikipedia!" David notMD (talk) 01:56, 2 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Agreeded, I'm not exactly sure what motivated holla6464 to give me the barnstar, but holla6464 did, and i'm thankful.

Shadowblade08 (talk) 15:31, 2 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Shadowblade08: Talk pages (i.e., User talk:Shadowblade08) are simply places for other editors to post messages to you and for you to reply to them; they really should have little else on them (see WP:TPO). Some people put more stuff there, and some put other stuff on their user pages (i.e., User:Shadowblade08), sometimes with quite technical and intricate wiki markup, but hopefully in accordance with WP:UP. Remember that the purpose of all of it is to facilitate work and improvement on encyclopedic content (articles) – it's not really a place for general social-media type communication and activity. Also, none of this decorative stuff is necessary to editing articles – it's just some nice stuff to play with occasionally once you get some technical expertise under your belt. You may find that other editors, with their own schedules and tasks that they want to accomplish here, may be reluctant to help out with this sort of thing (there never seems to be enough time in the day/month/year/life). I hope this makes sense – it's 0545 here and I need to sleep. —[AlanM1 (talk)]— 12:48, 2 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Why is the visual editor disabled when editing certain pages like talk pages?

Even if I'm trying to edit a full talk page and not just adding a new section, I can only edit in source mode. Is there a reason for this? Sebastian^{Talk | Contrib.} - 04:33, 2 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Sebastian Hudak, welcome to the Teahouse. The Visual Editor is only for pages in the articlespace; anything outside of that relies completely on source code editing. Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝) 04:53, 2 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Tenryuu Ah, okay, I see. Is there a reason for this? Just curious. Sebastian^{Talk | Contrib.} - 05:01, 2 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Sebastian Hudak, you'd have to ask the Visual Editor team for more details, like Whatamidoing. You could try the suggestion that Rotideypoc41352 suggested below. Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝) 06:49, 2 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Sebastian Hudak: VisualEditor is enabled in many non-talk namespaces including Article, User and Draft, but not Wikipedia and Template. It's disabled in namespaces where it's judged to give many problems and not be helpful. mw:Help:VisualEditor/FAQ says no to "Will the visual editor be enabled on talk pages?" PrimeHunter (talk) 11:27, 2 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Sebastian Hudak: I think if one plays around with the URL, one can force Visual Editor even for talk pages, like Talk:Dick Vitale. Stay well, Rotideypoc41352 (talk · contribs) 05:34, 2 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks everyone; this was helpful! :) I may try to make a user script to enable the visual editor globally, though I'm not sure. Once again, thanks to everyone who helped! Sebastian^{Talk | Contrib.} - 06:47, 3 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

The question of where the Visual Editor is and is not available is wrapped up in the history of the Visual Editor. The original plan had been, if I recall correctly, to deploy the Visual Editor in all namespaces, and to make it the default editor, and to do this rollout rather quickly. The Visual Editor had some problems, as any new software does, and many regular editors protested having it implemented quickly and by default. My own opinion is that, at the time, the WMF developers were leading and deciding the priorities of development, rather than letting the multiple communities of editors (and, yes, we have multiple communities of editors) decide on priorities. The Visual Editor was oriented to non-technical editors, and technically oriented editors who were familiar with the source editor disliked it. The debate over the speed at which the Visual Editor would be deployed was sometimes unpleasant, and the resolution was the current compromise. That is my summary; others may have other summaries. My own view is that the problem was that, for a while, the developers were setting development priorities rather than listening to the multiple communities. Robert McClenon (talk) 17:19, 4 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

/* Journalism, literature and writing */ Michael Durack, 1974 author of The Illegal from Holland and Conversations With a Deaf Cat

How do I add a notable alumni into the article on University of Illinois at Chicago (UIC)?

Mdd427 (talk) 11:05, 2 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

If you look at List of University of Illinois at Chicago people, every person on the list already has a Wikipedia article about them. So, article first, then list. The article may be impossible, as though Durack has published a few books, a Google search found no useful content about him that could be a citation for said article. David notMD (talk) 11:50, 2 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Draft:Kwonjungho

Hello!

I have recently drafted an article that has sadly been declined. Many of the sources are from the artist's website - however, each page contains an external piece of literature written about the artist by external curators/art historians. Even though they are on the artist's site - they are not the artist's own words. Many of the texts have been translated from Korean to English so they can be accessed by an English audience. Does this class as a reliable reference? See example below:

http://www.kwonjungho.com/~critics_list_en/view?p=3&article_id=1673

Thank you ever so much for your advice and guidance.

All the best

FayeHamblettJ (talk) 12:26, 2 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

The advice by the reviewer is to reduce the number of references, as many are not accepted by Wikipedia (Wikipedia articles, artist's own website, Youtube, interviews, etc.) If there is content on the artist's website that was created by independent sources - curators/historians - then use the original sources as references rather than the artist. References to content in Korean is acceptable, although it will help reviewers if there are some good references in English. Lastly, reference format needs to be improved, as should not be just http David notMD (talk) 12:34, 2 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@FayeHamblettJ: I.e., please see WP:EASYREFBEGIN for how to do references. —[AlanM1 (talk)]— 12:54, 2 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Want to know

Imofficial18 (talk) 14:07, 2 April 2020 (UTC) Dear Wikipedia Team, How are you i hope you doing great well can you please tell me where our team mistake to create a page about Imran Manzoor[reply]

Draft content

Teacher career He was to the Govt Teacher Destination PST/PTC/JV in 2012 Govt High School Block No.13 Township

Cricket career Imran Manzoor is a Pakistani Cricket Player who has been a member of the Pakistan Cricket Team since August 2018.

Entrepreneur career Imran Manzoor is founder of Digitecho (Digital Technology) Imran Manzoor as known as Mani is also an author of Thriveglobal. Kivodaily Fandom MuckRack e27 He is often invited as a speaker to share his views by reputed organisations, leading institutions & academia in Pakistan and overseas.

He actively leverages the power of Media Relations & Social Media , Developer to meet his company’s business objectives ranging from brand building, market positioning to business development. He has successfully increased efficiencies, reduced costs and boosted profitability of his business through network mobilization. Over 80% of his business comes from his strategic use of social media and media relations.

He believes that building online presence through organic initiatives brings more effective and sustainable business advantages rather than a digital marketing driven push strategy.

Imran's clientele ranges from SMEs to some of the top corporations in Pakistan. His strength lies in his ability to successfully position CEOs as thought leaders & online brand ambassadors of their respective businesses. He has been working closely many top web developer

References Govt TeacherPakistani Cricket Player

Thriveglobal

Fandom

Muckrack

e27

Kivodaily

@Imofficial18: Welcome to the Teahouse. I don't see any contributions from your account aside from posting here. If you would like to start an article about Imran Nazoor, please read WP:YFA thoroughly first and start a draft using the Article Wizard. I will say that what you have is blatantly promotional and would not be accepted on here. If you are connected to Nazoor please declare a conflict of interest on your user page and on the draft's talk page. --Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝) 14:25, 2 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Editing on Android?

Does anybody have a recommendation for an Android app or something that they use to edit wiki? My browser and the native Wikipedia app are pretty buggy for me, and I don't get great performance on them. Anyone has anything lol? I'llbeyourbeach (talk) 14:17, 2 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, I'llbeyourbeach and welcome to the Teahouse. I edit variously on a tiny iPhone 5, an old Android tablet, and one a Windows PC. I've never felt the need to use any app for editing on a mobile device here, although I nearly always set them to display in 'desktop view' (there's a switchable link to 'mobile view' at the very bottom of every page.) I have installed Chrome on my Android, and tend to alternate between it and the default browser, but rarely encounter many problems. If you really feel the need to edit via an app (which will probably restrict certain actions, over editing directly in a browser), see List of Wikipedia mobile applications. I'm sorry I can't offer any actual recommendations for you, though. Nick Moyes (talk) 14:32, 2 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@I'llbeyourbeach: Cullen328 has an essay about smartphone editing. I think it could be a bit more concise, but it contains more useful information than all other pages on the topic (such as Wikipedia:Editing_on_mobile_devices) combined. Tigraan^{Click here to contact me} 14:54, 2 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

my first article show as draft

hello dear friends, recently i write my first article Draft:Mohsen_Esmaeili_(1966) but it published as Draft. How can it change to a normal article that is searchable? please help

Mrdaniela 14:46, 2 April 2020 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mrdaniela (talk • contribs)

Mrdaniela I'm afraid that this article is not ready to be published in main space. It reads like a CV, and would be quickly declined if it were to be put through the AfC process, and probably deleted if it were published in main space. Have you read our notability guidelines at NBIO? Your article needs to have sourcing that establishes the subject's notability, and it should be written in neutral, objective prose, based on reliably published, independent and secondary sources. At the moment it just has a somewhat promotional introduction, and a list of achievements/professional experience, more suited to LinkedIn. Take a look at FIRST, and also (if you know this subject), COI and PAID. Best GirthSummit _(blether) 15:08, 2 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

(edit conflict) Hello, Mrdaniela. To add to the above, once you have revised the draft, you may submit it by copy-pasting the magic code {{subst:submit}} (including the brackets) at the top of the article.

The major issue (before the problem that CVs are not OK on Wikipedia) is that we only have articles about "notable" topics, which means the page must contain references that are simultaneously (1) from a reliable source (such as a major national newspaper), (2) independent of the subject (press releases, interviews do not count), and (3) deal with the subject at length. See WP:GNG for details.

In your draft, all references are in Persian; that is allowed, and not unexpected for the subject at hand, but it means most editors on the English Wikipedia (myself included) cannot read them and are not familiar with them (for instance, I cannot cite any Iranian newspaper), so it is harder for us to evaluate whether they prove "notability". For instance, ref #3 is to the BBC (a reliable news source); however, a machine-translation of the page seems to speak about a film by Mitra Mansouri about an earthquake in Bam, Iran, and makes no mention of Mohsen Esmaeili (even under a different transliteration). That might be a link error from your part, but it makes me doubt that the other references are any good.

I would encourage you to pick the best three sources that you think show the notability of that person, and include in the reference a specific quote and its English translation, to help the reviewer's work.

In my (uninformed) opinion, a chairman of the Iran Airports Company has a good chance of being notable, but you will need to find sources that demonstrate it. Tigraan^{Click here to contact me} 15:22, 2 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

New User Queston

Can a bio be inserted about person (Councilman at the City of Glenarden) Please offer written direction for inserting information that is a local municipality Councilman.City of Glenarden (talk) 15:27, 2 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

City of Glenarden, hello and welcome to the Teahouse. If you are associated with the subject, we strongly discourage editing the page. This is to avoid subjects becoming promotional, and to keep Wikipedia neutral. you can still suggest changes on the talk page of the article, where an uninvolved editor will assess the request.

Also, we do not allow generic usernames for companies, or cities in your case. Something like John at City of Genarden is OK though. ThatMontrealIP (talk) 15:31, 2 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

A city councilor probably would not meet the Wikipedia definition of a notable politician, unless they are notable for something else. 331dot (talk) 15:33, 2 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

How can I locate

How can I locate a song from 1978/9 called SS sung by a man about to fly on a plane, all things are double S in the song? 96.59.107.138 (talk) 15:29, 2 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

This is a forum for asking questions about editing Wikipedia; general-knowledge questions are answered at the reference desks. That said, your song is "Double S" by Bill Anderson (and it's the girl the singer meets, not he himself, who is "about to fly on a plane"). A video is available on YouTube. Deor (talk) 16:18, 2 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

~~This isn't a question for Wikipedia, and as such we cannot answer that for you.~~ Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝) 16:38, 2 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the answer Deor. --Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝) 16:39, 2 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Advice regarding new article

Hello, hope this message finds everyone well. I am giving my first article a shot and the same reviewer keeps rejecting based on lack of changes and/or notable references. With the exception of today's resubmission all other ones had major edits. I have based the references both as far as notability and specifics on other similarly themed articles already published,especially for Greek or Greek American Actors. Some with far fewer references and not nearly as reputable. Could someone please have a look at the last draft published and provide an explanation prior to moving on to my next article attempt. thanks in advance. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Adonis_Kapsalis GP75S (talk) 15:40, 2 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hello and welcome to the Teahouse. The article has been submitted five times and rejected five times. IN each case the note by the reviewer was that the sources do not establish that the person is notable. What the reviewers are telling you is that the person is not notable per our standards. And, as the last message from a reviewer said, it is time to stop submitting it as it will never be an article as the subject is not notable.ThatMontrealIP (talk) 15:54, 2 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Courtesy: draft has been deleted. David notMD (talk) 17:49, 2 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

A question about stubs

Hi, quick question about stubs. Should a stub about a geographical location with at least 2 reliable references be tagged for 'additional citations'? NawJee (talk) 16:56, 2 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

NawJee (talk) 16:56, 2 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

NawJee, I would generally say not. The additional citations tag is for when there is a reasonable amount of unsourced content in the article, and so for the short stubs common for geographical features, there isn't really anything more to cite. If what's there is cited, the quantity of references isn't important. ~~ Alex Noble/1-2/TRB 21:57, 2 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Alex Noble Hi, thanks for the answer. So, what should I do with the tag here, Ambler State Forest? NawJee (talk) 16:06, 3 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

NawJee, I'd say that tag is correct; the sources aren't great - one isn't independent - its de facto the site's official website, and the other is just a map. ~~ Alex Noble/1-2/TRB 16:14, 3 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

All right, I see what you mean. Well, we just have to wait and see if any sources spring up in the future. Thanks! NawJee (talk) 16:19, 3 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hello

Whats good, peeps. Im new to this club, it seems pretty dope. Starting on an article on the 2017 Montana Earthquake. Got any tips with bibliography and putting in pics? I dont know the coding stuff, and it all seems complicated to me. Feel free to contact me via my talk page if you want to help out. Much appreciated.Webecoolalasdair (talk) 19:32, 2 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I'll drop a couple suggestions on your talk page. Cellodont (talk) 19:43, 2 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Unclear

Hello,

I was wondering what the difference is between Gallery and Multiple Images? When is each one's use appropriate?

Thanks!

HillelFrei ^{• talk •} 20:16, 2 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hillelfrei, Howdy hello and welcome to the teahouse! Typically I use multiple images for two to three images at most, and for when I want the photos to be in-text. Galleries are better for more than 3 images, but come with the caveat that they are usually at the end of an article. CaptainEek ^{Edits Ho Cap'n!}⚓ 07:28, 3 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

CaptainEek, thanks. --HillelFrei ^{• talk •} 15:30, 3 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

For the record: also asked and answered on the Helpdesk. Hillelfrei, please don't duplicate the same question on more than one forum. It can waste the (entirely volunteered) time of responders and in complex or unclear issues lead to confusion. It can also resemble Forum shopping, though I don't suggest that is the case here. {The poster forermly known as 87.81.230.195} 90.197.27.39 (talk) 18:49, 3 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

90.197.27.39:Aight gotchu my bad --HillelFrei ^{• talk •} 20:06, 3 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

First article help

Hello. Would someone experienced help review my first article submission for approval?

Draft:Kirk_Dudley — Preceding unsigned comment added by Renasant419 (talk • contribs) 21:17, 2 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Renasant419 (talk) 21:10, 2 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Renasant419: I made a few minor edits to help. You've done a good job for your first article in terms of content and coding, but unfortunately you're not going to be able to overcome a glaring problem - the almost complete lack of media coverage of him indicating notability. You're hampered due to the fact that he's older so things may not be available online. Check out WP:BAND for notability guidelines. Good luck. (Please remember to sign your posts on talk pages by typing four keyboard tildes like this: ~~~~. Or, you can use the [ reply ] button, which automatically signs posts.) TimTempleton ^(talk) ^(cont) 23:05, 2 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I agree. Your refs are name-only mentions that confirm he played on various tracks. None of them are at-length article about him and his music career. I expect this will be declined, and that no amount of rewriting can save it. David notMD (talk) 23:24, 2 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

See WP:Overcome which mentions the previous point. HillelFrei ^{• talk •} 00:10, 3 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you! Tim and David. I’ve read both articles and found valuable information. Lastly is it still possible to change the page title to “Kirk Dudley (musician)” now that I have already submitted? Thanks for the additions btw TimTempleton --Renasant419 (talk) 03:41, 3 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, Renasant419. No, we only use a term in parenthesis like that when it is necessary to distinguish two different topics with the same name. See WP:ATDAB. --ColinFine (talk) 09:54, 3 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Renasant419:, have you checked out the References and External links sources used by the Stax Records article to see if any contain extended material about Dudley? (I notice he is not mentioned at all in that article.) {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} 90.197.27.39 (talk)

Queen of Diamonds : wasn't Marie Osmond once referred to as QofD?

I'm positive that it late 70's -about time of Donnie & Marie Show- that i heard of Marie referred as the Queen of Diamonds BUT I CAN'T FIND MENTION THESE DAYS

These days google hits about a singer who wasn't even born when I'm remembering her. It's possible I'm remember references of both Donnie & Marie referred to as "King & Queen of Diamonds", OR maybe one or both was referred to as K/Q of HEARTS?

I'm sure it's not my imagination but after 40 years hearing one obscure reference It's definitely POSSIBLY i blurred edges over time but couldn't have imagined it from whole cloth.

HOPEFULLY ONE OF YOU SMART COOKIES HAVE BETTER TOOLS, can point me in right direction or maybe even have better memories of the 70's ?

Qazwiz (talk) 00:39, 3 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Qazwiz, welcome to the Teahouse, where we answer questions about editing and maneuvering through Wikipedia for beginners. You may want to try the reference desk. Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝) 01:01, 3 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Đạo lý ở đời

Nhân chi sơ Tập tương cận Nhân chi sơ Tập tương viễn Nhân chi tính Tập tương chinh Nhân chi sinh Tập tương thể Nhân chi tồn Tập tương trung ... Tâm sinh khí Khí sinh thần Thần sinh đạo Đạo sinh lực Lực sinh công Công sinh tâm ... Thập nhân sinh Thập nhân khắc./. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tư lệnh Nguyễn Duy Khải (talk • contribs) 01:23, 3 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Tư lệnh Nguyễn Duy Khải, this is not the Vietnamese Wikipedia. Please ask your question over there. Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝) 02:10, 3 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Primary sources as the sole source in an infobox

There’s currently a dispute over at Kotlebists – People's Party Our Slovakia over 5 ideologies listed in the infobox. The reason for the dispute is that the sole sources used for them come from the party's official website, a primary source. Is it allowed on Wikipedia for primary sources to be the sole source used for information in an infobox? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nigel Abe (talk • contribs) 02:08, 3 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Nigel Abe: The relevant policy is at Wikipedia:No original research#Primary, secondary and tertiary sources - A primary source may be used on Wikipedia only to make straightforward, descriptive statements of facts that can be verified by any educated person with access to the primary source but without further, specialized knowledge. DannyS712 (talk) 04:49, 3 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Nigel Abe: The issue should not be specifically about the infobox, as infoboxes are supposed to summarize content that is in the body of the article. I would say primary sources would be sufficient for position statements on issues, but not necessarily to include them as having ideologies or be part of movements that are not uniquely their own (i.e., that are defined by political scientists and which are shared by other people and parties). I'm sure there's policy or discussion on it somewhere in the Wikipedia (or Wikipedia talk) namespace if you search. —[AlanM1 (talk)]— 12:42, 3 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Proposal to split to La Poupée qui fait non (Mylène Farmer and Khaled version) from La Poupée qui fait non

Are there templates to use?

La Poupée qui fait non

first suggested 28 December 2011

T3g5JZ50GLq (talk) 04:37, 3 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

T3g5JZ50GLq, there is. {{Split}} links to a discussion on the talk page. ~~ Alex Noble/1-2/TRB 08:37, 3 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Asking

How can I edit a semi protected article? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ngangom Kailash (talk • contribs) 05:26, 3 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Ngangom Kailash, either wait until your account is autoconfirmed (at least 4 days old with at least 10 edits) or post an edit request using the {{edit semi-protected}} template over at the talk page of the article you want to edit. Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝) 06:29, 3 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Ngangom Kailash: The easiest way to post an edit request is to start by clicking the "View source" tab on the desktop version of the article. Then there is a "Submit an edit request" button. If you are on the mobile version then first click "Desktop" at the bottom of the page. PrimeHunter (talk) 08:49, 3 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Is there a way to find when an article was assessed by a WikiProject?

I was editing an article when I noticed that it is in GA class in most of the relevant WikiProjects, but somehow, the article is merely C-class in the Novels/Fantasy WikiProject. I wanted to find out when the article was assessed by them (if it was long ago I’d’ve requested reassessment by that WikiProject) using the “Find Addition/Removal” tool (I was going to copy the {{WikiProject Novels|class=C from the talk page source code and see when it was added) but it is down (high internet traffic?). So my question is whether there is any other way to find when an article was assessed by a WikiProject… RedBulbBlueBlood9911 (talk) 06:33, 3 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

RedBulbBlueBlood9911, That is likely just an artifact of improper formatting/someone forgot to update the template. If an article is GA, it is GA across all projects. I have updated the template you referred to so that it shows correctly. CaptainEek ^{Edits Ho Cap'n!}⚓ 07:15, 3 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, CaptainEek, and thanks for pointing out that a topic can have only 1 classification. However, I still want to know if there is any way to find out when an article was put in any article class (besides the addition/removal tool). Besides, I noticed just now that the Ford Model T page is fully B class as per the talk page source code but when I just view the page it says C-class in the Technology WikiProject banner. Why is this happening? RedBulbBlueBlood9911 (talk) 13:11, 4 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

To answer your second question, if you look at Template:WikiProject Technology it says: "When |class=b is set, all six criteria need to be satisfied, otherwise the article is treated as if |class=c were set." In the case to which you refer, the parameters B-Class-1 to B-Class-6 have not been set. --David Biddulph (talk) 13:28, 4 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

... though at first glance I can't see where in the template code it sets the class to C in such a situation. --David Biddulph (talk) 13:44, 4 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Help

Hi there,

I have submitted an article on Draft:Will Roger, but there seem to be problems with it. Can someone let me know what changes need to be made in order for it to be approved?

Thank you.

DamsonArts (talk) 13:58, 3 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Written as is it does not pass WP:GNG. I would've decline too if I had been the reviewer. It's unclear why or if the person actually meets the notability guideline, a redirect to Burning Man may be the best thing. Hell in a Bucket (talk) 14:11, 3 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

DamsonArts, it's all been explained to you on your talk page. If you don't understand the information you've been provided, we will be glad to clarify it. However, if you are not interested enough in Wikipedia to bother reading the information you have been provided already well enough to ask specific questions, really, why should we be interested in helping you? There are plenty of people asking for help here to keep us busy, thanks. And most of those folks are here because they want to contribute to Wikipedia, not because they want to promote themselves or others close to them. John from Idegon (talk) 14:21, 3 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Change photo

how do I change the photo on my page as someone added it and I don’t like it. Pauline Boanas

Copey14 (talk) 15:15, 3 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Here is a link to what Wikipedia says about the subject of an article editing the article about themselves. I'm not very familiar with the process, so hopefully someone more knowledgeable on the matter comes along. Useight (talk) 15:32, 3 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, Copey14. The article in question is Pauline Cope. I have changed the photo to something more recent. I agree that the older photo was not very good. I suggest that you upload another selfie that is in color, better centered, and not wearing sunglasses. You do have a conflict of interest, but if you upload an even better photo and notify me, I will change it for you. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 16:00, 3 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Help Starting my first page

Hi,

I am new to wikipedia as a contributor, and I just signed in as a contributor today.

I would like to start a new page for gathering information about all things covid19 stats. I have few question: 1)- I created a template of what would the page contain under Camillebatarekh/sandbox, and was wondering if someone can review and let me know if this would be a useful content. 2)- I read that I can "move" (or rename) my sandbox into the visible page, but I do not see the "More" button that would allow me to do it. Is it because I am still not allowed to publish externally? If not when will I be able to do so?

Thanks Camille

Camillebatarekh (talk) 15:22, 3 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Camillebatarekh, have you checked out WP:COVID-19? Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝) 15:26, 3 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Four days and at least ten edits allows editors to published article directly, i.e., convert Sandbox to an article. Same opinion as Tennyruu - there is already so much information about COVID-19 in existing articles that it is unlikely that a brand new editor would be able to create an article of value. If you wish to persist, I recommend submitting your draft to Articles for Creation, so that an experienced reviewer can decide. A note: hyperlinks are not allowed in the text of articles, so all that has to be deleted. David notMD (talk) 16:26, 3 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Tea house

Hey !!! Thanks for inviting me to Teahouse . I'm glad to be a part of Teahouse. So Now I'm a member of Teahouse but still I need some more information about Teahouse. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tanisha priyadarshini (talk • contribs) 15:43, 3 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Welcome to the Teahouse, Tanisha priyadarshini. The Teahouse is a friendly place for asking questions about editing Wikipedia. More experienced editors provide accurate and helpful answers. Our goal is to work together to improve the encyclopedia. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 16:06, 3 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Citations

Is there any kind of monitoring done by Administrators regarding the content of citations for Wikipedia pages. e.g. When a citation is used that has a significant bias or that attacks someone with an opposing point of view is that citation permitted to stand as valid. Or is the decision regarding the validity of the citation left up to the reader? Here is an example:https://respectfulinsolence.com/2017/02/21/how-antivaxers-deceptively-don-the-mantle-of-vaccine-safety-activists/ Thank you for your help with this.Unicorn46 (talk) 18:32, 3 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hello and welcome to the Teahouse. Administrators do not monitor sources, editors do. If you see a bad source, like the one above which is clearly self-published, you should remove it. See also WP:RS for what constitutes a reliable source, and WP:RSN for the discussion of reliable sources. Thanks.ThatMontrealIP (talk) 18:39, 3 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Unicorn46: Thanks for caring to keep things neutral. Many editors have long watch lists and monitor articles for vandalism, spam and promotionalism. There are also bots that can correct some vandalism, but we mostly depend on human eyeballs to keep things running smoothly. If a publication is unreliable and/or is repeatedly used to inject bias, it may eventually land on the list of blacklisted sources, and the site's code will prevent the citation from being added. See Wikipedia:Spam blacklist TimTempleton ^(talk) ^(cont) 20:59, 3 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Unicorn46: I read the link you shared after I responded. It is a personal essay/blog, and there's no indication the person is notable enough to be quoted as a known expert, so it fails WP:RS, whether we agree with the sentiment or not. TimTempleton ^(talk) ^(cont) 21:06, 3 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

uzuri ya tarakilishi katika shule za msingi na za upili

102.140.231.253 (talk) 19:18, 3 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

This translates from Swahili to "computer science in primary and secondary schools". IP, if you have a question regarding the English Wikipedia, let us know in English.ThatMontrealIP (talk) 19:20, 3 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Sandbox

I am trying to create my 1st wiki article. I typed  something into the sanbox but it is still very rough. How do I save this so I can come back to it & work on it later? The only option I'm being given is to publish & it's not ready for that

Ian B Evans 19:48, 3 April 2020 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by RandomTyke (talk • contribs)

RandomTyke Hello and welcome to the Teahouse. In this context, "Publish changes" should be understood to mean "save changes". It does not mean "publish your work to the encyclopedia". Note that you clicked "publish changes" to post here. It used to say "save", but was changed for legal reasons to better emphasize that what you write is visible to the public even if not formally part of the encyclopedia(like this page). 331dot (talk) 19:52, 3 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Flagging a (BOLP) page for (NPOV) (V) NOR) issues when you have (NPOV) with LP

Thanks for any advice in advance...

If you were privy to a discussion outside Wikipedia on a bio page for someone where the page was being updated by associates or followers of the subject of the biography, how would you handle that? The person who is subject of the page, while not weighing in on the discussion certainly is aware of it. I’ve linked the Biography of Living Persons page but the individual forges on messing with the page.

I have NPOV issues with the subject and would rather not be involved. My first instinct would be to flag issues with an editor who previously been involved with the page.

Strangely this is not the first time this has happened as someone I know edited their page to much embarrassment. I guess this happens more than you would think?

Thanks.

HareHereHere (talk) 20:47, 3 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

HareHereHere The article itself may be tagged with {{COI}} and as an extra courtesy you can leave a note explaining what is happening on the talk page. TimTempleton ^(talk) ^(cont) 20:54, 3 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Squad list

Hi there, I work for a semi-professional football club and I’ve put information on our squad up for it to be repeatedly deleted and the page was also locked for a few days. I’ve been told as I work for the club I’m not allowed to edit and that as I’m an inexperienced editor I need someone who is more accomplished on Wikipedia to edit the page as my information is unsourced even though I’m at the club most days a week. I would extremely appreciate help. Many thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by Matt Longhurst (talk • contribs) 21:13, 3 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Matt Longhurst Hello and welcome to the Teahouse. Please read the conflict of interest and paid editing policies as you have some required formal disclosures to make(on your user page). You should avoid directly editing the article about your club, but instead you may propose edits as formal edit requests on the article talk page(Talk:Banstead Athletic F.C.) Please understand that your personal word is not sufficient as a source of information for an article. This is not because we don't believe you, but because it must be possible to verify the information. Wikipedia articles summarize what independent reliable sources state about article subjects. I'm not familiar with editing many articles about soccer/football clubs, but apparently some who follow that article state that squad lists do not typically appear on articles about clubs similar to yours. If you disagree, you should discuss your concerns on the aforementioned article talk page. 331dot (talk) 21:26, 3 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Duplicate articles

I think I found two articles about the same thing. How do I add a template message to show that?

Zivllosopher (talk) 21:27, 3 April 2020 (UTC) Dominick[reply]

Hi Zivllosopher! Can you point is to the articles your talking of? There are a couple different solutions, but I can't know which to use until I know the articles. Thanks! --Puddleglum ^2.0_{(How's my driving?)} 22:31, 3 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I think I accidentally got confused between Wikipedia and simple english wikipedia, thanks for trying to help --Zivllosopher (talk) 23:27, 3 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

No problem, thank you for coming! --Puddleglum ^2.0_{(How's my driving?)} 19:02, 4 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Fuller house(Andrea,”kimmy”)

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andrea_Barber#External_links This will send you to that Wikipedia link about her but can someone fix that page issue with citations it’s been there for about 2 years if their’s not enough information than maybe someone can fix it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Wikihowaboutthat (talk • contribs) 22:42, 3 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Courtesy: The under-referenced article is Andrea Barber. Still under-referenced. David notMD (talk) 23:22, 3 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Adding more content on the 'Asexuality' article

I was wondering if I could add my work from one of my courses to the main article (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asexuality). My work is on the Ace Community Census that contains a brief introduction of The Ace Community Surveys and the results/ data found throughout the years. Thank you.Ramen.01 (talk) 22:51, 3 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Ramen.01: Hello and welcome to the Teahouse. We only add references to work that has been published in a reputable sources such as newspapers and book publishers. This is based on our policy for no original research. The only time we would add school work by a student would be in the rare case where a student's published PhD or Master's thesis was relevant to the article. Thanks for your question.ThatMontrealIP (talk) 23:17, 3 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Citations for the New York Blood Center Wikipedia page: Plasma collection from recovered COVID-19 patients

Greetings Wikipedians, I am new and bumbling and have citations to place on the New York Blood Center page regarding the Covid-19 Plasma collection https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_York_Blood_Center I would try editing but do NOT want to damage the Wiki. Can someone help? Citations are these. NICK MOYES thank you for helping me last time. NEW YORK TIMES https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/26/health/plasma-coronavirus-treatment.html FOX NEWS https://www.foxnews.com/media/ny-blood-center-beth-shaz-plasma-coronavirus#utm_source=twitter%20nybce&utm_medium=tweet&utm_campaign=covid%2019&utm_term=corona%20pandemic%20nybce%20first%20to%20collect NBC NEWS https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/blood-centers-will-collect-plasma-covid-19-survivors-bid-treatment-n1174011 Apocalypticwarlord (talk) 23:05, 3 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

hello and welcome to the Teahouse. The best place for your suggestion is on the talk page of the article. Also, it is easy to add citations yourself. Just click the <ref></ref> tags at the bottom of the edit window, near the publish button. Then paste your source between the new tags.ThatMontrealIP (talk) 23:13, 3 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Subscription Library entry

Hello there.

I am trying to add in a link for one entry under Subscription Library but I keep getting tripped up.

1820: The General Society of Mechanics & Tradesmen of the City of New York has both a website and a wikipedia page but I am not having luck adding a link.

Thank you.

Thomas

Tekaries (talk) 00:15, 4 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Tekaries Hello and welcome to the Teahouse. Assuming that the IP that made the edit was you, such a link was added with this edit. 331dot (talk) 10:28, 4 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Okay, the issue was that you used an ampersand instead of the word "and". The link is correct now. 331dot (talk) 10:31, 4 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

1968 Democratic National Convention

Hello,

I recently edited the page for the 1968 Democratic National Convention. This is because in the list of candidates it had, "Pigasus,"listed as one of the candidates. Pigasus was a pig, nominated by a group known as the Yippies in protest to the candidates who were being considered by the democrats at their convention. Obviously, he was not a serious candidate and not considered by any member of the Democratic Party for the nomination. Therefore, I removed him from the section titled "other candidates." This revision was undone and Pigasus was put back as a candidate. I would like to know why Pigasus was put back?

Thank you, Nate

100.36.105.237 (talk) 00:35, 4 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hello and welcome. Your edit was reverted by another user as vandalism or at least what they believed to be vandalism, according to the article's edit history. If you feel that your edit was valid, you should discuss your concerns on the article talk page. Keep in mind that Wikipedia summarizes what independent reliable sources state- and if they state that this pig was a candidate for the nomination, there isn't much we can do about it. We go with what the sources say. 331dot (talk) 00:38, 4 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Physical headquarters of Wikimedia and Wikipedia

Does the entirety of all the Wikipedia editions online database servers and Wikimedia online database servers, the likes of which are required for Wikipedia to stay online, physically located in the US state of California or the state of Virgina? I've always wondered.

47.152.145.95 (talk) 00:51, 4 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, IP editor. The Wikimedia Foundation has headquarters offices at 1 Montgomery St, Suite 1600, San Francisco, CA 94104, but the servers are not located there in that city's financial district. The San Francisco server is located in the Bayview–Hunters Point neighborhood about five miles to the south. Other servers are located in Texas, Virginia, The Netherlands and Singapore. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 01:04, 4 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Auto-confirmed

when do i know i've been auto confirmed? what happens when im auto confirmed? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Homeofthething (talk • contribs) 01:01, 4 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Homeofthething Hello and welcome to the Teahouse. You are autoconfirmed when your account is four days old and has 10 edits or more. You have met the latter criteria and are close to the former criteria(if you aren't there already). For what being autoconfirmed means, please click on WP:AUTOCONFIRMED. 331dot (talk) 01:06, 4 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks Homeof 01:12, 4 April 2020 (UTC)

Hello, Homeofthething. I looked at your contributions to see if you were autoconfirmed and I see that most of your edits were connected to April Fool's Day disruption including bad coronavirus jokes and other more recent foolishness. This is a project to build and improve an encyclopedia, and it is not a social media site. So, get to work please. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 01:13, 4 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

covid research break through at ubc/canada

https://www.med.ubc.ca/news/ubc-led-study-finds-trial-drug-can-significantly-block-early-stages-of-covid-19-in-engineered-human-tissues/

96.44.121.101 (talk) 02:01, 4 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Take this to Coronavirus disease 2019, treatment research section. Or else Talk for that article. David notMD (talk) 02:30, 4 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

The Bright and the Dark Side of Anonymity

Anonymity has a bright side: It protects honest authors and editors. It also has a dark side, which derives from our imperfect human nature. We all carry along, often unconsciously, some prejudice. A problem arises when we act on this prejudice. On the contributor side, one example is posting malicious information in a Wikipedia article. An example on the editor side is to block new information from being posted due to some prejudice or even lack of information. Both are driven by a desire to exert power over others. Knowing that anonymity protects individuals from consequences promotes the appeal of exerting power; this is what I call the Dark Side of Anonymity. A huge number of comments from contributors relate to this Dark Side. The only way to deal with it in the context of Wikipedia is within the (anonymous) arbitration process, hoping that sound opinion will eventually prevail. David.Tomanek (talk) 02:25, 4 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Is there a question? David notMD (talk) 02:45, 4 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Colorado COVID-19

Hi, I'm a very new wikipedia editor, and have learned the value of wikipdia from doing so. I have a question concerning a graph to predict the number of future coronavirus cases on this page,https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=2020_coronavirus_pandemic_in_Colorado&action=history Since, I am sure everyone is doing their best to provide credible information, I have opened talk with the user of the graph Ralbeck...https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Ralbeck Although, he hasn't written back to me, he has tried to fix everything I've asked about. First they had no citations on their information, he came up with sources, some of them were a little odd, but, since he was trying I questioned further, he had stated basically that it was original work. I questioned this. Now he has made a wiki page to prove this original work. https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Colorado_USA_New_Cases_of_Corona_Virus_(updated_4-2-2020).png/. Anyway, since I am new, and not 100% on removing this from the Colorado Page, I was wondering if someone with more experience would look at it. I'd like to keep Wiki as a trusted source. Thank you. GunnisonMarmot (talk) 02:48, 4 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

GunnisonMarmot (talk) 02:48, 4 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Not an epidemiologist, virologist nor statistician, but I do not believe that Wikipedia is supposed to be in the prediction business. None of the other 2020 coronavirus pandemic articles for U.S. states or other countries have a Prediction section. I say delete it. David notMD (talk) 03:00, 4 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I have deleted it. Thank you. GunnisonMarmot (talk) 04:46, 4 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Translations from other languages of wikipedia to english and vice versa

Is there a function to request for a translation to be made from one wikipedia branch to another? The example that has prompted this is the disparity between the amount of information in the Windeby I page and the corresponding page for the German branch. The only way for an english speaker to view this is to use a faulty automatic translator or find someone to help them, not a very efficient solution. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windeby_I https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moorleiche_von_Windeby_I

Lukethecat2003 (talk) 04:55, 4 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Lukethecat2003! You're looking for WP:TRANSLATETOHERE. Feel free to let us know if you have any trouble with the instructions there and we can help. {{u|Sdkb}} ^talk 06:33, 4 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Correcting articles

I recently noticed two mistakes in Wikipedia articles where numbers were quoted erroneously. On posting I noticed that the changes weren't accepted in either case so this must have been automatic. What's wrong with my account?

Are.u.sure (talk) 08:20, 4 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, Are.u.sure, and welcome to the Teahouse. Your edits to Hospital-acquired infection were not reverted by a bot, but by another editor, CLCStudent (if you pick the History tab for the article, you can see this). I don't know why they did this: it looks as if they thought you were randomly changing the data as a kind of petty vandalism - this does happen a lot. The thing to do now is to open a discussion on Talk:Hospital-acquired infection to explain why you think the figure is wrong. I note that the article Ignaz Semmelweis does seem to bear out your figure of 2 rather than 20; but really this needs to be settled by somebody who has access to one of the sources.

You did nothing wrong with your first edit, though you could have put more explanation in your edit summary. When CLCStudent reverted you, you should have opened a discussion rather than applying it again, but clearly you didn't realise it had been reverted by another editor, so that is forgiveable as the action of a new editor. But discussing it is the way to go forward. I have pinged CLCStudent here, so they should see this answer, and be ready to discuss it with you. --ColinFine (talk) 08:54, 4 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I added a new ref that says the difference was three times higher (for mortality, not infection). So, not 20X. Note that the figure adjacent to the History section supported the death difference not being 20X. David notMD (talk) 09:26, 4 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Help with references

Hi I am writing a page for a person. It is my first ever one and it has been declined three times. Obviously I am a bit disappointed with it and would love help with choosing references to use which is the reason why it is being declined Evan.Slater (talk) 09:01, 4 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Actually, Draft:Will Manning (radio presenter) now declined three times and then Rejected, which means stop trying, as there is no evidence that this person can meet Wikipedia's criteria for notability at this point in his career. Your first ref is a one-line mention and your other ref is an interview = not contributing to notability. David notMD (talk) 09:44, 4 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Is Arcadia Publishing considered a reliable source?

Arcadia Publishing: is this considered a reliable source?

Grace, Rachel P. (November 2, 2015). "The Best Ice Cream Parlor Ever, According To Me". Omaha Food: Bigger Than Beef. Arcadia Publishing. pp. 90–92. ISBN 9781625855688. Retrieved July 25, 2017 – via Google Books. However, try as I might, I ran into some dead ends tracking down the exact story from anyone still alive today.

It seems similar to a vanity press, judging by this author's "I could not find anything on the topic I am writing about"...

T3g5JZ50GLq (talk) 10:15, 4 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Is there a template similar to {{cn}} like "This section is probably not true"? T3g5JZ50GLq (talk) 10:24, 4 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Would {{dubious}} do the trick? YorkshireLad ✿ ^(talk) 10:26, 4 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Arcadia Publishing is not a vanity press (authors do not pay to be published, Arcadia pays royalties), but the content of books published by Arcadia is solely the responsibility of the authors, as Arcadia does not fact checking. I agree that a dubious tag can work. David notMD (talk) 11:22, 4 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

A different question to raise is whether a chapter titled "The Best Ice Cream Parlor Ever, According To Me" would likely yield encyclopedic content. Some books from Arcadia's "Images of America" series are written by local or regional historians, but each title from this publisher should be treated on the basis of the credentials of the author relative to the book's subject.Oldsanfelipe2 (talk) 14:11, 4 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

2020 Manila International Airport IAI 1124A Westwind crash

Do you think the crash of Lionair's IAI 1124A at Manila International Airport qualifies for WP:N (and for article creation)? The accident caused a considerable fatality of 8 people, and this Google search also gives some reputable news reports, though I don't know whether it is WP:NOTNEWS, many thanks.廣九直通車 (talk) 10:16, 4 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Will Manning

Once again I asked for help and received none. Instead I was just told that my page had been rejected. I understand why but I don’t understand the standards of notability and references so please could someone give me little tips for the future if I edit another page.

ok thanks for the info — Preceding unsigned comment added by Evan.Slater (talk • contribs) 16:44, 4 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Evan.Slater (talk) 10:20, 4 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

~~Evan.Slater Hello. Looking at your edit history I don't see where you attempted to write a draft on any airplane crash. Could you link to the draft? 331dot (talk) 10:33, 4 April 2020 (UTC)~~[reply]

Evan.Slater, you added this comment to a different section. It clearly relates to #Help with references above, so I have addded a header. If you want to continue a discussion, please edit that section, don't just add something at the bottom of the page. --ColinFine (talk) 10:38, 4 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

And to answer your question, please read Notability. --ColinFine (talk) 10:40, 4 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Briefly, Wikipedia hopes for at least three (two?) references from reliable sources that contain content of some length about the topic. Not press releases, interviews or the subjects own website. Teahouse editors are volunteers. As best they can, they give advice, but helping improve articles is not one of the stated functions. David notMD (talk) 11:30, 4 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Reversed version of the article Insilico Medicine

Good day! Can you please help to assess my draft and provide me with advice on how to improve it?

That’s an update to the article about a notable AI-focused biotech company. The article itself was around since 2017 but was never expanded despite significant coverage in Forbes, MIT Technology Review, Fierce Biotech, C&EN, Science, Nature Biotechnology, Fortune, The Medical Futurist and other media. So I agreed to work on it as a paid editor (with respect to the rules, of course).

I have a BA in editorial and MA in science communication. Since 2017 I have contributed to Russian Wikipedia and I’m a reviewer there. So I’m pretty sure that I can write a good article. I always disclosed my paid edits, because I respect the rules, the principles and the community of Wikipedia. Other wikipedians checked my contributions thoroughly, yet treat me as an equal member of the community and respect my ethical standards and adherence to the rules.

A week ago I updated the article, but another editor reverted my text claiming it’s promotional bad faith editing. I got no comments (1, 2, 3) about the quality of the text I proposed. I believe that all the editors that follow the rules and keep it civil should be treated equally. So I ask you to help me assess my text and give advice on how I can improve it (if necessary). --Birulik (talk) 10:42, 4 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

You increased the length of the article three-fold by adding tremendous amounts of detail of what Insilico Medicine is and does. After an editor reverted the addition, you properly raised the subject at Talk. I agree with that editor - the added content went far beyond what is appropriate. Also, as a declared paid editor, the allowed path for changing content is to use the Talk page of the article to propose specific changes (text and refs). Then, an editor not affiliated with Insilico will either implement or deny those changes. David notMD (talk) 11:39, 4 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I'm sure all the details are significant. There has been no convincing evidence to the contrary. I can rework the draft and publish it in parts so that other editors can edit it in the current mode. This decision suits editors on Russian Wikipedia, for example. (PS My pro bono contribution is much bigger.) --Birulik (talk) 12:35, 4 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

If you're sure the details are significant, Birulik, then your job is to persuade other editors to accept that view: asserting it repeatedly is unlikely to achieve that end. (Nor is repeatedly mentioning your good behaviour). Please see dispute resolution. What happens on Russian Wikipedia has no bearing on what happens here. --ColinFine (talk) 14:20, 4 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

In any case, no one has yet proven that my draft is bad. Because it is good. But no one is willing to take responsibility to say that.(( --Birulik (talk) 14:42, 4 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Per WP:PAID (which you have declared), "Paid editing is further regulated by a community guideline, Wikipedia:Conflict of interest. This advises that those with a conflict of interest, including paid editors, are very strongly discouraged from directly editing affected articles, but should post content proposals on the talk pages of existing articles, and should put new articles through the articles for creation process, so they can be reviewed prior to being published." This means you should not restore your contribution, either in whole or in parts, directly to the article, but rather post reasonable sized portions to the article's Talk for other editors to decide. David notMD (talk) 14:47, 4 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Long Comments from Another Party

Thank you, User:ColinFine and User:Birulik. As noted, this started when Birulik rewrote the article on Insilico Medicine, to replace the existing article with a longer article, and other editors disagreed. ColinFine mentions dispute resolution. One particular form of dispute resolution was then already tried by Birulik, and that is that she did file a dispute at the Dispute Resolution Noticeboard. (I will note that the similar names and acronyms cause confusion. DRN is one of the DR processes, but it is not the only DR process.) The other editors declined to take part in moderated discussion, so the dispute at DRN was closed. I advised Birulik that she could either request advice at the Teahouse or publish a Request for Comments. I said that some (not all) editors at the Teahouse are willing to work with paid editors. I will also note that Birulik then complained, politely but persistently, that her request for assistance had been ignored for no good reason, or because she is a paid editor, when what she was asking was for a detailed review of her version of the article. I and others said that she has a right to ask for a markup of a draft, but that we have no obligation to give her that particular type of assistance, and that our only real obligation is to be civil, and everyone has been civil.) Robert McClenon (talk) 14:55, 4 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

So here we are. No one has an obligation to review her draft in detail, and anyone has the right to say that it is too long and gives undue coverage to her client. Birulik still has the right to publish a Request for Comments asking to replace the existing article with her version. Robert McClenon (talk) 14:55, 4 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I looked at the references for one small part of what she proposed: "Recognition: Insilico Medicine's AI-based approach to healthcare has brought it industry wide recognition. At the 2015 Palo Alto Personalized Medicine World Conference it was titled the most promising company[13] in the same year the company became Nvidia’s Emerging Company Summit finalist.[14] Furthermore in 2017 Nvidia listed Insilico Medicine among top 5 social impact AI companies and included Insilico into its Nvidia Inception program.[15] Insilico also found itself on CB Insights list of top ten private anti-aging companies in 2017 as well as the "A.I. 100" rating of most promising AI companies in 2018.[16] Finally, in 2018 the company was granted the Frost & Sullivan North American Technology Innovation Award for advances in aging research and drug development.[17] MIT Technology Review included AI-discovered molecules as one of ten breakthrough technologies in its annual review and highlighted Insilico Medicine's advances and key role in that field.[18][19] In 2020 the company was included in the Fierce 15 list of top biotechnology companies by Fierce Biotechnology.[20]"

13 is an interview with the CEO. It does not mention that Insilico was titled the most promising company
14 is a one line mention that Insilico is a finalist
15 confirms that Insilico is a contestant, but no mention of a final decision
16 is a list of ten companies to watch (meh)
17 could not access
18 a mention
19 a press release be Insilico; MIT did mention that AI-discovered molecules can be considered a breakthrough, but the highlighting of Insilico was by Insilico
20 a list of 15 companies (meh)

My own opinion is that the write-up of this section is not neutral point of view, stressing as it does minor and modest recognitions. Without looking at any other parts of the content Birulik wanted to add, I have concerns that it would be more of the same. David notMD (talk) 15:27, 4 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I also shortened the existing article by 20%, as press releases of financial deals and content written by the CEO not necessarily useful or independent sources for citations. David notMD (talk) 15:36, 4 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Adding photo of a notable person in his article's wikipedia's infobox

How to add photo in infobox about a person, when we grassroot level article creater, editor don't have copyright of the photo ?

Kundan Ravindra Dhayade (talk) 10:53, 4 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, Kundan Ravindra Dhayade. Unless the holder of the copyright of the photo chooses to release the photo under a copyleft licence compatible with Wikipedia (such as WP:CC-BY-SA), the photo cannot be used. Could you take a picture yourself (presumably not in the current pandemic, but once it's lifted)? If you can do that then, you will be free to upload the picture and license it suitably. --ColinFine (talk) 12:10, 4 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Bringing back an inactive WikiProject

Just minutes ago, I changed the status of WikiProject Poultry from semi-active to active. However, all the talkpage banners (e.g. Talk:Gumboro disease) say, instead of start-quality and low-importance, "This page is within the scope of WikiProject Poultry, a project that is currently considered to be inactive." Help. 🐔Chic dat ^ChickenDatabase 10:54, 4 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Chicdat: Have you discussed this somewhere? The last on-topic post to the project talk page was Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Poultry#Help with citation on Broiler, almost 16 months ago. —[AlanM1 (talk)]— 13:35, 4 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Whoops... I did it all of a sudden, without discussion. 🐔Chic dat ^ChickenDatabase 15:09, 4 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Ways to encourage peoples to contribute,write & edit on Wikipedia

How to encourage peoples to contribute, write and improve Wikipedia's articles?

Kundan Ravindra Dhayade (talk) 10:56, 4 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hello Kundan Ravindra Dhayade and welcome to the Teahouse. I'm pleased to hear that you want to encourage others to contribute. You have the right attitude. One thing you can do is to welcome new users on their talk page. You can also encourage them to come to Teahouse with questions while they edit. Finally, I would also encourage them to edit articles that are interesting to them. For example, I'm interested in keeping articles about COVID-19 up to date as info is rapidly changing. They might like different subjects such as sports or science. Hopefully this helps and please let me know if you have any questions and I'll be happy to answer them. Interstellarity (talk) 15:49, 4 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Ways & technique to add language option on your wikipedia article

How to add language options on my newly created wikipedia articles so people can read it in different languages like Marathi etc.?

Kundan Ravindra Dhayade (talk) 11:00, 4 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Kundan Ravindra Dhayade Hello and welcome to the Teahouse. Each language version of Wikipedia is its own project. If you want to make an article available in other languages, you need to go to the other versions of Wikipedia and create it yourself. 331dot (talk) 11:05, 4 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hello sir, You said at Tea house that if you want to add language option on you're newly created wikipedia article you can't add language option but suggested me to create article in Wikipedia version of Marathi language. But sir, many articles have present on wikipedia I saw where on the left side of article. There's a option of languages. When you click on it their a list of languages appears by this link. One can read same article in different wikipedia's version in different languages like Marathi, Hindi etc. Kundan Ravindra Dhayade (talk) 11:13, 4 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Kundan Ravindra Dhayade Those links appear when the article exists on those other versions of Wikipedia. 331dot (talk) 11:15, 4 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Kundan Ravindra Dhayade, you can create an article on Marathi Wikipedia by going to https://mr.wikipedia.org/. To connect the two articles so they appear on the left side bar, you need to make a Wikidata entry on the subject. TryKid (talk) 15:44, 4 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

User seems to be mistaken

https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Contributions&target=Gayor_19

Why is this user referring to everyone as "Hello, Political and economic" and then linking his contribution ? At first, I thought he is mistaking me for someone else but seems he is posting the same to everyone's page. Should I remove his wrongly addressed comment ? Is it allowed. The links are useful though. Cedix (talk) 12:49, 4 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

He seems to be an administrator https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Gayor_19 --Cedix (talk) 12:52, 4 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

No, Cedix, they have a Userbox claiming to be an administrator. They are not one. --ColinFine (talk) 12:55, 4 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I have warned them. I was going to remove the false claims from their user page (of having 7000 edits to their credit as well) but decided to warn them instead. --ColinFine (talk) 12:58, 4 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for the kind reply. LoL, looks like some kind of a joke. It must not be allowed, though. People can be misled to ask help from him, considering him an administrator. Anyway, it is upto Wikipedia editors to deal with them. I am here to understand how to deal with his 'partially' useful comment on my talk page that addresses some one named "politics and economy". Since he has signed his comment with Gayor 19 (talk), so I think that it is not correct for me to rectify his comment. What to do about it now ? Cedix (talk) 13:00, 4 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

The user has been blocked as a sock of a long-term vandal. --bonadea contributions talk 13:47, 4 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Notability - Albums

If an artist is already listed in WIKI on several albums, are they considered notable? Could this justify having their own page with at least a paragraph about them? Thank you!

CAT6128 (talk) 14:20, 4 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

CAT6128, see WP_:BASIC and WP:NARTIST. Being mentioned on WP doesn't matter (in itself). Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 15:50, 4 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Creating new pages

I am here to create profiles of all Marathi film industry renowned celebrities Need guidance in creating page and adding information in systematic, fast and organised way IamShindePratik (talk) 16:19, 4 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hello IamShindePratik and welcome to the Teahouse. Are you intereseted in creating many articles as a hobby, or is it part of your job? Good articles cannot really be made quickly.ThatMontrealIP (talk) 16:40, 4 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Link

Can I link to an article outside wikipedia

Dr.blgreen (talk) 17:22, 4 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Dr.blgreen, if you follow the guidelines at wp:el. In short, don't put links in the body text of an article, only in a separate external links section, and keep all links to a minimum.

However, if you are here to promote your website by adding links to it everywhere, don't. We use nofollow, so it will have no SEO impact, and new links being added are generally reviewed quite thoroughly, and spam will be removed. ~~ Alex Noble/1-2/TRB 17:43, 4 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Thinc articles

Hi all. Can I ask for some advice? I wanted to contribute an article about Thinc, a Deep Learning library (https://thinc.ai/), but then I noticed there's already a Thinc article about another piece of software. I came across an edit about a dead link and the "Notability" note though. Does this mean that this existing article Thinc may be deleted at some point, or will it stay? And if I want to make a new article about the other (DL library) Thinc, where should I put it? Should I then make Thinc a disambiguation page? Sorry for the many questions, and please let me know if I should ask somewhere else. I do have some experience editing WP, but mainly on the NL one. So I wanted to check before I went off and did things the wrong way here.

Paritalo (talk) 17:56, 4 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

The existing article Thinc has been under threat of deletion for nine years, so I wouldn't hold my breath.

If you believe that thinc.ai is notable, in the sense in which that word is used in Wikipedia (click the blue link for details), you can make a draft about it, citing references that establish its notability. Then when it is reviewed and found acceptable for publication, it will be the reviewer's job to assign it a name and to arrange for disambiguation with the other article, if that still exists. Maproom (talk) 18:20, 4 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Guidlines for References addition

Hello, I am a new member for the Wikipedia. I just want to learn that how to add Reference links and citations etc. I tried to add these things (links) on a Wikipedia page but not successfully added because i didn't understand that why the appearance of links are not like the other links on Wikipedia pages. So guide me to add links which gives the common preview on Wikipedia page.

Satyams2000 (talk) 17:57, 4 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

You'll find guidance at Help:Referencing for beginners. --David Biddulph (talk) 18:27, 4 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

On a certain article after talking about two people, in the next sentence it refers to them as the latter and the former. Is this okay and should it be fixed?

TwelfthDoctor39 (talk) 18:15, 4 April 2020 (UTC) The excerpt that I am refering to is from the article about the Doctor Who episode Spyfall.[reply]

The Doctor meets with the Master atop the Eiffel Tower, where the latter reveals that he had the Kasaavins kill spies in order to get the former's attention and claim that Gallifrey has been destroyed.

That seems fine to me, though I personally would have written "... where the Master reveals ... to get the Doctor's attention". There are more important things to worry about. Maproom (talk) 18:24, 4 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Reliable sources

how can we define reliable source Because I tried out Government Websites, Leading News Paper but unfortunately got declined? Thoufiq313 (talk) 18:21, 4 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Thoufiq313 (talk) 18:21, 4 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Is this about Draft:Permude? Maproom (talk) 18:45, 4 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Thoufiq313 has had a Speedy deletion, a proposed Speedy deletion and a draft (User:Thoufiq313/Al Hasa Hospital) declined. Which is the question about? David notMD (talk) 19:23, 4 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Reliable Sources

Gentlemen Thank you for helping us new contributors - My question is who can we define reliable source I have tried out Government websites, Articles of News Agencies. Unfortunately was rejected can anyone expert help me out.

--Thoufiq313 (talk) 18:33, 4 April 2020 (UTC) Thoufiq313 (talk) 18:33, 4 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Thoufiq313, please don't put "helpme" tags on this page. They are intended for use on talk pages (this is technically not a talk page.) Using a "helpme" tag here messes up the formatting and makes it impossible for anyone to answer your question without deleting the tag first.

Also, please don't put your questions inside comment delimiters, . It makes them invisible to readers. Maproom (talk) 18:52, 4 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

You can read up on WP:RS for our reliable sources policy on Wikipedia. Thanks, --Puddleglum ^2.0_{(How's my driving?)} 19:04, 4 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Maproom Thank You, Sir. Please accept my Apologies and Thank you for your kind Help. Do we have any time-space for the books published to use it as a reliable source?Thoufiq313 (talk) 19:11, 4 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Comment on my user talk page

Hello. I am here after a message on my talk page. The content is useful. All right. I guess, now it would be ok to remove the invitation comment on my talk page. Mr.Regalis (talk) 19:21, 4 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia:Indentation talks about colon. But sometimes editors use * instead of : what is the difference ? Mr.Regalis (talk) 19:34, 4 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

A colon at the start of a line gives indentation; an asterisk at the start of the line gives a bullet. --David Biddulph (talk) 19:42, 4 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I see. on this page everyone is using colon for indentation, but then, if you look at the discussion at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Teahouse#Creating_video_tutorials . The editors are using asterisks instead of colon as explained at Wikipedia:Indentation. So how do editors decide when to use colon and when to use asterisks. --Mr.Regalis (talk) 20:06, 4 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

عميل امريكي -العراق

37.238.143.10 (talk) 19:43, 4 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

This is the English language Wikipedia. You may be looking for the Arabic Wikipedia? --David Biddulph (talk) 19:51, 4 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, you have reached the English Wikipedia. You can reach the Arabic Wikipedia here. Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝) 20:06, 4 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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 : A colon at the start of a line gives indentation; an asterisk at the start of the line gives a [[WP:BULLET|bullet]]. --[[User:David Biddulph|David Biddulph]] ([[User talk:David Biddulph|talk]]) 19:42, 4 April 2020 (UTC)
+::I see. on this page everyone is using colon for indentation, but then, if you look at the discussion at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Teahouse#Creating_video_tutorials . The editors are using asterisks instead of colon as explained at [[Wikipedia:Indentation]]. So how do editors decide when to use colon and when to use asterisks. --[[User:Mr.Regalis|Mr.Regalis]] ([[User talk:Mr.Regalis|talk]]) 20:06, 4 April 2020 (UTC)
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