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This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on February 20, 2021.

Thrall-Noldorin

Thrall-Noldorin → Noldor (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]

Not included. Hildeoc (talk) 23:15, 20 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Delete; it is non-canonical (i.e. not Tolkien but derived sources). It is not impossible it could become notable if it gets enough game and TV mentions. Chiswick Chap (talk) 11:41, 21 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia:Holy shit, something really fucked up happened

Wikipedia:Holy shit, something really fucked up happened → Wikipedia:Goings-on (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]

Not sure how this is related to the target. No backlinks in 15 years. 𝟙𝟤𝟯𝟺𝐪𝑤𝒆𝓇𝟷𝟮𝟥𝟜𝓺𝔴𝕖𝖗𝟰 (𝗍𝗮𝘭𝙠) 22:25, 20 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Delete Straightforward. The redirect is very inaccurate and is also an implausible search term. ―NK1406 ^{talk•contribs} 22:31, 20 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Keep but mark as historical or hoax. If this weren't so old I'd say "delete - straightforward" but in some ways it's like a long-lasting hoax. If this had been a similarly useless-but-funny-and-historical link in mainspace, I'd say move it to the Wikipedia: namespace, like we do some ancient hoaxes upon discovery. davidwr/(talk)/(contribs) 00:52, 21 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Strong delete per NK1406. 🐔 Chicdat ^{Bawk to me!} 11:28, 21 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Talcum X

Talcum X → Shaun King (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]

This should be deleted. It appears to be an uncommon derogatory nickname for King that is not referenced in the article at all. AllegedlyHuman (talk) 21:21, 20 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Delete I agree that the nickname is derogatory and I was unable to locate any reliable sources that referred to King by this name. ―NK1406 ^{talk•contribs} 22:46, 20 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Speedy delete per WP:G10. --Un assiolo (talk) 14:30, 21 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Ôzaru

Ôzaru → Dragon Ball (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
Oozaru → Dragon Ball (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] Added. -- Tavix ^(talk) 21:16, 20 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Ozaru → Dragon Ball (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] Added. -- Tavix ^(talk) 21:16, 20 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Golden Oozaru → Dragon Ball (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] Added. -- Tavix ^(talk) 21:16, 20 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

This has nothing to do with Dragon Ball. 122.61.73.44 (talk) 06:11, 21 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Keep. This might not be the best target—it is mentioned at several Dragon Ball articles—but the nominator clearly has not done their research. Oozaru is the Japanese name for the Great Ape that Saiyans, including Goku, in Dragon Ball can transform into. Ô is just an alternate way of representing a long vowel (the "oo" in "Oozaru") in Japanese; Ō is more commonly used instead. Ss112 07:18, 21 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Delete it and all the other iterations (Oozaru, Ozaru, Golden Oozaru). It is mentioned in several articles but there is no coverage of this specific topic, which has been the status quo for about 11 years. —Xezbeth (talk) 12:06, 21 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Retarget to Goku as mentioned there, and add a hatnote. Keeping it with Dragon Ball franchise article is also okay but may need an {{R without mention}} AngusW🐶🐶F (bark • sniff) 18:31, 22 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, _signed,Rosguill ^talk 17:40, 28 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per Xezbeth. Search results will have to do unless/until we can explain the term in a logical place. I'm not familiar with the franchise, but it sounds like AngusWOOF's suggestion would be like redirecting "lightsaber" to "Luke Skywalker". --BDD (talk) 15:33, 9 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, CycloneYoris ^talk! 05:55, 10 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: I'm not a fan of third relists, but the other redirects Xezbeth mentioned ought to be added to this discussion.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, -- Tavix ^(talk) 21:09, 20 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Comment Oozaru was a 22kb article before being redirected in 2010. If the concern is a lack of coverage, (some of) this content could be restored in some form. -- Tavix ^(talk) 21:16, 20 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Trumparoo

Trumparoo → 2021 storming of the United States Capitol#Deaths and injuries (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]

There is currently no mention of this website in the main body of the article. There is one reference that says "Founder of site Trumparoo among dead at Capitol", but I don't think that is enough of a connection to sustain a redirect to this target. -- Tavix ^(talk) 20:55, 20 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Delete If the Trumparoo website ever becomes notable (doubtful, seeing as how it is now shut down) an article can be created for it. --Guy Macon (talk) 21:53, 20 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per nom not notable at this point.Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk) 22:14, 20 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per nom. WWGB (talk) 06:57, 21 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Indigenous American

Indigenous American → Indigenous peoples of the Americas (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]

Indigenous Americans → Indigenous peoples of the Americas (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]

I think this should be disambiguated, as the term may refer to Native Americans in the United States more specifically and Indigenous peoples of the Americas more broadly Bangalamania (talk) 20:34, 20 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

We already have a disambiguation page at Native Americans that covers both of the above topics, among others. It may be an appropriate target. Whatever we decide here should apply to the redirect at Indigenous Americans, too. - Eureka Lott 00:32, 21 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect it and Indigenous Americans to the disambiguation page Native Americans. oncamera _{(talk page)} 08:47, 21 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Note I've added Indigenous Americans to the nomination per the above comments. Thryduulf (talk) 12:56, 21 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Divinium

Divinium → Call of Duty (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]

Fictional element used in the Call of Duty series but not mentioned at the target, delete unless a justification can be provided. _signed,Rosguill ^talk 20:14, 20 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Consider procedurally closing and re-listing with other fictional things in Category:Fictional materials which are redirects to pages that do not mention them. Or, be WP:BOLD and add a mention of this in the target, making the argument from deletion "disappearium". davidwr/(talk)/(contribs) 00:56, 21 February 2021 (UTC) Tweaked davidwr/(talk)/(contribs) 20:00, 21 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Retarget Hello guys, I accidentally put it in Moscovium and didn't redirect it to Category:Fictional materials. I have made around 10 Redirects and I don't know how the redirect process works. So I would say retarget to the Category Davidwr said and someone should tell me either in this or the talk page about how the redirecting of Fictional and Non-Fiction combined together. --StaleGuy22 (talk) 19:01, 21 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Zyz, Italy

Zyz, Italy → Soluntum (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]

Not mentioned at the target or its wikilinked articles on other language projects, delete unless a justification can be provided. _signed,Rosguill ^talk 20:04, 20 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Rosguill: the source is on page on itwiki. Borteddd (talk) 16:23, 21 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Borteddd, the cited source for that claim ([1]) gives the name as "Ziz" and doesn't appear terribly reliable. I tried searching for both "Zyz" and "Ziz" together with a few terms related to Phoenicians on Google Scholar and couldn't find any relevant results. _signed,Rosguill ^talk 17:43, 21 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Drug ring

Drug ring → Financial crime (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]

Not mentioned at target. Retargeting to Drug cartel might be a bit more helpful. 𝟙𝟤𝟯𝟺𝐪𝑤𝒆𝓇𝟷𝟮𝟥𝟜𝓺𝔴𝕖𝖗𝟰 (𝗍𝗮𝘭𝙠) 19:28, 20 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Retarget to Drug cartel or similar drug+organized-crime target. That, or to an article about drugs which have ring-shaped chemical structures . davidwr/(talk)/(contribs) 00:59, 21 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Office under the United States

Office under the United States → Officer of the United States (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]

Like the one I just nominated, not mentioned in article, unlikely alternate name. Onel5969 ^{TT me} 17:14, 20 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Keep. This is in fact mentioned in the lead, quoting a Justice Department opinion: "All offices under the United States and all officers of the United States are created and filled according to the Appointments Clause of the United States Constitution." The quote is a legally significant memo, so is correctly included in the article. 50.248.234.77 (talk) 18:03, 20 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Officer under the United States

Officer under the United States → Officer of the United States (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]

Not mentioned in target, unlikely alternate name Onel5969 ^{TT me} 17:13, 20 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Keep. A quick web search shows a diversity of different uses for this terminology relating to the more legally significant term "officer of the United States". Even though this phrasing doesn't have a fixed meaning in itself, it's still useful as a search term for the article that discusses the correct terminology. 50.248.234.77 (talk) 18:00, 20 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Llanfairpwllgwyngllgogerychwyrndrobwllynyngofod

Llanfairpwllgwyngllgogerychwyrndrobwllynyngofod → Super Furry Animals (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]

Eeeehhhhhhh This seems to be a misspelling of Llanfairpwllgwyngyllgogerychwyrndrobwllllandysiliogogogoch, and should redirect there if kept, but I don't think it's any more likely than any random syllables appended to "Llanfairpwllgwyngyllgogerychwyrndrobwll", and this one even lacks a y in "pwllgwyngyll". 𝟙𝟤𝟯𝟺𝐪𝑤𝒆𝓇𝟷𝟮𝟥𝟜𝓺𝔴𝕖𝖗𝟰 (𝗍𝗮𝘭𝙠) 16:49, 20 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Delete. although the band did release a record called Llanfairpwllgwyngyllgogerychwyrndrobwllllantysiliogogogoch, this spelling does not appear in the article, and there is no reason to assume that it it a probable missspelling of the band's record title. IdreamofJeanie (talk) 16:53, 20 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Comment: The name given in the band's article was incorrect. The song's title is "Llanfairpwllgwyngyllgogerychwyndrobwllantysiliogogogochynygofod" (though it's given by the BBC source as "Llanfairpwllgwyngyllgogerychyndrobwllantysiliogogogochynygofod"). This redirect is still a typo of both, though. --Paul_012 (talk) 17:08, 20 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- Actually, the spelling in the nominated redirect "Llanfairpwllgwyngllgogerychwyrndrobwllynyngofod" appears to be a fairly common misspelling, reproduced by the BBC[2] ~~and the Guardian.[3]~~ --Paul_012 (talk) 17:12, 20 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. While the band's song is fully known as "Llanfairpwllgwyngyllgogerychwyndrobwllantysiliogogogochynygofod", "Llanfairpwllgwyngllgogerychwyrndrobwllynyngofod" is not a possible or likely search term. Seventyfiveyears (talk) 19:41, 20 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Delete as implausible misspelling. ―NK1406 ^{talk•contribs} 22:27, 20 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Sususs Amongus

The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more redirects. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the discussion was Speedy delete per WP:CSD#G3. Thryduulf (talk) 17:02, 21 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Sususs Amongus → Valentinian II (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]

Sussus Amongus → Valentinian II (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]

Not an alternate name for the subject of the target article, just a meme relating to the game Among Us that will be forgotten in a year or less. This adds nothing to the encyclopedia, so it should be deleted. 50.248.234.77 (talk) 16:06, 20 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Delete both. Non-notable meme, not mentioned anywhere on Wikipedia. 86.23.109.101 (talk) 16:25, 20 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - absolutely no connection to the target beyond "memes lol". ƒirefly ( t · c ) 17:52, 20 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Delete both We’ve had a spate of Sussus Amongus meme vandalism recently and this is just more of the same. --Malcolmxl5 (talk) 00:33, 21 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. Was going to say it sounds like a hoax, but evidently someone with more knowledge of memes beat me to it! P Aculeius (talk) 12:51, 21 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Speedy delete per wp:g3 and wp:g5. Created by an account-hopping vandal who has done the same in Valentinian I already. Avilich (talk) 14:59, 21 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page.

Public organization

Public organization → State agencies of Thailand#Public organizations (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]

I created this redirect to State agencies of Thailand in 2015, as it is a specific legal term in Thailand, but upon reconsideration it's not specific enough in general usage. Proper uses are now linked to Public organization (Thailand), leaving incorrect incoming links. I'm not sure though what would be a better target. Organization? Public sector? Or should it just be deleted? Paul_012 (talk) 15:56, 20 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Maybe Public sector would be a suitable target? 86.23.109.101 (talk) 16:42, 20 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect to Public sector. This seems to be the most relevant article from my understanding of the terminology. ―NK1406 ^{talk•contribs} 22:57, 20 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Brutality-killing

Brutality-killing → Violence (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]

Unlikely search term due to the unnecessary hyphenation and broken English sentence structure. This redirect doesn not seem to be synonymous with it's target to me, if I were to search for this I'd expect to end up at something like Killing. A google search turns up a load of results related to Police brutality, but I don't think that's an appropriate target either. 86.23.109.101 (talk) 15:54, 20 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Delete Newly created, no incoming links from articles, confusing target. Possible targets might include homocide - but that is pretty broad, or murder - but some brutality killings might be called "acts of war" rather than "murder" per se, so best to delete. davidwr/(talk)/(contribs) 17:48, 20 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Wikilabs

Wikilabs → Wikimedia Foundation (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]

This might be referring to WMF Labs, but seems to have additional meanings, including a Wikimedia project proposal and an IT solutions provider. Either retarget to Wikipedia:Wikimedia Cloud Services, where the other WMF Labs redirects point at, or delete as ambiguous. 𝟙𝟤𝟯𝟺𝐪𝑤𝒆𝓇𝟷𝟮𝟥𝟜𝓺𝔴𝕖𝖗𝟰 (𝗍𝗮𝘭𝙠) 14:49, 20 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Ciley Myrus

Ciley Myrus → Miley Cyrus (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]

Previous RfDs for this redirect and similar redirects:

Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2013 November 22 § Ciley Myrus – Delete Milay, keep the others

This redirect is a spoonerism, not a likely or plausible search term. I propose deletion under deletion criteria 3 and criteria 8 of Wikipedia:Redirect#Reasons for deleting unless justification can be provided. Seventyfiveyears (talk) 14:35, 20 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Delete: per nominator. 𝟙𝟤𝟯𝟺𝐪𝑤𝒆𝓇𝟷𝟮𝟥𝟜𝓺𝔴𝕖𝖗𝟰 (𝗍𝗮𝘭𝙠) 14:42, 20 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Nelete per dominator. Dominicmgm (talk) 19:30, 20 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Group of psychic communicators from the Warhammer 40,000 universe that aren't discussed at the target article. The article content in the page history ended up in Psyker, which was redirected in 2019 following an AfD nomination. They have a name drop in Rogue Trader (role-playing game)#Career paths but I don't think there's enough there to justify a redirect 86.23.109.101 (talk) 11:08, 20 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Uriel Ventris

Uriel Ventris → Warhammer 40,000 (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]

A Space Marine from the warhammer 40,000 universe that isn't mentioned anywhere in the encyclopaedia. There was an article here for about 20 days in 2010. If this is kept it might be better targeting Space Marine (Warhammer 40,000), but I don't see the value in pointing this to an article where this character is not mentioned. 86.23.109.101 (talk) 10:45, 20 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Navis Nobilite

Navis Nobilite → Warhammer 40,000 (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]

Navis Nobilitae → Warhammer 40,000 (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]

Faction of ship navigators from the warhammer 40,000 universe not mentioned in the target article or anywhere else in wikipedia. There was an article at Navis Nobilite for about 9 months in 2008 which was redirected due to having no third party sources and insufficent notability for a stand alone article 86.23.109.101 (talk) 10:35, 20 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Void shields

Void shields → Warhammer 40,000#Void shields (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]

Non-notable fictional technology from the warhammer 40,000 universe not mentioned at the target article or anywhere else with relaton to 40K. The article content in the page history ended up in Equipment of the Imperium in Warhammer 40,000 which was deleted in 2011 following an AfD nomination. There are a few articles on force fields in fiction that might be suitable targets (e.g. Force field (fiction)) but they're not discussed in there by this name either 86.23.109.101 (talk) 10:09, 20 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

State farm

State farm → Sovkhoz (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]

I propose changing the primary topic for state farm to State Farm. Having it redirect to Sovkhoz just seems bizarre to me. As a criteria, Sovkhoz received 2,255 pageviews (30 days) and the insurance company received 16,580 pageviews (30 days). I propose changing the redirect to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/State_Farm AntoineHound (talk) 04:03, 20 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Comment: couldn't we make this a disambiguation page? E.g. State farm may refer to: State Farm or Sovkhoz? WhoAteMyButter (📨│📝) 05:03, 20 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
I cannot see who has made this comment but there is already a disambiguation page that lists many different state farm variants. AntoineHound (talk) 05:14, 20 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
WhoAteMyButter, please remember to sign. ◢ Ganbaruby!  (Say hi!) 06:00, 20 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect per nom. Anyone putting "State farm" in the search box is almost certainly looking for the insurance company. "State farms" or "State-owned farm" should go to Sovkhoz. I'm also not a huge fan of distinguishing topics by capitalization unless absolutely necessary. ◢ Ganbaruby!  (Say hi!) 06:16, 20 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Retarget per nom. It's quite rare that different capitalisations of the same word should target different articles, and the insurance company is the clear primary topic here. 86.23.109.101 (talk) 11:56, 20 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Retarget to State Farm. If the reader is not looking for the insurance company, the State Farm article has a friendly hatnote at the top to help them find what they are looking for. The insurance company is definitely the primary topic. ―NK1406 ^{talk•contribs} 23:13, 20 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

S. Taylor (cricketer)

S. Taylor (cricketer) → Category:English cricketers (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]

Not a useful XNR; a reader does not learn anything about the person from the list at the category. There is a mention at List of English cricketers (1841–1850)#T, so I suggest retargeting there. 𝟙𝟤𝟯𝟺𝐪𝑤𝒆𝓇𝟷𝟮𝟥𝟜𝓺𝔴𝕖𝖗𝟰 (𝗍𝗮𝘭𝙠) 07:26, 5 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Retarget as suggested - this is the best target in this case, although he also appears on List of English cricketers (1851–1860) and List of English cricketers (1861–1863) - the later of which needs sorting out at some point. Blue Square Thing (talk) 09:50, 5 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Delete as ambiguous; there are a number of far more prominent cricketers named S. Taylor, like Sarah Taylor and Stafanie Taylor. I can't find an appropriate target besides the search page. — J947 ‡ ^{message ⁓ edits} 03:58, 8 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, _signed,Rosguill ^talk 18:57, 12 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Delete as ambiguous. Stuart Taylor (Stuart Taylor (cricketer)), S Taylor, Sarah Taylor (Sarah Taylor (cricketer)) and Stanley Taylor (Stanley Taylor (cricketer)) all pass WP:NCRICKET. Narky Blert (talk) 18:20, 14 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, CycloneYoris ^talk! 01:55, 20 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Not sure retargeting was needed. I agree as the nominator that the redirect is quite ambiguous. 𝟙𝟤𝟯𝟺𝐪𝑤𝒆𝓇𝟷𝟮𝟥𝟜𝓺𝔴𝕖𝖗𝟰 (𝗍𝗮𝘭𝙠) 19:30, 20 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Delete The other alternative would be disambiguation, but in this case that could get rather messy, so it is probably best to delete. ―NK1406 ^{talk•contribs} 23:07, 20 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

List of former United States presidents who ran for office after leaving the presidency

List of former United States presidents who ran for office after leaving the presidency → List of presidents of the United States#Subsequent public office (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]

Similar to a recent RfD discussion, the section targeted by this redirect was removed and the content is no longer found in the article. The information indicated by this redirect is currently divided between List of presidents of the United States by other offices held and Elections lost by presidents of the United States, and both articles involve cases both before and after service as president. I recommend deletion unless the originally targeted section is restored or made to exist elsewhere. Mdewman6 (talk) 01:45, 20 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Restore article to this revision. Either that or add the information to some other article. Drdpw redirected the article in 2016 with the edit summary Redirecting page to a section of the List of Presidents of the United States article that contains this information; care was taken to ensure that no information was lost during the process. What was left of the information was removed by Ivar the Boneful, pointing in his edit summary to an article that as far as I can tell has never existed. — J947 ‡ ^{message ⁓ edits} 02:00, 20 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Looks like a typo for List of presidents of the United States by other offices held. Ivar the Boneful (talk) 02:09, 20 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Restore and expand the article at this title. Since its redirection, there has been substantial additional reporting on the subject. BD2412 T 02:07, 20 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Change target to List of presidents of the United States by other offices held and expand that article to include failed attempts to gain office. Ivar the Boneful (talk) 02:09, 20 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- I think a freestanding article is a better option, as we would be addressing efforts with varying levels of success, from giving up early in the process to becoming the nominee of their own or another party. BD2412 T 02:17, 20 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Fordmil Meansbad

Fordmil Meansbad → LazyTown (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]

Not mentioned at the target. Dominicmgm (talk) 23:46, 12 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Retarget to List of LazyTown episodes#ep27 where it is mentioned (either spelling – Fordmil/Fordmill – is correct or at least plausible). — J947 ‡ ^{message ⁓ edits} 00:41, 13 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, CycloneYoris ^talk! 01:06, 20 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Annam Tower

Annam Tower → Annam (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]

While Annam was an old name of Vietnam, there is no such thing as Annam Tower. This should be deleted. Greenknight dv (talk) 04:30, 5 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Retarget to Colonial exhibition. There was a "Annam Tower" in the 1906 exhibition in France, but we don't have an article on that specific event yet, so retarget to the list article where it's pictured. 86.23.109.101 (talk) 09:10, 5 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Great point! Marseille colonial exhibition (1906) could be good target too if this article is created. Greenknight dv (talk) 04:55, 6 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I wonder whether it's an alternative name for Four_Great_Treasures_of_Annam#Bao_Thien_Tower? PamD 10:23, 5 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I think it would be fine if there is any source calls Báo Thiên Tower "Annam Tower" or "Tháp An Nam". Otherwise, we couldn't be sure. Greenknight dv (talk) 04:55, 6 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Delete As far as I can tell, the tower depicted at File:Expo coloniale 1906.jpg is not actually called "Annam Tower". The French description says "la tour de l'Annam" – it isn't capitalized, implying it's just a generic Annam tower, not a specific tower called "Annam Tower". References to an "Annam Tower" are probably a result of WP:CITOGENESIS; all mentions of the tower that I've found on Google come from the Wikipedia redirect or from the description of the aforementioned image on Commons, meaning that no one will come to Wikipedia looking for an article on "Annam Tower". The redirect should be deleted, even if an article on the Marseille colonial exhibition is created. --Un assiolo (talk) 19:53, 6 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- I have now changed the file's description on Commons to say "Annam tower" instead of "Annam Tower", in line with the original French description. I also want add that the redirect should not be retargeted to Four_Great_Treasures_of_Annam#Bao_Thien_Tower, as proposed by PamD, unless a source can be found where the Bao Thien Tower is referred to as the Annam Tower. --Un assiolo (talk) 20:22, 6 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, _signed,Rosguill ^talk 18:55, 12 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Retarget per IP. French does not usually capitalise generic parts of proper names, and no inference can be drawn from failure to do so. La Tour d'Annam would look weird. To pick a really obvious example, la tour Eiffel in French WP. Narky Blert (talk) 18:29, 14 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- Fair enough, but this still doesn't establish the notability of the Annam tower. It was just one of many exhibits at this colonial exhibition (see for example the Cambodian pavilion and the Laos pavilion mentioned at fr:Exposition coloniale de Marseille (1906)). These exhibits are not notable enough even for a redirect. They are highly implausible search terms. It would be like having redirects for every booth and every event at a trade fair. --Un assiolo (talk) 18:43, 18 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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J. Barker

J. Barker → Category:North v South cricketers (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]

Not a useful XNR; a reader does not learn anything about the person from the list at the category. Does not seem to have a mention on Wikipedia. Delete to encourage article creation, unless an appropriate target can be found. Per the backlinks, this also seems to be ambiguous with a painter. 𝟙𝟤𝟯𝟺𝐪𝑤𝒆𝓇𝟷𝟮𝟥𝟜𝓺𝔴𝕖𝖗𝟰 (𝗍𝗮𝘭𝙠) 08:30, 4 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Delete There's no use of a redirect to a category.Less Unless (talk) 16:41, 5 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Weak retarget to Barker (surname)#D–K, where there are five J. Barkers mentioned, plus four disambiguation pages with many more. Although none of them seem to be cricketers, this is still better than redirecting to a category where there's just a circular link. Then again, there may or may not be a primary topic for that term... Regards, SONIC⁶⁷⁸ 05:29, 7 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Retarget or separately disambiguate. It would be particularly useful to have a separate disambiguation page at this title if there are multiple people primarily known as "J. Barker", or if there are people whose given name would abbreviate to "J. Barker" but who go by a middle name or otherwise might not show up at Barker (surname) as starting with a J. BD2412 T 16:57, 20 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Omegalul

Omegalul → LOL#Variants (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]

Not mentioned at target. 𝟙𝟤𝟯𝟺𝐪𝑤𝒆𝓇𝟷𝟮𝟥𝟜𝓺𝔴𝕖𝖗𝟰 (𝗍𝗮𝘭𝙠) 18:11, 12 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Keep I've added a mention. Elliot321 (talk | contribs) 18:47, 12 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Keep; the mention might be undue weight but that's not for RfD to decide. — J947 ‡ ^{message ⁓ edits} 21:11, 12 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Delete, it would be WP:UNDUE to put on the "LOL" page since it is an emote limited to a single service (and unofficially, at that). Since it's not an official emote, it couldn't be located on the Twitch page either._{ZXCVBNM (TALK)} 10:26, 14 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep I don't understand Zxcvbnm's point. We have what is definitely a "variant" documented in a reliable source. The Kotaku article even mentions that "omegalul has now similarly entered common usage". As far as I'm concerned, people use it and it's sourced, so it should stay. ◢ Ganbaruby!  (Say hi!) 06:08, 20 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Keep I agree with J947 that as long as the mention is in the target article the redirect should stay. ―NK1406 ^{talk•contribs} 23:05, 20 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]