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Malaysia Airlines destinations article list is showing Moscow and New York-JFK airport as terminated routes, the airline has never served Russia nor JFK airport ever, they served New York only through Newark airport, my edits to remove the content despite edit summary were reverted and challenged, the citation added for JFK is incorrect, they only served EWR airport which is listed in the article. How involved are project editors in keeping track of airline route happenings and being informed enough to know that online sources can also be wrong at times. 139.190.160.152 (talk) 17:47, 2 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

The citation is a reliable source, so the onus is on you to provide a source that states the listed source is wrong. Did they publish a correction? Can you find a source that shows they served Newark? My first thought would be a timetable or OAG from shortly before the supposed ending date given by the source that shows EWR being served, not JFK. -- Hawaiian717 (talk) 18:32, 2 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
There is already Newark listed in the destinations with citation confirming it, you can pose the query at aviation discussion boards hundreds will confirm they only served EWR, why go far look up history for KL airport and MH destinations article here dating back a few years to confirm through edits made, also check with Malaysian Wings aviation forum by joining or browsing it, just to make sure, isn't this what savvy editors do when being associated with the project? 139.190.160.152 (talk) 19:16, 2 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
MH served Newark from Kuala Lumpur via Stockholm but that service ceased in October of 2009. Provide a source (or a past timetable) saying that Malaysia Airlines has indeed served Moscow or JFK. 68.119.73.36 (talk) 19:32, 2 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Are you telling me? 139.190.160.152 (talk) 00:57, 13 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
MAS did codeshare to Moscow with Transaero according to [1] but didnt operate the service itself. MilborneOne (talk) 19:54, 2 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
So c/s can be listed in destinations? 139.190.160.152 (talk) 00:53, 13 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Internet forums such as Malaysian Wings or the Airliners.net forums are not reliable sources for Wikipedia. -- Hawaiian717 (talk) 22:06, 2 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Ironic you should say that with such conviction considering the topic at hand. 139.190.160.152 (talk) 00:24, 13 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Iraqi Airways - Malmo

Does anyone know if Malmo is a destination served by Iraqi Airways? I know that they operate flights between Baghdad and Gatwick with a stop in Malmo but I am guessing it is a tech or fuel stop. Malmo is not bookable on their website nor it does not list in the destination dropbox on the booking engine or timetables. Also, Malmo Airport's website does not list Iraqi Airways as airline serving the airport. 68.119.73.36 (talk) 06:42, 14 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

A photo of their flight at MMX states that it carried five passengers to the city at airliners.net. 139.190.160.152 (talk) 08:46, 9 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
however, airliners.net is a forum and cannot be used as reliable source for wiki. It was served as a tech stop only. 68.119.73.36 (talk) 04:55, 29 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Not referring to forum, the photographer at Malmo stated that as caption under his photo, the flight could be carrying passengers the return leg might seem a tad inconvenient via London but for a country, and airline with problems not a big deal. 139.190.160.152 (talk) 16:49, 7 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

National Air Cargo and National Airlines (N8)

Should National Air Cargo and National Airlines (N8) have separate articles? The former is based in New York and the latter is based in Florida (formerly in Michigan). They are sister companies but currently share the same Wikipedia article.

Thanks WhisperToMe (talk) 19:28, 29 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

That depends. The company structure must be evaluated. Without having done any such research (yet), to me, it looks more like two branding names (of one company, so no need for two articles).--FoxyOrange (talk) 19:45, 29 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
It would clearly make the articles cleaner. Do they both share the N8 code? If so disambiguation would need to be addressed in a split. Vegaswikian (talk) 19:47, 29 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
I'm trying to find about the code. The two have separate websites: http://www.nationalaircargo.com/ and http://nationalairlines.aero/ - The website says that National Airlines is: "is a wholly-owned entity of National Air Cargo Holdings, Inc." - Crain's Detroit Business says "National Airlines is the sister company of Orchard Park, N.Y.-based National Air Cargo." WhisperToMe (talk) 21:44, 29 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
http://www.iata.org/publications/Pages/code-search.aspx says that N8 (airline prefix code 416) is assigned to "National Air Cargo Group, Inc. dba National Airlines" - The directory does not list a separate code for the airlines. http://www.avcodes.co.uk/airlcodesearch.asp says that N8 is to "National Airlines / National Air Cargo Group, Inc. d/b/a National Airlines" is to the ICAO code NCR, callsign "National Cargo" WhisperToMe (talk) 03:51, 30 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Request for comment on Merger Proposal

There is a request to merge the UAL Corporation article into the United Continental Holdings article. (>>>Discussion Here<<<): Nominator rational: The articles suggest that they are the same company, just renamed after the merger. Please add your input. GenQuest "Talk to Me" 13:52, 30 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

ACT Airlines becomes MyCargo, article title needs changing

ACT have phased out all of their ACT branded A300 fleet, they now only operate two 747-400F in HNA group MyCargo branding, the process has been on since 2011 when HNA took stake in ACT, website also changed http://www.mycargo.aero/ please update article accordingly. 139.190.160.152 (talk) 08:55, 9 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I've moved the article to MyCargo Airlines and updated the text. Someone still needs to go in and update the logo. -- Hawaiian717 (talk) 17:19, 9 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

MIT study on air service in US

The WSJ has an article summarizing the study:

WhisperToMe (talk) 23:22, 9 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

JAL domestic article

Was this really needed rather than be a section in JAL article? 139.190.160.152 (talk) 00:21, 13 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Turkish Airlines destinations

Hello. Can someone please make 217.129.59.220 (talk · contribs) understand their addition of a new destination is not properly backed by a reliable source. So far, I've made two reversion to the article, and don't wan't to be involved in a WP:3RR episode. I've alredy explained the IP the reasons for my reversion at my talk page, yet s(he) keeps ignoring any arguments. Thanks.--Jetstreamer Talk 16:29, 1 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Saha Airlines

this airline is still active according to this site which updates information monthly http://www.ch-aviation.ch/portal/airline.php?cha=IRZ wiki article states its shut down online articles claim same, but it seems they have stopped flying their 707s which were the only active aircraft in their fleet, and are operating A300s for another airline. 139.190.160.152 (talk) 16:56, 7 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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