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. Buster Seven Talk 12:32, 19 June 2015 (UTC) Links have been added, but the link has been removed again . The problem in the language of the site? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Quatrozan (talk • contribs) 15:19, 24 June 2015 (UTC)

Comparison of network monitoring systems

Hello, Kuru! I need your help. I was edited page "Comparison of network monitoring systems" in which the unit has been placed on our monitoring system. I would like to clarify why you rolled back ? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Quatrozan (talk • contribs) 14:12, 24 June 2015 (UTC)

Certainly; there's a notice at the top of the page when you edit that list which explains the inclusion criteria in detail. Will be happy to talk you through any question you have after reading that. Kuru (talk) 14:22, 24 June 2015 (UTC)

Links have been added, but the link has been removed again . The problem in the language of the site? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Quatrozan (talk • contribs) 15:34, 24 June 2015 (UTC)

It does not seem like you read the material I pointed you to: "All entries that point to non-existent articles or external links will be deleted." The primary issue is that you are creating an entry that does not have an independent wikipedia article created for it. This will require you create that article, and to demonstrate that the product is notable by our standards, usually significant coverage in third party sources. Kuru (talk) 16:00, 24 June 2015 (UTC)

Hello Kuru, I have replied to your requests at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Marketing_performance_measurement_and_management#comments I look forward to hearing from you at your earliest convenience. Thank you, Clearaction — Preceding unsigned comment added by Clearaction (talk • contribs) 00:45, 9 July 2015 (UTC)

User:Vandulizm remover

Since you dealt with User:Vandulizm remover before, would you mind revoking their talk page access? They're using it to post insults and slurs. Agtx (talk) 18:40, 10 July 2015 (UTC)

Done - hid the revisions as well. Kuru (talk) 18:44, 10 July 2015 (UTC)

Nanorep link to "Customer Experience" removal

Hi,

I've added today a link from nanoRep to the "Customer Experience" topic, the link was http://www.nanorep.com/how-to-measure-customer-experience.

Here are the current warning:

This article's tone or style may not reflect the encyclopedic tone used on Wikipedia. (November 2012) This article needs additional citations for verification. (February 2013) This article contains content that is written like an advertisement. (February 2013)

This link provides quality information, it's not spam, the article provides real value to visitors.

Learning how to measure customer experience in my opinion is going to add real value to the topic. Read the article, and please reconsider the removal of the link.

Best regards,

Yaniv — Preceding unsigned comment added by Yaniv676 (talk • contribs) 22:34, 15 July 2015 (UTC)

It's really bad content marketing, no thanks. Say, what's your relationship to PhilipRanky (talk · contribs)? Kuru (talk) 23:29, 15 July 2015 (UTC)

About SAFE Trade/Active Portfolio Service Details on Wikipedia

Hi Kuru,

We are new to Wikipedia. We do not intend to violate any norms of Wikipedia. We just want to claim that we have first Robo Advisor for equity investment. Our feature is close enough to Betterment, so, we also wanted to be featured on the same line.

We shared the links which were white papers and those links had no relation with our commercial activity (except that we mentioned we have one paid service). Please guide us what to do in order to be published on Wikipedia just like Betterment.

Thanks & Regards, anubhajyoti

You've added links to the front pages of multiple commercial services for no reason other than to promote them. I am not here to help you spam your product. Kuru (talk) 11:46, 22 July 2015 (UTC)

FYI

Just FYI. Bishonen | talk 22:55, 26 July 2015 (UTC).

Your wrong stupid

Your Vandilising carlos slim wiki your wrong his net worth is not 65.2 idiot. Slycooperr21 (talk) 12:58, 31 July 2015 (UTC)

Alas, the reliable source provided on the page uses this number. If you'd like to provide an alternate source, please feel free to do so. Until then, altering sourced material on biographies of living persons to an inaccurate number is a really bad idea. Kuru (talk) 13:03, 31 July 2015 (UTC)

Interested in Identifying Open Proxies...

Hello there Kuru! I've been watching the page Wikipedia:WikiProject on open proxies for some time now and saw your active participation there. I've also read the guide Wikipedia:WikiProject on open proxies/Guide to checking open proxies although I got some idea, still I feel new. So, can you train (mentor) me to identify open proxies? As I am an Account creator, this training would also help me there. Any help is much appreciated! Regards—☮JAaron95 ^Talk 05:35, 28 August 2015 (UTC)

That link isn't a bad outline; let me put something together this weekend and I'll e-mail it to you - mainly just lessons learned, etc. Kuru (talk) 11:48, 28 August 2015 (UTC)

Great!! Thank you!!—☮JAaron95 ^Talk 12:00, 28 August 2015 (UTC)

Just to remind you in case you forgot. Please ignore if you're busy. Regards—☮JAaron95 ^Talk 14:41, 1 September 2015 (UTC)

Have not forgotten - just did not have more than a 10 minute span free this weekend. :( Will finish it up when I get a chance. 00:46, 3 September 2015 (UTC)

*cough* *cough* —☮JAaron95 ^Talk 17:22, 27 September 2015 (UTC)

I understand you've been busy lately and I don't want to trouble you. I'll ask someone else's help. Thanks for your consideration. Regards—☮JAaron95 ^Talk 17:59, 13 October 2015 (UTC)

Leadership

Kuru regarding the Leadership wiki you edited the contribution cited Rachel Adeniji is notable and comprehensive connection among debates on leadership that ties in the church and education without this notable creditoon the article lacks understanding of simple theories pls revert article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 213.205.251.29 (talk • contribs)

It appears that you're adding material sourced to a non-notable and self-published book/essay. You may want to use the article's talk page to justify your position that the material is notable, and you will need to find a source that is reliable. Kuru (talk) 12:31, 29 August 2015 (UTC)

Archive

I changed to Wewobanjsufukulipo

I changed my username under wikipedia right to be forgotten. The article was written 8 years ago when I was very young. I would like to distance myself from it. Given that the article is very discussion is very old I am not sure of the value of that conversation. However if you feel the conversation is important to you or others please can you maintain it with my updated username as per wikipedia right to be forgotten rules.

Your cooperationa nd support is much appreciated. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Wewobanjsufukulipo (talk • contribs) 16:59, 2 September 2015 (UTC)

Makes sense. Kuru (talk) 00:45, 3 September 2015 (UTC)

==Invitation to WikiProject Brands

Hello, Kuru. You are invited to join WikiProject Brands, a WikiProject and resource dedicated to improving Wikipedia's coverage of brands and brand-related topics. To join the project, just add your name to the member list. Lucasstar1 (talk) 00:02, 4 September 2015 (UTC)

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Invitation to WikiProject Brands

Hello, Kuru. You are invited to join WikiProject Brands, a WikiProject and resource dedicated to improving Wikipedia's coverage of brands and brand-related topics. To join the project, just add your name to the member list. Lucasstar1 (talk) 00:02, 4 September 2015 (UTC)

Invitation to subscribe to the edit filter mailing list

Hi, as a user in the edit filter manager user group we wanted to let you know about the new wikipedia-en-editfilters mailing list. As part of our recent efforts to improve the use of edit filters on the English Wikipedia it has been established as a venue for internal discussion by edit filter managers regarding private filters (those only viewable by administrators and edit filter managers) and also as a means by which non-admins can ask questions about hidden filters that wouldn't be appropriate to discuss on-wiki. As an edit filter manager we encourage you to subscribe; the more users we have in the mailing list the more useful it will be to the community. If you subscribe we will send a short email to you through Wikipedia to confirm your subscription, but let us know if you'd prefer another method of verification. I'd also like to take the opportunity to invite you to contribute to the proposed guideline for edit filter use at WP:Edit filter/Draft and the associated talk page. Thank you! Sam Walton (talk) and MusikAnimal ^talk 18:22, 9 September 2015 (UTC)

Reply

Hi Kuru - I appreciate your effort in maintaining the community.

I have been editing pages with useful and up to the minute news on many various topics... Many of the pages I have edited state that they are looking for people to edit and add sources and correct grammar, and that is what I have done. Every edit I made was done in proper format with good and valid sources. If you're going to come behind and erase my work, I don't see the point in continuing to try and contribute to the community. Please let me know if this is going to continue so I no longer waste my time and effort contributing. Thanks for your help T f 123321 (talk) 01:06, 15 September 2015 (UTC)

As long as you are adding promotional material related to entities that are clearly connected, then yes, you can expect it to continue. Use third-party WP:RS, not your own interests. Kuru (talk) 01:22, 15 September 2015 (UTC)

Ok - I guess you consider informative and relevant content as "promotional". Nothing written mentioned a brand or promoted a brand, it simply added content and useful info each wiki entry. Thanks anyway for your time - your efforts on wiki are appreciated

reply

I am still new at wikipedia so I am posting this here in case you didn't see my reply. I am actually not being paid to do this. I am trying to help DiCentral with their page on my own time. I was trying to put up the page and used the same sort of references that similar companies used. When it was turned down and each cite was shot down, I decided to correct the others. I've already told DiCentral they don't qualify and the DiCentral page won't be updated anymore. However, the double standard is disturbing. Someone told me if they held old pages to standards now there wouldn't be any. I put up OpenText up for deletion because the cites are horrible and the page is poorly written. I put up SPS because of bad cites. They have now updated and their page looks good.

The standards for new pages should apply to old pages as well. I can tell OpenText is one you care about because you've argued for it before. If you look through the talk page, I'm not the first to suggest deletion. Also both companies put advertising on the EDI wikipedia page which I deleted. I'm deleting your comments because they were wrong. I'm not correcting all pages just ones that I know something about. --Cmurphey80 (talk) 23:20, 26 September 2015 (UTC)

I'm sorry you've run in to trouble creating an article for your firm. I have not reviewed the material there and cannot offer you advice on the quality of your sources or whether it meets WP:CORP. I am concerned that you've picked up the edits from the Danielford832 account which is clearly corporate, and are using phrasing indicating a direct relationship with the firm ("EDI for my business", "If they are accepted and we are not"). If that was your previous account or if you are employed by the firm in any way, you need to follow WP:TOU and declare your paid COI. I don't care if you're "doing it on your own time" - that's a bit of a dodge, since you are clearly coordinating with them.

I am deeply concerned that you've now switched to editing the pages of competitors. This kind of thing can turn into a serious PR and ethical issue. I would strongly advise you to make sure your contact there is aware you've changed tactics, or, if you're working in marketing there, that you contact a supervisor or someone competent there and make sure they're on board with this kind of maneuver.

As for having the OpenText article on my watchlist, you can read through the history to see my previous recent edits - removing large quantities of spam from the material after removing links they spread to other articles. I will usually prod articles which are irredeemable, but that one is not. The firm seems to clearly meet WP:CORP. Kuru (talk) 00:41, 27 September 2015 (UTC)

It's not my firm. Yes, I was helping DanielFord832 but not getting paid for it or working for him. That's why I was referring to him and our not because it is mine. I tried and failed. They are going to have to work to get PR for notability to get an article accepted. They simply are not big enough right now. I've nominated more than just those kind of companies for deletion so I'm not sure how it would be a PR nightmare. SPS cleaned themselves up and I'm pretty happy with that page. OpenText isn't even trying. My problem is that I do feel like everyone should be held to the same standard. When I brought that up in help to get the article I was helping with accepted, I was blown off. I won't help create any pages till I clearly understand the atmosphere here. I feel like I have much to add but I'll be watching more than editing for awhile. I've added alot of good information to Bermuda, Insurance, Beading, and cleared tons of advertisers off the EDI page,etc in just a short 30 days. I wish I could have helped my friend but there are certain guidelines and his company didn't meet them.--Cmurphey80 (talk) 02:37, 27 September 2015 (UTC)

List of MLM companies

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_multi-level_marketing_companies

I know the list isn't all-inclusive. Is there a way to suggest additions to your list? Some that I can think of off the top of my head include Tupperware, Silpada, Plexus, Origami Owl, and 31 Gifts.

Thank you.216.67.46.97 (talk) 17:15, 27 September 2015 (UTC)

Paulmorantz

Since you are an administrator....you should be able to take action. People, not me, basically wrote my Wikipedia in 2011. It was very accurate. One of the few. As I was in about 6-10 of them I could personally vouch for inaccuracies. I was honored to be in Wikipedia and it was a time saver as when journalists wanted background I could refer them there. It accurately stated I specialized in suing fanatical movements and self help groups; the issue was brainwashing. Then came was one of those self promoting claims and I wrote this was defamatory of me. I thought it was later resolved as that blurbed was removed.

But over time my specialty keep changing to now being absurd--"institutional abuse." Publicly and in the media it is I specialized in going after fanatical cults. I preferred term totalistic movements. People have corrected this with sources many times. Wikipedia has it accurate in Center For Feeling Therapy Entry. the Molko entry has my role in the case but it gets removed even though this had the greatest impact on society of anything I ever did. Despite sources it keeps being removed my role in getting town of Parlier and Los Angeles Police Department out of Werner Erhard's grasp. Interesting if you Google est and brainwashing my story on what happened is No.1 so apparently society recognizes the importance even if you don't.

That's the point. My history is accurately reported everywhere. While I was once very proud to be included in Wikipedia I no longer refer people to it. It's grossly incomplete and inaccurate. This problem has been reported to me by others who have fought cults. Saying I specialize in institution abuse is disparaging and simply not the truth. Why would someone do that unless an agenda. Why is fact City of Santa Monica gave me a commendation deleted.

It is better it not appear so researchers will read other things and not be mislead. Where I was formerly proud to have an entry it is now an embarrassment. My website has 2 million viewers. If I am not important enough to Wikipedia that someone doesn't read sources given to see accuracies or the terminology over what I did--sued cults for brainwashing--is off limits than just remove it. After I am gone there is plenty that is accurate to read for anyone who cares. You can discuss this if you want. 310 4594745 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Paulmorantz (talk • contribs) 06:23, 14 October 2015 (UTC)

I reverted a mess of an addition to a WP:BLP, which trigged my attention when you used sources that linked to wikipedia mirrors which are completely unacceptable. I have no objection to someone re-writing the article, but they need to pay attention to the sourcing. I am sympathetic to your cause and I'd be happy to look at your article when I have some free time, but I'm not on a time table. Kuru (talk) 11:42, 14 October 2015 (UTC)

Vandalism

Hi Kuru, Thomas.W is creating vandalism, Removing and blanking content again and again after giving her last warning. Many user report her many time but each time he undo user reports from different account. his contributions thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by 119.160.69.32 (talk) 05:59, 19 October 2015 (UTC)

Hello. The IP is a sock of Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Najaf ali bhayo, currently operating on 119.160.65.0/16 to 119.160.69.0/16. Thomas.W ^talk 06:25, 19 October 2015 (UTC)

Eva Longoria

She and Tony Parker may be divorced, but they were legally married. The Category:Wives of National Basketball Association players should still apply. Michael Jordan is no longer a "Chicago Bulls player," but that category would still apply. I re-added the category for this reason. Rikster2 (talk) 14:36, 19 October 2015 (UTC)

That's an obscure category and hardly a WP:DEFINING characteristic for the subject of the article. For BLP issues like this, there would need to be a better specification in the category title to indicate that this is former classification, and then the category would just be more obscure. This seems to be moot as the category was created by a long term troll (unbeknownst to either of us), but I'd be against any re-creation. Kuru (talk) 23:45, 19 October 2015 (UTC)

References on the factoring page

There are a couple errors on this page due to redundant ref name="" values. Even the references that aren't incorrectly formatted seem to lack the necessary specificity. Thoughts? Bhanks (talk) 14:02, 20 October 2015 (UTC)

Inside information

Thank you for your reception of the latest. I don't know if you've seen this, but anyway you may wish to comment there. -- Hoary (talk) 23:55, 22 October 2015 (UTC)

A cup of tea for you!

With this ever dramatic world and winter coming, here's a cup of tea to alleviate your day! This e-tea's remains have been e-composted SwisterTwister talk 05:45, 25 October 2015 (UTC)

Vandal

Hey, Kuru. You blocked User:110.20.66.148 who I had flagged as a vandal of my talk page and pages I have edited. He has just come back and reverted your block/edit and is targetting my page again. I have reverted these but not sure what else to do now. Can you do anything else? J Bar (talk) 12:45, 27 October 2015 (UTC)

hi kuru i'm gonna create a page that you've been delete — Preceding unsigned comment added by Wikiwebhelp (talk • contribs) 18:25, 28 October 2015 (UTC)

Hello

Hello how are you. i'm having a personal attack with the User:Knowledgebattle, a user throwing personal opinion upon the articles, so i undo his edit's. as here and here. Many of other user's undo his edit's as here, since he is pushing the Category:Christianity-related beheadings in different places even it's not related or throwig his presonal opinions upon the articles as here which been also revert and here and here, so i'm not the only one who's undo his edit.

This not the first time that i handel his harrasment as stalking and undo my edit for several times and the user:Volunteer Marek ask him to stop this clear cut evidence of harassment. and when he called uneducated. It's interesting when he called me Christian-propaganda, when his articles been deleted for being full of propaganda and i will not talking also about his inappropriate comment's in different articles or talk pages. Have a nice day.Jobas (talk) 13:34, 7 November 2015 (UTC)

Hi Kuru - I work at Camp Champions and had edited the wikipedia page to reflect more information about our camp.

I noticed the edits were removed. We are not trying to use Wikipedia as a promotional too, but simply wanted to provide a more accurate reflection of what our organization is. Can you please return the edits made on October 6th to the Camp Champions page? Thank you.

No. You will need to provide reliable third-party sources for your edits. You'll also need to assert the notability of the organization and remove the puffery. I would also advise reading WP:COI. Kuru (talk) 18:01, 22 December 2015 (UTC)

Wishing you all the best . . .

Merry Christmas, Kuru, and may your holidays be merry and bright . . . . Cheers. Dirtlawyer1 (talk) 17:57, 22 December 2015 (UTC)

Sort of silly.

Hi Kuru, this [1] is sort of silly, right :-)? How can he (she?) have so many quite diverging IPs at hand so quickly, looks like a SP)? I could have asked for PageProtection via Twinkle, it didn't occur to me earlier. Anyway, let's hope calm and peace returns. And Merry Christmas to you. Poepkop (talk) 19:05, 26 December 2015 (UTC)

There are many IP masking services; some are really bad at it, and some are good. In that case, it's just two mouse-clicks to revert and block. Really not a hassle. The page protection is regrettable, since it probably inconveniences others. I suppose that's the part that excites him; I'll never understand the mentality involved. Kuru (talk) 01:10, 28 December 2015 (UTC)

FarnDeer

You did a fine job reversing FarnDeer's postings. Those postings amounted promotions or advertisements for someone. Iss246 (talk) 22:45, 27 December 2015 (UTC)

Thanks, those "Further reading" sections are almost always a mess on business articles. Adding the same recent publication to 40-50 barely related topics with several accounts does seem to be clearly over the line. Kuru (talk) 01:07, 28 December 2015 (UTC)

I had a similar experience with business and related entries in which someone loaded 30 different WP entries with the works of someone named Mittal. Iss246 (talk) 01:13, 29 December 2015 (UTC)

Bushrod Washington

Thank you for your comments on my edits to Bushrod Washington. Before reading your comments, I had not recognized that the citational source for the Project Gutenberg Self-Publishing Press article on Bushrod Washington is actually the Wikipedia article on that subject. As you stated, the Gutenberg article's original source is quite obscure. I have therefore removed the information in the Wikipedia article that the Gutenberg article contains except where I was able to find one or more sources that I consider to be reliable. Corker1 (talk) 01:15, 30 December 2015 (UTC)

Absolutely not a problem, I'm happy to help. I'm starting to think that there's some deliberate obfuscation going on with that publisher. While digging into this instance, I stumbled across yet another URL they use to link back to their mirror, and it appears that there's another score or so articles that are using it as a reference. :( Kuru (talk) 01:19, 30 December 2015 (UTC)

Happy New Year Kuru!

Happy New Year!

Kuru,
Have a prosperous, productive and enjoyable New Year, and thanks for your contributions to Wikipedia. Poepkop (talk) 14:26, 31 December 2015 (UTC)

Send New Year cheer by adding {{subst:Happy New Year 2016}} to user talk pages.

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Happy New Year, Kuru!

Happy New Year!

Kuru,
Have a prosperous, productive and enjoyable New Year, and thanks for your contributions to Wikipedia. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 21:48, 1 January 2016 (UTC)

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Help needed

Kuru I need help. I'm not good with the messaging on Wikipedia's UI and I'm really worried. I recently received this:

NOTICE OF INTENDED LITIGATION. On inspecting your recent contributions to wikipedia, we have determined that you have brought the site into disrepute. This kind of reputational damage to a world-leading website (and to one of the international community's most respected individuals/philanthropists) costs in excess of hundreds of thousands of US$ per year. We are therefore to commence legal proceedings against the operator of this IP immediately, and will be seeking a large sum in compensation, largerthan you can afford! Ha.

Jimbo Wales

I'm scared and confused right now. What's going on?

Ignore it; just a random troll. See here. Kuru (talk) 21:07, 2 January 2016 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Original Barnstar
	Thank you for your edits. Fixing Things 42824282 (talk) 07:38, 3 January 2016 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Jimarey

Five or six years later, Jimarey is return as an IP 82.53.179.230 to focus on Chris Brown or others. 123.136.111.80 (talk) 00:57, 6 January 2016 (UTC)

regarding Draft:Dredging Corporation of India edit note

hi Kuru, I am trying to revamp the article which got deleted in its earlier avatar (for justified reasons though, no contest on that part). Could you please help me to understand the {{cn}} you put against the Trivia section. I found it interesting for reading so retained it and linked with the article. Your inputs will help gain knowledge into the past transactions and take a decision on retaining / altering it suitably. Devopam (talk) 03:37, 11 January 2016 (UTC)

Certainly. Some other websites copy Wikipedia material and use it for their own purposes. This happens all the time, and is okay as long as they add the proper attribution. The site you used as a reference ("everything.explained.today") is one such mirror. It copied the material from here before the article was deleted. You cannot use it as a source, since you are basically self-referencing. You are, of course, free to use other sources as long as they meet our policy on reliable sourcing. Kuru (talk) 03:43, 11 January 2016 (UTC)

You've got mail

Hello, Kuru. Please check your email; you've got mail!
It may take a few minutes from the time the email is sent for it to show up in your inbox. You can at any time by removing the {{You've got mail}} or {{ygm}} template.

Destiny Leo (talk) 07:05, 13 January 2016 (UTC)

I have no e-mail from you. Kuru (talk) 12:22, 13 January 2016 (UTC)

Texas flag

I tried to add a 'similar' flag reference to the 'Acadian' flag... And I see comments how it was poorly worded and 'did not cite references' . Well not being a wiki editing expert - and only a lowly exec of one of the worlds largest companies, I was not overly familiar with the format requirements in how to 'properly' format I guess... And on references, I could not figure out how to format that per the standard as the instructions are archaic 'GML' type and while I apparently got that wrong, the reference was actually another wiki page of your own. And for the editor to say it was only similar in flag look is completely ridiculous as the flags are extremely similar... I would much more prefer a collaboration and assistance rather than an arrogant critique, then removal. Mrdoiron (talk) 14:02, 17 January 2016 (UTC)

The other editor's commentary is entirely correct. It may be harsh, but such is the nature of communications when you're limited to the written word and space constraints in an edit summary. We cannot source ourselves or our observations; this constitutes original research. I've attempted to go through the other items on that list and provide reliable sources that specific support the claims in the section; in this case, an acceptable source that specifically makes the connection between the two flags. In some cases, this was easy to find. In others, I could not find anything. You may want to start by looking at the edits I made and follow the example, or you can join the discussion on the article's talk page here to lay out your sources. Alternatively, if you have specific policy questions, I'm happy to help. Kuru (talk) 15:57, 17 January 2016 (UTC)

Liz Fraser

Hi Karu, Although not the author of the article Liz Fraser I have added several references and citations in order to try and satisfy the following bio criteria. "This biographical article needs additional citations for verification. Please help by adding reliable sources. Contentious material about living persons that is unsourced or poorly sourced must be removed immediately, especially if potentially libelous or harmful. (April 2010)". I was wondering how can that notice be removed now I've added sources as requested? I can't see how to do that by editing her page. Regards, Alfshire (talk) 12:23, 6 February 2016 (UTC)

Yes, the article was largely unreferenced before your edits in late January. I would say that your additions have addressed the concerns and that the tag can be removed. Kuru (talk) 12:50, 6 February 2016 (UTC)

Don't look now

Hi, I am the creator of the Don't look now wikipedia page and the person who left the last reference, What was your reason for removing it?

Davidgoodheart

America.pink is a poor quality copy of wikipedia pages, and not suitable as a reliable source. See here and WP:MIRROR for more info. Kuru (talk) 04:03, 8 February 2016 (UTC)

Hello again..

Hello there and real sorry for bothering you again (please bear with me, I'm too curious). I've been following WP:OP for some time now and I've learned a lot since then and I've a fair knowledge on open proxies. That aside, my question to you is regarding this request. I see there is a squid proxy operating on port 443. I tried connecting and I got the error, The page you are trying to view cannot be shown because the authenticity of the received data could not be verified. What is happening here? How did you connect and how did you know that was a zenmate proxy? Thanks in advance and regards—UY Scuti ^Talk 15:33, 8 February 2016 (UTC)

Connecting usually only works on wide open proxies. Use a scanner like Nmap. In this case, the service scan identified "ZenMate/1.5.0" as the service, with explicit references to ZenMate in the ssl-cert and the http-title. This was the same pattern for another IP used on the same article. Many of the usual VPNs are pretty open about being an exit node - they only care that the original IP is masked, not that it is unidentifiable as a proxy (i'm guessing). Kuru (talk) 00:54, 9 February 2016 (UTC)

Mirror text from cite book on I Kissed a Girl

<ref>{{cite book|first= C. |last= Duthel |year= 2012 |edition= 1st |title= [[Katy Perry - The Teenage Dream]] |publisher= [[Lulu.com]] |page= 33 |isbn= 978-1-4710-9245-9 |quote= "I Kissed a Girl" is a pop-rock and electropop song with a length of three minutes. The song contains influences of New Wave and runs through a throbbing beat and an organic instrumental thump, according to About.com's Bill Lamb.}}

Or a copied to Google Books.

Is the quote text is really came from a mirror from Wikipedia, or any blogs? 123.136.106.127 (talk) 14:31, 21 February 2016 (UTC)

Before even looking at the origin of the text, I would note lulu.com is a self-publishing platform and not an acceptable WP:RS. A quick glance at some of the material shows that it was copied wholesale from various other sites, and not in any way an acceptable source. Kuru (talk) 14:46, 21 February 2016 (UTC)

Comparison Table

Hey Kuru,

I would like to discuss the edit of the Comparison_of_time-tracking_software page. It was noted that their was not a page for Timeless Time & Expense. Can you explain?

Thanks Pdmead0 (talk) 21:22, 25 February 2016 (UTC)

Certainly; thanks for asking. All lists in Wikipedia have inclusion criteria. In some cases, it's pretty easy: a list of former presidents of the United States establishes the criteria simply by existing. There's a very small number of people who fit that bill, and we can include all of them easily, and it's obvious who is or is not a former president. No problem. For other lists, it is much more difficult. Take the "list of companies of the United States". There are millions of them. What does "of the US" mean: headquartered or present in the country? Current companies or defunct ones? Such a list simply can't be maintained. So criteria for inclusion are set.

This list is even worse; it's one of those "comparison" lists which includes a ton of detail about every list item. You really need to have reliable sourcing for every element in there, preferably third party sourcing, and it's almost impossible to maintain it again. Also, what is the threshold for inclusion? I could whip up a neat excel spreadsheet and slap a website together in a few hours. Should that be included? Of the hundreds of time tracking products, where does one draw the line? In this case, it appears it was settled that the criteria is simply "is there an existing Wikipedia article dedicated to the software"? If you edit the article, as you did, there is a notice at the top of the page:

"Please note: IF YOU DON'T PAY ATTENTION TO THIS MESSAGE, YOUR EDIT WILL BE ROLLED BACK WITHOUT WARNING. Only place entries here that are links to actual Wikipedia articles about notable time-tracking software. External links, redlinks, substubs, non-notable sites or sites that are not time-tracking software will be removed. If you have questions, use the talk page. Please try to keep entries in alphabetical order. Adding unnecessary links or text to any other section (such as the "References" section) will also be removed."

Frankly, these articles tend to turn into spam magnets if the inclusion criteria is not pretty solid. It most cases, it's really, really easy to construct an article which meets WP:NSOFT. I hope this helps, if I can provide more info I will. Kuru (talk) 00:09, 26 February 2016 (UTC)

And after typing all that up, I just noticed that you already did create an article, you just miss-linked it. Crap. I'll move your article to the correctly capitalized name and revert myself at the list. My apologies and know that I have been punished by typing up that mini-essay above. Kuru (talk) 00:12, 26 February 2016 (UTC)

All fixed; again, my apologies. Kuru (talk) 00:15, 26 February 2016 (UTC)

Deleting Citation

How could you delete source from List of people from Brahmanbaria. What kind of stupidity is that? Dont do it again Bangla1234 (talk

As noted in the edit summary, the site "Revolvy" copies content from Wikipedia (note the "Content from Wikipedia" link at the bottom of the article, which makes this mirror fairly easy to spot). This may not be used as a reference for reasons that seem obvious. You can read more about this at WP:MIRROR or my own notes here. Despite your warning, I will indeed remove this source if you add it again. If you feel this is "stupid", you can always contest it at WP:RSN - I would wish you the best of luck with that. Kuru (talk) 12:55, 5 March 2016 (UTC)

Reply to your note

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77.47.80.202

Thanks for blocking this IP address. Could you please consider also blocking 2001:4C50:19F:9C00:11BD:D1CC:C8C8:EE65, another IP which is obviously being used by the same individual? That IP is edit warring at the same pages as 77.47.80.202. Thank you. Deli nk (talk) 18:54, 14 March 2016 (UTC)

Looking at it; history seems to go back a little farther, so digging into that. My usual preference is to block the primary IP and then the others if they are used again (as block evasion). Kuru (talk) 19:12, 14 March 2016 (UTC)

OK, I understand. Deli nk (talk) 19:17, 14 March 2016 (UTC)

@Deli nk:, after looking at the history of both IPs and their self-professed predecessors, this is clearly Wikipedia:Long-term abuse/Best known for IP editing from yet another location. I've blocked both IPs for a longer period. As he is community banned, you can revert on sight. Kuru (talk) 19:45, 14 March 2016 (UTC)

Blocked editor part 2 (maybe part 25)

Hi Kuru, Yesterday you blocked [2001:4C50:19F:9C00:9199:E297:E0BC:F1D]. Today that person is back as [2001:4C50:19F:9C00:29C4:B8A4:FE0C:991A]. I suspect this person might possibly be a sock of a 20+ time permanently blocked User:DegenFarang. 2005 (talk) 16:49, 18 March 2016 (UTC)

Will look at it, but it looked a lot more like Wikipedia:Long-term abuse/Best known for IP than your old friend. Kuru (talk) 21:28, 18 March 2016 (UTC)

Okay, thanks, but here is another one 2001:4C50:19F:9C00:14C7:5439:D452:2E1C. 2005 (talk) 02:06, 19 March 2016 (UTC)

User now at AE

Please see Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Enforcement#Result concerning Beautifulpeoplelikeyou. You may have some familiarity with this case because you blocked this user for edit warring on March 14 on Electronic harassment. Thanks, EdJohnston (talk) 13:49, 23 March 2016 (UTC)

Was looking in to it. I've asked him a follow up on his talk page to see if he wants to be transparent; this does not appear to be his first rodeo. Kuru (talk) 23:44, 23 March 2016 (UTC)

Promotional editsd

Hi Kuru, thank you for the message. I do not fully agree with your reasoning. The contribution gives a lot of prominence to US based robo-advisor, very much neglecting the existence of its European counter-parties. It is therefore that I added the link, in order to provide the reader with a source of possible service providers outside the US. — Preceding unsigned comment added by JohnDoeBock (talk • contribs) 17:40, 25 March 2016 (UTC)

It's not a WP:RS. It does not explicitly support the preceding comment, not does it even need to be there as the material is already sourced. It also appears to be your site. Use the article's talk page to discuss addition if you must, but this just appears to be a lazy attempt at promoting your site. Kuru (talk) 17:47, 25 March 2016 (UTC)

References

Hi, Are you sure this is copied material and can you find any better sources?

Davidgoodheart

Yes, I'm sure. I really don't have any intention of doing any research for wrestling articles. Sorry; if the claim cannot be sourced then simply remove it. Kuru (talk) 03:06, 29 March 2016 (UTC)

Jack Tretton

Hello Kuru, a few days ago you made a revision to Jack Tretton regarding an unsourced nickname, with the explanation that it does not appear to be in common use by the subject. I would appreciate it if you would offer your opinion on a discussion at the talk page regarding this subject. Thank you. Trut-h-urts man (T • C) 21:10, 29 March 2016 (UTC)

done. Kuru (talk) 11:11, 30 March 2016 (UTC)

Noe Zhordania

Hello,

I have been notified that I am using the liquidsearch.com site as a source, however, I would like to outline that I am translating the source by myself and verifying the correctness of the information in different books ( which are indicated accordingly in the reference section).

Please let me know where I have used it , so I will modify it accordingly.

Kind regards,

Nanaantidze (talk) 07:12, 30 March 2016 (UTC)

I've removed the link three times in the last month: here, here, and here. The request was for you to not use the link as a reference in the future. Kuru (talk) 11:12, 30 March 2016 (UTC)

Risk Register Reference

Forgive any formatting/etc issues - I'm not 100% familiar with wiki syntax or talk etiquette.

Looking at your edit is it better to have no reference over what's considered a poor one? The site that was linked looks to be down right now - not sure if that's a temporary thing or not so this might be a moot point. I was the one who wrote the linked article and added it to the page - I didn't see WP:SELFSOURCE until I saw your comment about WP:RS but I thought I had checked other articles to see if it was okay (if I recall I was in a chat room and asked). Anyways - just trying to learn so I don't make this mistake in the future. :)

Ackis (talk) 14:19, 31 March 2016 (UTC)

Primarily it's the WP:USERGENERATED section; this appears to be a group blog, with no editorial control. Yes, if the reference does not meet WP:RS, it's better to have none at all. If the material cannot be sourced, then it should be removed. Kuru (talk) 01:46, 1 April 2016 (UTC)

I put up a speedy but oddly it didn't go on the users page

I did the usual db-person for this article Sandeep Hettiarachchi and oddly it didn't go on to the creators page-even odder the code to put it on the persons page seems to not be there either! Any clue what is going on? Wgolf (talk) 01:46, 8 April 2016 (UTC)

Had to do it manual, but it was odd it didn't go on the talk page. Wgolf (talk) 01:51, 8 April 2016 (UTC)

Not sure; everything looked fine, though. His recent edits seemed to indicate the article was a hoax, so I deleted it as such. Kuru (talk) 02:25, 8 April 2016 (UTC)

mirror wikipedia: photographs

You recently deleted a external link to photographs of Carmelita Maracci for this wikipedia article. Your note explained the deletion by saying the link was to a wikipedia mirror. Looked up "wikipedia mirror" and came away thinking they post information from wikipedia sites. Then tried to find the Carmelit Maracci photographs on wikipedia... but without success. Now want to post a photograph of Carmelita Maracci from that wikipedia mirror (america.pink). What's the story about the appropriateness of doing so? If you don't know, can you refer me? Thank you. Elfelix (talk) 21:13, 10 April 2016 (UTC)

America.pink is a Chinese site which copies material from a variety of sites, including Wikipedia. The text you've linked to was stolen from an earlier copy of that article (before your improvements). The images are likely copied from elsewhere as well. We cannot link to sites which host material with questionable copyright, see WP:ELNEVER. A simple reverse image search will likely lead you to the original hosts of the images. Kuru (talk) 21:30, 10 April 2016 (UTC)

Thank you. Interesting. Understand why you deleted it. Found "reverse image search" on the net. Never knew about this stuff! Double thanks. Elfelix (talk) 22:32, 12 April 2016 (UTC)

Poor citation removal?

First of all, I appreciate your monitoring of quality references and information throughout the Wiki platform. I believe the integrity of the information is vital to its success. I'm responding to your removal of my website as a citation for a few local pages. I'm sure you noticed some other substantial and positive changes to the pages I've edited. I'm not simply going in and adding my site as a reference, and leaving it at that. For example, on the Hollywood Park, Texas page, I completed the very incomplete list of past mayors. My site was used to reference subdivisions, which is in fact a real estate-related citation. Same deal regarding Alamo Heights, Texas. The History section relates to annexation or expansion, which is also real estate-related. When I posted these, the intention was never "blatant spamming" as you've referred to it. If that was the case, I would have left links on every page related to our city. I have only cited those pages where I have added meaningful information for the user. Again, apologies for the seemingly blatant spam. But that's not at all my intention. Derrich (talk) 12:30, 14 April 2016 (UTC)

In no way does your site meet our requirements for a reliable source. If you need help locating sources, please let me know and I'd be happy to help. Adding links to your website with material that personally promotes your financial interests is a conflict of interest, and the amount of promotional material (a long, detailed list of your listings in those areas) falls well over the spam line. This happens many times a day, and the activity is not new. I'm perfectly willing to assume good faith and that it was an honest mistake, but please seek out better sources. Kuru (talk) 23:19, 14 April 2016 (UTC)

Archive.is blacklisted

Greetings Kuru. www.Archive.is is a great web capture/ repository and is a unique tool to retrieve removed pages, however, Cyberbot II is tagging pages that include a link to it with {_{Blacklisted-links}_}. It is probably due to have \barchive\.is\b included in Local Spam-blacklist. I know you are not operating the bot, but I was wondering if you would exclude www.Archive.is somehow from the blacklist? After all, what is better than this website to be mentioned in "Archive URL" when citing a web address? (probably freezepage.com, but that is a bit of hassle for beginners to use). Thanks. Sattar91 (talk) 16:53, 15 April 2016 (UTC)

I'm sorry, but there have been many, many discussion related to archive.is, and the current state is that the service is blacklisted (per this RFC). There are frequent community discussions that you can jump into; I think this one was the latest. I would rightfully be removed as an admin if I unilaterally removed that site from the blacklist in the face of consensus. Kuru (talk) 21:54, 15 April 2016 (UTC)

Well noted. I was not aware of the massive discussions around that and I personally could see some creativity in the website that the other competitors do not match, but shall replace the links with other unblocked web archives from now on then. Thanks.Sattar91 (talk) 07:50, 18 April 2016 (UTC)

Clement Dzidonu Article

Hi Kuru,

kindly tell me how many days is remaining for me to provide the necessary references to validate the Article: "Clement Dzidonu". In addition, i will also like to know why you've flagged it for removal.

Best Regards, Kenny. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kennyung6 (talk • contribs) 13:58, 22 April 2016 (UTC)

hi

Hi - sorry for the unsolicited request, but I noticed you might be online right now. If it's not too forward, would you mind making a quick ruling on this 3RR complaint against me? Several other editors were pinged into this discussion and I'd like to get it off my plate as quickly as possible, even if you need to block me, so as to avoid this turning into another epic drama. Thanks. LavaBaron (talk) 22:36, 22 April 2016 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Editor's Barnstar
	നന്മകൾ നേരുന്നു WikiRescuer (talk) 23:43, 27 April 2016 (UTC)

Rodan + Fields

I added Ronan + Fields and you removed my edit, citing lack of source.

R+F is a well-known MLM company and their own homepage (which was linked) contains all the support you need:

https://www.rodanandfields.com/images/Archives/RF-Income-Disclosure-Statement.pdf

See also the information under the section "Become a Consultant" on the R+F homepage or any other article about the company on Google.

"Independent consultants" must pay fees to join, fees for products, and make most of their money (if any -- it's not common to do very well) comes from recruiting other members to work under them. These are the hallmark characterstics of MLM. Please reconsider your deletion of my edit.

Imperial_Nick — Preceding unsigned comment added by ImperialNick (talk • contribs) 00:27, 16 May 2016 (UTC)

At the time you added the link, I missed the sourced MLM mention in the article itself. I see it now, so I'll self- revert. Kuru (talk) 00:49, 16 May 2016 (UTC)

Jejudo Island

OK my friend, please explain in detail why you took my edits about the meaning of three things and no three things out of the article. I didn't spend the morning researching that for my health. I don't know what "mirror" whatever means. Please explain so I can make the article "right". That island is famous for that description. We just can't delete it. I made that mistake once thinking it was vandalism, and further research showed it to be "Spot On". Pocketthis (talk) 15:21, 17 May 2016 (UTC)

One of your references is a clearly identified mirror, that is, a site which copies information from Wikipedia and attributes it back to us. See WP:MIRROR. Obviously, that cannot be used as a source. The other source was to an open wiki, which is not a reliable source either. If you're having trouble identifying mirrors, I keep a cheat sheet here which may be helpful. I hope that makes more sense to you. Kuru (talk) 15:31, 17 May 2016 (UTC)

That was 'my' argument with the article Desert Island where every reference was clearly from "us", and pasted in the citations. However, no matter how hard I tried on the talk page to get the name of the article changed to uninhabited Islands, it was to no avail. I will find better references and reedit the Jejudo article. - Thanks...I think, however, I don't believe for one second that those citation articles copied our description. Pocketthis (talk) 16:13, 17 May 2016 (UTC)

One other fact: There was never a reference to the definition of the nickname in our article until I put it there yesterday, so how can the citations be mirrors? The nickname was mentioned in the taxobox previously, but not explained (no details). So much for the mirror theory. However, I did change the citation before reediting the article just now. Of course, I did not reverse you. I never reverse established editors. I try to save that exercise for vandals. Also, thank you for extending me the same courtesy. Pocketthis (talk) 16:45, 17 May 2016 (UTC)

I'm not sure of another way to explain it to you. "Everything Explained" is a pure Wikipedia mirror - every so often they grab copies of Wikipedia, reformat the text and post it on their site. This is perfectly legal as long as they abide by the terms of our license. They provide attribution at the bottom of each page. When you add a citation to our article and use that site, you are essentially referencing Wikipedia with itself. This is obviously sub-optimal. Please don't be offended, it happens quite a bit - they index high on google and people searching on a term will likely have them in a search result. If you miss the attribution, the issue can occur.

NewWorld is a little different. They started by copying material from Wikipedia (with the correct attribution), then modified it to their own standards. It still fails as a WP:RS, since it's essentially an open wiki, and oftentimes they retained some of the original article. There have been several discussions related to that site at WP:RSN, I think the links are at my cheat sheet.

As noted, this happens often, it's why I scan for those sources specifically and evaluate them in context. Hope this helps. Kuru (talk) 18:11, 17 May 2016 (UTC)

• Nice of you to take the time to try and drum it into my thick head. So essentially, even though neither of those sites could have possibly mirrored the definition because we never had it on our page to begin with, your issue is with the sites themselves in general because of the way they accumulate information. Then I would suggest they be put on the "do not accept" list. From time to time in my tenure here, I would use a reference and our site wouldn't accept the citation from that particular site. Am I going in the right direction with this? If so, you don't need to reply, and I will know I am. Thanks - Pocketthis (talk) 21:55, 17 May 2016 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 23 May 2016

Dear Kuru,

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robo-advisor

I added in "notable robo advisors" today "South Korea: Quarterback Investments", but I saw that you removed the company from the list shortly after.

Could you please explain me your decision to do so?

You have added "SafeTrade" on the list which has 10X less AUM than Quarterback Investments (First robo advisor firm in South Korea), therefore I don't understand your decision to remove it.

Please explain your methodology or the way you decide the list.

I appreciate your time thank you !

114.204.7.4 (talk) 07:01, 23 May 2016 (UTC)

There's been a large amount of spamming on that page. As the list states "notable" providers, we usually request that an article which meets our inclusion criteria (i.e. having established notability) exists. Kuru (talk) 11:36, 23 May 2016 (UTC)

University of Incarnate Word

Kuru, because you've edited the University of the Incarnate Word article, I've come to you for help! A new user (KarlMWinnoww) added a non-notable person to the article. I reverted per WP:ALMAMATER (not notable). Then, DavidRThomason comes along, reverts my edits and is still reverting. I had left a message on his talk page, but he removed it. I'm done reverting because I've reverted 3 times. I've tried the things we're supposed to do: talking to the other user (they won't reply), so now I'm taking it to an administrator! Thanks, 🎓 Corkythehornetfan 🎓 18:19, 31 May 2016 (UTC)

No need to respond. You may still want to have a look. Although the user has contacted another, he has told him pretty much that this person isn't notable, but is still not accepting it. Another editor has reverted David's edit to the article for this same reason, but he keeps reverting. Thanks, 🎓 Corkythehornetfan 🎓 21:05, 31 May 2016 (UTC)

Apologies - I'm not usually available during the day. Looking at this now. Kuru (talk) 22:28, 31 May 2016 (UTC)

Looks resolved for now; he used multiple accounts in an edit war. I would have blocked for the 3RR (a warning was included prior to his last revert) had no action been taken. Glad a checkuser was watching WP:ANEW. Kuru (talk) 22:34, 31 May 2016 (UTC)

No worries; I was in no rush. I was just letting you know that someone else grabbed a hold of it, but then I realized that the user wasn't going to be successful! I had warned him about using multiple accounts in his edit, but it was removed. Thanks for thr reply! 🎓 Corkythehornetfan 🎓 22:42, 31 May 2016 (UTC)

2016 Wikimedia Foundation Executive Director Search Community Survey

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Thank you, The Wikimedia Foundation Executive Director Search Steering Committee via MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 21:49, 1 June 2016 (UTC)

Link Removal

Hi Kuru, I have read the definitive rules described on [Guide Page about 'External Links'] and have thoroughly and accurately followed them. Referring to the first position in 'Important points to remember' section that directly concerns citations, references, and external links for e-commerce and other commercial links, I have kept all the necessary rules to ensure that my link was not removed. You as a moderator felt the opposite and now I'm asking you to give the reason and evidence that the link which I left was not relevant or contained spam. Best wishes, hope to hear from you soon. Thanks in advance. Vlad Polak (talk) 14:39, 13 June 2016 (UTC)

You're linking to a simple pitch page that is heavily promotional and does not even support the statements you're trying to "reference". If you're really trying to find references for the material, there are probably thousands of reliable sources you can choose from that are not as spammy as that one. Let me know if you need help finding them. Kuru (talk) 16:01, 13 June 2016 (UTC)

Hm, thanks, I've understood. Can you please provide me with any examples of reliable sources that pass Wikipedia requirements related to notes, references, and external links? Quite difficult to comply all rules mentioned in [External Links Guideline] I'll be pleased to get any suggestions (examples) from you how to add links and other types of additional information correctly. Have a nice day. Thanks in advance.Vlad Polak (talk) 07:02, 14 June 2016 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/MariaJaydHicky

Special:Contributions/Formation1234, Special:Contributions/Longwaytogohome and Special:Contributions/151.231.155.64 are possibly socks. 123.136.107.162 (talk) 06:36, 15 June 2016 (UTC)

References

Hi Kuru,

I am new to editing on Wikipedia and was hoping you could clarify for me the best route. My question does stem from [you made to my contribution] but is really more of a general question.

Should web sites not be linked to as sources? My thinking was that when it's a written book like you changed it to, people can't go there if they want to learn more without buying or checking out the actual book. From a user experience perspective, I would think a link is always better.

I hope you don't think this is a complaint about your revision, it's really not. I'm just trying to understand what is best and expected in the community moving forward. Thanks!Lastman8500 (talk) 16:27, 16 June 2016 (UTC)

We should always seek to use the best quality, reliable sources. Some of the links you used were pretty sketchy (simplelifeinsure), and slathered with promotional material. It really does not matter if the source is available online, but in this particular case, all of the books are indeed available for reading at the links provided. Kuru (talk) 02:53, 17 June 2016 (UTC)

ok, thanks for clarifying. I will keep that in mind going forward.Lastman8500 (talk) 12:49, 17 June 2016 (UTC) I have no idea why this is titled "sockpuppet investigations". I could edit it but I will leave for now in case that means something I'm completely unaware of. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Lastman8500 (talk • contribs) 16:56, 16 June 2016 (UTC)

You began your comment in a section that was already titled that way. I've added another section title for you. Kuru (talk) 02:53, 17 June 2016 (UTC)

Tigrayans

Hi Kuru, it was created a new page that distinguishes two peoples Tigrayans and Tigrinyas but was not completed well because in the Tigrayans page there are arguments that speak of people Tigrinyas I plan to complete the Tigrinyas page to give a clear division to two pages

There is an ongoing discussion regarding the page Tigrayans in paragraph Notable Ethiopian Tigrayan people were also included now deleted Ethiopian Axumite kings and saints by another user if you can tell her to end the discussion

Here I was required references from Puhleec and I have added them. All Axumite kings born in Tigray is the people Tigrayan and language is direct source for both the source Ge'ez language, most importantly the type of stone construction (Hudmo)1 of peasant dwellings, churchs and rock hewn churches of Tigray in classic style Axumite and almost all of the practice of the Ethiopian Orthodox Tewahedo Church of religion and most monumental archaeological treasures and inherits library stored in Tigray all bring back the Axumite period not retrievable in the regions Amhara and Oromo. Thanks for your help--tell me Sennaitgebremariam (talk) 13:15, 20 June 2016 (UTC)

Waiting for an answer--tell me Sennaitgebremariam (talk) 07:00, 21 June 2016 (UTC)

It's not clear what the question is. You appear to be having some kind of content dispute with another editor, but I'm not sure what assistance you're asking me for. Kuru (talk) 11:04, 21 June 2016 (UTC)

she is administrator of wikipedia and I'm asking you to do to end this dispute with another user Puhleec on the page Tigrayans topic Notable Ethiopian Tigrayan people who try to erase some characters with motivations false--tell me Sennaitgebremariam (talk) 18:11, 21 June 2016 (UTC)

tell me Sennaitgebremariam your sources do not state as a Fact that the ancient Aksumites Aksum were Tigrayans, therefore adding them under the Notable Tigrayans is false and unproven and your original research. I used original research tags, verifiable citations needed, your citations did Not state and agreed upon that the Ancient Aksumite Kings were Strictly Tigrayans only. The many sources on Aksum kingdom that are available state the Aksumites SPOKE Geez and Not Tigrinya(language of Eritren Tigrinyas and Ethiopian Tigrayans), therefore you adding Aksumite kings to Notable Tigrayans is Original Research on your part since you keep Arguing with the argument of "Axum" is in "Present-day Tigray" therefore the Ancient Aksumite Kings were "Tigrayans". Is False logic on your part because Present day Tigrayans DO NOT speak GEEZ but speak Amharic and Tigrinya( two languages connected to Geez, but linguists have not completely confirmed their descent). Since your sources do not back your argument, the Aksumite Kings should be DELETED from the "Notable Tigrayans". You have no verified and proven your Wiki entry. It doesn't meet Wiki standards and therefore the Aksumite Kings listed under "Notable Tigrayans" will be Deleted. The more you keep bringing those "Aksumite kings" under Notable Tigrayans without Verifiable Sources, the more it will be Deleted.Puhleec (talk) 04:02, 22 June 2016 (UTC)

Guys, to be honest I really have no desire to moderate a content dispute in an area I have no background in with two people who are extremely passionate but are not able to fully communicate in English. I do know that the sourcing provided by one of you was very, very poor - at least three different Wikipedia mirrors were used, which usually indicates that someone is making things up and trying to source them by doing Google searches. I would encourage you two to use the article's talk page to discuss your differences, then use or standard dispute resolution processes if you can't come to some sort of compromise. Kuru (talk) 11:09, 22 June 2016 (UTC)

False, Tigrinya language it comes from the Ge'ez and are closely related--tell me Sennaitgebremariam (talk) 00:29, 23 June 2016 (UTC)

IndustryArc

Hi Kuru,

One of my addition to IndustryArc has been removed, as it appears to have added copyrighted material to Wikipedia without evidence of permission from the copyright holder.

My apology, I am new to editing on Wikipedia. I will surely take care of it in future. Can I recreate the same article by writing in my own words? Thank you for your help. Caroline A. Murphy (talk) 09:43, 22 June 2016 (UTC)

There were quite a few problems I noticed before deleting the article. You used a tremendous amount of promotional language and puffery; that will need to be left out. There were claims of "industry leading" that were sourced back to nothing other than marketing claims by the firm; you will need to source that to reliable third-party sources. There were also a significant number of sources that did not in any way support the claims being made. The primary issue was, of course, the direct copy & paste from other web pages. That's a serious problem that you should be very careful with in the future. Kuru (talk) 11:05, 22 June 2016 (UTC)

Maumee River

You removed my reference 'to a Wikipedia mirror.' I had provided a citation where one was missing. Did I not follow the proper procedure? How can I fix this? Thanx, Bill — Preceding unsigned comment added by Robinsonbill (talk • contribs) 17:24, 23 June 2016 (UTC)

See WP:MIRROR. That site copies material from Wikipedia without attribution; it cannot be used as a citation as you'd essentially be self-referencing. Kuru (talk) 18:24, 23 June 2016 (UTC)

I did not know about their history. The page I sourced was not copied from Wikipedia, but I will look for a better one. Thanks. Bill (talk) 17:36, 25 June 2016 (UTC)

Vacation

Note: I'll be on vacation and unable to access the internet until early July. I will not be responding to messages here until then. Kuru (talk) 03:32, 25 June 2016 (UTC)

IP and Alhaqiha, same person

I believe IP82.171.219.101 is actually user:Alhaqiha, who has made similar edit(s)[2]. I noticed this edit warring has been going on since 16 May 2016.

On North African Arab article, Alhaqiha copy & pasted(24 May 2016) from Britannica which is repeated by the IP. Per editor interaction analyser.

Both appear to not like the word "Berber":
IP:[3]
Alhaqiha:[4] --Kansas Bear (talk) 17:11, 25 June 2016 (UTC)