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Better Photo

Is there no better photo of Ryan? 182.68.35.32 (talk) 07:42, 4 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Edit request on 29 December 2011

Can you add next to NigaHiga's date of birth that he was born in Hilo, Hawaii like it says on his bio pages to be more clear enough on where he's from.

108.41.68.34 (talk) 16:10, 29 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

 Done 117Avenue (talk) 20:42, 29 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Edit request on 20 January 2012

Please may I edit this page because Nigahiga dosen't have 4.9 million subscribers anymore.

86.45.7.9 (talk) 19:46, 20 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

This template is for requesting specific edits to the page, if you want to be able to edit it yourself you need to create an account (it requires no personal info and only takes 30 seconds), then become autoconfirmed or confirmed--Jac16888 Talk 20:00, 20 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Please change "as of January 2012, the Nigahiga channel has over 4.9 million subscibers" to 5 million subsribers 86.45.7.9 (talk) 22:16, 20 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

 Done, but this isn't a running daily tally. 01:32, 21 January 2012 (UTC)

Edit request on 27 January 2012

Nigahiga now has over 5.1 million subscribers, not over 5.0 million subsribers.

86.45.5.62 (talk) 07:49, 27 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

 Not done, as said above, this is not a running tally--Jac16888 Talk 12:12, 27 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Edit request on 27 January 2012

Please note Ryan Higa's channel (Nigahiga) has over 5.1 million subscribers


86.45.5.62 (talk) 16:39, 27 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

 Not done, per the same reason I gave a few hours ago--Jac16888 Talk 16:44, 27 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Edit request on 1 February 2012

Nigahiga has 5.1 million subscribers. Please change that! 86.45.5.62 (talk) 21:55, 1 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

 Not done, as explained above, this is not a running daily tally. 117Avenue (talk) 03:19, 2 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Ninja Melk

I'm just a wikia contributor, but shouldn't they add a page about Ninja Melk and "Agents of Secret Stuff" because they're like the two film movies of his? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.20.236.111 (talk) 03:30, 6 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

A half hour YouTube video isn't a movie. 117Avenue (talk) 05:40, 6 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

No longer number one subscribed

YouTube has been cleaning out inactive subscribers. "Technically" RayWilliamJohnson was most subscribed, his channel was maintained first. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 210.55.215.173 (talk) 00:22, 16 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

We got that cleared up a long time ago. ZappaOMati 23:57, 22 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Besides, his new video Youtube Apocalypse explained everything (kinda). Zappa (talk) 13:52, 26 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]
I think the IP was referring to the "YouTube Apocalypse" that was happening around the time nigahiga released its 8 February 2012 video. 117Avenue (talk) 02:41, 27 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Name

I can't be the only one who sees a racial slur in the first half of "Nigahiga." I'm sure it's not that, but does anyone know the origin of the name? Can we explain it? --BDD (talk) 18:13, 19 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Well his name is Higa, maybe he thought it was a cute rhyme at the time. 117Avenue (talk) 00:13, 20 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Nope, don't just randomly guess. Go Google it. It's not that hard to type in a few words and hit enter.

Anyways, he said it means "rant" in Japanese. He probably used it because it rhymes with his last name, "Higa" and for his "ranting" on videos and stuff. I'll go ahead and add this in. - M0rphzone (talk) 01:00, 27 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

i'm japanese - it does NOT mean "rant" at all! you been played.
it CAN mean "bitter" (of food), but i doubt that was it either. it bloody OBVIOUS he chose it as a form of "nigga"...which just HAPPENED to rhyme with his last name. i wouldn't quite say that it's "racist", per se -- utes of all stripes are using it in a sort of "yo, i'm bad" sense these days. 66.105.218.27 (talk) 00:48, 6 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

New video

He has a new video. Please add. Haimehen (talk) 23:22, 22 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

 Done ZappaOMati 23:57, 22 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

No videography

How ironic this is, considering the previous message. A list of YouTube videos made by this celebrity is of no encyclopedic relevance at all. These aren't films or records that were released by a record company or otherwise remarked on in a reliable source. We are not a directory of everything a person did (no matter how trite and short), we are not a fansite: we are an encyclopedia that should include relevant, verified facts. This list is not one of the things we should include. Drmies (talk) 16:34, 30 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

While I agree that I don't see the encyclopedic value of the videography in this article, the article is very popular (latest stats), and the removal of a section must first garner consensus. I would like to see that all editors and watchers of this page are in agreement, that the videography should be removed, before it does get removed. The videography was recently split from this article, and the result of the discussion for its deletion, was for it to be merged back into this one. 117Avenue (talk) 03:40, 1 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Frankly, I don't understand your position at all. Popularity is no reason to keep a specific section of it--in fact, popularity doesn't mean much of anything according to our policies, besides things like having a redirect. We're not talking about major works here: we're talking about little YouTube videos by someone who is, certainly in the grand scheme of things a nobody. And have you noticed the messed-up links? There's something that links to Epic Meal Time, which he has nothing to do with at all, but the blue link suggests notability for the YouTuber himself. There's links to Belieber, just cause he spoofed Bieber, and a bunch of other things, and that's without dumb blue links like one to Australia. You restored it twice already without a valid argument, and agreeing with me--at the very least you should clean it up and remove those links. But I stand by my original point: this is trivial, non-notable, falling foul of NOTDIR and of NOTRESUME. And there is NOTHING anywhere that says this removal should garner consensus: playing devil's advocate is just unproductive. Drmies (talk) 14:14, 1 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, popularity doesn't mean much of anything according to our policies, and you have now explained those policies. But neither of your removals cited a policy allowing you to blank a section without discussion. According to our policies that is disruptive editing. Providing a forum for discussion is not playing devil's advocate. 117Avenue (talk) 03:33, 2 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

As already mentioned above, these are recreational videos made by Higa and his friends, it is not a filmography. Similar lists were recently deleted here, here, and here. 117Avenue (talk) 02:36, 19 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Who added it in anyways? It shouldn't even have been kept in the article in the first place. Previous attempts at removal were done by numerous editors, but Avenue, you yourself reverted many of the removals due to "no consensus". - M0rphzone (talk) 09:35, 1 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Usage of name as nickname/pseudonym for Ryan Higa

117Avenue, you do know that people call him "Nigahiga" right? I know its from the channel name, but that is not just the channel name, but also the nickname of Higa for his YouTube account/Google account. He is better known as "Nigahiga", not Ryan Higa. - M0rphzone (talk) 04:45, 18 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

More importantly, the scope of this article right now focuses mostly on Ryan Higa and the things he did, not on the actual channel. If this article is on the channel, it will have to be more like Google Search or another website or TV/video channel. This article should be a biographical article on Ryan Higa; it should not be an article on a website or (TV/video) channel. In all the sources, Ryan Higa and what he did/does is the subject, not his only his channel. Therefore, I have restructured the beginning and changed the infobox to a infobox person one. And people who like Ryan Higa's work are "Nigahiga" fans because that is his nickname. People don't talk about his channel; they talk about him. The channel is not more important than Higa himself. This article should be structured similarly to the article on KevJumba.

This has been a nagging issue ever since the creation of the article. It's time to address it and fix the problem. - M0rphzone (talk) 05:14, 18 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Btw, has Higa ever told anyone his Japanese name? - M0rphzone (talk) 05:14, 18 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

While I believe this is possible, I would like to see it proven. From what I have seen from YOMYOMF, YTF, etc. he is introduced as Ryan Higa from Nigahiga. As it stands, the title of this article is "Nigahiga", and WP:LEAD states that this shall be defined in the first sentence, "Nigahiga is a YouTube channel." Reviewing the article I agree that it is more like a bio, and I now believe the article should be moved to "Ryan Higa", unless you can prove that Nigahiga meets WP:COMMONNAME. 117Avenue (talk) 06:24, 18 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Really now. You're editing this article and you don't know basic information on Ryan Higa? Link comparisons to Google: about 9,620,000 for "nigahiga" vs. 1,830,000 for "Ryan Higa". - M0rphzone (talk) 06:46, 18 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Also, even though he may be formally introduced as Ryan Higa from Nigahiga, and the name originally included the entire group in the beginning, now Ryan Higa is the main personality in the channel, not to mention that he is more well-known as "Nigahiga" in various sources, and in the general public. - M0rphzone (talk) 06:46, 18 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
You seem to be acting as a steward for this article, so can you please research more thoroughly and actually view his videos to see who is the main focus in the channel? - M0rphzone (talk) 06:48, 18 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Google counts don't mean anything if you don't analyze them. Do you know that the nine million refer to the person and not the channel? Here's a few other numbers for you 81 vs. 141, 3 vs. 160, 406 vs. 544, 1,140,000 vs. 2,800,000, 1,140,000 vs. 1,580,000. Could you please further back up "that he is more well-known as "Nigahiga" in various sources, and in the general public" than your Google search? Thanks. I have viewed his videos, and have been subscribed for a long time. I am aware that most videos on the nigahiga channel feature Higa, but that doesn't prove commonname, in fact one of the popular features is Ask Ryan. 117Avenue (talk) 02:26, 19 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Don't you mean Dear Ryan? ZappaOMati 02:34, 19 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Oops, that doesn't help my case. 117Avenue (talk) 03:54, 19 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Alright then, let's take a look at the first link you gave. Right off the bat, the second link uses nigahiga as a nickname of Ryan Higa: "For Ray William Johnson and Ryan Higa (nigahiga), they may be the most successful Youtube celebrities out there..."

  • Next one: "Ryan Higa aka NigaHiga, the most subscribed YouTube channel, talks about his experience on YouTube."
  • Next: "November 23rd marked the premiere of Ryan Higa's (Youtube alias nigahiga) and Wong Fu Productions' premiere of..."
  • Next: "Obviously it's for comedic purposes, but top Youtube stars Kev Jumba and Ryan Higa (nigahiga) have both recently shown..."
  • Next: "...start her own comedic Youtube series, following in the tradition of other Internet comedians such as NigaHiga (Ryan Higa) or HappySlip (Christine Gambito)."
  • Next: "YouTube sensations Ryan Higa (aka NigaHiga), behind the 2nd most subscribed YouTube channel of all time, along with the 9th most subscribed YouTube..."

Ok, these quotes don't really prove anything, but when you take out "Sean Fujiyoshi", "channel", and "lyrics", you get about 4,290,000 results for nigahiga that look like they mostly refer to or imply Ryan Higa. - M0rphzone (talk) 05:40, 19 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Anyways, after thinking about it some more, it makes more sense to use "Ryan Higa" as the article title since the channel also features Sean and the other guys, not only Ryan. "Nigahiga" can redirect to this article since it may refer to both the channel (which is covered in this article) or Ryan Higa's alias. Do you guys agree with the move to "Ryan Higa"? - M0rphzone (talk) 05:47, 19 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, I don't think that Nigahiga is completely synonymous Ryan Higa. The sources you list above say that Higa is the man behind Nigahiga, or the channel name that he uses. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 117Avenue (talk • contribs) 01:57, 20 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
No, Nigahiga is almost like his alias/nickname/pseudonym. People know him and reference him by that name, regardless if that's originally his channel name. But we'll still use his actual name for the article title for the previous reasons. - M0rphzone (talk) 09:38, 1 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move

The following discussion is an archived discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the move request was: Move. Cúchullain t/c 03:35, 22 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Nigahiga → Ryan Higa – The actual YouTube channel is titled Nigahiga. However, as per viewed in the first paragraph, the article is about Higa himself. Therefore, the article title should be titled Ryan Higa. Rhain1999 (talk) 05:16, 28 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

The issue is with "academic/proper" name usage and "regular common name" usage. According to some search results (which are not definitive), Ryan Higa seems to be used more often (since that is his real name), but nigahiga is his nickname/username on YouTube and what many refer to him by (as sourced in the previous section). As I stated before, when you take out "Sean Fujiyoshi", "channel", and "lyrics", you get about 4,290,000 results for nigahiga that look like they mostly refer to or imply Ryan Higa. I've actually reconsidered, and I think even if nigahiga is Higa's common name, using his actual name, Ryan Higa seems more appropriate. - M0rphzone (talk) 20:53, 12 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Update: Also, when you register for a YouTube account, you are creating an account with an alias/nickname (at least before Google started forcing you to create it with your actual name). The channel name just uses your alias/nickname, rather than the other way around. So nigahiga is not a channel name, but rather Higa's nickname. - M0rphzone (talk) 20:59, 12 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page or in a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.

Edit request on 11 November 2012

Nigahiga just broke the 6.000.000 subscribers -limit. That's worth of an editing, right? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.237.67.77 (talk) 22:18, 10 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

 Done ZappaOMati 22:31, 10 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Verification of name prevalence

117, you really need to stop reverting all my edits. But anyways, in response to your comment, it's not that Ryan's actual name is used more frequently than nigahiga, but that we can't really verify whether or not one name is used more frequently than the other to refer to Ryan only. Since this the case, then fine we go with the safe/neutral wording and use Ryan's actual name instead of a nickname for the title, but that doesn't mean he's not more commonly known as nigahiga. Google Trends shows that nigahiga is definitely used more often than Ryan Higa, but there's no way to find out who searchers are searching for, so we just use Ryan's actual name, despite the fact that he may be known mononymously as Nigahiga. Also, Ryan created the nigahiga YouTube account/username/channel, not the other guys, and his early videos almost always include only him as the person "ranting"/talking in the video. And 117Avenue, there is no evidence that he is introduced more frequently as "Ryan Higa from Nigahiga" than just Nigahiga/NigaHiga, despite what you claimed. - M0rphzone (talk) 09:40, 27 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

We know that a lot of people use Ryan Higa, I believe that he is most often introduced as Ryan Higa. We do not add material about a living person that is poorly sourced. An article should not claim that there is a large group out there that uses the name of a person's work, as the name of that person. He may have originally only been known by his screen name, but as he became famous, more people learned about Ryan Higa. Just like others who become famous from their YouTube work. 117Avenue (talk) 03:43, 28 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Yes I know, 117. That's why we're using his actual name, rather than his nickname because it is not verifiable. There's no need to drop [[WP:POLICY|policies]] for an explanation. Thanks for the reply though. - M0rphzone (talk) 08:44, 28 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Number of Subscribers

The nigahiga channel has passed the 6.1 million subscriber mark, making the 6.0 mentioned in the lede obselete. It doesn't make sense to keep a running total though, so shouldn't we just change it to 6 million (no decimals). This will keep it from being obselete and it won't have to be updated as much. 99.142.3.70 (talk) 02:47, 28 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

No, it isn't a running total. I think it should be updated about once a month. I update the articles on some of the top YouTubers at the same time, around the first Monday of the month, rather than every time a number changes. 117Avenue (talk) 03:35, 28 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Alright. That works. 99.142.1.201 (talk) 20:54, 28 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

"It says by December 21, 2010, it had reached 3 million subscribers" and "In September 2014, it had 2.6 million subscribers".Makes no sense.--Chamith (talk) 00:54, 24 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Correct, when you read part of two unrelated sentences, you cannot put them together. However, when the whole paragraphs are read, they make sense. 117Avenue (talk) 06:15, 24 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Ethnicity in info box

No one or very people have their ethnicity or race listed in Wikipedia so we should not put it here, as it is common practice not to do this and it looks strange and unnecessary to have ethnicity or race it the box.

I don't know why someone add ethnicity or race to parameter. Race is especially not listed for celebs or famous politicans. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Desipunjab (talk • contribs) 03:16, 8 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Okinawan descent

@User:117Avenue: Just wanted to point out that Ryan Higa is clearly of Okinawan descent, based on his surname, Higa, as well one of his comments on his official twitter account: https://twitter.com/therealryanhigoa/status/21137901638 There's really no greater reliable source than something he said himself. Also, to be fair, there's no reliable source that I've come across that says he's of Japanese descent. That information is inferred based on the fact that he speaks Japanese, which is also characteristic of the Okinawan/Ryukyuan-Japanese people. BUjjsp (talk) 15:15, 27 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

There are several things that make me think it is not appropriate for the lead paragraph. A name does not make a person a certain descent, there is no way a name could make a person clearly from a culture. Even if it were true, the name only comes from one ancestor, a person has many ancestors, and it would be ridiculous to name all of them, and their cultures. Your source is self published, and does not meet the requirements of verifiability and reliability, as laid out in Wikipedia:Biographies of living persons. I think this note is too contentious, and not appropriate for the article. 117Avenue (talk) 02:48, 30 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I don't see how the source violates any of the verifiability requirements which I've reproduced below.

"The material is neither unduly self-serving nor an exceptional claim." Nope.
"It does not involve claims about third parties." Nope, only talks about himself.
"It does not involve claims about events not directly related to the source." Nope.
"There is no reasonable doubt as to its authenticity." Nope, there doesn't seem to be any reason for him to lie about his ethnic background.
"The article is not based primarily on such sources." Nope.

Also, WP:Twitter which specifically says that "A specific tweet may be useful as a self-published, primary source. Twitter incorporates a Verified Account mechanism to identify accounts of celebrities and other notable people; this should be considered in judging the reliability of Twitter message." In the link I provided, he (on his official, verified twitter account) specifically says, "ahhh i'm okinawan and i've never been there.... lucky!" BUjjsp (talk) 06:58, 30 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I'm confused... 117Avenue just reverted my edit Category:American people of Okinawan descent. 117Avenue didn't even say why he removed the category... Yet 117Avenue left Category:American people of Japanese descent untouched. You do realize Ryan Higa is listed as one of the "Notable Ryukyuan people" in Ryukyuan people? Alice Kim (talk) 11:02, 6 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

I did state why I reverted you, it was unreferenced. However, I forgot about this discussion, we do have a reference, I apologize. I was unaware of Ryukyuan people, but I see that list is entirely unreferenced. I would like to know why @Lmurphin: and @Kyogul: removed Higa's ethnicity from the lead sentence. I think that a person being a minority in an industry is often mentioned early in the article. 117Avenue (talk) 03:30, 9 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]
@117Avenue: What do you mean? It's already mentioned early in the article. Just two sentences from the start of the article the Background section begins, which its first sentence details his ethnicity. In biography pages it's common to put someone's nationality first after their name, give a synopsis of what they are known for, and then detail their history/background, which is where ethnicity is generally mentioned if evidence is found. But most importantly, it's redundant to say that he's Japanese-American and then two sentences later detail that he is of Okinawan descent. In this case, to call him Japanese-American would imply that he is he an immigrant (e.g. Shin Koyamada) or that he is a dual-citizen (which thus far we know he's only American). And just a note, X-Americans (i.e. Japanese-Americans) is an ethnicity term, not a nationality term. It's used to specify certain people of a country, but not the people of a country collectively (or in other words, nationals). So, in my opinion his nationality needs to be changed to just American and not Japanese-American, his Ethnicity put in a box (e.g. Kiko Mizuhara), OR the Background section can be removed and his ethnic values can be summarised with just Japanese-American. But I get the feeling the latter won't happen, so I'll change it back to American since that's how it should be. Kyogul (talk) 09:54, 9 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]
So to be clear; you believe that the lead sentence should say his nationality, not ethnicity? I guess I can agree with that. 117Avenue (talk) 02:50, 13 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Given how unnecessarily contentious the above was, I hesitate to start anything, but... do we have any evidence that Higa identifies as Japanese-American, or as being of Japanese descent? Among a great many people in the Okinawan-American community (especially in Hawaii, where Higa was born and raised), Okinawan is seen as being a separate ethnic identity from Japanese; i.e. a great many people of Okinawan descent decidedly do NOT identify as Japanese (or Japanese-American, or of Japanese descent), seeing it as being a separate ethnic identity entirely. Seems to me Wikipedia should describe Higa accurately according to how he (and/or his family) identify. (You wouldn't call an Irish person "British", right?) LordAmeth (talk) 11:02, 25 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Semi-protected edit request on 7 February 2016

One of the words on the page is 'synching' although it should be 'syncing'. WilliamjShore (talk) 21:36, 7 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Done Corrected it. thanks for pointing that out Cannolis (talk) 22:33, 7 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-protected edit request on 17 May 2016

Update the number of main channel (nigahiga) subscribers from 16 million to 17 million.[1] Nightwing05 (talk) 11:24, 17 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

References

  1. ^ https://www.youtube.com/ryanhiga
Done. — Andy W. (talk · ctb) 19:27, 17 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-protected edit request on 27 September 2016

remove template at bottom per Wikipedia:Templates_for_discussion/Log/2016_September_13#Template:Dance_Showdown 198.102.155.115 (talk) 18:20, 27 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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