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Help with editing Wikipedia page Stanfords

Dear all, I joined the Wikipedia community close to 20 years ago and have not made many contributions but enjoy the small edits that I can assist with. Now I need some help editing a page that I am closely linked to personally and am concerned that the actual editing should be done by someone other than myself. The page is for Stanfords a UK business that my brother and I are shareholders of and I am now Chairman and CEO (now you see the conflict). I can provide content and fact checking if requested. Thanks for offers of help. Vivien Godfrey — Preceding unsigned comment added by Vgodfrey (talk • contribs) 20:55, 23 October 2018 (UTC)

Welcome to the Teahouse, Vgodfrey and thanks for your honesty. Please read the policies on conflict of interest and paid editing. Use the article talk page to propose changes, and provide links to reliable sources. See Template:Request edit for the code that will bring your request to the attention of other editors. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 21:15, 23 October 2018 (UTC)

You may also consider asking for input at the relevant wikiprojects, see the article's talkpage. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 08:02, 24 October 2018 (UTC)

Hi Vgodfrey. I contributed additional info to the article, including several reliable sources. I have also added sections to give it more coherence. You can check the changes made by comparing the edits to the previous version in the article's history. I would like to confirm the case of Staunton & Son. Was it acquired? Your website only stated that the company "was in a position to acquire...". Feel free to revert the changes. If you have questions, please let me know. - Darwin Naz (talk) 23:04, 26 October 2018 (UTC)

Glock article update.

On the "Glock" article it says that "The Glock Model 35 is the current service pistol for the Kentucky State Police". An article of the Kentucky Law Enforcement magazine dated July 25th 2017 (https://www.klemagazine.com/home/2017/7/25/better-bullets) states that they changed from Glock 35 to 9mm weapons. How to edit that? Remove the sentence or is the article up to date? Any suggestion? Thanks. --Anon_york (talk) 20:32, 25 October 2018 (UTC)

One possibility would be for you to change the "is" to "was", add wording along the lines of

", but by the Summer of 2017 they had reverted from the Glock 35 back to to 9mm weapons because of improvements in 9mm bullets, making them superior to the Glock 35's .40 ammunition in performance and economy as measured in the standard "FBI Protocol" tests",

and cite them to the source you mention above. I am assuming that the online magazine concerned can be considered a Reliable source, and that in the context of the article this will not be considered too trivial a fact: if other editors disagree and revert your edit, you can discuss it with them on the article's Talk page.

This is a good illustration of why it's usually a bad idea to use terms like "currently" in Wikipedia articles – even if the specific information you have found (for which thanks, Anon york) were not available, an edit to replace the "currently" terminology with more date-dependent wording (e.g. "On such-and such a date the KSP adopted the Glock 35 as . . . .") would have been advisable.

I wonder in passing if we should have an article on the FBI Protocol? {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} 2.218.14.42 (talk) 21:19, 25 October 2018 (UTC)

Hi 2.218.14.42, thanks so much for your suggestion, this has been amended and respectively cited. I agree with you about the use of the word "currently" in any wikipedia article due to constant updates and changes that occur in any subject. I will keep this information handy for future reference.--Anon_york (talk) 20:53, 26 October 2018 (UTC)

Google Indexing

Hi there

I created the page Jean Morrison but for some reason the page is not being indexed by google at all, even after searching "Jean Morrison wikipedia" in the google search bar. Any idea why this might be happening? I checked for no index tags but cannot find anything. Thanks - Tommyvanj (talk) 21:24, 25 October 2018 (UTC)

@Tommyvanj: Welcome to the Teahouse. Yes, the answer is simple. Virtually all new pages created here now go through a process of review - or new page patrolling. Until they do, Google isn't permitted to index them. This stops spammers trying to promote their favourite subject on search engines, and introduces an opportunity for some quality control and feedback to article creators. Then, of course, there's the catchup for Google to actually crawl and index the page. There are currently 3,675 such pages awaiting 'patrolling' by a small band of experienced volunteers here, and this review process can take between a few minutes for straight-forward pages and (at the moment) two months, so please be patient. Regards, Nick Moyes (talk) 22:39, 25 October 2018 (UTC)

Makes sense, thanks for the info. - Tommyvanj (talk) 07:50, 26 October 2018 (UTC)

Hi Nick Moyes Just to clarify, are you referring to pages that have already been approved? So there is now a second review step once a page has been created and approved? - Tommyvanj (talk) 18:35, 27 October 2018 (UTC)

@Tommyvanj: Yes. Pages that are moved into mainspace from Articles for Creation are still subject to the normal New Page Patrol. And any page can subsequently be put forward by any editor (including a reviewer) for a deletion discussion. I think a good, current example of that would be Wests Illawarra Aquatic Swim Club. Regards, Nick Moyes (talk) 20:57, 27 October 2018 (UTC)

vague phrasing - how to spot it?

On the following page - Warrantless searches in the United States - there is a notice from 2007 complaining of vague phrasing. Since it has been ten years, I've decided to fix these problems. Can someone please review and notify me of the vague phrasing so I can fix it. Thanks! Seahawk01 (talk) 03:37, 26 October 2018 (UTC)

I couldn't find the vague phrase - so deleted the tag. See Category:Articles_with_weasel_words for more work :-) . Regards, Ariconte (talk) 03:56, 26 October 2018 (UTC)

Thanks for the help, I also bookmarked the link! Seahawk01 (talk) 04:25, 26 October 2018 (UTC)

@Ariconte and Seahawk01: I fixed the category link in Ariconte's post above. The trick to make a link (rather than categorize the page, or include an image, or...) is to start the link with a colon. Tigraan^{Click here to contact me} 09:11, 26 October 2018 (UTC)

@Tigraan: nice trick :-) Seahawk01 (talk) 04:18, 29 October 2018 (UTC)

Google Crowdsource Icon/Screenshots

Hello,

I am working on an article for the Android application Google Crowdsource, which is a requested article on the Google WikiProject (currently still working in my sandbox). I am trying to add pictures to my article, so I tried uploading the Google Crowdsource icon to Wikimedia Commons, but it was deleted due to copyright/permissions concerns. I know that a logo like this should be fair use, so how should I label it as such when I request un-deletion?

The images I plan to use can be found on the Google Play page for the Crowdsrouce app, here

GCSChris (talk) 16:18, 26 October 2018 (UTC)

Hey GCSChris. The image looks pretty simple, and Google is a US company, where the threshold for originality is pretty high. I wonder if User:Jcb would consider restoring the image as too simple to qualify for copyright. Otherwise, after the article is published, you can file a request at Files for Upload and we can get it added under a claim of fair use. GMG^talk 17:09, 26 October 2018 (UTC)

Yes, GCSChris; Logons are one of the common uses of non-free content, and I would guess that icons might meet be seen the same way; but they must be uploaded to Wikipedia, not commons, and one of the non-free content criteria is that the item is used in at least one article, and may not be used in drafts. So wait until the draft is accepted as an article, and then upload and add it. --ColinFine (talk) 20:21, 26 October 2018 (UTC)

Okay, thanks so much! I will put the article into mainspace and then look into uploading it to Wikipedia instead of the commons. GCSChris (talk) 15:48, 27 October 2018 (UTC)

Article to write

Hi, thanks for inviting me. I would like to write my own article. I am thinking of maybe doing one on COLOPL, Inc. because they make games I enjoy, and there is no article about them. Should I do it, should I not? Also, I would like help if possible. Thanks. Nbissocool (talk) 16:23, 26 October 2018 (UTC) Nbissocool

Hey Nbissocool. The first thing is to gather up what sources you can find that meet Wikipedia's standards for reliability, which usually means things like newspapers, magazines and books. Looking around, it does seem that there are quite a few to choose from. If you want you can start the article as a draft using the Article Creation Wizard and submit it for review at our Articles for Creation project, where it can be reviewed by an experienced editor who can offer feedback prior to publishing. GMG^talk 17:12, 26 October 2018 (UTC)

Hello, Nbissocool, and welcome to the Teahouse. You certainly can write a new article, once you've determined that the subject meets the criteria for notability; but it is quite hard to write an article in a way that is accepted, especially for a new editor, and I suggest you don't rush into this. We have millions (literally) of existing articles which could be improved. In any case, I suggest you read the essay your first article. Happy editing! --ColinFine (talk) 20:30, 26 October 2018 (UTC)

why do i have to type in the capatcha again even if i get it right? (sometimes)

the question is above. answer the question below. (and please leave a message on my talk page when you responded to this question) 174.60.119.235 (talk) 16:54, 26 October 2018 (UTC)

Hey anon. I'm not really sure unfortunately. It sounds like it might be a technical problem. While there is no requirement on Wikipedia to register an account, doing so would help you avoid certain nuisances, such as the need to enter captchas at all. GMG^talk 17:14, 26 October 2018 (UTC)

Images deleted

Hello, a user deleted all the images in my article, saying they’re horrible low quality and/or copyrighted. Since the same images where already in the Wikipedia database and used for the Italian page, I’m not sure of what I can do about it. I received permission from the owner to use on Wikipedia. Plus, the page is now marked as “multiple issues”, because someone thinks I’m Carlo Prevale or something. I’m definitely not. How can I prove that the whole page is totally legit?

Thanks in advance for you help! Kodymix (talk) 17:00, 26 October 2018 (UTC)

@Kodymix: Permission "to use on Wikipedia" isn't sufficient.

The copyright holder needs to send a declaration of consent, releasing the photograph under an acceptable free license. See WP:CONSENT. ~Anachronist (talk) 18:06, 26 October 2018 (UTC)

@Anachronist: I get it! Thank you so much! Will this solve the “autobiography” issue too?Kodymix (talk) 09:44, 27 October 2018 (UTC)

@Kodymix: No, that tag will stay forever, if you're referring to Prevale (DJ). The best way to get that removed would be to move it back to draft space and submit it for review via Wikipedia:Articles for creation. If that article is about you, you should never have moved it to main article space yourself due to your conflict of interest. Only a neutral reviewer should do that. ~Anachronist (talk) 22:40, 27 October 2018 (UTC)

Adding my picture

I am new in here. I can't add my picture in here. So can you tell me that how to add picture in Wikipedi. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rithik Debnath (talk • contribs) 17:50, 26 October 2018 (UTC)

See the reply above regarding copyright. The photographer owns the copyright, not the subject. As for uploading images, try Wikipedia:File Upload Wizard. ~Anachronist (talk) 18:04, 26 October 2018 (UTC)

Reference desk feature effectively closed to users

So you have effectively stopped to take new questions from ordinary users.is this going to be permanent??oh no please revert.103.24.109.210 (talk) 18:21, 26 October 2018 (UTC)

The Reference Desks were subject to a DDOS-type attack during the previous week that resumed within a few minutes of protection expiring. The current protections will automatically expire within a few days (check each page for the date and time that expires) and if the troll who was attacking the reference desks doesn't come back, we'll be fine. If they do, we'll have to return the protections. This may be inconvenient for you, but there's really nothing else that can be done. --Jayron32 18:29, 26 October 2018 (UTC)

...other than register an account. shoy (reactions) 18:37, 26 October 2018 (UTC)

I've registered several accounts and made 10 edits each, now just waiting for the protection to expire :) 45.119.91.111 (talk) 20:47, 26 October 2018 (UTC)

Making a new page for my company

Hi everyone!

I'm a new registered editor, previously anonymous (IP addressed) editor, and I wanted to inquire about the best way to create a page for the company I'm currently working for.

The company is an expanding freight/transportation business and would like to have a credible Wikipedia page. I was looking on other freight/transportation companies, such as FedEx and United, to get an idea of what information is appropriate to list on such pages. I do not want to make this page an advertisement, as no Wikipedia page should never feel like it's an advertisement, but I've noticed many of the other pages list services.

My questions are:

- What advice can you give for uploading a company Wikipedia page for the first time?

- How many citations and sources are needed to make the Wikipedia page most credible?

- Are there any hard dos and don'ts I should be aware of in regards to creating a company Wikipedia page?

- Are there any resources you can recommend for someone who hasn't created a new Wikipedia page before?

Thank you in advance for any and all advice.

- Jeslynra

Hello Jeslynra, and welcome to the Teahouse. Sorry to be negative, but it is probably a bad idea to even try. If you do decide to attempt this anyway, please take your time and read WP:PAID, Wikipedia:Conflict of interest, Wikipedia:Notability (organizations and companies) and Wikipedia:Your first article. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 20:15, 26 October 2018 (UTC)

Draft: Geological History of Nevada

This draft has two "needs". First, it needs a heavy copy-edit. It really doesn't read well. Second, it then needs acceptance. Can someone here provide the copy-edit to bring this up to minimum standards for article space? Thank you. Robert McClenon (talk) 18:59, 26 October 2018 (UTC)

Hi Robert McClenon. I'm afraid I don't have time to offer to go through this myself right now, but I am going to ping Zircon 2 who has created a lot of really new geological articles (including his recently created Geology of Nevada). I'm sure his input here would be really useful. Regards, Nick Moyes (talk) 19:21, 26 October 2018 (UTC)

Did you use bold in the headings? Well, I guess that's easiest to fix in the source editor. It could probably also do with a couple of links. I'm editing it right now (in case someone else sees this and doesn't know if someone is already working on it). If I don't write anything within ten minutes, it's probably okay for others to start editing it too. – Pretended leer {talk} 19:34, 26 October 2018 (UTC)

That references section was created manually, which means I have to move the references into the text and check they're in the right places. Probably taking another ten minutes. – Pretended leer {talk} 19:45, 26 October 2018 (UTC)

Taking even longer... maybe I should save the part I've already done. – Pretended leer {talk} 20:56, 26 October 2018 (UTC)

The formatting was easy enough, the references took some time. Working out what some text is intended to mean is tricky. Did you use speech recognition to write it? I'm guessing you wrote "relief" instead of "reef".

I've tried to wikify the first parts of the article, but I'm too tired to finish today. If anyone else wants to, they can try to improve it further. One thing you could try to do is making the language more formal. Another is adding internal links where relevant. Just don't have multiple links to the same article.

I guess the writer might want to read the Manual of Style. – Pretended leer {talk} 20:56, 26 October 2018 (UTC)

@Robert McClenon: Having come back and read through this draft in detail, my recommendation is that it is declined, predominantly on the grounds that a similar article already exists which gives a more technical and far less fanciful version of events. There is far too much overlap between this draft and the Geology of Nevada article, and far too many gross errors and flights of fancy in it, to justify spending time trying to copy edit and to check references to end up with something that, in essence, already pre-exists.

That said, I then spotted this diff in which the article creator stated that they are a university geology student, and asked you for a peer review on the article. This suggests they do accept your rejection, which I think is fully justified. So, I would offer the following observations and criticism to a student of geology, which perhaps I would not offer in such a manner to another new editor had they not requested it:

• The quality of writing and lack of proper structure suggests that the page creator is a first year student, and that this may be their first writing assignment, and that English may be their second language. I wish them well in their studies (it's a fascinating science), and I'm sure they will look back as their course progresses and recognise their mistakes here. The good news is that their geological skills will only improve from here on in. Great teaching makes great students great. But right now, some basic errors are unforgivable from a geology student! e.g.The geologic history of Nevada begins around 3.5 millions years ago. I don't need to explain this - they should instantly appreciate their error.
• I have a basic geological understanding (though none of it relating to this geographic area), but feel that the article creator's has written in a voice more akin to a fairy tale than to the neutral voice of an authoritative and well-researched encyclopaedia article. That's not to suggest that it is not based on factual sources, but I couldn't distinguish fanciful writing from fact. I expect clear, factual, simple-to-read statements distilled down and presented in simple terms, but based on well-cited academic sources. I couldn't tell whether they were based on nursery books. I do apologise if this sounds harsh, but that's the reality when I read sentences like: One day, a large meteor, travelling faster than 20,000 miles per hour, fell down in Nevada, 100 miles north of today's Las Vegas.
• In terms of Wikipedia's requirements for a draft article, the following apply:

• The title of the article should be emboldened within the lead paragraph per our Manual of Style - it is missing completely. The lead does not effectively summarise the article, as one would expect it to. It should have introduced both the area and summarised the geological timespan of the article.
• It's was good to see quite a few inline citations, and correct use of repeated citations - something new editors often overlook. So, well done there. However, the references are not well structured to Wikipedia's standards and, where available, could have been hyperlinked to online versions. Page numbers could have been used to show where statements came from in the original sources.
• The use of headings and subheadings is good. Though I think another editor has since formatted these, removing inappropriate emboldening, for example. The actual heading titles themselves are not acceptable. Unless "The big squeeze" and "The Great Nevada Meteor impact" are formal terms, these are not OK to use. We want children to be able to understand our articles, but we're writing encyclopaedic pages, not museum information leaflets, so we shouldn't make up titles that are suggestive of genuine technical terms. Headings should also be in sentence case, per WP:MOSCAPS.
• I really don't know where to start in critiquing this sentence, so I shalln't: After a few decades of the Alamo Breccia impact, what we call Pangea started to create an extraordinary look to all the continents together.

I could go on, but I'm feeling bad enough already by laying into the author (Maitraye) in a way that normally we would never do at the Teahouse. But that was the invitation made to us, so I earnestly hope this helps, and I ask them not to be too downhearted by my harsh words here. (My first essays at uni were pretty rubbish too, but I gradually improved, as no doubt their's will, too. I could certainly never have written one in a second language, as I don't really have one!) My suggestion, Robert, is that you move the draft page back into their personal sandbox, and paste these comments from me wherever seems most appropriate. (If you make a direct link back to the Teahouse it will later need updating as, after three days or so, our links to this page get broken due to archiving)

Finally, I have just worked through the existing article on Geology of Nevada by Zircon 2 and have flagged quite a number of paragraphs where citations are completely absent and most definitely needed. So even that article isn't perfect. If this student wants to, adding inline citations could easily be one task that a geologist with access to good sources could usefully contribute towards. I wish them well in their studies... ...and their next assignment. Geology rocks! Regards from the UK, Nick Moyes (talk) 00:21, 27 October 2018 (UTC)

What are the prime steps I have to follow for a established person's editing.

If I will start a edit for a person. Who is established in his career, social life etc. what prime steps I need to follow. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jeslynra (talk • contribs)

Hello! Your question is unclear, but if you mean that you'd like to create an article on someone, you can find guidance in the following: Wikipedia:Biographies of living persons, Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Biography and Wikipedia:Your first article. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 20:21, 26 October 2018 (UTC)

"...for a person." implies that you either know the person or are being paid by the person. Different rules apply. If so, say so here and you will get guidance. David notMD (talk) 21:03, 26 October 2018 (UTC)

How do I correct a caption artwork that I have already downloaded to a site.

I have made a typo in the caption of the Stage (Celerity) Wagon on the site I have been working on titled "Butterfield Overland Mail." I misspelled the word "celerity" as celeity. How do I correct this and any other caption on my added artwork-media? Gerald T. Ahnert (talk) 19:40, 26 October 2018 (UTC)Gerald T. Ahnert

Hello, Gerald T. Ahnert. You have added the image to the article without giving an explicit caption, so the software has just used the name of the file. So the easiest change is to edit the caption to the image in Butterfield Overland Mail. However, this will leave the name of the image file with the error in it, which may or may not worry you. If it does, you need to go to it in Commons commons:File:Butterfield's Stage (Celeity) Wagon partly designed by John Butterfield. Sixty-six were employed from Fort Smith, Arkansas, to Los Angeles, California.jpg and request a move (rename) there (it's under "More" if you've got the relevant gadget enabled in Commons, which it is by default). Once it's been renamed in Commons, there will be a redirect left there, so the link to it from the Wikipedia article will still work; but it would be a good idea to update that link.

If you are going to rename the Commons file anyway, I would advise renaming it to something much shorter, such as "Butterfield's Stage (Celerity) Wagon.jpg". The longer text is still there in the description, and can be added in the caption if the image is used in any other articles, but the name is not so unwieldy. --ColinFine (talk) 20:56, 26 October 2018 (UTC)

Thanks for the answer. I will give it a try. As a follow-up question, where is the explicit caption entered on the commons form? Gerald T. Ahnert (talk) 21:32, 26 October 2018 (UTC)Gerald T. Ahnert

Hello again, Gerald. The caption isn't in Commons: it's something that you set when you link to the image from Wikipedia (and you might well use the same image in different articles with different captions). See Help:Files#Using files. --ColinFine (talk) 22:44, 26 October 2018 (UTC)

How do I "publish" a draft page?

I created a page, in sandbox I believe, and would like to publish/add it to wikipedia. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:La_Venganza_de_Cucamonga — Preceding unsigned comment added by Gdiede (talk • contribs) 2018-10-26T22:57:22 (UTC)

Hello, Gdiede, and welcome to the Teahouse. (Please in future sign any contributions to discussion pages like this one with four tildes (~~~~) so that we don't have to go hunting to see who is asking). There are two ways of getting an article from draft space into main space (but I don't recomment you use either of them right now - see below).

If you're very sure that the draft is in an acceptable state, you can simply move it to mainspace; but if you do this, it is immediately subject to all Wikipedia's rules on notability, sourcing, neutratlity etc, and it may get deleted it if it is not satisfactory. A better approach in most cases is to submit it for review, and I have added a box to Draft:La Venganza de Cucamonga with a button to submit it when you think it is ready.

As I said above, I advise you not to submit it at present, because it will certainly be declined, because it does not reference any sources at all. A Wikipedia article without sources is nearly worthless, because a reader has no way of knowing whether anything in it is reliable (even if it started that way, it might have been vandalised). Please see referencing for beginners, and Your first article. --ColinFine (talk) 23:09, 26 October 2018 (UTC)

People from Enfield town

Hello, I was thinking it would be good to add Dusty Springfield (Mary O'Brien) (and a link to her Wikipedia page) to the "People from Enfield Town" web page.

I assume you mean the category with that name.  Done. Rojomoke (talk) 06:02, 27 October 2018 (UTC)

Need help with Info Box

Hello everyone. I am new to Wikipedia. I have made a few edits using visual editor and am planning to write an article using the same method. Visual editor is pretty user-friendly, but i dont know how to add an info box using it. Can please anyone guide me. Also has anyone used the visual editor to write an article? If yes, then some tips would be really welcomed.Tasneem.tech (talk) 05:27, 27 October 2018 (UTC)Tasneem.tech

Hello Tasneem.tech; welcome to the Teahouse. To add an infobox in the visual editor, click the "Insert" option in the VE toolbar, and select "Template" from the drop down menu. You should now see an "add a template" field, where you will put the name of the infobox without the Template: prefix (e.g. Infobox person, infobox film), and click "add template." Fill out the name field first, which will usually always be the name of the page (e.g. John Smith), but if the page is disambiguated, then it would be without the disambiguation (e.g., put John Smith for the name parameter if the title of the page is John Smith (military)) and then click "Add more information." Here, you can add a number of customizable parameters by clicking "Show [X] more fields." For example, if you're using {{Infobox person}}, you might want to scroll to "Birth date," click that, and then enter the parameter. However, most fields are not necessary in infoboxes except in special cases, so you should only fill out the ones necessary. You can typically find information about when fields should be filled out and what they should contain on the documentation page of the infobox template; for Infobox person, it would be add Template:Infobox person/doc. When you're done, click "Insert," and remember that you can always modify the infobox later as needed. This may seem complicated, but it's actually fairly straightforward once you get the hang of it. Don't hesitate to let me know if you have any further questions. Regards, --SkyGazer 512 ^{Oh no, what did I do this time?} 16:11, 27 October 2018 (UTC)

Profile publish

Hi,

I'm new to editing at Wikipedia and was just invited to Teahouse.

I like to know what next to do for a profile page to be uploaded.

Thank you

Abide880 — Preceding unsigned comment added by ‎ Abide880 (talk • contribs) 2018-10-27T06:39:10 (UTC)

Hello, Abide880, and welcome to the Teahouse, and to Wikipedia. I'm guessing you are wanting to create an article about Ayodeji Abidemi Olarinoye. Note that I say "an article about", not a "profile for" - Wikipedia is an encyclopaedia, and contains articles, not profiles. The main difference, as I see it, is that an encyclopaedia article should be based almost entirely on what people unconnected with the subject have chosen to publish about the subject, and not on what the subject says or wants to say.

Writing a new article is one of the hardest things to do on Wikipedia, and I always advise new editors that their time would be better spent, and the value they can add to the encyclopaedia hugely increased, by spending a few weeks or months improving some of our millions of existing articles and learning how Wikipedia works before trying to create a new article. In any case, please read Your first article before you try it.

Forgive me if I'm jumping to conclusions, but from your user name, I'm guessing that you might be Ayodeji Abidemi Olarinoye. If this is so, then please understand that writing an article about yourself is a very bad idea. It is strongly discouraged (see the essay I linked to) and may not be what you want anyway: see An article about yourself isn't necessarily a good thing. You may share some information about yourself on your user page, but this should be primarily about you as a Wikipedia editor, and it must not be made to look like an article. (User pages are not indexed, so it won't show up in search engines anyway).

I hope you will stay and help us improve the encyclopaedia: perhaps you can provide some expertise for articles about sport in Nigeria. (You might like to have a look at WP:WikiProject Nigeria and WP:WikiProject Sports). But if you were thinking of writing about yourself, please give up that idea.

Finally: when you post on a discussion page like this one, please sign your post with four tildes (~~~~): it enables people to find you and reply to you more easily. --ColinFine (talk) 09:50, 27 October 2018 (UTC)

A question

Hi there ~ I'm a newcomer here. Recently I've noticed something: You can publish an article without making it a draft and waiting for review. Just search for something, and there'll be a sentence "You may create the page ###" . So what will happen if I create an article like this? Will it still be reviewed afterwards?
Well, the reason why I ask about it is that my draft was just declined for its content, which is about a self-published manga. I've been told that it's not notable and shouldn't be a Wikipedia article. So I want to just create the article. Is that capable? (I just want that article to be kept in Wikipedia, even not in the encyclopedic space)
Thanks!Brotherdogger (talk) 05:43, 27 October 2018 (UTC)

Hi Brotherdogger. Articles can be created directly in the mainspace, and many do people choose this method. Many times, however, such articles usually end up WP:DELETED for one reason or another; sometimes they're speedily deleted, sometimes they're WP:PRODDED for deletion and sometimes they're deleted as the result of a review. There are almost six million articles, with more being added everyday; so, it can be hard to thoroughly check out every new page/article created. It might take a long time to find, unless the article for some reason starts to attract lots of attention, but the hope is that eventually someone will get to them (e.g., a new page reviewer) and find the clunkers and tag them for deletion.

Now, if you've been told that the manga you want to write about is not a suitable topic for a Wikipedia article, then I'm assuming you were given that advice in good faith. If you then still push ahead and create said article, then it will almost certainly end up deleted. So, you need to ask yourself not only whether it's worth your time and energy, but also whether it's worth the Wikipedia community's time and energy to do such a thing. If you're interested in manga, then you probably can find many other already existing articles about manga which you can help improve. Take a look at Wikipedia:WikiProject Anime and manga see if anyone in that WikiProject can offer any suggestions on articles which could use some work. -- Marchjuly (talk) 07:05, 27 October 2018 (UTC)

Once deleted, a search on the title will go to a note that there had been an article by that name, since deleted, but only administrators, checkusers, and oversighters can view the content of deleted articles. David notMD (talk) 09:07, 27 October 2018 (UTC)

How active are the stubs' "talk" page?

Hi, I'm new to editing. Posted two questions on stubs' talk here and here. Will they be picked up usually, or should I submit an edit directly? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rason.lyc (talk • contribs) 10:21, 27 October 2018 (UTC)

From what I've seen most talk pages aren't even that active to begin with, were the articles stubs or not. Usually when I leave something to a talk page I just mark the page as watched and forget all about it, so that when and if someone replies or creates a new topic to the page I'll get a notification. If it's urgent I'll either boldy edit the article or choose a person whose contributed most from the history page and ask them on their talk page. To answer your solfege question, yes citation is required. (sign your comments with four dashes in the future) NinuKinuski (talk) 17:38, 27 October 2018 (UTC)

EverybodyWiki Bios & Wiki site

Hi I found a site called "EverybodyWiki Bios & Wiki"[1] it looks very similar to wikipedia and it has some articles that do not exist in Wikipedia. I was wonder if its related to wikipedia or if I can copy paste some articles from it to here. SharabSalam (talk) 14:26, 27 October 2018 (UTC)

Welcome to the Teahouse, SharabSalam. I think what you are suggesting would be a really, really bad idea. Did you read its stated purpose, which says:

1. Everybodywiki tries to save articles which are currently marked for deletion on WikiPedia.
2. You can write your own biography, even if you're unknown. An article on Everybodywiki doesn't need to meet any kind of notability standards or arbitrary requirements, nor be famous to be kept.

So, we've got a site that has lifted Wikipedia content of pages flagged for deletion, plus biographies that anyone can write about themselves, no matter how non-notable they are, and based on nothing but their own opinions about themselves! On every level, trying to add content from it back into Wikipedia would be an extraordinary bad idea, and I urge you not to try, please. Nick Moyes (talk) 21:33, 27 October 2018 (UTC)

@Nick Moyes: Thank you for your advice and your answer. SharabSalam (talk) 22:40, 27 October 2018 (UTC)

How to publish an article from draft ?

I am new to Wikipedia , i had written an article on one of the fast growing media houses in south India but the article is in draft but i am not seeing an option to publish the article .

Here is the article link : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:South_Indian_Logic — Preceding unsigned comment added by Goutham0006 (talk • contribs) 16:46, 27 October 2018 (UTC)

You removed the submit button yourself in this edit when you removed the line that included the note " Important, do not remove this line before article has been created". The draft is obviously not yet ready to be submitted for review as it has no references. Please read about notability, about references, and the other advice in WP:Your first article. --David Biddulph (talk) 16:57, 27 October 2018 (UTC)

How can I create eg. WP:OR link in edit summary?

I wanted to request a rollback first, but seeing as there isn't a simple way to do that other than finding a user with rollback rights and ask them directly I decided to manually edit it out. However I don't know how to create a link inside the edit summary, so I'm hesitating on editing the article in question. How do I do this, I've seen other people do it so..? NinuKinuski (talk) 17:26, 27 October 2018 (UTC)

Hello, NinuKinuski. The same way you would in the article text: [[WP:OR]] should do that. At least in the source editor. – Pretended leer {talk} (edited message, so replacing timestamp)17:57, 27 October 2018 (UTC) – 17:59, 27 October 2018 (UTC)

Frank Gansz Jr.

My article for Frank Gansz Jr. was not approved, citing that because he has only been an assistant coach, he doesn't meet notability guidelines. However, I will use the example of Jerry Schuplinksi, an assistant coach with the New England Patriots, who has a Wikipedia page, to suggest Frank Gansz Jr. should have one as well. Gansz Jr. has several years of experience working in the National Football League, and on that basis, should be equally as notable as Schuplinski. Can this be re-reviewed?— Preceding unsigned comment added by Hamiltontigercats (talk • contribs)

See WP:OSE. All articles are judged independently. It's possible to have two assistant coaches, one notable, one not notable. See WP:NOTABILITY or WP:NGRIDIRON --which was already shown to you in the draft-- to see why. –Ammarpad (talk) 19:01, 27 October 2018 (UTC)

Adding fields/text to bio boxes

I would like to add a field called "influenced" to the bio box on the right side of this page - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Komlos I'd like to put this new field under the "influences" field. While Wikipedia allows me to add the field (and names) in edit mode, it does not publish the changes I make. Any suggestions? Thanks for your help.

Hello @JHKomlos:, and welcome to the Teahouse. Generally templates (incl. infoboxes) only accept parameters that are pre-defined in the template, unknown parameter names are ignored and may result in an error message during preview. You can check a list of valid parameters in the template documentation (usually available at Template:template name). Adding "new" fields in that sense is only possible by changing the template itself based on consensus. Per the RfC at Template talk:Infobox economist the parameter "influenced" was removed from this particular template after some discussion, so you cannot use it at the moment. But for more technical details and background info it might be better to ask at the linked talkpage or one of the involved editors in the linked discussion. For general technical questions WP:VPT is also a good forum (see info on top for more details). GermanJoe (talk) 18:39, 27 October 2018 (UTC)

Please read also WP:COI, and especially WP:SELFCITE, in case you are the author of the cited publications. I have left you some additional information on your user talkpage, and removed some of the more problematic edits. When in doubt, please suggest such changes on the article's talkpage instead of adding them yourself. Thank you for your consideration. GermanJoe (talk) 21:37, 27 October 2018 (UTC)

Biography Nisha Mandani

Hi I need your help regarding creating my Biography Page for Nisha Mandani, i posted it on sandbox but it was rejected because it says it is party about the person and partly about organization. but i was very carefull when i was writing that page. please help me our and guide me how to make my page again .

thankyou — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nisha Mandani (talk • contribs)

Nisha Mandani Hi there and Welcome to Wikipedia. Your Draft has been rejected because it does not cite any sources, Please see This page for more information on how to cite pages. Also I have tagged your article for speedy deletion under the criteria WP:G11. Please don't be discouraged that your article has not been accepted, it happens all the time. (If you look in my talk page you'll see that all my articles submitted have not been accepted.) Thanks for reaching out to the teahouse and Happy Editing! :) Thegooduser Let's Chat 🍁 20:29, 27 October 2018 (UTC)

@Nisha Mandani: Hello and welcome to the Teahouse. I'm very sorry, but I needed to delete your draft, as it was promotional in nature. You seem to have a common misunderstanding as to what Wikipedia is. Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, and not social media or other forum for you to tell the world about yourself and your organization. As an encyclopedia, Wikipedia is only interested in what independent reliable sources state about article subjects. Autobiographies are strongly discouraged per the autobiography policy. People naturally write favorably about themselves, and it is exceedingly difficult for people to write about themselves with the neutral point of view required by Wikipedia. To succeed, you would have to forget everything you know about yourself and only write based on what independent sources state. Most people cannot do that. I would strongly advise you against further attempts to write about yourself here. 331dot (talk) 20:31, 27 October 2018 (UTC)

Email Notice

What happened to the Email Notices? Thegooduser Let's Chat 🍁 20:22, 27 October 2018 (UTC)

Hi Thegooduser. There are many types of email notices. What do you have in mind? If you mean on-wiki notifications that another user has mailed you via Wikipedias mail interface then it works for me. It requires that "Email from other user" is enabled at Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-echo. PrimeHunter (talk) 22:47, 27 October 2018 (UTC)

Resolved at Wikipedia:Village pump (technical)#Email Notice where Thegooduser revealed which type of email notice it was about. PrimeHunter (talk) 23:35, 28 October 2018 (UTC)

writting an article

I would like to know how can I write an article, and get feed back.Thank you kindly,Clarence C.

See Wikipedia:Articles for creation and Wikipedia:Your first article. ~Anachronist (talk) 01:08, 28 October 2018 (UTC)

Page Ratings

Hi group! Just made my first official contribution, and I'm super excited. My article was assessed as a "C", which left me happy at the chance of an approval and sad at the rating. Is it possible to improve the "rating" of a page, and is there a way I can see how Wikipedia pages have been rated, for my personal review. Many thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by DemolaSNC (talk • contribs)

Helps if you add the article name to your query with [[ ]] bracketing the article name so people can visit it. Wikipedia:Content assessment describes grades (class rankings). David notMD (talk) 01:41, 28 October 2018 (UTC)

While congratulations are in order for getting your first attempt at creating an article via Articles for Creation accepted (Femi Leye), I personally would have rated it Start-class. Many of the references are weak or inappropriate (interviews, Youtube, brief mention of Leye rather than paragraphs or more of description). I suggest you look at other musicians in the List of Nigerian musicians to see how those are rated, and if any were extensive enough to warrant B-class, or even C-class. David notMD (talk) 11:18, 28 October 2018 (UTC)

editing the wikipedia content

I had edited the content of Aniruddha Jatkar and provided sources where they were available. I am Aniruddha Jatkar's mother and hence had edited the content -i.e. corrected where wrong information was provided and added where the information was lacking. The entire information was deleted. My queries are

!. It is mentioned that he was born in Karnataka. Infact he was born in Mumbai but brought up in Karnataka. Now what kind of proof is required for this information. Do you need his passport copy / birth certificate and if it is what proof or source was provided by the previous writer?

2. I had mentioned in the relatives segment Dr. Bharathi Vishnuvardhan as his mother-in-law and provided source of two media clippings where there relationship was clearly mentioned. still it was deleted. why is this? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ujjwalaharshavardhan (talk • contribs) 05:37, 28 October 2018 (UTC)

Why my new article on wikipedia decline even i give my west ?

Hi , currently i know about a hosting company which is not on wikipedia . So i think to write about it in wikipedia but my article declined . Please any one see this article and tell me what mistakes shall i do ? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dinesh.shar (talk • contribs)

@Dinesh.shar: Hello and welcome to the Teahouse. As the decline notice indicates, the sources given do not indicate the subject merits a Wikipedia article. Not every company merits an article here, even within the same field. To merit an article, the company must have significant coverage in independent reliable sources that indicates how the notability guidelines for companies are met. The sources you offered do not have significant coverage of this company. If such sources do not exist, the company would not merit an article at this time. 331dot (talk) 08:32, 28 October 2018 (UTC)

How do I secorate my user page?

I notice alot of the user pages have nice decorations and boxes saying where the user is from, what they do what their interests are? How do I do this too?HOWARD ROARK laughed (talk) 09:51, 28 October 2018 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Userboxes/Galleries and Wikipedia:User page design center may be of assistance. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 10:28, 28 October 2018 (UTC)

Follow-up to Inquiry on a delayed update

Hello, there! Sophia Ghim again here. It has been now almost ten weeks since I have resubmitted my page for Dr. Paul (Sung Ro) Lee, and it has been sitting under a reviewing process for a while. Is there anything I missed or should I just keep waiting for the review? I'll appreciate hearing from you in this regard.

Kind regards. Sophia

Hi Sophia. First, please remember to "sign" your posts with four tildes, like this: ~~~~. Second, there is a backlog at AfC, and your article should be reviewed in the next couple of weeks, if it has been there 10 weeks. Be patient. Onel5969 ^{TT me} 10:56, 28 October 2018 (UTC)

Deleted page

My page has been deleted by a user, but it das completely accurate and legal how can i get it back ? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.53.142.67 (talk) 11:06, 28 October 2018‎ (UTC)

First sign your posts using four ~ at the end of your post. You would need to tell us the account the article was created under or the exact name of the article before we can give you any advice. ~ GB fan 11:14, 28 October 2018 (UTC)

Copy/paste

A user said that I should not copy & paste the plot for film from another website and that I must write this in my own words. Kinda strange because I am the one who wrote that text in the first place. I just copied/pasted it from my Macbook notes. How can I do ? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.53.142.67 (talk) 11:09, 28 October 2018‎ (UTC)

Unless the website where the summary was originally published has a compatible copyright to the one used here it can't be used here. ~ GB fan 11:16, 28 October 2018 (UTC)

More at Wikipedia:Copying text from other sources. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 11:58, 28 October 2018 (UTC)

How to add references to an article?

I want to add a reference to the article Didier Drogba about his retirement.Please tell me how to do it?Satin17 (talk) 13:22, 28 October 2018 (UTC)

Hello @Satin17: and welcome to the Teahouse. Simply put you add <ref>Reference details here.</ref> directly behind the sentence(s) you can verify with the given source. Please make sure to add as many distinctive source details (author, date, title, publisher, source link, etc.) as possible. But there are a whole lot more details to this aspect, depending on how much time you have :). You'll find a comprehensive beginner's guide at WP:Referencing for beginners. If you are interested in extensive reference work, I also highly recommend to look into citation templates like Template:cite book, Template:cite web, etc. These optional templates support a more consistent and cleaner reference layout, and help to avoid common formatting errors. By the way, this all assumes you are using a text editor. If you are using a graphical editor or other scripts to support referencing tasks, the handling might be more convenient depending on your personal preferences (you'll find some alternatives in the linked beginner's guide). But please feel free to ask here anytime, if you have additional questions about this or other Wikipedia-related aspects. GermanJoe (talk) 13:36, 28 October 2018 (UTC)

Induben Khakhrawala & Swiggy

Hi, I have created two pages both of which are drafts - Induben Khakhrawala & Swiggy. Can you tell me how to improve the articles?

Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by DhShah99 (talk • contribs) 14:41, 28 October 2018 (UTC)

I can help you with it. But remember to sign B. N .D | ✉ 14:48, 28 October 2018 (UTC)

Declined submission due to a potential COI

Hello,

I would really appreciate your help/ advice with the following - DRAFT:Marek Holeček. I have worked for many months on a draft about one the most accomplished climbers of today, Marek Holecek, and today I got a note it was declined due to a potential COI. I am very confused and honestly sad as I have researched information heavily tapping into hundreds of articles, magazines, TV and online interviews, etc...and feel I have done everything I could to create a high quality article. I don't know the subject personally, just love the mountaineering discipline.

Any guidance, help what to do to make it acceptable for submission would be really appreciated...

Thank you!— Preceding unsigned comment added by Vdrapalova (talk • contribs)

Welcome to The Teahouse, I have edited the draft for neutral tone and removed a lot of puffery, it could do with some mores sources, as whole sections are currently unreferenced. Good luck. Theroadislong (talk) 15:45, 28 October 2018 (UTC)

introducing

how are u all?? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kahmedreza (talk • contribs) 17:34, 28 October 2018 (UTC)

Hello Kahmedreza and welcome to the Teahouse. I'm glad you found your way here. We try to be a friendly place to answer questions about how to edit Wikipedia. I'm afraid that means that there is not much idle socializing here, so this is all the more answer I'm able to give to your question right now. Feel free to ask questions about editing Wikipedia, though. — jmcgnh^{(talk) (contribs)} 05:10, 29 October 2018 (UTC)

Webcron

The article titled "Webcron" needs an update I believe, according to this link http://barebonescms.com/documentation/webcron/ , Webcron is a retired product. What kind of update can be done? --Anon_york (talk) 18:02, 28 October 2018 (UTC)

Newbie!

Hello Teahouse! What suggestions would you give a newbie seeking to become a budding writer with an emphasis on the blockchain space? Thank you in advance and I am happy to be here. CryptoWriter (talk) 14:50, 28 October 2018 (UTC)

Hello newbie! One thing you should know is that that space has been problematic on WP, lots of promotion etc going on. Because of that, something called "General sanctions" is in effect, basically it means that WP admins can be swift and hard when it comes to WP:EDITWAR and other problematic behaviour. In short, it's something of a minefield, so tread carefully, more info at Wikipedia:General sanctions/Blockchain and cryptocurrencies. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 20:21, 28 October 2018 (UTC)

White genocide conspiracy theory - BIG problem!

I am a big supporter of Wikipedia. I refer my grandkids to it, and us it as a reference for any topic I am researching. Having said that, there are several problems with the article on "White genocide conspiracy theory" Clearly the editor who wrote the article is not a fan of Fox News or conservatives in general. As university journalism student in the 1970's, I had it drilled in me again and again, NEVER editorialize. Editorializing is interjecting a personal view in an article readable to anyone as factual. The editor of this article believes that several Fox news commentators (not anyone from CNN, MSNBC, etc.) are themselves white supremacist or inadvertent white supremacist at the minimum. He chooses as example obscure examples such as "...has frequently tweeted about the concept." Or "...supports and promotes the conspiracy theory." as just two examples. This is an extremely important topic. It is historic and has been a destructive element to American society for years. It is terrible that anyone would use this topic as a way of striking out at people they do not agree with, by trying to "out" public figures they want destroyed. I read the article expecting historic descriptions of how this conspiracy theory is used to defend terrorist attacks on a personal level. I can personally pick out comments from any public figure: Hillary Clinton: "White Supremacist Hillary Clinton's Sanctimonious Attack" (actual article) CNN reports that white people are racist by default Wikipedia does a good job of writing clean articles that tell the facts. Their editors do a good job of keeping personal politics out of their articles. This editor stepped over the line. Its one thing to believe Tucker Carslon or Anne Coulter have white supremacist ideas, its another thing to write it as a fact. Its worse to say someone supports white supremacy simply by not fighting it hard enough. I completely disagree with Anne Coulter or Tucker Carlson being include in this article. I don't know enough about the others to say. White supremacist are up front and loud about their insane ideology. Tucker Carlson and Anne Coulter have been very vocal about their hatred of white supremacy. I pray wikipedia is not being hijacked by any group with a particular ideology. wikipedia should be held to the highest standard of articles that can stand the test of time. This article seems more like something that might appear in a magazine article that they later make a retraction on.— Preceding unsigned comment added by ‎2601:601:9700:2766:84da:ab66:5d33:3d86 (talk)

Hello and welcome to the Teahouse. If you have any concerns about an article, you should discuss them on the article talk page, so that interested editors can see them. 331dot (talk) 21:13, 28 October 2018 (UTC)

Hello, IP user. I'd like to answer you at greater length than 331dot, though their advice is certainly sound.

You are right that Wikipedia's policies call for no editorialising in articles: articles are supposed to be neutral summaries of what the major published sources on the subject say, reflecting all views (weighted according to the quantity and reliability of the respective sources). You'll appreciate that White genocide conspiracy theory is an example of a topic which is highly controversial: one person's "truth" is another person's "propaganda". In fact, it is one of the articles currently subject to a moderating regime called Discretionary sanctions.

Like all Wikipedia articles, it is a work in progress, edited by many people. If you look at its history, you will see how many editors have contributed to it (and how often they have argued and reverted each other's changes).

You are most welcome to get involved in this, if you wish: I suggest you start by carefully reading all the discussions on the article's talk pages (probably including the three archives linked near the top). It is likely you will find that the issues you are concerned about have already been debated, but you may have something new to add.

Wikipedia works by consensus. Normally, if you come along saying "this article is badly written/biased/editorialising" I would advise you to be be bold and improve it (see WP:BOLD); but in an article of this type, I advise you to tread carefully: read the past discussions, and join in (or start a new discussion) if you can see a way to reach a consensus on moving forward.

Good luck! --ColinFine (talk) 22:32, 28 October 2018 (UTC)

Edit summary errors

Hello, I'm Rebestalic.

I'm currently experiencing technical issues regarding my edit summaries. On XTools, there is a pie chart showing a comparison between edits with summaries and edits without summaries. I clearly remember that I had 5 accidental no-summary edits. That number has now grown to 35... that's strange!

Thank you, Rebestalic (talk) 01:52, 29 October 2018 (UTC)

Hello again Rebestalic, fancy seeing you here at the Teahouse again.

When I looked, it had grown even larger. In looking over your contribution list, I spotted a few visual edits that lacked edit summaries but for the most part, you have been doing well at including edit summaries. I bet there's probably a tool that you could use to show which edits are considered to not have edit summaries, but I don't know what that tool is. I suggest that you not worry overmuch about the exact statistic and continue as you have been, conscientiously trying to include a useful edit summary for every edit. It's not like you can go back and insert an edit summary if one has been missed (except by doing a dummy edit, but that needs to be very close to the original to serve any purpose). I've not looked into the details, but I wonder what affect having an edit that was REVDELed has on the counts. — jmcgnh^{(talk) (contribs)} 02:57, 29 October 2018 (UTC)

Copyvio

Franklin's Lost Expedition has a 45.7 Percent Copyvio via earwigs copyvio... Thegooduser Let's Chat 🍁 02:17, 29 October 2018 (UTC)

Hello again Thegooduser and welcome back to the Teahouse.

The copyvio detector can find correlations but is not designed to determine which direction the copying has occurred. We expect editors to use some judgement about which direction and that requires some examination of the other sources to determine whether the copying is something that requires us to take action.

In this case, the lead paragraph of the Franklin article was copied by a site used by walking cane enthusiasts to give some context to a description of a particular cane (a narwhal tusk). The website carries a footnote attributing the summary to Wikipedia. The next three overlaps are attributed quotes in the article. None of these is a problem.

Please stop using the copyvio tool blindly. — jmcgnh^{(talk) (contribs)} 05:04, 29 October 2018 (UTC)

Template:Backwards copy may be of interest. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 08:02, 29 October 2018 (UTC)

Turfotos

!I own all negatives for 8 race tracks from 1935 through 1993. The corporation was called chromosomes by James Raftery. Some of you race photos are stolen and should not be published. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2600:1700:4c00:f70:d447:be26:e7d6:de3c (talk) 02:38, 29 October 2018‎ (UTC)

Thanks for letting us know about this, but your advisory notice does not include enough detail for any specific action to be taken. If you find photos that violate copyright or are otherwise not properly licensed, I'm afraid you'll need to report them individually over at Wikimedia Commons - you can get to the relevant page on Commons by clicking on the photo and then on the "More details" button. — jmcgnh^{(talk) (contribs)} 05:27, 29 October 2018 (UTC)

Help editing page about Utthayan Road to be neutral

Hello,

I need help to suggest editing this article as some of reviewer suggest to make it more 'neutral'  : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Utthayan_Road I have edited twice which I have add some reliable sources but seems to need rewrite some parts again Please help to review and suggest me which particular part need to edit or which tone of word should be changed

Many thanks Locallion (talk) 03:44, 29 October 2018 (UTC)

Questions about removing (a lot of) content from a page that is too large

Hello, this is a question about the Wikipedia page on Economic inequality. Initially, I thought to split this page, but I put it up for discussion and people thought it is such a mishmash of topics already covered elsewhere that splitting is not a good idea. Please see Talk:Economic_inequality. I did an experiment where I just removed all but a paragraph from each topic under "Causes" and then added a link to the main topic page. This removed about 30 kB of text, but the page is still around 167 kB and needs about 2/3 more content removed.

Really, I think to fix this page, a very narrow focus needs to be taken. Definition of economic inequality, global and United States trends, maybe some history. And then, links to all the different types of economic inequality people want to talk about...racial, gender, etc. and all the different causes...neoliberalism, information technology, etc. So basically, take the abstraction up one level, then link out to the various discussion on other Wikipedia pages.

Now, my two questions are A) should I cut 127 or so kB from the page and B) if I do, will someone revert. It would not be a problem for me to reduce this page a great deal, but I have other things I would like to edit on Wikipedia and don't want to be too involved in a lost cause. Maybe it is just the nature of hot-button issues that people just come by and keep adding their personal take on things and it is better to work on other pages.

Either way, thanks for any insights! Seahawk01 (talk) 05:31, 29 October 2018 (UTC)

Hello Seahawk01 and welcome to the Teahouse (again).

The major restructuring of a page like this is something I would leave to very experienced editors. In my limited experience, it is not something easily done by a committee meeting on the talk page.

On the other hand, if your impression is that "people just come by and keep adding their personal take on things", an approach of cutting or shrinking those additions would likely be more successful.

But, as you saw in your talk page discussion, not everyone is alarmed by a large article, so gaining consensus on trimming it down can be fraught. Is there something else you'd rather be doing? — jmcgnh^{(talk) (contribs)} 06:18, 29 October 2018 (UTC)

The article has been very long for a very long time, and yet people must find it useful, as it gets ~900 views a day. My guess is people start at the article, then go to the Wikilinks that interest them. Rather than a split or more massive cuts, perhaps do a bit more trimming (especially removing unreferenced content that looks like original research) and then don't touch it for a month and see what happens. On a separate note, surprised that the article has not been assigned a rating or importance. David notMD (talk) 11:57, 29 October 2018 (UTC)

Creating a new template

Hello again. On Terry stop I created a sidebar called Template:Police Investigatory Stops. I'm still working on it, but I am hoping I can use it to link together other pages such as Consent search, Traffic stop, etc. Since I'm still pretty new, I would just like to run it by more experienced people to see if I'm moving in the right direction and what else I have to do to establish a template and get it put on other pages. Thanks! Seahawk01 (talk) 05:39, 29 October 2018 (UTC)

Hello Seahawk01 and welcome (again, I think) to the Teahouse.

I made a small correction to your sidebar on Terry stop but it seems like a reasonable goal. Sidebars like this are an aid to navigation and there's nothing too special about creating a new one. That article already has a heavy load of navbars at the bottom, though, so I would be aiming to have only the exactly corresponding articles in your sidebar and not include subjects already well covered by those navbars. In particular, I'd leave out your current case law section, since the more detailed case links will be found on the pages of the "stop" that's most associated with the case – and those front pages for the stop are what I'd argue are necessary introductions.

The other place to ask for advice on the side bar are the two WikiProjects whose banners are on the talk page. Each WikiProject has a talk page and your proposals will likely receive more focused attention than here at the Teahouse. — jmcgnh^{(talk) (contribs)} 06:06, 29 October 2018 (UTC)

@Seahawk01: A template for use in multiple articles should be saved in the template namespace. You can save the code in a page like Template:Police investigatory stops and then write {{Police investigatory stops}} to display it in articles. Wikipedia uses sentence case for page names so words are only capitalized if they would be so in a normal sentence. PrimeHunter (talk) 11:12, 29 October 2018 (UTC)

Birthplace of Asmahan

Hello everyone,
For the Asmahan page, I reverted 95.208.58.106 who wanted to add the Mediterranean Sea as birthplace. I told him that one must be born in a territory or be from at least one of them. WD also poses a constraint. A birth on a sea seems to be born like a fish. Talk: Asmahan seems to have been already busy on this subject. The references in Asmahan are already problematic. I feel alone about this problem, I come to talk about it here.

Is my patrol approach valid / reasonable? (Perhaps I wasn't extremely kind?) Does anyone have a valid / indisputable reference for the birthplace? Are there some who want to improve this page?

The IP is notified of my approach here. Best regards. --Eihel (talk) 07:33, 29 October 2018 (UTC)

Which user last edited 2011 Royal Rumble?

Please tell me the IP of the anonymous user who edited 2011 Royal Rumble because it is pure Vandalism.Satin17 (talk) 07:51, 29 October 2018 (UTC)

Hi Satin17. I guess you refer to Royal Rumble (2011). Click the "View history" tab at top to see the page history [2]. See more at Help:Page history. The last IP actually reverted some vandalism. David Biddulph has now reverted more. PrimeHunter (talk) 10:59, 29 October 2018 (UTC)

first artical

how to write bio of wordpress user ? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Thedastaan (talk • contribs)

See WP:YFA ―Abelmoschus Esculentus 13:19, 29 October 2018 (UTC)

Help

I want to create a dab page but the name is used in a redirect. What to do now? Harsh Rathod Poke me! 13:18, 29 October 2018 (UTC)

Hi Harshrathod50 and welcome to the Teahouse. Can you specify which page you are referring to? ―Abelmoschus Esculentus 13:19, 29 October 2018 (UTC)

It is this one. Harsh Rathod Poke me! 13:21, 29 October 2018 (UTC)

You may remove the redirect to Multiplayer game and create a new dab page. Please make sure it is in accordance with WP:DAB ―Abelmoschus Esculentus 13:25, 29 October 2018 (UTC)

Does that mean I can remove the present code on that redirect and proceed further? Harsh Rathod Poke me! 13:29, 29 October 2018 (UTC)

Yes ―Abelmoschus Esculentus 13:30, 29 October 2018 (UTC)

Thanks, sir Harsh Rathod Poke me! 13:32, 29 October 2018 (UTC)

To get to the redirect code, click on the link at the top of the article where it says "(Redirected from Multiplayer)". --David Biddulph (talk) 13:33, 29 October 2018 (UTC)

@Abelmoschus Esculentus and David Biddulph: Done, please take a look and late me know what you people think. Harsh Rathod Poke me! 14:23, 29 October 2018 (UTC)
@Rankiri: Can you please account for your revert here? Harsh Rathod Poke me! 14:33, 29 October 2018 (UTC)

Hi. I reverted back to the redirect - what you created was a list of partial title matches. Please see WP:PTM, dabs are not a search index. However, after further review, I reverted back to your dab page. They aren't simply partial titles, so nice job. Onel5969 ^{TT me} 14:36, 29 October 2018 (UTC)

Okay, thanks for the re-revert. I asked here because I wasn't able to comprehend your argument in the edit summary. Harsh Rathod Poke me! 14:44, 29 October 2018 (UTC)

Company rebrand

I work for Simplify Health (here in UK) - which is a new name for Beacon UK (rebranded in Sept 2018). How should I update Wiki - Beacon UK page?

I've created an account: C.Smicle at Simplify Health

Can I just edit the Beacon UK page explaining the change in name and publish?https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beacon_UK

Thanks Catherine SmicleC.Smicle at Simplify Health (talk) 13:36, 29 October 2018 (UTC)

Thank you for telling us about your status. You need to make the declaration required for paid editing, then in accordance with the recommendation on conflict of interest you can go to the article's talk page and make recomendations for changes, supported by references to published reliable sources. - David Biddulph (talk) 13:52, 29 October 2018 (UTC)

A way to warn someone for the future

Sorry, if this isn’t the best place to post this, but Rusted AutoParts’ disregard of etiquette & guidelines on La La Land & its talk page has continued to irk me. Is there a way for someone else to dissuade him from this sort of behavior for the future on his user page? It’d be clearly more meaningful if someone other than I do it. Barely made one (talk) 15:54, 29 October 2018 (UTC)

It looks like there was an existing consensus from 2017 in the same discussion where you announced your intended changes. Please note, it is not merely good enough to announce what you intend to do, if people are objecting then it is important that you get agreement from people as well. Given that your initial changes have been objected to, it is your responsibility to establish, via consensus, that your changes are needed. Implicit consensus is only valid in cases where there is not explicit objections. Reasonable, explicit differences are valid, and should be respected until there is a consensus. I would continue to discuss and make your case on the talk page before enacting the change you wish. You can get additional input in the discussion from Dispute resolution methods if need be. --Jayron32 16:16, 29 October 2018 (UTC)

Automated WikiProject tagging

Hi, A group of us are starting a new WikiProject and have been tagging articles with our WikiProject banner for assessment / importance and to help point to articles than need improvement. Tagging is a bit time consuming and we were wondering if there is a way to set up a bot that can tag articles for us (with or without assessment) that fall under the scope of our WikiProject (e.g. articles in a certain category). Thanks, Jayzlimno (talk) 16:34, 29 October 2018 (UTC)

Article Capitalization

Hello, I am working with a new editor who accidentally didn't capitalize the last name of her article for a biographical entry. I've never encountered this issue, how can I go in and change it? thanks!--Ella Dawn 16:39, 29 October 2018 (UTC)

Hi Elladeer - on the "more" button at the top of the page, select "move", and simply capitalize it property. Onel5969 ^{TT me} 16:44, 29 October 2018 (UTC)

thanks! I knew it would be an easy fix.--Ella Dawn 16:51, 29 October 2018 (UTC)

Deleting pages

I have requested for the deletion of two pages https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Ratnesh_Roop/sandbox and https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Ratnesh_Roop/sandbox/Kya_Tum as i would like to retain and edit only page https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Kya_Tum. Since three pages were created on the same topic Mr ColinFine moderator advice us to do this. Request you to kindly update us on the same. This will help us to edit https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Kya_Tum. Need your quick revert.

Thanks Ratnesh Roop