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Seeking consensus

Hi Drmies. I quickly wanted to look-up Sachin Bansal for some information and of course my preferred go-to destination is Wikipedia. I was surprised to learn that Bansal does not have a Wikipedia article, despite the fact that he's a notable Indian entrepreneur! After a bit of investigation, I realized that Sachin Bansal article page did exist; however, it wasn't well written and hence redirected to his company page, Flipkart. I am writing to check with you if you would be okay if I remove the redirect; I am happy to re-write the article over the weekend. I believe that this piece of information deserves to be on Wikipedia. I will await your advice. Cheers! - Amishah78 (talk • contribs) 20:05, 3 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Oh my goodness! Not Sachin Bansal!?! Is he that guy that was involved with flipchart when a "delivery boy allegedly molested a housemaid in Hyderabad"?!? Are you a friend of his? Why are you looking him up?
If you are a good friend of his, and if he had nothing to do with anything bad that happened where this flipchart or flipkart company was involved, then you should tell him that Wikipedia is the last place that he should want to be listed!
@Amishah78: congratulations on your Masters' degree. MPS1992 (talk) 00:14, 4 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Amishah78, I cannot disagree with with MPS here. But speaking for myself, I can't forbid you to do that (it's not my place to "allow" it), but I strongly suggest you heed MPS's warning, and I hope that you will stick to our guidelines. Of course, if you have a COI, it would be a great idea to disclose that beforehand. Drmies (talk) 01:49, 4 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]
MPS1992 To answer your questions - Neither I am a personal friend nor I have any commercial interest. I was looking him up as I am writing an academic case study on eCommerce businesses in India. I have been an author with Harvard Business Publishing and Ivey Publishing since a while now. I had heard of the molestation case in Hyderabad; however, it wasn't Sachin Bansal. It was a delivery boy from his organization. Sachin Bansal is a notable first-generation entrepreneur in India and I believe he deserves a biography page on Wikipedia that is informative and adheres to our guidelines. Amishah78 (talk) 05:00, 6 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Drmies, Hi there. I reached out to you as you are more experienced with Wikipedia than I am. People like you who have been contributing with great passion also help amateurs like us. I appreciate MPS1992's viewpoint; however, coming from India, I believe this article will be useful to several who wish to access information at-a-glance on Sachin Bansal. And of course, I would never want to violate our guidelines. I personally consume information out here and would not want to contribute crap! I don't understand what "COI" stands for; however, I believe you are referring to any personal/commercial interest that I may have (which isn't the case). Once again, if you "guide" me (I haven't used the term "allow" this time :)), I will go ahead and re-write the article either this weekend or next weekend. Amishah78 (talk) 05:00, 6 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]
For COI, please see Wikipedia:Conflict of interest. Drmies (talk) 21:44, 6 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Sure Drmies. I do understand the same. Cheers! Amishah78 (talk) 05:13, 7 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]
@Drmies: - Hi. Would appreciate your support in reviewing the edits that I have to this article made a while ago. Cheers. Amishah78 (talk) 17:40, 16 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Well, thanks for asking, but it seems like the typical "man who founded company" article to me, with relatively little about the man. Drmies (talk) 18:18, 16 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

What do you make of this one?

This looked like a straight-up BLP violation to me, but my revdel request was declined. I'd be interested to hear your take on it.

(I can stop doing this any time if it gets annoying by the way). GirthSummit (blether) 17:14, 9 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

VPN's

Why can't known and confirmed VPN proxies be blocked indefinitely? --Thegooduser Life Begins With a Smile :) 🍁 01:09, 12 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Thegooduser, Because IP's can be reallocated over time. SQLQuery me! 02:44, 12 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]
SQL, maybe you can answer a question I have. I see this all the time: one new account creates another, and neither starts editing. Today's pair was User talk:Judeisadude and User talk:Judy10101010. Could be just some experienced vandal opening another just in case. Could be a sock creating a batch of em, for later; some of our masters go outside usual ranges to create account that are then accessed from already CU-blocked ranges. Could be nothing at all, but many of these pairs (I like to tag em) appear to be just zombie accounts (I did check, and here there's nothing obviously nefarious, though it's weird that new users know how to make a second account). Any thoughts on this in general? Drmies (talk) 04:09, 12 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Another Shakira111 sock

Another clone appeared, Hibye2018. You might want to have a look. --Muhandes (talk) 05:46, 12 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

About Frontiers in Psych talk

Hi Drmies, when you have a moment please see my last message in the talk page for Frontiers in Psychology. Youllneverwalkalone2019 (talk) 16:24, 12 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

One of my senses is tingling

Something seems incredibly off. 10 day old account, but clearly experienced. I have no idea who this is, but it is clearly somebody, and they are either off their meds and need help, or on some sort of troll. Thoughts?

ResultingConstant (talk) 18:35, 12 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Incomplete DYK nomination

Hello! Your submission of Template:Did you know nominations/Redoshi at the Did You Know nominations page is not complete; if you would like to continue, please link the nomination to the nominations page as described in step 3 of the nomination procedure. If you do not want to continue with the nomination, tag the nomination page with {{db-g7}}, or ask a DYK admin. Thank you. DYKHousekeepingBot (talk) 03:52, 13 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, thanks for getting that done! I'll try to work on this later today. Was going to suggest noting she was from the Clotilda, as the ship/story got so much publicity last year when they thought they had found the ship's remains. I think the NY Times might have a quote we can use.Parkwells (talk) 14:43, 14 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]
I've written an ALT 1 hook that relied on a quote from the press release by Newcastle University. I'm still not sure why the reviewer said a quote from a source is preferred, nor exactly how the link should be shown (rather than a cite). Looks clunky to me. Parkwells (talk) 15:05, 15 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Been doing a little digging here

...in the wake of the most recent Middayexpress SPI case. I put a preliminary summary of findings here, but even I was surprise to find some 30 different SPI cases on or related to the Horn of Africa region in some way, shape, or form. I do intend to keep digging here, but I was interested to know if this normal for a given area? TomStar81 (Talk) 05:00, 13 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

  • TomStar81, in any given area, no. For this one, yeah--though I admit I didn't know it was that bad. Holy moly. Yes, the multitude of AN and ANI threads too. It's very frustrating, and you can't trust anyone anymore, really. Well, maybe there's one other area where it gets this bad, and that's in some India/subcontinent-related articles. Thank you for writing this up. I don't know what you hope you could achieve with it; I think for now you're aiming at an overview? But whatever it is it is laudable, and please do keep me and others posted. Drmies (talk) 18:13, 13 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]
    • Its been about 6 months since I floated the idea for discretionary sanctions at AN, I am hoping that a listed might help folks see the bigger picture. Also, I am hoping that if we look at the problem in its entirety it may help us see if any previous accounts may be still lingering on site. Assuming the blogspot website is correct about Middayexpress having a UK based isp address, its possible that Middayexpress may have been blocked earlier than s/he was and really is an LTA account. Finally, if the first proposal fails and the second yields no underlying connection, I hope that the list could be presented as to ARBCOM as evidence that the subject matter needs some high level attention. Independent on those instances, it'd be useful to have one master page where we can track all this as well since it seems the Horn of Africa is a delicate area for editors, admins, and others. Incidentally, you and the others are welcome to post to the page if you have something you feel should be added to it, so do feel free to edit if you need to. TomStar81 (Talk) 18:59, 14 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]
      • Thanks again for taking that up, TomStar81. I am hesitant to really jump on board, for a couple of reasons, one of which is that it is such a mess, an almost intractable mess, and it will take considerable time and energy to know enough. But discretionary sanctions may well be a really good idea. Proving to ArbCom that it's a mess shouldn't be too difficult. I'm going to have a look at your document again. Drmies (talk) 16:55, 17 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Andrei Svechnikov

Hey Drmies, Would you mind re-adding protection to Andrei Svechnikov? You protected it shortly but I think it needs some extended protection for BLP violations. It is all related to this. Thanks! HickoryOughtShirt?4 (talk) 18:18, 16 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Tongva vandalism

This seems uncalled-for in consideration of WP:DENY. Why did you leave such a message? Nardog (talk) 22:52, 16 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

  • Because I don't want a racist to think that racism is funny? There's vandalism and vandalism. Drmies (talk) 00:11, 17 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Nardog, I do want to thank you for making me look at it again. There's a bit more to it, maybe; some Googling reveals that this may be a one-man crusade--but what sticks out most clearly is "It's all a bunch of nonsense besides being futile, because there's no such thing as a Tongva tribe", the kind of thing one hears from racists, and very much a way to make someone be invisible. Drmies (talk) 00:56, 17 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]
    • It is clear from their edits that the user wants the name of the article and the descriptor of its subject to be changed from the exonym "Tongva" to the endonym "Kizh". They are indeed skipping the process of seeking community consensus, but that's disruptive editing, not vandalism, i.e. obstruction of the project's purpose.

      Insisting on using an endonym is typically a form of promoting political correctness that could not be further from bigotry. I don't know if this user was coming from a place of good faith in this particular case because I don't possess the knowledge to make either assumption and the matter is fairly complex—the exonym "Persian" is preferred over the endonym "Farsi" by many of the language's speakers; "San" was once considered more politically correct than the exonym "Bushmen" and now it's not—but jumping to the conclusion that it was racist vandalism and blocking them without giving them enough WP:ROPE is so anti-AGF. (And even if someone was engaging in blatant racist vandalism, I can't imagine a scenario in which asking them "Did you have fun with your racist vandalism?" after blocking results in anything productive.) I suggest you formally retract your earlier remark and apologize and unblock them. If they are taught about the process of consensus building and about verifiability and reliable sources, they might have something constructive to contribute. If they continue to ignore our warning and refuse to engage in a discussion instead of bold editing, then we can block them again. Nardog (talk) 12:47, 17 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

      • That is not at all clear to me, nor do I understand what you mean with "political correctness" here. I must have a quite different imagination than you do. It was clear to me that the editor was to some extent disappearing a recognized tribe. But I tell you what: I will unblock them, why not, since ROPE is fine with me. Drmies (talk) 13:45, 17 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]
        • My understanding is that by "there's no such thing as a Tongva tribe" they meant that there is no tribe named Tongva and that the tribe described in the article should be referred to as Kizh instead (on the grounds that that's what they call themselves), not that the tribe does not exist. Nardog (talk) 13:53, 17 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

DYK suggestion

Hi, just wanted to let you know that I added an ALT 1 to the Redoshi DYK, trying to incorporate the reviewer's suggestion of a quote from a source and linking the source. Have not done it this way, so am not sure about format. Let me know if you want me to draft another.Parkwells (talk) 14:42, 17 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

It is back

Hello D. After a couple months off this troll is back. The edits will need r/d by you or any of your talk page watchers who get there first. I hope you and you whole family have a pleasant weekend. MarnetteD|Talk 15:50, 19 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Some help please

Hi, look I know i've been through some heat and I've explained all I can here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Incidents#Regarding_my_recent_edits

Thank you, OE OrbitalEnd48401 (talk) 17:22, 19 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Possible sock of Piriczki

[1], before the blanking. Dan56 (talk) 22:33, 19 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

HughD sock pt 2

I see no reason to revert this sock edit but to reiterate my views (earlier discussion [[2]]) that this is a HughD sock edit, but absent this being a sock, notice that we again have a chicago area IP making an edit to the previous sock comments. [[3]] The edit is a trivial correction to a discussion that has come and gone. Springee (talk) 00:53, 20 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

And since I just noticed this... a Signpost barnstar from a Chicago area IP... [[4]]. Springee (talk) 01:07, 20 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Yeah not much I can do. Range is too big. Drmies (talk) 01:31, 20 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]
That's OK, I figure this edit is innocuous given the scope of the other edits made. But I did think it was funny that the sock cared enough to come back to make a minor post correction two weeks later :D Springee (talk) 02:55, 20 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

About you Wikipedia article about Tugelbay Sydykbekov

Hey, Drmies!

  • About "patriarch of Kyrgyz literature", to my mind, this is most likely a kind of quite internal "nickname" that is used among a very narrow circle of people. I think this information is of no particular importance.
  • Instead of Kyrgyz version of the article, you may have try its Russian version, because Russian language is more convenient for online translators.

P.S.: Feel free to use Template:Citation needed over the questionable information!

Dat Gee (talk) from Wikipedia (since September 2016) 01:40, 20 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

66.35.116.133

Back to vandalizing after being blocked: [5] (self-reverted right after, so maybe a warning?) --Guy Macon (talk) 15:41, 20 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

  • Hi Guy Macon, I think 66.35.116.133 (talk · contribs · WHOIS) was just fucking around a little pit--really, I think they were pinging me. Some overzealous user had been reverting their edits on their talk page, which was very unnecessary. This IP user is odd; I think they may well not be a typical vandal, though I get highly irritated at edit summaries like this one. Let's hope they find a more positive way to contribute; that capitalization thing was a bit useless. Thanks, Drmies (talk) 21:01, 20 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia article all code

Please check the Wikipedia article for dusty rhoades(wrestler) because it is showing the code not the info box.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dusty_Rhodes_(wrestler)

Thanks,

BayArea2018 BayArea2018 (talk) 01:49, 21 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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