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Speedy renaming or speedy merging of categories may be requested only if they meet a speedy criterion, for example WP:C2D (consistency with main article's name) or WP:C2C (consistency with established category tree names). Please see instructions below.
- Determine which speedy criterion applies
- Tag category with
{{subst:cfr-speedy|New name}}
- List request along with speedy criteria reason under "Current requests" below on this page
Please note that a speedy request must state which of the narrowly defined criteria strictly applies. Hence, any other non-speedy criteria, even "common sense" or "obvious", may be suitable points but only at a full discussion at WP:Categories for discussion.
Request may take 48 hours to process after listing if there are no objections. This delay allows other users to review the request to ensure that it meets the speedy criteria for speedy renaming or merging, and to raise objections to the proposed change.
Categories that qualify for speedy deletion (per Wikipedia:Criteria for speedy deletion, e.g. "patent nonsense", "recreation") can be tagged with the regular speedy tags, such as {{db|reason}}
with no required delay. Empty categories can be deleted if they remain empty 7 days after tagging with {{db-empty}}. Renaming under C2E can also be processed instantly as it is a variation on G7.
Contested speedy requests become stale, and can be un-tagged and de-listed after 7 days of inactivity. Optionally, if the discussion may be useful for future reference, it may be copied to the category talk page, with a section heading and {{moved discussion from|[[WP:CFDS]]|2=~~~~}}
. If the nominator wants to continue the process, it may be requested regularly at WP:Categories for discussion (CfD) in accordance with its instructions.
Speedy criteria
The category-specific criteria for speedy renaming, or merging are strictly limited to:
C2A: Typographic and spelling fixes
- Correction of spelling errors and capitalization fixes. Differences between British and American spelling (e.g. Harbours → Harbors) are not considered errors; however if the convention of the relevant category tree is to use one form over the other then a rename may be appropriate under C2C. If both spellings exist as otherwise-identical category names, they should be merged.
- Appropriate conversion of hyphens into en dashes or vice versa (e.g. Category:Canada-Russia relations → Category:Canada–Russia relations).
C2B: Consistency with established Wikipedia naming conventions and practices
- Expanding abbreviated country names (e.g. U.S. → United States).
- Disambiguation fixes from an unqualified name (e.g. Category:Washington → Category:Washington (state) or Category:Washington, D.C.).
C2C: Consistency with established category tree names
Bringing a category into line with established naming conventions for that category tree, or into line with the various "x by y", "x of y", or "x in y" categorization conventions specified at Wikipedia:Category names
- This should be used only where there is no room for doubt that the category in question is being used for the standard purpose instead of being a potential subcategory.
- This criterion should be applied only when there is no ambiguity or doubt over the existence of a category naming convention. Such a convention must be well defined and must be overwhelmingly used within the tree. If this is not the case then the category in question must be brought forward to a full Cfd nomination.
- This criterion will not apply in cases where the category tree observes distinctions in local usage (e.g. Category:Transportation in the United States and Category:Transport in the United Kingdom).
C2D: Consistency with main article's name
- Renaming a topic category to match its eponymous page (e.g. Category:The Beatles and The Beatles).
- This applies only if the related page's current name (and by extension, the proposed name for the category) is unambiguous, and uncontroversial – either because of longstanding stability at that particular name, or because the page was just moved (i) after a page move discussion resulted in explicit consensus to rename, or (ii) unilaterally to reflect an official renaming which is verified by one or more citations (provided in the nomination). If the page names are controversial or ambiguous in any way, then this criterion does not apply, even if an article is the primary topic of its name.
- This criterion also does not apply if there is any ongoing discussion about the name of the page or category, or if there has been a recent discussion concerning any of the pages that resulted in a no consensus result.
- This criterion may also be used to rename a set category in the same circumstances, where the set is defined by a renamed topic; e.g. players for a sports team, or places in a district.
C2E: Author request
- This criterion applies only if the author of a category requests or agrees to renaming within six months of creating the category.
- The criterion does not apply if other editors have populated or changed the category since it was created. "Other editors" includes bots that populated the category, but excludes an editor working with the author on the renaming.
C2F: One eponymous article
- This criterion applies if the category contains only an eponymous article or media file, provided that the category has not otherwise been emptied shortly before the nomination. The default outcome is an upmerge to the parent categories, where applicable. Nominations should use {{cfm-speedy}} (speedy merger) linking to a suitable parent category, or to another appropriate category (e.g. one that is currently on the article).
Admin instructions
When handling the listings:
- Make sure that the listing meets one of the above criteria.
- With the exception of C2E, make sure that it was both listed and tagged at least 48 hours previously.
- Make sure that there are no opposition to the listing; if there is a discussion, check if the opposing user(s) ended up withdrawing their opposition.
If the listing meets these criteria, simply have the category renamed or merged – follow the instructions at Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Administrator instructions, in the section "If the decision is to Rename, Merge, or Delete"; to list it for the bots, use the Speedy moves section.
Applying speedy criteria in full discussions
- A nomination to merge or rename, brought forward as a full CfD, may be speedily closed if the closing administrator is satisfied that:
- The nomination clearly falls within the scope of one of the criteria listed here, and
- No objections have been made within 48 hours of the initial nomination.
- If both these conditions are satisfied, the closure will be regarded as having been as a result of a speedy nomination. If any objections have been raised then the CfD nomination will remain in place for the usual 7-day discussion period, to be decided in accordance with expressed consensus.
Add requests for speedy renaming and merging here
If the category and desired change do not match one of the criteria mentioned in C2, do not list it here. Instead, list it in the main CFD section.
If you are in any doubt as to whether it qualifies, do not list it here.
Use the following format on a new line at the beginning of the list:
* [[:Category:old name]] to [[:Category:new name]] – Reason ~~~~
(The four ~ will sign and datestamp the entry automatically.)
Remember to tag the category with: {{subst:Cfr-speedy|New name}}
A request may be completed if it is more than 48 hours old; that is, if the time stamp shown is earlier than 22:19, 19 September 2024 (UTC). Currently, there are 2,145 open requests (. )
Do not use the "Move" tab to move categories listed here! Categories are processed following the 48-hour discussion period and are moved by a bot. |
Current requests
- Category:Accidents and incidents involving the Boeing 737 Next Gen to Category:Accidents and incidents involving the Boeing 737 Next Generation – C2D per Boeing 737 Next Generation Brandmeistertalk 22:52, 10 January 2020 (UTC)
- Category:Newmont Goldcorp to Category:Newmont Corporation – C2D; main article was moved back to Newmont Corporation. Did not require RM discussion because the company changed its official name. UnitedStatesian (talk) 21:18, 10 January 2020 (UTC)
- Category:Poitiers FC players to Category:Stade Poitevin FC players – C2B: per Stade Poitevin FC/Category:Stade Poitevin FC. Armbrust The Homunculus 09:20, 10 January 2020 (UTC)
- Category:Poitiers FC managers to Category:Stade Poitevin FC managers – C2B. Armbrust The Homunculus 09:17, 10 January 2020 (UTC)
- Category:Westwood One (current) to Category:Westwood One – C2D. Izno (talk) 06:13, 10 January 2020 (UTC)
- Category:Total War (series) to Category:Total War (video game series) – C2D: To match main article name. ZXCVBNM (TALK) 05:17, 10 January 2020 (UTC)
- Category:Ecco the Dolphin (series) to Category:Ecco the Dolphin – C2D: Move to match series article name Ecco the Dolphin. ZXCVBNM (TALK) 05:13, 10 January 2020 (UTC)
- Category:Whig (British political party) to Category:Whigs (British political party) – C2D. The article has been at Whigs (British political party) since 2013. Opera hat (talk) 03:59, 10 January 2020 (UTC)
- I only tagged the category now.--Ymblanter (talk) 19:52, 10 January 2020 (UTC)
- Category:Molten Salt Reactor to Category:Molten salt reactors – C2A Le Deluge (talk) 21:43, 9 January 2020 (UTC)
- @Le Deluge: What is the reason? TSventon (talk) 11:51, 10 January 2020 (UTC)
- @TSventon: Oops, it was a fairly obvious C2A. Le Deluge (talk) 12:43, 10 January 2020 (UTC)
- Category:People from Flixton to Category:People from Flixton, Greater Manchester – C2D per Flixton, Greater Manchester since Flixton is a DAB page with 3 other places. Crouch, Swale (talk) 19:01, 9 January 2020 (UTC)
- Category:Mumbai-Pune trains to Category:Mumbai–Pune trains – C2A and C2C. See entries in same category, Category:Intercity Express (Indian Railways) trains and Category:Express trains in India. Vatsmaxed (talk) 07:06, 9 January 2020 (UTC)
- Category:Knights of St. Sylvester to Category:Knights of the Order of Saint Sylvester – C2C PPEMES (talk) 22:55, 8 January 2020 (UTC)
- Oppose - the article is Order of St. Sylvester. Oculi (talk) 18:21, 9 January 2020 (UTC)
- Category:Order of Pius IX to Category:Order of Pope Pius IX – C2D. PPEMES (talk) 22:43, 8 January 2020 (UTC)
- Category:Knights Grand Cross of the Order of Pius IX to Category:Knights Grand Cross of the Order of Pope Pius IX
- Category:Knights Commander with Star of the Order of Pius IX to Category:Knights Commander with Star of the Order of Pope Pius IX
- Category:Knights of Pius IX to Category:Knights of the Order of Pope Pius IX
- Category:Malaysian post-nomimal letters to Category:Malaysian post-nominal letters – C2A typo Le Deluge (talk) 18:27, 8 January 2020 (UTC)
- Category:N.E.C. (football club) to Category:NEC Nijmegen – C2D: Name of the eponymous article has changed. gidonb (talk) 12:05, 8 January 2020 (UTC)
- Category:2019 measles outbreak to Category:2019 measles outbreaks – C2D. — RAVENPVFF · talk · 11:48, 8 January 2020 (UTC)
- Comment This can go ahead as C2A, but C2D doesn't apply. Armbrust The Homunculus 14:52, 9 January 2020 (UTC)
- Category:ITV to Category:ITV (TV network) – C2D: Article is at ITV (TV network). Gonnym (talk) 10:59, 8 January 2020 (UTC)
- Oppose I think Category:ITV plc would be a better target, given the article ITV plc. UnitedStatesian (talk) 15:01, 9 January 2020 (UTC)
- Given your name, might you perhaps be based outside the UK, and less than fully informed on this one? Check the articles; ITV plc only has 13 of the 15 regional ITV licences, even after the merger of Granada & Carlton and subsequent takeovers. History of ITV is about the network, not just what is now the main company. – Fayenatic London 21:32, 9 January 2020 (UTC)
- I know the company very well. There are subcats in the category that are not limited to the networks, such as Category:ITV people; given an admittedly close call such as this one, I think the preference is for the top-level category to match the ultimate corporate parent. UnitedStatesian (talk) 21:22, 10 January 2020 (UTC)
- Given your name, might you perhaps be based outside the UK, and less than fully informed on this one? Check the articles; ITV plc only has 13 of the 15 regional ITV licences, even after the merger of Granada & Carlton and subsequent takeovers. History of ITV is about the network, not just what is now the main company. – Fayenatic London 21:32, 9 January 2020 (UTC)
- Oppose I think Category:ITV plc would be a better target, given the article ITV plc. UnitedStatesian (talk) 15:01, 9 January 2020 (UTC)
- Category:Jewish-related television programs to Category:Television programs about Jews and Judaism – C2C within parent Category:Works about Jews and Judaism. See also Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2019_December_30#Category:Buddhism-related_television_episodes. – Fayenatic London 14:26, 7 January 2020 (UTC)
- Leaning oppose as proposed: Seems Category:Works about Jews and Judaism is the odd one in Category:Works about religion and it should probably be the one changed and this be Category:Television programs about Judaism. --Gonnym (talk) 11:08, 8 January 2020 (UTC)
- Category:Television episodes about Judaism to Category:Television episodes about Jews and Judaism – C2C within grandparent Category:Works about Jews and Judaism. – Fayenatic London 10:38, 8 January 2020 (UTC)
- Leaning oppose: One of the parents is Category:Television episodes about religion and this category uses that same style such as Category:Television episodes about Christianity and Category:Television episodes about Islam. Also, looking at Category:Works about religion, seems "Works about Jews and Judaism" is the odd one here and should be the one renamed. --Gonnym (talk) 11:08, 8 January 2020 (UTC)
- Until the CFD last month, the category was "Category:Jewish-related television episodes", so it may include content about Jewish ethnic identity that is not exclusively about Judaism as a religion. Nevertheless such content should not be removed, because this is part of a well-established hierarchy Category:Jews and Judaism. – Fayenatic London 11:54, 9 January 2020 (UTC)
- Wouldn't it be better then to split the pages that deal with the Jewish ethnic identity such as The Entity (South Park) from those that deal with the religion such as A Rugrats Passover? I was trying to find other ethnic groups that have a similar TV categories but couldn't find one, but Category:Works about race and ethnicity would be a logical parent to categories such as Category:Television episodes about Native Americans (similar to Category:Films about Native Americans) or Category:Television episodes about Romani people (similar to Category:Films about Romani people). In this case it would be Category:Television episodes about Judaism and Category:Television episodes about Jews. --Gonnym (talk) 12:13, 9 January 2020 (UTC)
- That split sounds as if it might be feasible in this case, but could be much harder to work through the rest of the hierarchy, and we might as well treat TV categories consistently with the rest. I'd want to hear from WP:WikiProject Judaism first, so I have posted a notice there. – Fayenatic London 21:39, 9 January 2020 (UTC)
- I support the rename, and would leave a split between Jews and Judaism for the future. Same for the other category above. Debresser (talk) 01:42, 10 January 2020 (UTC)
- That split sounds as if it might be feasible in this case, but could be much harder to work through the rest of the hierarchy, and we might as well treat TV categories consistently with the rest. I'd want to hear from WP:WikiProject Judaism first, so I have posted a notice there. – Fayenatic London 21:39, 9 January 2020 (UTC)
- Wouldn't it be better then to split the pages that deal with the Jewish ethnic identity such as The Entity (South Park) from those that deal with the religion such as A Rugrats Passover? I was trying to find other ethnic groups that have a similar TV categories but couldn't find one, but Category:Works about race and ethnicity would be a logical parent to categories such as Category:Television episodes about Native Americans (similar to Category:Films about Native Americans) or Category:Television episodes about Romani people (similar to Category:Films about Romani people). In this case it would be Category:Television episodes about Judaism and Category:Television episodes about Jews. --Gonnym (talk) 12:13, 9 January 2020 (UTC)
- Until the CFD last month, the category was "Category:Jewish-related television episodes", so it may include content about Jewish ethnic identity that is not exclusively about Judaism as a religion. Nevertheless such content should not be removed, because this is part of a well-established hierarchy Category:Jews and Judaism. – Fayenatic London 11:54, 9 January 2020 (UTC)
- Leaning oppose: One of the parents is Category:Television episodes about religion and this category uses that same style such as Category:Television episodes about Christianity and Category:Television episodes about Islam. Also, looking at Category:Works about religion, seems "Works about Jews and Judaism" is the odd one here and should be the one renamed. --Gonnym (talk) 11:08, 8 January 2020 (UTC)
- Category:Featured pictures from Portals to Category:Featured pictures on portals – C2A, "Portals" should not be capitalized UnitedStatesian (talk) 19:57, 7 January 2020 (UTC)
- Category:Featured pictures of Star Portal to Category:Featured pictures on Stars portal – also C2C, portal was renamed more than 6 months ago.
- Category:Featured pictures on Mathematics Portal to Category:Featured pictures on Mathematics portal
- UnitedStatesian IMO both subcategories need a "the" added before the portal name, just like in the text on Portal:Stars/Selected picture/template and Portal:Mathematics/Featured picture template. Also I'm not really sure that "Stars" and "Mathematics" should be capitalised. Armbrust The Homunculus 14:24, 9 January 2020 (UTC)
- As for the parent, I suggest Category:Featured pictures by portal or Category:Featured pictures by Wikipedia portal, to match others within Category:Featured pictures. – Fayenatic London 16:02, 10 January 2020 (UTC)
- UnitedStatesian IMO both subcategories need a "the" added before the portal name, just like in the text on Portal:Stars/Selected picture/template and Portal:Mathematics/Featured picture template. Also I'm not really sure that "Stars" and "Mathematics" should be capitalised. Armbrust The Homunculus 14:24, 9 January 2020 (UTC)
- Category:New Democratic Party of Canada to Category:New Democratic Party (target currently empty, tagged for C1 deletion) – C2D, main article is at New Democratic Party UnitedStatesian (talk) 03:20, 7 January 2020 (UTC)
- Oppose at least speedy. New Democratic Party (disambiguation) is ambiguous, so C2D doesn't apply. Armbrust The Homunculus 23:28, 8 January 2020 (UTC)
- Category:Veritas (political party) MEPs to Category:Veritas MEPs – C2C: consistent with parent Category:Veritas politicians. Opera hat (talk) 23:58, 6 January 2020 (UTC)
- I only tagged the category now--Ymblanter (talk) 06:46, 7 January 2020 (UTC)
- Thank you; sorry for missing that step. Opera hat (talk) 19:32, 7 January 2020 (UTC)
- Oppose The main article of the category is Veritas (political party). Armbrust The Homunculus 09:09, 7 January 2020 (UTC)
- Not to mention Category:Veritas (political party). Oculi (talk) 11:02, 7 January 2020 (UTC)
- That didn't stop the parent category from being moved. What happens now? Do I have to open another move request? Opera hat (talk) 19:32, 7 January 2020 (UTC)
- It should have stopped the parent being renamed, but sadly knowledgeable editors did not contribute, and the closer merely counted votes. You need a full cfd rather than speedy. Oculi (talk) 10:53, 8 January 2020 (UTC)
- Right, a full CFD discussion is always required in cases of potential ambiguity. It would have helped to nominate multiple categories in the previous discussion. I suggest now that an "option A or option B" nomination be made (A = revert parent, B = rename subcats) so that the outcome will achieve consistency one way or the other. – Fayenatic London 10:59, 8 January 2020 (UTC)
- It should have stopped the parent being renamed, but sadly knowledgeable editors did not contribute, and the closer merely counted votes. You need a full cfd rather than speedy. Oculi (talk) 10:53, 8 January 2020 (UTC)
- That didn't stop the parent category from being moved. What happens now? Do I have to open another move request? Opera hat (talk) 19:32, 7 January 2020 (UTC)
- Category:IIHF Women's World Championship to Category:IIHF World Women's Championship logos – I forgot ”logos” and put world after women’s. I am the author - C2E Jonteemil (talk) 22:55, 6 January 2020 (UTC)
- Category:IIHF Women's World Championship is an empty category. Liz Read! Talk! 02:44, 9 January 2020 (UTC)
- I moved the category as requested, but meanwhile Category:IIHF World Women's Championships logos (-ships not -ship) was created and populated by Le Deluge, emptying Jonteemil's target Category:IIHF World Women's Championship logos, to match the article IIHF World Women's Championships.[1] It seems to me that the article is mis-named with a plural, and should be moved to singular -ship, which predominates in citations and external links. Can we agree here to do that and merge the categories under WP:C2E?
- Ah, I see that 2015 IIHF Women's World Championship says it's the top division of 2015 Women's Ice Hockey World Championships. Does that mean that we should have Category:IIHF Women's World Championship logos and Category:Women's Ice Hockey World Championships logos??? – Fayenatic London 18:26, 9 January 2020 (UTC)
- @Fayenatic london: Yeah, I also saw that Le Deluge created a new category, with -ships instead of -ship. I don’t know why he decided to intervene. I suggest a merger, but -ship should be in the title and the category Le Deluge created should be deleted. About ”I see that 2015 IIHF Women's World Championship says it's the top division of 2015 Women's Ice Hockey World Championships” the IIHF makes logos for each division, not for the entire championship so only one category, the one we’ve got, is needed.Jonteemil (talk) 18:33, 9 January 2020 (UTC)
- I wasn't "intervening" in that I was unaware this discussion was happening, and I was dealing with categories that didn't exist - I merely saw logos that had been edited to have red-linked categories in contravention of WP:REDNOT and perhaps you were unlucky that we were in the middle of a big attack on the Special:WantedCategories backlog. But I merely processed them in line with the article name. As an aside, I don't know if there's a slight WP:ENGVAR issue here - in British English a championship tends to be more a ranking over a period of time (like the ICC Test Championship or County Championship whereas championships tend to be a single event like the European Athletics Championships.Le Deluge (talk) 19:59, 9 January 2020 (UTC)
- @Le Deluge: Fair enough. Whether -ship or -ships is chosen, I don’t have an opinion on, however either all are -ships or all are -ship. English isn’t my native language so I let that one up for you natives to decide. Sorry that I accused you of intervening, I should’ve assumed WP:GOOD FAITH which I obviously didn’t.Jonteemil (talk) 21:47, 9 January 2020 (UTC)
- Thanks, I'll take that as C2E and merge Category:IIHF World Women's Championships logos to Category:IIHF World Women's Championship logos, and boldly rename the article. – Fayenatic London 11:11, 10 January 2020 (UTC)
- @Fayenatic london: Perfekt👌.Jonteemil (talk) 22:33, 10 January 2020 (UTC)
- Thanks, I'll take that as C2E and merge Category:IIHF World Women's Championships logos to Category:IIHF World Women's Championship logos, and boldly rename the article. – Fayenatic London 11:11, 10 January 2020 (UTC)
- @Le Deluge: Fair enough. Whether -ship or -ships is chosen, I don’t have an opinion on, however either all are -ships or all are -ship. English isn’t my native language so I let that one up for you natives to decide. Sorry that I accused you of intervening, I should’ve assumed WP:GOOD FAITH which I obviously didn’t.Jonteemil (talk) 21:47, 9 January 2020 (UTC)
- I wasn't "intervening" in that I was unaware this discussion was happening, and I was dealing with categories that didn't exist - I merely saw logos that had been edited to have red-linked categories in contravention of WP:REDNOT and perhaps you were unlucky that we were in the middle of a big attack on the Special:WantedCategories backlog. But I merely processed them in line with the article name. As an aside, I don't know if there's a slight WP:ENGVAR issue here - in British English a championship tends to be more a ranking over a period of time (like the ICC Test Championship or County Championship whereas championships tend to be a single event like the European Athletics Championships.Le Deluge (talk) 19:59, 9 January 2020 (UTC)
- @Fayenatic london: Yeah, I also saw that Le Deluge created a new category, with -ships instead of -ship. I don’t know why he decided to intervene. I suggest a merger, but -ship should be in the title and the category Le Deluge created should be deleted. About ”I see that 2015 IIHF Women's World Championship says it's the top division of 2015 Women's Ice Hockey World Championships” the IIHF makes logos for each division, not for the entire championship so only one category, the one we’ve got, is needed.Jonteemil (talk) 18:33, 9 January 2020 (UTC)
- Category:IIHF Women's World Championship is an empty category. Liz Read! Talk! 02:44, 9 January 2020 (UTC)
- Category:United States Executive Cabinet members by presidential administration to Category:United States cabinet members by presidential administration – C2C - Anomalous+0 (talk) 13:00, 6 January 2020 (UTC)
- Category:United States Executive Cabinet members by presidential administration navigational boxes to Category:United States cabinet members by presidential administration navigational boxes
- Oppose There is just one other category to used the proposed format (Category:United States cabinet members from Nebraska), so C2C doesn't apply. (The second is also a subcategory of Category:United States Executive Cabinet navigational boxes). Armbrust The Homunculus 19:27, 7 January 2020 (UTC)
- Category:United States Executive Cabinet members by presidential administration navigational boxes to Category:United States cabinet members by presidential administration navigational boxes
- Category:Works about the Chernobyl nuclear disaster to Category:Works about the Chernobyl disaster – I'm not sure which these fall under but the main article's long-standing title is simply "Chernobyl disaster" so I do not see why "nuclear" is necessary or appropriate. I grieve in stereo (talk) 20:49, 5 January 2020 (UTC)
- Oppose - I created both of these subcategories, and I included the word "nuclear" after careful consideration. The main article & its primary category should both be renamed for clarity & consistency, as is the case with Category:Fukushima Daiichi nuclear disaster and ALL of its articles. Anomalous+0 (talk) 13:21, 6 January 2020 (UTC)
- So what? That is not "careful consideration". You cannot be creating categories based off what you think the main article should be named. You should move/propose to move the main article first then name/move the category. I don't see your name anywhere on the main article's talk page discussing a possible move. So don't you think you are getting ahead of yourself? I grieve in stereo (talk) 21:24, 6 January 2020 (UTC)
- Good grief. Where do you get off telling me "That is not 'careful consideration'"? I said it and I meant it. We've only just met, so you might want to cool your jets a little, kiddo. As for the categories: they're both SUBcategories, not the PRIMARY category - which isn't even up for discussion here. (Obviously, the main article will have to be renamed first before that category can be renamed.) Anomalous+0 (talk) 09:39, 7 January 2020 (UTC)
- Because I am responding to what you wrote here in opposition to my speedy renaming proposal. I wasn't trying to sound angry, and I'm sorry that it sounded that way. You said you created the categories after careful consideration and then I read your reasoning here and what I am hearing is that you named the categories "Chernobyl nuclear disaster" because you concluded that the main article should be renamed to that. So because it is a subcategory you can include a variation of the main's title based on what you believe the main should be renamed to? You created these categories over 8 months ago, why hasn't the main page been renamed yet? This is the first time I have seen subcategories that include a rephrasing of the title of its main category. Again, I am not trying to come off angry I am genuinely interested in learning if what you are saying follows Wikipedia guidelines so I can edit accordingly in the future. I grieve in stereo (talk) 11:02, 7 January 2020 (UTC)
- Good grief. Where do you get off telling me "That is not 'careful consideration'"? I said it and I meant it. We've only just met, so you might want to cool your jets a little, kiddo. As for the categories: they're both SUBcategories, not the PRIMARY category - which isn't even up for discussion here. (Obviously, the main article will have to be renamed first before that category can be renamed.) Anomalous+0 (talk) 09:39, 7 January 2020 (UTC)
- So what? That is not "careful consideration". You cannot be creating categories based off what you think the main article should be named. You should move/propose to move the main article first then name/move the category. I don't see your name anywhere on the main article's talk page discussing a possible move. So don't you think you are getting ahead of yourself? I grieve in stereo (talk) 21:24, 6 January 2020 (UTC)
Opposed requests
- Category:Medical colleges in Pakistan to Category:Medical schools in Pakistan – C2C: to match Category:Medical schools by country. Under these there are a load of regional categories to follow if these are accepted. Rathfelder (talk) 11:38, 3 January 2020 (UTC)
- Category:Medical colleges in India to Category:Medical schools in India – C2C.
- Category:Medical colleges in Bangladesh to Category:Medical schools in Bangladesh
- Oppose all - the local term for all 3 countries is 'Medical college': see eg Category:Medical colleges in Khyber Pakhtunkhwa, List of medical colleges in Bangladesh. Also the current names were chosen at cfd: eg Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2018_September_6#Category:Medical_schools_in_India. Oculi (talk) 12:03, 3 January 2020 (UTC)
- The relevant CFD discussions are now all linked on the talk pages. – Fayenatic London 15:50, 4 January 2020 (UTC)
- Category:NEON films to Category:Neon films – C2D: Consistency with main article's name – Neon (distributor) does not use the official all-caps stylization; the category should not, either. Tempjrds (talk) 23:35, 1 January 2020 (UTC)
- Oppose as proposed The main article of the category is Neon (distributor), so this should be renamed to Category:Neon (distributor) films. Armbrust The Homunculus 09:37, 3 January 2020 (UTC)
- Category:Philadelphia Rams to Category:Jefferson Rams – Philadelphia University merged with Thomas Jefferson University in 2017. The university uses "Jefferson" as its brand name for the institution as a whole, and its athletics website consistently uses that branding. See, for example, displays of scheduled games on the athletics homepage, uniforms, and record books (such as men's basketball), all of which use "Jefferson". — Dale Arnett (talk) 09:14, 31 December 2019 (UTC)
- Added comment by nominator: The linked men's basketball record book explicitly treats Jefferson as the athletic successor to Philadelphia University and Philadelphia Textile (short form of three prior institutional names).
- Category:Philadelphia Rams baseball to Category:Jefferson Rams baseball
- Category:Philadelphia Rams baseball players to Category:Jefferson Rams baseball players
- Category:Philadelphia Rams basketball to Category:Jefferson Rams basketball
- Category:Philadelphia Rams men's basketball to Category:Jefferson Rams men's basketball
- Category:Philadelphia Rams men's basketball coaches to Category:Jefferson Rams men's basketball coaches
- Category:Philadelphia Rams men's basketball players to Category:Jefferson Rams men's basketball players
- While that would be a really sound reason at a full discussion, I don't see which speedy criterion should apply. Oppose speedy until clarified. Armbrust The Homunculus 18:44, 31 December 2019 (UTC)
- Had a brain fart and forgot to list the criterion. It's C2D per the official university name change. — Dale Arnett (talk) 06:13, 2 January 2020 (UTC)
- Well that doesn’t really work here, because there is no main article for the sports team. Both the current and former name are redirects. Armbrust The Homunculus 07:03, 2 January 2020 (UTC)
- Category:Scholars in Eastern Orthodoxy to Category:Eastern Orthodox scholars – C2C. 142.160.131.220 (talk) 19:55, 28 December 2019 (UTC)
- Oppose as ambiguous. The proposed title doesn't make it clear whether the category is about scholars of Eastern Orthodox faith or scholars of Eastern Orthodoxy. Armbrust The Homunculus 10:59, 29 December 2019 (UTC)
- @Armbrust: If it were about those studying Eastern Orthodoxy, wouldn't it have to be "Scholars of Eastern Orthodoxy" rather than "Scholars in Eastern Orthodoxy"? One is not necessarily "in" a religious tradition one studies.
- In any case, looking at the 225 articles in the category and its subcategories, it appears that every one of their subjects are Eastern Orthodox Christians (excepting Hugh Pilkington, whose religion isn't readily apparent from his article and a cursory Google search).
- Even if we were to put aside the use of the word "in" and the actual use of the category, the intention of the category seems evident from the category hierarchy. It falls within categories exclusively reserved for Eastern Orthodox and other Christian biographies, as it has been since December 2006, less than a month after the category was created. (I would assume that the reason it wasn't in a Christian-specific category on the date of its creation in November 2006 was that Category:Christian scholars wasn't created until just under two weeks later.) 142.160.131.220 (talk) 03:26, 31 December 2019 (UTC)
- For the avoidance of doubt, I've removed the category from Hugh Pilkington. 142.160.131.220 (talk) 23:23, 2 January 2020 (UTC)
- @Armbrust: In either case, I'm not sure how this wouldn't meet the speedy criteria. 142.160.131.220 (talk) 04:03, 8 January 2020 (UTC)
- Oppose as ambiguous. The proposed title doesn't make it clear whether the category is about scholars of Eastern Orthodox faith or scholars of Eastern Orthodoxy. Armbrust The Homunculus 10:59, 29 December 2019 (UTC)
- Category:Styles of sovereigns to Category:Imperial, royal and noble styles – C2D. PPEMES (talk) 17:56, 27 December 2019 (UTC)
- PPEMES The main article is actually Imperial, royal, and noble styles. So this should be renamed to Category:Imperial, royal, and noble styles. Armbrust The Homunculus 10:18, 29 December 2019 (UTC)
- I guess a grammatical question? However, I'd be inclined to correct also the grammar of tte main article in accordance, to the best of my understanding, to contemporary English grammar? PPEMES (talk) 12:42, 29 December 2019 (UTC)
- The article title is not currently discussed, so C2D implies supporting Armbrust's alternative. Marcocapelle (talk) 20:46, 31 December 2019 (UTC)
- MOS:SERIAL says either convention for commas may be followed (usage within a page must be consistent). My personal preference would be to rename the article, removing the serial comma. However, I oppose speedy renaming to match that article, since it would widen the scope of the category. I have demoted the standing of the article on the category page by using {{cat more}} rather than {{cat main}}. I suggest instead a full CFR to "Royal styles". – Fayenatic London 21:58, 31 December 2019 (UTC)
- I have boldly moved the article back to Royal and noble styles (its name until boldly moved by PPEMES in Dec 2018; Dicklyon moved it again in April 2019, inserting the serial comma). – Fayenatic London 09:40, 1 January 2020 (UTC)
- The article title is not currently discussed, so C2D implies supporting Armbrust's alternative. Marcocapelle (talk) 20:46, 31 December 2019 (UTC)
- I guess a grammatical question? However, I'd be inclined to correct also the grammar of tte main article in accordance, to the best of my understanding, to contemporary English grammar? PPEMES (talk) 12:42, 29 December 2019 (UTC)
- Category:WikiProject Jackass to Category:Jackass task force – C2D. Gonnym (talk) 16:02, 26 December 2019 (UTC)
- Oppose - I missed a batch of these before Christmas but several of these names don't work as they're ambiguous (and the pre-Christmas ones had ambiguous horrors like Category:House task force. In this case the parent article is at Jackass (franchise) and the parent category was deleted in per Cfd in 2007 and recreated as Category:Jackass (TV series) in 2014 (as an aside, it should probably be C2D'd). Either this should be renamed to Category:Jackass (franchise) task force or (better I think) Category:WikiProject Television Jackass task force - and probably all of them should be renamed to the latter format.Le Deluge (talk) 11:14, 28 December 2019 (UTC)
- Le Deluge is confusing parent TV series/franchise article, with the parent task force article, which is indeed at WP:WikiProject Television/Jackass task force. The "/" is not part of the title, but a sub-page divider as can be seen by the link at the top it provides back to the main article. --Gonnym (talk) 11:40, 28 December 2019 (UTC)
- You're wrong - in Mediawiki terms, per WP:Page name
A subpagename is just a label inside its pagename, with a software-added / slash delimiter
. The full name of that subpage is WP:WikiProject Television/Jackass task force. But aside from that, the new name you're proposing is ambiguous (and it's even more obvious with other ones you've made like Category:House task force ). That's the real problem.Le Deluge (talk) 15:56, 28 December 2019 (UTC)- You obviously have no idea what you are talking about. Read Wikipedia:Article titles#Article title format#Do not create subsidiary articles, and then Wikipedia:Subpages#Allowed uses and Wikipedia:Subpages#Wikipedia namespaces that do not have sub-pages and see that while the feature of creating a sub-page is enabled in a namespace, like it is in the portal one, that
even if an article is considered subsidiary to another, it should be named independently
, hence as I said above, the page name is in-fact "Jackass task force" and you are continuing to repeat your incorrect and false opinions. Please brush-up on policies and terminology. Also, while I'm sure your incorrect and pointless opposition will work, as I've told you on my talk page, all you'll accomplish is that 5 task forces out of the 100+ on en.wiki will use a completely different style, some of them in addition will incorrectly still be titled WikiProjects, as you are obviously not going to address the complete category tree. --Gonnym (talk) 23:58, 28 December 2019 (UTC)
- You obviously have no idea what you are talking about. Read Wikipedia:Article titles#Article title format#Do not create subsidiary articles, and then Wikipedia:Subpages#Allowed uses and Wikipedia:Subpages#Wikipedia namespaces that do not have sub-pages and see that while the feature of creating a sub-page is enabled in a namespace, like it is in the portal one, that
- You're wrong - in Mediawiki terms, per WP:Page name
- Le Deluge is confusing parent TV series/franchise article, with the parent task force article, which is indeed at WP:WikiProject Television/Jackass task force. The "/" is not part of the title, but a sub-page divider as can be seen by the link at the top it provides back to the main article. --Gonnym (talk) 11:40, 28 December 2019 (UTC)
- Oppose - I missed a batch of these before Christmas but several of these names don't work as they're ambiguous (and the pre-Christmas ones had ambiguous horrors like Category:House task force. In this case the parent article is at Jackass (franchise) and the parent category was deleted in per Cfd in 2007 and recreated as Category:Jackass (TV series) in 2014 (as an aside, it should probably be C2D'd). Either this should be renamed to Category:Jackass (franchise) task force or (better I think) Category:WikiProject Television Jackass task force - and probably all of them should be renamed to the latter format.Le Deluge (talk) 11:14, 28 December 2019 (UTC)
- Category:WikiProject CSI franchise to Category:CSI task force – C2D. Gonnym (talk) 16:01, 26 December 2019 (UTC)
- Oppose Not a C2D - CSI is a disambiguation page, you want CSI (franchise). Per above, should be renamed to either Category:CSI (franchise) task force or Category:WikiProject Television CSI task force Le Deluge (talk) 11:14, 28 December 2019 (UTC)
- Le Deluge is confusing parent TV series/franchise article, with the parent task force article, which is indeed at WP:WikiProject Television/CSI task force. The "/" is not part of the title, but a sub-page divider as can be seen by the link at the top it provides back to the main article. --Gonnym (talk) 11:40, 28 December 2019 (UTC)
- Oppose Not a C2D - CSI is a disambiguation page, you want CSI (franchise). Per above, should be renamed to either Category:CSI (franchise) task force or Category:WikiProject Television CSI task force Le Deluge (talk) 11:14, 28 December 2019 (UTC)
- Category:WikiProject Red Dwarf to Category:Red Dwarf task force – C2D. Gonnym (talk) 16:05, 26 December 2019 (UTC)
- Oppose Not a C2D, as the original name already includes the original Red Dwarf article name, a C2D would be matching Wikipedia:WikiProject_Television/Red_Dwarf_task_force and include WP Television in the name.Le Deluge (talk) 11:14, 28 December 2019 (UTC)
- Le Deluge is confusing parent TV series/franchise article, with the parent task force article, which is indeed at WP:WikiProject Television/Red Dwarf task force. The "/" is not part of the title, but a sub-page divider as can be seen by the link at the top it provides back to the main article. --Gonnym (talk) 11:40, 28 December 2019 (UTC)
- Category:WikiProject Red Dwarf articles to Category:Red Dwarf task force articles – C2C. Gonnym (talk) 15:56, 26 December 2019 (UTC)
- Oppose Not a C2D, as the original name already includes the original Red Dwarf article name, a C2D would be matching Wikipedia:WikiProject_Television/Red_Dwarf_task_force and include WP Television in the name.Le Deluge (talk) 11:14, 28 December 2019 (UTC)
- Category:WikiProject Firefly articles to Category:Firefly task force articles – C2C. Gonnym (talk) 15:53, 26 December 2019 (UTC)
- Oppose - again, the parent article is Firefly (TV series) Le Deluge (talk) 11:14, 28 December 2019 (UTC)
- Le Deluge is confusing parent TV series/franchise article, with the parent task force article, which is indeed at WP:WikiProject Television/Firefly task force. The "/" is not part of the title, but a sub-page divider as can be seen by the link at the top it provides back to the main article. --Gonnym (talk) 11:40, 28 December 2019 (UTC)
- Oppose - again, the parent article is Firefly (TV series) Le Deluge (talk) 11:14, 28 December 2019 (UTC)
- Category:WikiProject 24 members to Category:24 task force members – C2D. Gonnym (talk) 15:52, 26 December 2019 (UTC)
- Oppose - again, the parent article is 24 (TV series) Le Deluge (talk) 11:14, 28 December 2019 (UTC)
- Le Deluge is confusing parent TV series/franchise article, with the parent task force article, which is indeed at WP:WikiProject Television/24 task force. The "/" is not part of the title, but a sub-page divider as can be seen by the link at the top it provides back to the main article. --Gonnym (talk) 11:40, 28 December 2019 (UTC)
- Oppose - again, the parent article is 24 (TV series) Le Deluge (talk) 11:14, 28 December 2019 (UTC)
- Category:Films directed by Jake Scott (director) to Category:Films directed by Jake Scott per C2B. For some reason, the two football players of the same name haven't made any films, the slackers. Clarityfiend (talk) 20:51, 17 December 2019 (UTC)
- Oppose The main article of the category is Jake Scott (director). Armbrust The Homunculus 03:38, 18 December 2019 (UTC)
- Category:Website monitoring software to Category:Website monitoring – C2D Website monitoring Le Deluge (talk) 18:25, 17 December 2019 (UTC)
- Oppose The only article in the category is about a software and it's also a subcategory of Category:Web server management software. Armbrust The Homunculus 21:25, 18 December 2019 (UTC)
- @Armbrust: So what is your objection to the C2D? Surely if it's a slim category then a more general name is better than WP:OVERCATEGORISATION, and it's generally better to have a name that matches the article exactly.Le Deluge (talk) 11:23, 22 December 2019 (UTC)
- Oppose The only article in the category is about a software and it's also a subcategory of Category:Web server management software. Armbrust The Homunculus 21:25, 18 December 2019 (UTC)
- Category:People who compete in parasports to Category:Parasports competitors – Per parent Category:Sports competitors. People-centred language is not required when the focus is occupational. SFB 18:48, 14 December 2019 (UTC)
- Oppose speedy Current name was chosen during a full discussion. (Also Parasports redirects to Disabled sports). Armbrust The Homunculus 12:13, 15 December 2019 (UTC)
- Category:Areas of computer science to Category:Subfields of computer science – C2C: Both the parent, Category:Subfields by academic discipline, and nearly half of the other subcats use "Subfields". (The rest are a hodgepodge of different words, such as Fields, Branches, Subdisciplines, etc.) NONE of them use "Areas". Anomalous+0 (talk) 07:36, 14 December 2019 (UTC)
- "The rest are a hodgepodge of different words" = no clear convention in the category, so oppose speedy. Armbrust The Homunculus 11:32, 14 December 2019 (UTC)
- If I was proposing to rename ALL of the other subcats to "Subfields" I would entirely agree with you - THAT would indeed require a fullblown CFD. But please note that this subcat is a very lonely outlier: the ONLY one that uses "Areas", and also the only one I'm trying to rename. Given that "Subfields" stands head & shoulders above the rest of the subcats and is also used in the parent category, it seems to me that Speedy can be allowed for this single category, just to get it out of the way. Anomalous+0 (talk) 16:14, 14 December 2019 (UTC)
- "The rest are a hodgepodge of different words" = no clear convention in the category, so oppose speedy. Armbrust The Homunculus 11:32, 14 December 2019 (UTC)
- Request merge of Category:Hostage dramas into Category:Films about hostage takings because not all films about hostage takings are necessarily dramas. --Nicholas0 (talk) 01:49, 13 December 2019 (UTC)
- Oppose - not a speedy. Also the wrong tags have been used. Oculi (talk) 03:57, 13 December 2019 (UTC)
- Category:F.E.A.R. (series) to Category:F.E.A.R. – C2D: Rename to match name of main series article ZXCVBNM (TALK) 10:09, 10 December 2019 (UTC)
- There is F.E.A.R. (disambiguation) so C2D doesn't apply. Crouch, Swale (talk) 11:31, 10 December 2019 (UTC)
- Fairly sure it still does, since F.E.A.R. is the primary topic for the word.ZXCVBNM (TALK) 22:26, 10 December 2019 (UTC)
- "This applies only if... unambiguous", so opposed as speedy; this would require a full CfD discussion.– Fayenatic London 20:52, 13 December 2019 (UTC)
- Fairly sure it still does, since F.E.A.R. is the primary topic for the word.ZXCVBNM (TALK) 22:26, 10 December 2019 (UTC)
- There is F.E.A.R. (disambiguation) so C2D doesn't apply. Crouch, Swale (talk) 11:31, 10 December 2019 (UTC)
- Category:Somalian emigrants to Australia to Category:Somali emigrants to Australia per parent category (see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2019 November 19#Category:Somalian emigrants) --DannyS712 (talk) 00:34, 27 November 2019 (UTC)
- Category:Somalian emigrants to Austria to Category:Somali emigrants to Austria
- Category:Somalian emigrants to Belgium to Category:Somali emigrants to Belgium
- Category:Somalian emigrants to Canada to Category:Somali emigrants to Canada
- Category:Somalian emigrants to Denmark to Category:Somali emigrants to Denmark
- Category:Somalian emigrants to Finland to Category:Somali emigrants to Finland
- Category:Somalian emigrants to Ireland to Category:Somali emigrants to Ireland
- Category:Somalian emigrants to Italy to Category:Somali emigrants to Italy
- Category:Somalian emigrants to the Netherlands to Category:Somali emigrants to the Netherlands
- Category:Somalian emigrants to Norway to Category:Somali emigrants to Norway
- Category:Somalian emigrants to Pakistan to Category:Somali emigrants to Pakistan
- Category:Somalian emigrants to Poland to Category:Somali emigrants to Poland
- Category:Somalian emigrants to Sweden to Category:Somali emigrants to Sweden
- Category:Somalian emigrants to Switzerland to Category:Somali emigrants to Switzerland
- Category:Somalian emigrants to Uganda to Category:Somali emigrants to Uganda
- Category:Somalian emigrants to the United Kingdom to Category:Somali emigrants to the United Kingdom
- Category:Somalian emigrants to the United States to Category:Somali emigrants to the United States
- @DannyS712: Oppose for now, and we may need to revisit the CfD discussion that renamed 'Somalian' to 'Somali', since it erased any distinction between the nationality and the ethnicity and also ignored the separate existence of Category:Somalian people and Category:Somali people. While 'Somali' is the demonym for someone from Somalia, it also refers to the Somali ethnic group, which accounts for only 85% of the population of Somalia—i.e., 15 percent of Somali nationals are not ethnic Somalis. -- Black Falcon (talk) 18:13, 28 November 2019 (UTC)
On hold pending other discussion
- Category:History of Greek Antiquity by period to Category:History of ancient Greece by period – C2D/C2C per ancient Greece, Category:Ancient Greece Brandmeistertalk 10:02, 2 November 2019 (UTC)
- Not sure if this is speedy-able, but suggest alt. Category:Ancient Greece by period, to match Category:Ancient Rome by period. "History of" seems redundant when referring to ancient Greece. -- Black Falcon (talk) 03:58, 4 November 2019 (UTC)
- @Black Falcon: It follows Category:Former countries by period where the format is History of Foo by period. Brandmeistertalk 09:07, 4 November 2019 (UTC)
- In view of this, I think the nomination can not proceed as speedy.--Ymblanter (talk) 19:58, 7 November 2019 (UTC)
- Moving to 'On hold' pending the related CfD discussion. While this category need not automatically follow whatever is decided there, we should probably hold off doing anything until that discussion closes. -- Black Falcon (talk) 19:00, 1 December 2019 (UTC)
- In view of this, I think the nomination can not proceed as speedy.--Ymblanter (talk) 19:58, 7 November 2019 (UTC)
- @Black Falcon: It follows Category:Former countries by period where the format is History of Foo by period. Brandmeistertalk 09:07, 4 November 2019 (UTC)
- Not sure if this is speedy-able, but suggest alt. Category:Ancient Greece by period, to match Category:Ancient Rome by period. "History of" seems redundant when referring to ancient Greece. -- Black Falcon (talk) 03:58, 4 November 2019 (UTC)
- Category:Greek Antiquity in art and culture to Category:Ancient Greece in popular culture – C2D/C2C per ancient Greece, Category:Ancient Greece and Category:Places in popular culture. Brandmeistertalk 09:50, 2 November 2019 (UTC)
- Oppose speedy, the label "popular culture" is not supported by the category's contents, plus the category is also a member of Category:Classical antiquity in modern art and culture. -- Black Falcon (talk) 04:03, 4 November 2019 (UTC)
- @Black Falcon: Then perhaps Category:Ancient Greece in modern art and culture. Brandmeistertalk 09:07, 4 November 2019 (UTC)
- In view of this, I think the nomination can not proceed as speedy.--Ymblanter (talk) 19:58, 7 November 2019 (UTC)
- Moving to 'On hold' pending the related CfD discussion. While this category need not automatically follow whatever is decided there, we should probably hold off doing anything until that discussion closes. -- Black Falcon (talk) 19:00, 1 December 2019 (UTC)
- In view of this, I think the nomination can not proceed as speedy.--Ymblanter (talk) 19:58, 7 November 2019 (UTC)
- @Black Falcon: Then perhaps Category:Ancient Greece in modern art and culture. Brandmeistertalk 09:07, 4 November 2019 (UTC)
- Oppose speedy, the label "popular culture" is not supported by the category's contents, plus the category is also a member of Category:Classical antiquity in modern art and culture. -- Black Falcon (talk) 04:03, 4 November 2019 (UTC)
Moved to full discussion
- Category:Hospitals associated with the Catholic Church in Africa to Category:Hospitals affiliated with the Catholic Church in Africa – C2C: To match Category:Hospitals affiliated with the Catholic Church. This assumes that there is not intended to be a distinction between affiliation and association. Rathfelder (talk) 23:58, 30 December 2019 (UTC)
- Category:Hospitals associated with the Catholic Church in North America to Category:Hospitals affiliated with the Catholic Church in North America
- Category:Hospitals associated with the Catholic Church in Europe to Category:Hospitals affiliiated with the Catholic Church in Europe
- Category:Hospitals associated with the Catholic Church in Asia to Category:Hospitals affiliated with the Catholic Church in Asia
- Comment: These all sound wrong to me, but apparently "affiliated with" is common usage in the US, whereas "affiliated to" is usual in the UK. (dictionary.com) So, this can go ahead. – Fayenatic London 11:09, 31 December 2019 (UTC)
- Oppose speedy There is no clear convention for the proposed format, as 4 subcategories use "affiliated" and 4 use "associated". Armbrust The Homunculus 18:39, 31 December 2019 (UTC)
- There is a superior category Category:Catholic hospitals, and that is the usage I would prefer, so perhaps we should move this to a full discussion. Rathfelder (talk) 23:25, 2 January 2020 (UTC)
- Moved to full discussion. Marcocapelle (talk) 14:49, 3 January 2020 (UTC)
- Category:Polish history websites to Category:History websites of Poland – C2E. Rathfelder (talk) 19:05, 25 November 2019 (UTC)
- Oppose as inconsistent with Category:Polish websites (convention of Category:Websites by country). In addition, "of Poland" implies these are state-owned websites, which they are not. The other History websites of Foo categories in Category:History websites should be renamed to follow the Fooian websites convention, until/unless that convention as a whole is changed. -- Black Falcon (talk) 05:29, 26 November 2019 (UTC)
- The point is that they are websites based in Foo. Not necessarily concerned with the history of Foo. Rathfelder (talk) 22:11, 27 November 2019 (UTC)
- That's a reasonable argument to make at a full CfD, but the fact is there are two competing conventions here: Fooian websites and Websites of Foo, and the former is much more common than the latter. -- Black Falcon (talk) 18:04, 28 November 2019 (UTC)
- The point is that they are websites based in Foo. Not necessarily concerned with the history of Foo. Rathfelder (talk) 22:11, 27 November 2019 (UTC)
- Moved this to a full CfD. Rathfelder (talk) 20:33, 28 November 2019 (UTC)
- Link to discussion. -- Black Falcon (talk) 04:43, 29 November 2019 (UTC)
- It was relisted at CFD 2019 Dec 8. Armbrust The Homunculus 16:42, 8 December 2019 (UTC)
- Oppose as inconsistent with Category:Polish websites (convention of Category:Websites by country). In addition, "of Poland" implies these are state-owned websites, which they are not. The other History websites of Foo categories in Category:History websites should be renamed to follow the Fooian websites convention, until/unless that convention as a whole is changed. -- Black Falcon (talk) 05:29, 26 November 2019 (UTC)
- Category:Wydad AC footballers to Category:Wydad AC players – C2C, match naming convention of parent category (Category:Footballers in Morocco by club). GiantSnowman 09:16, 19 September 2019 (UTC) GiantSnowman 09:16, 19 September 2019 (UTC)
- Oppose Wydad AC is a multi-sport club. Armbrust The Homunculus 10:02, 20 September 2019 (UTC)
- @Armbrust: irrelevant given the 'Wydad AC' article is only about the football team. GiantSnowman 18:02, 20 September 2019 (UTC)
- Support. Armbrust is right about Wydad AC being a multi-sport club, but still as GiantSnowman said the club article is discussing the football team only, similar to most other African and Arab multi-sport clubs as their football teams are usually the most notable. We have Category:Al Ahly SC players for example; Al Ahly is a multi-sport club in Egypt but the article Al Ahly SC is discussing the football team only, so it's okay to use players instead of footballers in cases like this one. Ben5218 (talk) 19:15, 4 October 2019 (UTC)
- Now at full discussion. – Fayenatic London 09:53, 1 November 2019 (UTC)
- It was relisted at CFD 2019 Nov 10. Armbrust The Homunculus 09:19, 11 November 2019 (UTC)
- Oppose Wydad AC is a multi-sport club. Armbrust The Homunculus 10:02, 20 September 2019 (UTC)
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