Talk:Changi Airport

Requested move 9 October 2020

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: Moved. (closed by non-admin page mover) -- Calidum 02:46, 22 October 2020 (UTC)

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Singapore Changi Airport → Changi Airport – As per WP:COMMONNAME, we should be using the most common name. Changi Airport is searched 4.5x more than Singapore Changi Airport, and the website refers always to the airport as "Changi Airport", with the only exception being in the browser title tags. ItsPugle (please ping on reply) 11:33, 9 October 2020 (UTC)

Support - "Changi Airport" itself is more well-known than "Singapore Changi Airport". TheGreatSG'rean (talk) 10:43, 12 October 2020 (UTC)

• Support - "Changi Airport" is more appropriate. No airport articles have their country in their name. Itsquietuptown t • c 23:12, 12 October 2020 (UTC)

  @Itsquietuptown: Uh, Shanghai, Hong Kong, Taiwan? Singapore is a country yes, but it's also just a city. You can't really compare that with other countries. Bouymid (talk) 21:36, 13 October 2020 (UTC)

  @Bouymid: You're right, we do have some articles that include the region's name in the article title. That being said: the Taiwan airport you linked to doesn't (Taoyuan International Airport) and Hong Kong's international airport is literally just called "Hong Kong International Airport" so it isn't particularly relevant in comparison. Also as a comment to your below !vote, the official names policy actually explicitly says ...common names are generally preferred over official names as article titles... - while there are some exceptions, set out in topic-specific naming conventions, no such exceptions apply here. ItsPugle (please ping on reply) 07:08, 15 October 2020 (UTC)

• Oppose – per WP:OFFICIAL, and "Singapore Changi Airport" is what the airport is mostly known as, especially internationally. Google Trends is hardly the baseline for accuracy, it's something that should only be taken with a pinch of salt. Bouymid (talk) 21:36, 13 October 2020 (UTC)

Its not accuracy that's the problem, its how common the name is. Its that "Changi Airport" is the name used by people, falling in line with WP:COMMONNAME. Accuracy is not the only criteria for an article's name. Itsquietuptown t • c 01:39, 15 October 2020 (UTC)

Support: WP:COMMONNAME goes first. "Singapore" existing in the title has nearly no use for readers to identify the airport. Σανμοσα^{The Trve Lawe of free Monarchies} 06:01, 17 October 2020 (UTC)

Taoyuan International Airport and Hong Kong International Airport are different cases. "Hong Kong International Airport" itself is a common name; Taiwan has more than one international airport, which results in the need of disambiguation. Σανμοσα^{The Trve Lawe of free Monarchies} 06:04, 17 October 2020 (UTC)

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

Changi Airport's logo

I vaguely remember seeing a logo on this page. What happened to it? Grsangekoek (talk) 17:55, 12 August 2021 (UTC)

Splitting proposal

I propose that section Changi Airport#Airlines and destinations be split into a separate page called List of Changi Airport airlines and destinations. While the article is not so long that a size split is needed, the length of the list makes the article difficult to read, and it is not so relevant that it needs to be at the main article. BilledMammal (talk) 05:30, 5 January 2022 (UTC)

BilledMammal, is there a similar split on the other airport articles? – robertsky (talk) 08:57, 11 January 2022 (UTC)

I don't know. It's currently proposed for Heathrow Airport. BilledMammal (talk) 09:11, 11 January 2022 (UTC)

• I would tentatively support such a split, as it seems sensible to not have such long lists on otherwise mostly prose airport articles (a format split rather than a size split). I can see the benefits in readability, and also in hiving off what is the main target for unsourced changes in these articles. My support is only tentative as this seems like the sort of idea that should have some expected standard over various airports (or at least those with let's say over 10 destinations), and so it might be useful to have a slightly wider discussion over a localised consensus. CMD (talk) 09:57, 11 January 2022 (UTC)
• Strong oppose Absolutely no reason to make readers go to a separate page for this. It's key information readers go to airport articles for, and it's a disservice to move that out. The article is not difficult to read because one table is long, and this would achieve nothing. Reywas92^Talk 21:44, 17 January 2022 (UTC)
• Strong oppose I agree with what the user above wrote. There is absolutely no need for a separate article to be created just for airport destinations. The lists are integral parts of airport Wikipedia pages and there is no need to separate and create a different page just for lists. Yellow alligator (talk)

A RFC on splitting "Airlines and Destinations" out from articles has been opened since 16 January. Rather than continue the discussion here, responding to the RFC may yield a better consensus among all interested editors. – robertsky (talk) 05:16, 24 January 2022 (UTC)

• Strong oppose No reason to move it to a separate page. It is useful information to have in the current location. Gusfriend (talk) 01:37, 26 January 2022 (UTC)

Passenger Number by year chart shows as time

AS indicated in title, the graph needs to be reformatted to show years e.g 2020 is shown as 8:20pm — Preceding unsigned comment added by 103.137.210.75 (talk) 07:40, 26 June 2022 (UTC)

Changi Airport Logo is wrong on the page & Add a footnote that Changi Airport Singapore Logo is obsolete

• What I think should be changed: The Changi Airport Singapore Logo to be changed to the Changi Airport Group
• Why it should be changed:Changi Airport Singapore logo which is no longer in use since 2017.
• References supporting the possible change (format using the "cite" button):

"https://www.changiairport.com/"

The Changi Airport’s Wikipedia page is showing Changi Airport Singapore logo which is no longer in use. A Changi Airport Group staff has changed it to Changi Airport Group logo in 2017 using their official wiki account but recently (2023) someone change it back and now their account is suspended. Is there a long-term solution for this? Also, we need to put in a footnote that the Changi Airport Singapore logo is obsolete.

116.12.248.162 (talk) 06:02, 22 August 2023 (UTC)

References

 Go ahead: I have reviewed these proposed changes and suggest that you go ahead and make the proposed changes to the page. Lightoil (talk) 04:14, 23 August 2023 (UTC)

Logo

@Cankin3 and 202.55.83.233: Continuing the discussion I left on your talkpage, there is unnecessary for logos to include anything like "airport group", "co., ltd", etc. if there are simple ones available. There is no rule on here that every article has to conform to the very exact logo used on the company's website. Specially for airports, it's a pretty common practice to use only the ones specific to the airport itself when possible; for example, Kuala Lumpur Int'l, Bangkok Suvarnabhumi, Beijing Capital, Guangzhou Baiyun, etc. differ from their own official websites. There is nothing misleading about using the one that is currently on the article. Instead of edit warring like you have been doing, you need to discuss your changes appropriately. ɴᴋᴏɴ21 ❯❯❯ talk 14:30, 20 March 2024 (UTC)

@Nkon21:, do you have a citation for File:Changi Airport logo.svg being the active logo used by the airport? Because that would go a long way toward making your case here. --SarekOfVulcan (talk) 14:38, 20 March 2024 (UTC)

It is commonly used by media such as Skytrax, Centre for Aviation, as well as Changi Airport's own social media page when they opened the Jewel. ɴᴋᴏɴ21 ❯❯❯ talk 14:55, 20 March 2024 (UTC)

That Facebook page is 5 years old, and the other two pages don't have an indication of when they were last updated. What do you have that's verifiably current? --SarekOfVulcan (talk) 15:05, 20 March 2024 (UTC)

As far as I'm aware, Skytrax updates their ratings every year, with the last release on March 15, 2023. Nonetheless, I don't quite see why the airport's management group should be used. Changi Airport Group manages its website and social media accounts so it would make sense to use their logo in those cases, but for Wikipedia, File:Changi Airport logo.svg is simply fine. ɴᴋᴏɴ21 ❯❯❯ talk 15:25, 20 March 2024 (UTC)

It's only simply fine if it hasn't been replaced by something else. --SarekOfVulcan (talk) 15:27, 20 March 2024 (UTC)

So far the WayBack machine showed the use of the group-logo in January 2018, for what that is worth. The Banner talk 15:32, 20 March 2024 (UTC)

The non-group (Changi Airport Singapore) logo was introduced in May 2010, time travel back to end of May 2010 shows the website having this logo. It wasn't until middle of September 2019 where the group (Changi Airport Group) logo replaced the non-group logo near the official opening of Jewel Changi Airport. This also extends beyond online usage, such as real-life promotional materials with the final usage for non-group log depicts in January 2019, and recent images depicts the group logo. As for their media's releases usages that has logos, the final usage for non-group logo was in June 2019. The first appearance of group logo was in November 2019 after the official opening of Jewel. The only evidence I could find of the non-group logo still being used was video footage uploaded in 2023 by YouTuber showing how to self check in where the machine features the logo (whether or not it's engraved is unclear), for example this at 0:13 in Terminal 4 or this from the start in Terminal 1. Is it however unclear if the recently reopened Terminal 2 which features new machines uses the non-group logo or group logo, I would assumed that it is the latter. — Paper9oll (🔔 • 📝) 16:50, 20 March 2024 (UTC)

Ok, those videos are useful, thanks. --SarekOfVulcan (talk) 18:02, 20 March 2024 (UTC)