Talk:Technoblade

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Good articleTechnoblade has been listed as one of the Video games good articles under the good article criteria. If you can improve it further, please do so. If it no longer meets these criteria, you can reassess it.
Did You KnowIn the news Article milestones
DateProcessResult
July 5, 2022Good article nomineeNot listed
August 16, 2022Good article nomineeListed
Did You Know A fact from this article appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the "Did you know?" column on July 25, 2022.
The text of the entry was: Did you know ... that deceased YouTuber Technoblade beat the video game Minecraft in hardcore mode using a racing-wheel controller?
In the news A news item involving this article was featured on Wikipedia's Main Page in the "In the news" column on July 2, 2022.
Current status: Good article

Semi-protected edit request on 18 July 2023

Add this section: 'The One of Us Global Foundation' was started by Technoblade's dad, in memory of Alexander.[1]. Along with this, the Festival of Voices, a Minecraft event that many of Technoblade's friends took part in, raised $80,000 for the newly created Foundation.[2][3][4] Bumpjammy (talk) 16:11, 18 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

 Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. — Paper9oll (🔔 • 📝) 16:15, 18 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
 Not done: While there is in invisible sentence addressing the Festival of Voices, there is currently a lack of reliable, non-primary sources available as citations to support these claims. Until such reliable sources surface, it will remain invisible. Cheers, u|RayDeeUx (contribs | talk page) 19:59, 18 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

References

  1. ^ https://www.oneofusglobal.org/
  2. ^ https://twitter.com/Technothepig/status/1662504123810324481
  3. ^ https://www.oneofusglobal.org/festival
  4. ^ https://tiltify.com/@technodad/festival-of-voices/

Can we remove the part where it says that he died on the date of 30 June?

As seen in tommyinnit's (a close friend of techno) video called "365 days without Technoblade" he last dmed tommy on discord thanking him for being his friend on June 9th, meaning the date of death being June 30th is unlikely. Can we make the date of death more compressed and have it around June 9th? LuxembourgBoy42 (talk) 14:39, 9 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Hi! You are correct that it should not say June 30th-- the consensus is that it should just say June since we don't have further details. That said, I don't see where it says June 30th on the article right now. Blue Edits (talk) 16:05, 9 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
The article has been maintaining the "June 2022" date of death for quite some time now, especially with the invisible wikitext, edit notices, talk page FAQs, and edit protection levels in place as of writing this reply. This date of death will remain as-is until there is a confirmation about Technoblade's precise date of death from a reliable source (most likely from his immediate blood-bound family), and any attempts to revise the date of death without a reliable source will be reverted swiftly.
This should go without saying, but unfortunately, Discord messages from any context are several light-years away from meeting Wikipedia's reliable source policy. Cheers, u|RayDeeUx (contribs | talk page) 14:18, 10 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-protected edit request on 9 September 2023

In the tributes section, Ph1LzA’s statue he built in honor of Technoblade in his hardcore world could potentially be added alongside the photo of TommyInnit’s tribute from his live show. It is a photo of a sword draped in Technoblade’s cape shown in his Minecraft skin with a crown. TommyInnit’s tribute video in honor of the one year anniversary of Technoblade’s death entitled “365 Days Without Technoblade” should be added. He uploaded the video on June 30th, 2023. 2603:7000:D93E:E59C:3CC6:2E39:C0AE:5114 (talk) 06:16, 9 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. More specifically, in addition to this requiring a reliable source, it is unclear just what it is you are proposing to add. Is it an image with a proposed caption? Is it specific language to be added to a paragraph (or in a paragraph on its own)? etc. -- Pinchme123 (talk) 03:00, 10 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

10th?

58.171.175.179 (talk) 11:00, 23 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

In the incredibly unlikely event that you find this reply, please guide your eyes to the top of this talk page, where you'll find precisely why the main article has omitted Technoblade's exact date of death (despite the URL you have provided). Cheers, u|RayDeeUx (contribs | talk page) 20:19, 24 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-protected edit request on 4 November 2023

I need to make some changes to this article. MongoDb2007 (talk) 18:34, 4 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. Cannolis (talk) 18:35, 4 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Reopening WP:RSSM discussion about Technoblade at the University of Iowa

An invisible comment in the Personal life section tells editors not to mention that Technoblade went to the University of Iowa without a consensus that The Daily Iowan is reliable. The article in question is here[1] and it appeared in a print issue looking like this.[2]

After carefully reading WP:RSSM (a summary of past WP:RSN discussions, not a policy) and the four discussions linked there (incidentally, none of which was an RfC with a proper close), I believe that in this case The Daily Iowan is a reliable source for citing that Technoblade attended the University of Iowa. WP:RSSM states: Reputable student media outlets, such as The Harvard Crimson, are considered generally reliable sources for news on their school and local community. Student media (i.e. student newspapers) are not independent enough to establish notability of article subjects, but that is not what we are doing here. We are merely using it to cite a fact. The four discussions linked at RSSM also mention that student media also can have WP:DUE issues, especially when the school community itself is involved. However, none of these issues apply here.

As for the reliability of The Daily Iowan in particular, they have won several National Pacemaker Awards and were named Newspaper of the Year by the Iowa Newspaper Association four times. The newspaper was founded in 1868, which makes it over 150 years old. Both awards and age have been cited in RSN discussions are being indicative of student newspaper reliability.

The fact that Technoblade attended the University of Iowa has not been disputed. There is a reliable student newspaper article to back this claim up, in addition to the less reliable photo and Reddit comment from his father.[3] Were it not for the present invisible comment and previous talk page discussion archived in two sections here, I would feel very confident in adding this information immediately. Even though that discussion never reached a consensus against using this source, or even a "no consensus" close, I wanted to ping all the editors involved out of courtesy in case there are any objections. Even if there aren't, this should provide a grounding in precedent if this source is disputed again in future. Toadspike (talk) 15:04, 15 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Pings: @User:Choqi3 @User:Callmemirela @User:Blaze Wolf @User:Actualcpscm @User:Strugglehouse @User:Aoidh @User:RayDeeUx @User:M.Bitton @User:Tollens

I'll comment since I was pinged. I believe my only interaction concerning The Daily Iowan with regards to this article's subject was declining an edit request, since the requested edit was not uncontroversial per the discussion. My declining it was not a judgement on the source itself. With that said, the above rationale seems reasonable. Though an additional source would of course help, given the anonymous nature of the subject's identity it's not surprising if there aren't more sources reporting on these types of details. - Aoidh (talk) 15:29, 15 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I would like to mirror Aoidh's previous comments. Given that Technoblade has the good article badge, the real hurdle was finding a valid rationale to include The Daily Iowan as a source while complying with WP:RS and WP:DUE. The stakes are a bit higher here, with the good article badge and all.
Now that there's a valid rationale for it (especially one that will be immortalized into the talk page archives, no doubt), I say we add it in.
I have no objections. Cheers, u|RayDeeUx (contribs | talk page) 13:29, 16 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you for your responses, Aoidh and RayDeeUx, and apologies for pinging literally everyone, which may have been excessive. It seems my rationale has been well-received, so I have added a sentence based on the Daily Iowan article and removed the invisible message against doing so. If someone still has objections, they may still of course revert me, though I would hope to hear a good explanation as well. Improvements to wording and such are of course welcome. If nothing else happens, I think it would be best to assume that this is consensus and move on from the issue. Best, Toadspike (talk) 23:41, 17 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

References

  1. ^ https://dailyiowan.com/2023/04/30/technoblade-never-dies-former-university-of-iowa-student-and-youtuber-remembered-after-death/
  2. ^ https://issuu.com/dailyiowan/docs/dailyiowan3.1.23_e5a27972062ff1
  3. ^ https://www.reddit.com/r/Technoblade/comments/yzjnwm/comment/ix278au/

Real full name and actual date of death

I found on a website called "Find a Grave" that Technoblade's real full name was "Alexander Marshall Gray-Spight" and that he died on June 10, 2022. It also says that he was born in San Francisco, California, and died in Belmont, California. Here's the source for it: https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/256785553/alexander-marshall-gray-spight 2601:195:C001:2630:2149:A5A0:4AE2:DF3 (talk) 23:33, 27 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Anyone could've made that page, so its authenticity is dubious. See WP:RS/P#Find_a_Grave. –MJL ‐Talk‐☖ 23:44, 27 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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