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Please reconsider my draft without an insistence on "major" publications, as this is not one of the requirements. [[User:Cybotik|Cybotik]] ([[User talk:Cybotik|talk]]) 06:41, 17 January 2017 (UTC) |
Please reconsider my draft without an insistence on "major" publications, as this is not one of the requirements. [[User:Cybotik|Cybotik]] ([[User talk:Cybotik|talk]]) 06:41, 17 January 2017 (UTC) |
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The websites I used as sources, despite your dismissal, have been cited multiple times by multiple contributors to Wikipedia, including in two articles in which there were only two sources referenced, and in one of those [[Going Overboard (album)]], the only other source was no longer active. If one of my sources is acceptable as the single valid source for another Wikipedia article, then it should be acceptable as one of several sources in my own article. |
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Follow the links to see the various Wikipedia pages using the same sources I did. |
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01:36:02, 2 September 2016 review of submission by Mothrbrain
- Mothrbrain (talk · contribs)
Hi there, just wanted to say thanks first and foremost for your review and for your feedback. I've taken it on board and significantly expanded the third-party criticism and sources section, adding just what was requested to the point that it is now the longest section in the article. Hopefully that should satisfy the reviewer. If it's possible to proceed with the re-review, I'd be grateful. Thank you!
02:54:33, 9 September 2016 review of submission by 221.237.112.154
Article for review 03:51, 22 September 2016 (UTC)
Just re-posting for review
Hi David,
How is it going? Rattan here again. Can you please review this article https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:1-day.co.nz for me? This is one of the very popular online shopping website of New Zealand based on daily deals concept. Let me know what changes need to happen in order to get this approved. I hope the references from news websites would be enough for notability.
Regards, Rattan
15:36:52, 19 September 2016 review of submission by Matt Secord
- Matt Secord (talk · contribs)
Hi SwisterTwister, I just wanted to reach out and get a bit of clarity on why the Draft was rejected based on notability. I added a lot of very credible references (Wall Street Journal, Barron's, Reuters, New York Times, etc.) throughout the Draft to help solidify Rafay's notability, also, added extra references at the bottom. Thanks!
Request for Huawei Honor article
ResolvedGreetings! Since you implemented my Harry Jackson (artist) article at AfC, I thought I'd see if you were available to review my edit request to implement an expanded and updated Huawei Honor draft. I submitted a request a while back, and I've pinged several people for help, but there must be more editors reviewing AfC drafts than edit requests. If you are willing to help, you can view my edit request at Talk:Huawei Honor. Thanks for your consideration. Inkian Jason (talk) 19:03, 15 December 2016 (UTC)
- This edit request has been answered. Happy New Year! Inkian Jason (talk) 16:04, 3 January 2017 (UTC)
20:44:47, 16 December 2016 review of submission by Mcmlis
Hello SwisterTwister, I'd like to thank you for your feedback on the article I wrote about M. Eduardo Padilla Silva. I have revised the article to include data that supports his noteworthiness as a Mexican business person, including his oversight of FEMSA as it became included on Global finance lists. I think these additions are still independent and keep the article reliable. Please let me know if you can review it again.
06:06:51, 17 December 2016 review of submission by The Serenader
13:07:31, 17 December 2016 review of submission by Eaf92jj2
Good morning SwisterTwister. Can you clarify what should be added or revised in order to get this submission approved? In looking at other wiki band pages, like this one (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Western_Front_(band)) ; I tried to be even more thorough.
Thank you for all of your help and guidance.
References
07:40:45, 23 December 2016 review of submission by Archandrian
- Archandrian (talk · contribs)
Honestly, reading through the professor guidelines, I don't see your point. Starting with the first criteria, "The person's research has made significant impact in their scholarly discipline, broadly construed, as demonstrated by independent reliable sources," The first citation I offer (We Salute), seems to substantiate his contribution to his field. Also, the sixth criteria, "The person has held a highest-level elected or appointed administrative post at a major academic institution or major academic society" seems to be covered through his Presidency at The ASA, an organization that seems broadly equivalent to the IEEE (listed as an an example of a permissable society on that page). I added more citations in an attempt to clarify this for you. Does this satisfy, and, if not, can you provide more detail on what you mean? Your one sentence was pretty vague...
21:20:26, 23 December 2016 review of submission by Doulosservant
Thanks for your fine work, Dave ... I also have a photo from my appearance at the 2016 Tribeca Film Festival that I'd like to add ... It did not let me the first time ... The photo was taken by a friend, but on my cell phone ... What more would I need specifically to get this entry ... and ... is Date of Birth necessary?
09:19:52, 24 December 2016 review of submission by MrBenzedrine42
The submitted article is a first draft; after the addition of more concrete sources and relevant information, it should be more presentable. The subject's activism and political career are not yet fully detailed in the current draft. Since this is my first ever contribution to Wikipedia, I would deeply appreciate suggestions to improve the acceptability of my article.
19:06, 21 December 2016 (UTC) review of submission by Tyttcfm
Thank you for reviewing this article. In the past few days, I've revamped it and added more content and sources to try and meet the notability standards. I hope the article is approvable now. Happy holidays!
21:13:09, 24 December 2016 review of submission by 72.225.0.163
- 72.225.0.163 (talk · contribs)
Col. Leech is notable earlier settler/pioneer of Western NY. He has the same notability as Col. Caleb Hopkins which can be found here:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caleb_Hopkins_(colonel)
What else can be done to get the Col. approved? Many of the sources are independent of each other and have been published. On top of that he has a notable genealogy that should also be considered. Lastly, his home is one of the oldest homes still standing in WNY which is built in the New England style from where he was from.
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00:58:44, 26 December 2016 review of submission by Nashaj79
The article included four references from reliable news sources covering the band as they have toured with a notable Grammy awarding winning artist in recent years. Additionally, the images and references to the band are also currently available with Wikipedia Commons. Can you provide addition guidance on what types of additional coverage would be required to confirm the band's notability? As I have seen other band pages with far less reference information etc., this will help to clarify what more can be added to obtain approval. Thank you for your assistance and I look forward to your feedback as I truly believe this band deserves to be included in the database.
14:04:04, 26 December 2016 review of submission by Rgsedona
Greetings,
I looked at a number of Wikipedia articles which I used as a reference to write this. Such as the wiki for "My Pillow". https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/My_Pillow
That wiki is completely self serving. Mine is less so. If I recraft mine to be more specific about my product only like he did will that work?
Any advice would be appreciated.
Rgds,
Ralph Granchelli
16:06:31, 26 December 2016 review of submission by Raz.korn
Hi SwisterTwister, thanks for reviewing the article on SAP Web IDE.
I saw that the reject reason was regarding information sources.
For this article I used as many non-SAP sources as possible. I used "Enterprise IT World", "CIO", "insideSAP", "TechTarget", "Forbes" and more.
I'd appreciate if you can let me know how I can make this article better and published :-).
20:43:36, 26 December 2016 review of submission by Chris Ivey
- Chris Ivey (talk · contribs)
Dear SisterTwister,
I'm perfectly willing to accept that my submission might need changes or additional content, but I don't think it would serve the public well by simply inserting the content into the unmanned vehicles page. My connection to the term is because of my involvement in military and civilian tech relating to providing spatial awareness for BVLOS operations. I have expertise in this area, but no experience as a Wiki editor.
I do notice that I can search other acronyms like "LOS". Having an entry for each interpretation of the acronym helps with disambiguation.
BVLOS is an acronym that will be generating a lot of searches over the next few years. It is at the center of a lot of legal and regulatory disputes because it is something that has to be addressed in order for the civilian UAV industry to survive. The first organizations with BVLOS clearance will inevitably end up dominating the industry for decades to come. There are literally billions of dollars at stake, and they can only be realized when regulations governing civilian BVLOS operations are agreed and standardized by organizations like the FAA. We are just starting to see enquiries from the scientific press as to what the "BVLOS" acronym means and why it's important. People will likely also be searching it independently of "Unmanned Aerial Vehicle". Users should be able to determine what the acronym means without having to find it in the context of a longer page.
What can be done to make this entry suitable for publication?
20:48:07, 26 December 2016 review of submission by Chris Ivey
- Chris Ivey (talk · contribs)
Dear SisterTwister,
I'm perfectly willing to accept that my submission might need changes or additional content, but I don't think it would serve the public well by simply inserting the content into the unmanned vehicles page. My connection to the term is because of my involvement in military and civilian tech relating to providing spatial awareness for BVLOS operations. I have expertise in this area, but no experience as a Wiki editor.
I do notice that I can search other acronyms like "LOS". Having an entry for each interpretation of the acronym helps with disambiguation.
BVLOS is an acronym that will be generating a lot of searches over the next few years. It is at the center of a lot of legal and regulatory disputes because it is something that has to be addressed in order for the civilian UAV industry to survive. The first organizations with BVLOS clearance will inevitably end up dominating the industry for decades to come. There are literally billions of dollars at stake, and they can only be realized when regulations governing civilian BVLOS operations are agreed and standardized by organizations like the FAA. Groups like ASSUREUAS are working with regulators, and a spate of new rules will be published over the next few months.
We are just starting to see enquiries from the scientific press as to what the "BVLOS" acronym means and why it's important. People will likely also be searching it independently of "Unmanned Aerial Vehicle". Users should be able to determine what the acronym means without having to find it in the context of a longer page.
What can be done to make this entry suitable for publication?
14:30:48, 29 December 2016 review of submission by Asteghene
Hi there, thanks so much for the review of my page submission. I am desperate to know how I can correct the submission since I basically aligned with other pages in the same field that have already been published. In fact, although they all follow the same format, all the pages that I referred to contain various comments about them sounding too "promotional", "reads like a press release", and "written like an advertisement". The last link provided below only uses their own website as citations. Which is why I am so confused my submission didn't pass yet, their has. I would be so appreciative if you could help me understand what exactly I need to edit to have it published.
Thanks so much -m
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/L-ACOUSTICS https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martin_Audio https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/JBL
Carlos Medina
Hello SwisterTwister, I saw your edition in the article Draft:Carlos_Medina, may you please clarify your argument about notability. His work is publicly present in Venezuelan cities, including Caracas major art museums. Please, point me out in the right direction. 23:07, 29 December 2016 (UTC)MaoGo (talk)
Hello SwisterTwister, I corrected the edition. Sorry for the delay, I have already corrected the edition, I wait for you for the next step. MaoGo (talk) 13:57, 9 January 2017 (UTC)
14:54:56, 31 December 2016 review of submission by 106.192.98.134
Hi,
Thanks for reviewing the article.as you said, that the Listed sources are still only company announcements, interviews, mentions and listings.
but their is a company vikram solar ( please see the link https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vikram_Solar), they have same sources as i have with same formats ,but their article don't have any issue on wiki.the article of vikram solar is approved by wikipedia. Why ? please let me know the things .
Thanks a Lot.
21:22:15, 1 January 2017 review of submission by Mcdonalds12345
Hi my article was reviewed and denyd. However I have fixed it and it needs to be rievewed again. The site is existing, yet has not been updated for a few years.
The website because of that does not explain their 2016 "story"
19:16:51, 2 January 2017 review of submission by Taruntaunk1970
I have modified the draft again for Ajay Data. If he is not notable that who will be, I dont know. He is the person who can given email address for IDN domains that too in 11 languages. The worlds was trying to do it last 16 years. Please look at this point of view.
02:14:12, 3 January 2017 review of submission by Musicschool
- Musicschool (talk · contribs)
Excuse me, after spending the whole day creating the page for this recording engineer who has been making
significant records for the past 30 years - I got a rejection within 2 seconds of submitting it. Why? I see far less worthy people and subjects
on wikipedia , all over the place!
02:15:27, 3 January 2017 review of submission by Musicschool
- Musicschool (talk · contribs)
Hello SwisterTwister , after spending the whole day creating the page for this recording engineer who has been making
significant records for the past 30 years - I got a rejection within 2 seconds of submitting it. Why? I see far less worthy people and subjects
on wikipedia , all over the place!
02:17:39, 3 January 2017 review of submission by Musicschool
- Musicschool (talk · contribs)
Hello SwisterTwister , after spending the whole day creating the page for this recording engineer who has been making
significant records for the past 30 years - I got a rejection within 2 seconds of submitting it. Why? I see far less worthy people and subjects
on wikipedia , all over the place!
Could you please let me know what I can do to make this article publishable? Thank you.
02:40:56, 3 January 2017 review of submission by Musicschool
- Musicschool (talk · contribs)
Hello, Swisted twister,
What does this mean please?
"there's no automatic inherited notability from anything or anyone else"
Thank you.
Request on 05:02:10, 3 January 2017 for assistance on AfC submission by Mictan236
Hi there, thanks for taking the time to review my article. I'm not sure I understand "significant coverage." I've read the help article on it, and looked at some other approved pages but I feel like they also included sources that mention their company one off. How can I further improve the page? Also, what kind of information should I include to make it better? Thanks.
Mictan236 (talk) 05:02, 3 January 2017 (UTC)
Mictan236 (talk) 05:02, 3 January 2017 (UTC)
Thanks for your quick response. What is your definition of "significant independent major news"? If the Wall Street Journal does a full length feature about the history and products of the company? Any news article that talks about the company exclusively? Would the news in the controversies section qualify as significant coverage? Mictan236 (talk) 05:22, 3 January 2017 (UTC)
A bit of confusion on creating my first article
Hello SwisterTwister, I'd like to ask for clarification on what exactly to do for self-translating a page, as I did with Draft:Transcription of the Japanese language in Esperanto. I've translated the page, but I am unsure how to setup the article. I've added the interlink for the original Esperanto page and I've added sources from two books and a journal written from the University of Virginia. This talk page may be a bit long-winded but I am unsure of what to do.
Sincerely, Thebitstick (talk) 05:02, 3 January 2017 (UTC)
Submission declined on 23 December 2016 by SwisterTwister
Hi! You recently rejected an article I tried to post: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:SponsoredLinX Could you please clarify which bits are too much like advertising? This is my first article so bear with me :) I've tried to include only facts and haven't included any puff pieces as far as I can see...I've also tried basing it on approved articles from our industry. You mentioned that Services and Awards was too much like PR, but 'Google' lists its services and products, and Wikipedia lists its awards. So...I kind of don't see why we can't include ours? I've tried basing our article off this one, that is also a digital company: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G/O_Digital I also can't see our 'Clients' section? do you mean just the phrase 'an Australian company that delivers digital marketing solutions to small and medium businesses, as well as businesses in New Zealand.'? Would it be better if we listed our clients like: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ogilvy_%26_Mather Let me know :) and thank you for looking over it! P.S. I'm hoping that this is where I reply to you, let me know if I'm in the wrong place :) MileenaKitana (talk) 05:40, 3 January 2017 (UTC)
Submission declined on 23 December 2016 by SwisterTwister
Hi! You recently rejected an article I tried to post: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:SponsoredLinX Could you please clarify which bits are too much like advertising? This is my first article so bear with me :) I've tried to include only facts and haven't included any puff pieces as far as I can see...I've also tried basing it on approved articles from our industry. You mentioned that Services and Awards was too much like PR, but 'Google' lists its services and products, and Wikipedia lists its awards. So...I kind of don't see why we can't include ours? I've tried basing our article off this one, that is also a digital company: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G/O_Digital I also can't see our 'Clients' section? do you mean just the phrase 'an Australian company that delivers digital marketing solutions to small and medium businesses, as well as businesses in New Zealand.'? Would it be better if we listed our clients like: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ogilvy_%26_Mather Let me know :) and thank you for looking over it! P.S. I'm hoping that this is where I reply to you, let me know if I'm in the wrong place :) MileenaKitana (talk) 05:41, 3 January 2017 (UTC)
Submission declined on 03. January 2017 by SwisterTwister
I've left a comment on your Articles for Creation submission, which can be viewed at Draft:Crow (Artist). Thanks! SwisterTwister talk 05:41, 3 January 2017 (UTC) Hi David. I don`t understand what you don`t like on my article. I was checking many other article in Wiki and tried to come close as much to that schematic. For example Steve Lee (singer). There is even less information on that page. Please kindly inform specific where the problem is and I will try to improve. Thanks a lot in advance. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Crowchild70 (talk • contribs) 06:14, 3 January 2017 (UTC)
Edition on Ahmad Sheibani Nia
Recently you have done an edition on Ahmad Sheibani Nia's wikipedia which there is no reason for your edition, maybe next time it's better if you use the talk page for any edition you have on this article Soheil sh (talk) 06:36, 3 January 2017 (UTC)
Vladimir Pimonov draft
Hello, I have added new sources and edited the article. Would highly appreciate it, if you could re-review it and help to improve. Regards. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.231.170.90 (talk) 09:54, 3 January 2017 (UTC)
Request on 12:12:39, 3 January 2017 for assistance on AfC submission by Mjeltsch
Hi, this concerns the notablity of the Ark Therapeutics article. I started to translate the corresponding entry in the Finnish Wikipedia fi:Ark_Therapeutics. While translating, I realized that many sources (to online publications) have disappeared during the last years. I have access to the print versions of these newspaper articles, but the online archive of the newspaper in question doesn't go back that far in time. How can one make such a source "reliable" (being in Finnish language and only a paper copy, which I cannot simply scan and put online). I will continuing to translate the Finnish version (and update the sources of the original article as much as possible). Ark was on of the first to come up with a biological drug against brain tumors. It is a bummer for those unlucky enough to get such cancers, that due to business decisions and financial trouble the concept was not be developed further. Any ideas how to develop this are appreciated.
Mjeltsch (talk) 12:12, 3 January 2017 (UTC)
12:45:29, 3 January 2017 review of submission by AumanC
Hello! I'm not sure if this will qualify the article to be published, but I added some independent sources (notable Belgian news sites) to the article. You said the article lacked "automatic inherited notability", would that be solved if I added more of these news sources (Belgian/international) that cover the company Teamleader or events such as an investment, opening of a new office, etc. ? There's also an existing Wikipedia article on "Factory Berlin" that mentions Teamleader as one of the residents that we could link to the page. Looking forward to your reply!
13:38:53, 3 January 2017 review of submission by Timbullins
- Timbullins (talk · contribs)
I am requesting a review because I am not sure how my article differs from this one - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milton_Trachtenburg
and I think the requirements should be equal. I was told I without a mainstream review I wasn't qualified to be considered an author, yet I fail to find any mainstream review for Milton Trachtenburg either. Have the requirements changed?
I have a mainstream traditionally published book in Taiwan which is in the references as well as references to editing work I did. I have referenced my blogs and websites (which clearly show the materials I have published) -- as he did. I have referenced my book (albeit the cover is in Chinese, but my name is not) -- he did.
So can anyone tell me why -- aside from the fact I am not the father of anyone in a band or grandfather of anyone else -- one is approved for wikipedia and one is not? Thanks! Timbullins
Timbullins (talk) 13:38, 3 January 2017 (UTC)
14:52:26, 3 January 2017 review of submission by Doncaballero2
Hi SwisterTwister! Happy New Year. I was curious what I need to do to make this entry notable. They're a company in my industry (video) that's quickly becoming an industry standard, and I noticed they were notable by their absence here. I've tried to take out all the PR stuff and just say who they are and who their customers are. I can take out the last paragraph if it helps. Thanks!
14:55:20, 3 January 2017 review of submission by Doncaballero2
Hi SwisterTwister! Happy New Year. I was curious what I need to do to make this entry notable. They're a company in my industry (video) that's quickly becoming an industry standard, and I noticed they were notable by their absence here. I've tried to take out all the PR stuff and just say who they are and who their customers are. I can take out the last paragraph if it helps. Thanks! Doncaballero2 (talk) 14:55, 3 January 2017 (UTC)
16:10:48, 3 January 2017 review of submission by Skire913
Thank you for your feedback on my article "Acute Cardiac Unloading." I have reviewed this article with Wikipedia volunteers, and I have made substantial changes to the language of the article to align with acceptable language consistent with an encyclopedia rather than a journal article. Every section has undergone significant revision.
There seems to be a formatting error; can you please fix it? Bearian (talk) 17:35, 3 January 2017 (UTC)
Request on 18:48:26, 3 January 2017 for assistance on AfC submission by Thekatherinedonohue
Hello. Could you please provide your opinion on the subject matter and references for the Brian Cury page? If more references, like the NY Post article, are provided, would the article be considered notable? If not, what would be considered a stronger reference? Perhaps, I'm just not linking to the best resources. Thank you in advance.
Thekatherinedonohue (talk) 18:48, 3 January 2017 (UTC)
Cell Phone Bikini
How was removing this page, a single record from a twelve-album series, constructive in any way? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sidewalkfins87 (talk • contribs) 20:19, 3 January 2017 (UTC)
20:26:27, 3 January 2017 review of submission by Angela001
I request a re-review because my article meets the notability status.
Firstly,He is an emerging actor that has been featured in Channel News 3[1] which is an independent source.
His album is on google play [[ https://play.google.com/store/music/artist?id=Ahl5x2ywz6vdqnky7t5xdzrgvu4%7Cstore]] This is a press release about him.[2] Here's another interview on his project as an activist please,All these are not trivial.please, I will like this page be reviewed and accepted.Thanks
References
- ^ wilson, Angela001. "pop-rb-and-soul-singer-marcellino-releases-debut-album". News Channel 3. News Channel 3. Retrieved 3 January 2017.
{{cite web}}: CS1 maint: numeric names: authors list (link) - ^ wilson, Angela001. "emerging-rb-artist-releases-captivating-new-album". tate music. tate publishing news. Retrieved 3 January 2017.
{{cite web}}: CS1 maint: numeric names: authors list (link)
Revised entry for Min-on Concert Association has been re-submitted.
I provided more independent sources and shortened it.Stgrlee16 (talk) 19:03, 5 January 2017 (UTC)
Request on 21:19:32, 5 January 2017 for assistance on AfC submission by Ajurisic
Main argument for declination of my Wikipedia article on Jovan Golić: “The submission is not adequately supported by reliable sources.”
Questions: Does this mean that the quoted sources are not reliable or that the given reliable sources are not adequately cited? Which given sources are not reliable and why? What is wrong with the rationale given below? What should be improved?
Rationale: In essence, Jovan Golić is being proposed for inclusion in Wikipedia:
(1) for his world-recognized contributions to cryptography, most notably in the area of widely used stream ciphers, which are covered by several articles in Wikipedia and where he is known as a world leading expert, and
(2) for his prominent role as the Action Line Leader for Privacy, Security & Trust in the European Institute of Innovation and Technology (EIT), where EIT is already covered by an article in Wikipedia.
Item (1) is formulated by three statements:
“He introduced many cryptanalytic methods for stream ciphers…”,
“He pioneered cryptanalytic attacks on many widely-used stream ciphers…”, and
“He is known for his work on…”.
The statements are supported by:
(i) wikilinks where his work has been referred to (A5/1, RC4, Bluetooth, MUGI, time-memory tradeoff),
(ii) selected publications of Jovan Golić in reputable international peer-reviewed journals and conference proceedings,
(iii) two independent peer-reviewed publications referring to his work on RC4,
(iv) citation reports by Google Scholar and Semantic Scholar, and
(v) DBLP publications list.
All these sources appear to be independent, objective, verifiable, and hence reliable. More precisely, the used formulations “many cryptanalytic methods” and “pioneering cryptanalytic attacks” are undoubtedly supported by selected peer-reviewed publications in premium-class journals and conference proceedings and citations of these publications. In particular, please note that his prominent publications on stream ciphers A5/1 and RC4 presented at EUROCRYPT 1997 contain first published cryptanalysis of these widely used stream ciphers.
Item (2) is supported by an announcement on the EIT Digital weblink and one external weblink, which are certainly verifiable and thus reliable.
Please help!
Ajurisic (talk) 21:19, 5 January 2017 (UTC)
01:08:58, 6 January 2017 review of submission by Jacopobelbo1234
Hello--
Thank you for taking your time for a better entry. I just wanted to follow up on few issues:
- As you may see in my latest updates to the Sar entry, Mr. Sar meets Wikipedia's novelty criteria in many aspects.
- Academically:
- Sar acted as an international advisor to the American Psychiatric Association's drafting of the fifth version of the most influential psychiatric diagnosis manual, DSM-5, in which he significantly contributed to the introduction and modern definition of dissociative disorders;
- Received more than 4000 citations (see Google scholar),
- Sar is 105th most impactful scientist in Turkey as per 2015
- Acted as editor in peer reviewed American, Turkish, and international psychiatry and trauma studies journals
- Popular newspapers, magazines: As seen in updated citations, he has been interviewed and quoted in numerous outlets over the last decade(in Turkish, English, Dutch etc)
- On wikipedia: When writing the very important Wiki entry regarding Dissociative Identity Disorders, third party editors have cited Professor Sar's articles 6 times in the relevant Wiki page.
- Comparing with Ooher similar entries:
In comparison to other entries, it is clear that Professor Sar should meet the notability standards. See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eli_Somer , https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G%C3%A9rard_Lopez_(psychiatrist). Especially the second entry is remarkable, as the entry regarding the relevant psychiatrist basically uses as the only outside source an article co-authored by Professor Sar to demonstrate the relevant psychiatrist's notability in the relevant field.
I believe these matters, when taken in consideration, should establish Professor Sar's notability without any doubt. I am otherwise happy to assist you in updating the article in other ways that you may deem appropriate.
Best.
05:44:17, 6 January 2017 review of submission by Kangelone
Hi SwisterTwister, I appreciate you taking the time to review and comment on my submission. However, I was referencing the wikipedia page for Dandenong Market when putting together my page and thought that they ran along a similar line. Are you looking for specific references (should I remove the links from the text and add them under references?)?
Much appreciated, kathy
Understood :) thanks SwisterTwister! i'll get busy!
Thanks David for your help! I have worked to the improve the page as per your suggestions and comments, and have resubmitted it for your review. -Grapefruit Grapefruitpeas12 (talk) 09:16, 6 January 2017 (UTC)
09:32:13, 6 January 2017 review of submission by Kangelone
Hello again SwisterTwister, I have had another go and included independent news links. Do I need to resubmit again for review? Cheers, Kathy
Paul Godfey DJ/Producer Draft Rejected
Hi SwisterTwister, you recently rejected my draft page due to referencing issues. I'm not sure why these references aren't adequate and it would be really helpful if you could explain why they don't show notability and perhaps suggest an alternative? You also say everything else is not satisfying the applicable standards. This is really vague and doesn't help me improve my article. Any feedback you can give would be very much appreciated. Samfov (talk) 12:26, 6 January 2017 (UTC)
PROJECT in abox Draft Rejected
Hi, could you please explain to me how this draft page differs from all the other draft pages included in the project management software comparison? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_project_management_software in fact the page was modelled on this page which is an entry in the list: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sciforma the piece I wrote is equally grey and non fluffed and contains very similar refernces. i.e. from other websites, reviews and existing customers. Please explain how these differ and what is requried for a page of this type to be provided? ThanksMalcwest (talk) 17:50, 6 January 2017 (UTC)
Request on 20:49:34, 6 January 2017 for assistance on AfC submission by 2602:301:77E9:1600:3DB0:D128:C8D1:9D98
2602:301:77E9:1600:3DB0:D128:C8D1:9D98 (talk) 20:49, 6 January 2017 (UTC)
Is the International Movie Database a noteable source? That is shown as an external link. 2602:301:77E9:1600:3DB0:D128:C8D1:9D98 (talk) 20:49, 6 January 2017 (UTC)
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Request on 21:12:55, 7 January 2017 for assistance on AfC submission by Jmor54
Jmor54 (talk) 21:12, 7 January 2017 (UTC) Hi SwisterTwister,
I have added more to the article since last visit. I have also reviewed Wikipedia's "guidelines on the notability of music-related topics" in regards to the band I submitted a page for Mile (band). In Wikipedia's own guidelines it states: "may be notable if they meet at least ONE of the following criteria:"
Here are the criteria I am submitting under:
"1.Has been the subject of multiple, non-trivial, published works appearing in sources that are reliable, not self-published, and are independent of the musician or ensemble itself"
I believe I have provided MULTIPLE, as stated, non trivial published works that are reliable, not self published and independent of the musician.
"5. Has released two or more albums on a major record label or on one of the more important indie labels (i.e., an independent label with a history of more than a few years, and with a roster of performers, many of whom are independently notable).
Noel Hartough released music on Aware Records (as well as Deep South Records). Aware is on Wikipedia as a very notable indie with a roster of performers who are independently notable (including John Mayer, Train, Five For Fighting, Mat Kearney and Guster), and then his band Mile was signed to the major label "Columbia Records" and released music there, which went to Modern rock radio nationally in the USA and Canada. Also, the guitarist and bassist of Mile had a top 10 hit on Atlantic Records (major label), and released music there, prior to joining.
"6.Is an ensemble that contains two or more independently notable musicians".
As stated, Noel Hartough himself was notable for his work on Aware and Columbia, as were the guitarist and bassist of the band, as they had come from another big major label band (Atlantic Records) and had scored a top ten hit just months prior to joining Hartough and signing with Columbia.
"10.Has performed music for a work of media that is notable, e.g., a theme for a network television show, performance in a television show or notable film, inclusion on a notable compilation album, etc."
The band Mile had the song "Perfect Ending" featured in the notable film Saving Silverman, which was a Hollywood film released nationally starring Jack Black and Jason Biggs, and were ALSO included on that films official soundtrack (compilation album).
"11.Has been placed in rotation nationally by a major radio or music television network."
Mile was in rotation nationally AND internationally, both the USA and Canada, on rock radio. AS WELL AS having their music video in rotation on BOTH the MTV networks AND Much Music Canada
"Resources": The music the band created is also found on both the Freedb and Allmusic search engines which Wikipedia has listed under "Resources".
I believe that I meet MORE than ONE (which is what is required per Wikipedia's own rules that I have seen) of the required criteria as listed in Wikipedia's "Notability of music related topics."
I understand that you don't want people coming on here posting their buddies back yard band, or spamming up the place, 100%.
I've looked through and seen some of the things that people have submitted which have not been approved which CLEARLY are not noteworthy.
But I submit that a band that is comprised of members with previous history on notable indie labels and other major labels, that has signed to a major label, been placed on mainstream rock radio in both the USA and Canada, received national press coverage, has a music video on both MTV and Much Music Canada, is featured in a major film release with big name actors (a hit film), as well as the the corresponding film's soundtrack, and is out on tour with other very notable signed rock bands (Creed, Nickelback, 3 Doors down) is NOT a backyard band, or someone trying to spam Wikipedia, but is indeed notable.
I GREATLY appreciate your time on all of this. Thank you, and I look forward to hearing from you.
JMor54 Jmor54 (talk) 21:12, 7 January 2017 (UTC)
Jmor54 (talk) 21:12, 7 January 2017 (UTC)
22:04:47, 7 January 2017 review of submission by David Peter Miles
Hi,
I just wanted to know what more i need to do for this page to be accepted. I made the changes that were requested in the last draft. Should I reference more links or expand the content?I am sorry for these questions as this is my first time submitting a page on Wikipedia and am not sure of the process.
Thanks.
22:52:27, 7 January 2017 review of submission by Loopsditto
- Loopsditto (talk · contribs)
Hey! Thanks for taking the time to review the page.
I am hoping to get this page up and running- the record label has been in existence for 5 years, and has garnered tons of reviews for the music, specifically including many 'best of' year-end nominations for its records in significant places like Downbeat Magazine, etc.
It seems notable that the label exists and grows considering the changing landscape of music consumption. New Atlantis is at least as significant as any of the other smaller independent record labels featured on the site- pages for Northern Spy Records, Eremite Records, etc, come to mind.
While I understand there may not be inherited notability simply by associating with existing artists- in the case of a record label, I'd have to disagree- the whole nature and reputation of a label is determined by the notability of its roster.
23:52:19, 7 January 2017 review of submission by Bigbenwalrus
- Bigbenwalrus (talk · contribs)
Bernstein is not an author. How can I show his notability other than show how he is mentioned in books about the fields and topics he commentates on and how his ideas have influenced others? (Thanks for reviewing so quickly) Edit: He is also notable for the strange 'Cult of Bernstein' as it mentions in the introduction.
03:38:36, 8 January 2017 review of submission by 75.75.196.84
- 75.75.196.84 (talk · contribs)
I copied the MSU reference that showsthat Dr. Edwards is a Distinguished Professor from the end of the first sentence to right after the words "Distinguished Professor." It is on the MSU "University-Community Senior Fellows" website. I also found another MSU article that lists her as a distinguished professor and included that after the title of "distinguished professor." Finally, I included the citations (that I also had later in the article) to support her national and international recognition for her family literacy programs in the 2nd paragraph to further establish her notability more clearly. Thanks.
Draft
I removed Facebook and fan pages from the references. I believe it is overzealous to overlook the other 16 references here. Billboard, Oxygen, Uproxx, and Complex are all major media publications and detail the subject in depth. He fits criterias 1 and 10 as a musician for WP:MUSICBIOHennygang (talk) 06:14, 8 January 2017 (UTC)85.144.161.238 (talk) 10:48, 8 January 2017 (UTC)
Hello. First of all, thank you for taking the time to review the article (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Amsterdam_Metalfest). It has been declined due to "lack of notable sources" - I wonder, however, in how far a non-scientific subject like music/bands/events can ever have sources which are notable enough to match your criteria. In the industry this is an up and coming event, I have done research and have copied/been inspired by other festival pages which have less (notable) references than this one. Now you have suggested the page as 'miscellaneous' and it's considered for deletion. I humbly object! References are a thesis, interviews, third-party informative websites. As a writer/journalist I am aware of the necessity of reliable sources, and I second that emotion. I do think, however, your critique in this case is a bit harsh. I am wondering what needs to be done the article to be accepted. Cheers.85.144.161.238 (talk) 10:48, 8 January 2017 (UTC)
16:39:41, 8 January 2017 review of submission by Nishant Kharel
21:05:37, 8 January 2017 review of submission by Cpsarason
Hi there! Thanks so much for the speedy review. I am uncertain how many sources are required for notability here, as book reviews for Rosenbaum's are not as notable as the news articles and primary materials related to his community organizing work, which are in fact much more substantive (and, since his book has not yet made it to press, are actually around, although they will be shortly). Any suggestions on how notability might be documented in a better way here?
Thanks! Christian
Draft Ivan Polyakov
Hi, SwisterTwister! Thank you for watching my draft. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Ivan_Polyakov You mentioned that it's simply a business PR listing. I obviously can't understand why it is so. This article is a translation of the article in Russian segment - https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%9F%D0%BE%D0%BB%D1%8F%D0%BA%D0%BE%D0%B2,_%D0%98%D0%B2%D0%B0%D0%BD_%D0%92%D0%B8%D0%BA%D1%82%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%BE%D0%B2%D0%B8%D1%87 I will highly appreciate your advise on how it can be improved as from my point of view the sources are reliable (as they are considered so in russian version) and "find sources" also gives enough links, and amount of public (non-commercial) activity and awards (gratitudes) from high ranked persons also shows the fact that ther person is recognized by other people. References are also done to the correct and reliable sources, e.g. official websites of The government of the Russian Federation, Chamber of Commerce and Industry of the Russian Federation, the Russian Orthodox Church, etc. I understand that references are in Russian, but it is mentioned in each reference. Or it should be done in other manner?
Best regards, Ivp.office (talk) 22:19, 8 January 2017 (UTC)
22:55:02, 8 January 2017 review of submission by 14aaa
Is this getting better?
Request on 06:21:38, 9 January 2017 for assistance on AfC submission by Penuliswiki39
Hi and thank you for reviewing my article.
I would like to know more about what you meant by "no automatic inherited notability". Chong Ket Pen in my country is a really notable person. His company does the pretty much all the roadworks and maintenance. Furthermore, he has does A LOT of philanthropic contributions (not listed on wikipedia yet) and one of it is that he is working on building affordable homes for the people in my country. He has been bestowed the title of "Dato Sri" which is the highest title conferred by our Malaysian ruler on the most deserving recipients who have contributed greatly to the nation or state, see: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malay_styles_and_titles#Dato.27_Sri
I've read through wikipedia's guidelines on the notability of people and I honestly think Chong Ket Pen meets the requirement unlike this guy Tey Por Yee who is just a regular Malaysian businessmen or this guy Mohd Nazifuddin Najib who is nothing but our Prime Minister's son. I don't know how their wikipedia article is published but not mine on Chong Ket Pen.
As for my sources, a lot of it is linked back to Protasco Berhad, doesn't that count as a reliable source? It's a public listed company and they are indeed required by law to declare and announce everything they do and have done for public knowledge.
I'd really love to know how I can improve this article to ensure it gets approved. Appreciate the help.
Thanks!
Penuliswiki39 (talk) 06:21, 9 January 2017 (UTC)
Rishi Raj Singh Page
this is regarding Rishi Raj Singh Page. I saw your comment . Could you please wait at least a week before you propose for delete. I am fetching more details of him and its a article more people search for. You might not know him better . Appreciate your patience.
Draft of Scott Neeson page
Thanks for assisting with getting this right. The previous Scott Neeson page was deleted for self-promotion, so I have attempted to strip this back and make it objective - I've possibly stripped out too much.
Re. notability - rather than solely Scott Neeson's position in 20th Century Fox, I believe that it is his transition from top Hollywood executive responsible for some of the largest films in history, to NGO founder working in a Cambodian slum that makes him notable, as per Wikipedia's notability guideline that a person "should be "worthy of notice"[1] or "note"[2] – that is, "remarkable"[2] or "significant, interesting, or unusual enough to deserve attention or to be recorded"[1] within Wikipedia as a written account of that person's life". This transition has been covered extensively by reputable independent secondary sources including the Wall Street Journal, Variety, and People Magazine, all of whom have focused on his unique circumstances.
I believe Scott Neeson also qualifies under the Additional Criteria - "The person has received a well-known and significant award or honor, or has been nominated for one several times."
I welcome some guidance on further information that should be added - the majority available focuses on Scott Neeson's transition rather than successful prior career.
Thanks again for your help :)
CallumLow (talk) 08:41, 9 January 2017 (UTC)
11:19:52, 9 January 2017 review of submission by Peter Seligman
Hi - I agree that I didn't include verifiable data. However I have many patents I can reference. I didn't find a template for those. I also had trouble editing one after insertion. I don't agree that this company could have this on its website. It ceased to exist in the 80s. This is history rather than a plug. I suppose the main thing is that the soldering iron became ubiquitous and 50 years after the company disappeared the iron is still in use everywhere. Should the entry be titled "Scope Soldering Iron"? Peter Seligman (talk) 11:19, 9 January 2017 (UTC) Peter
Westmount Charter School AfD close
Hi. I note that you closed Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Westmount Charter School with a comment about "the clear consensus we keep any K-12 school regardless of the sourcing concerns". Can I ask where you got the idea that there is consensus to keep secondary schools even if there are concerns about sourcing? WP:SCHOOLOUTCOMES is often invoked, but it makes clear that independent sources are necessary. Cordless Larry (talk) 13:05, 9 January 2017 (UTC)
Brian Juden Page
Hello David, Thank you for accepting my article on Brian Juden and for making some minor changes. BwanaHewa (talk) 16:08, 9 January 2017 (UTC)
Unsigned MfD nominations
Please sign your miscellany for deletion nominations. Otherwise, the managing bot mislists them in the old business section under a clearly erroneous date (i.e. January 1, 1970), making work for others to cleanup. I have fixed many of them myself (e.g. Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Draft:Josh Bogert and Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/User:GleneaglesKL/sandbox today alone), and I know CambridgeBayWeather has fixed some as well (e.g. Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Draft:Kirpa Singh Dutt). Best Regards, — Godsy (TALKCONT) 19:54, 9 January 2017 (UTC)
Comments to latest edits to Paul Bright page: You have requested major book reviews for works by Paul Bright. While few picture books get reviews in the national press, Paul’s latest publication ‘The Best Bear in All the World’ (he was one of four authors) received coverage in The Daily Telegraph, The Guardian, The Daily Mail, The New York Times, Prospect Magazine, The Bookseller and many other national and international publications. I have added some of these as references, but obviously not all. One reason for wanting to create a Wikipedia page for Paul Bright is to remove ambiguity following the publicity around ‘The Best Bear …’. Many articles and web searches erroneously link to the Wikipedia page of another Paul Bright, an American producer of films, mainly of a homosexual nature. It is much easier to correct these erroneous links if there is a correct Wikipedia article to link to. I hope you can now give your approval to this article. Thank you. MKIJFry (talk) 20:44, 9 January 2017 (UTC)
00:24:29, 10 January 2017 review of submission by Powderday
Dear reviewer, I changed some of the references to include directly some major and notable written sources. Can you please review the draft? Kind greetings!
Powderday (talk) 20:20, 11 January 2017 (UTC)
Thanks for the review! Can you please elaborate?
As you can see, there are numerous links to the TPC website (in links on the draft). I hereby provide 7 references (some in depth) from third party media sources and a written publication. Can you please elaborate on what you feel is wrong with these links (one by one, please)?
In my opinion these links show that: -TPC is known internationally, and even had articles translated directly ino two other languages (more translated articles can be provided) on blogs and news sites. -the site is referenced by mainstream sources, and mentioned as an inspiration by well known figures (that do have their own wiki page) -its artwork (because it is mainly a visual arts collective) is used in textbooks and articles
1. https://deutsch.rt.com/inland/43173-trump-today-us-medienplattform-breitbart/ 2. http://web.archive.org/web/20140803114111/http://rln.fm/arhiv/politics/foreigner/1474-pamyatnik-besplatnomu-syru.html 3. https://euroislam.pl/search/cube 4. https://web.archive.org/web/20120118145225/http://www.canada.com/theprovince/news/editorial/story.html?id=47798a07-e084-4ef3-8140-f832d4a18d10 5. http://web.archive.org/web/20130527142118/http://communities.washingtontimes.com/neighborhood/peoples-communities-cube/ 6. https://snob.ru/magazine/entry/3692 7. https://philosophynow.org/issues/101/The_Righteous_Mind_by_Jonathan_Haidt
I understand concerns about political activism on wikipedia, and maybe the original website was too much of a 'commercial', but I think blocking sites like TPC does no credit to the "encyclopedic" character of Wikipedia. The website has been edited and provides unbiased information.
A visual satire blog with 45000 facebook likes can hardly be discarded as an insignificant upstart. This is not the Onion, but then again: it is not because an art collective does not sell to the Guggenheim that it should not be mentioned in an encyclopedia, right?
Another small (Flemish) satirical publication I know, is far less known than TPC and still has a wiki page. https://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/%27t_Scheldt Example of a very well known German satirical publication, whose wiki page does not provide better "links" than the TPC entry (in my humble opinion): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Titanic_(magazine).
I await your response with much interest,
Greetings
Tank you for your response!
My own response:
Quality of reference publications: 'notable", "independent", "major ones"
Some of them are simply blogs as you rightly say.
Some of them are well known media outlets and independent third parties: RT Deutsch, Washington Times. One of them is a book with many reviews on Amazon, Goodreads, etc. :"The Righteous Mind: Why Good People Are Divided by Politics and Religion". Have you read this book? Have you verified the correspondence between the author of this book and the owner of the TPC website? One more in depth article (in Russian: do you speak Russian? Have you verified its content?) is in a high quality non-partisan Russian publication: Сноб (журнал).
Can you elaborate on why the above mentioned sources are not independent or notable? Your comments on the quality of these sources are rather "vague". I sent you 7 examples on your talk page with the request to elaborate on each and every one of them, yet you have not done so. In this way, we will not be able to reach an agreement. Your statement of "non notable" should become falsifiable: what type of reference, in this context of visual satire, would be "notable" enough for you?
If these sources remain, in your opinion "not notable", will you proceed to delete the entry of the washington times, RT deutsch from Wikipedia (to name a few)?
Listed sources are simply announcements, interviews, listings, mentions and blogs
I will give a description of the listed sources below (many, many more can be provided, I just handpicked a few to help you point out where you feel they are not correct):
1. https://deutsch.rt.com/inland/43173-trump-today-us-medienplattform-breitbart/
Mentioned as part of the new right-wing "alternative media".
Article about the assistance (with visual Art) of the TPC community and it creator in the Norman mayorial campaign (Oklahoma).
3. https://euroislam.pl/search/cube
One of many polish translations of articles on the cube, showing its international notability.
Syndicated columnist bases an article on the TPC website. The old link is dead, so only the archive antry is provided (jpegs/pdf's of the old site can be provided if necessary).
Once more, an old web archive, but this link shows that the TPC website (and its creator) once maintained an informal column on the online versoin of the washington times (major, independent news source).
6. https://snob.ru/magazine/entry/3692
Printed magazine (50.000 copies) from Russia. The entry is old, admitted, but that should be no problem. It's a review of the website essentially calling it a succesful startup.
7. https://philosophynow.org/issues/101/The_Righteous_Mind_by_Jonathan_Haidt
Acclaimed book. The TPC owner Atbashian (and the TPC contributors) helped create artwork for it.
8. The september 2013 issue of the NRA magazine (first freedom) featured a printed version of a TPC article created by one of its contributors (Ivan Betinov). This magazine has a 4.000.000 (!!!) copy reach.
Once more, please elaborate on the above sources, some of whom are important references or at least acknowledgments of the notability of the TPC website in the alternative media.
Many, many more links will be provided on demand.
Regardging your comment; "Well, to specify, the Blogspot ones are the blogs, and then there are a few instances where their own website is cited; overall, there's still not enough major independent news from major publications to add the needed substance."
1. The sentence "there are a few instances where their own website is cited": whose website? Cited by whom? When? To what sources does this relate?
2. there's still not enough major independent news from major publications to add the needed substance. Your comment did not go into details. Why is the Washington Times, the Washington Posts, RT Deutsch etc... no major independent source? Please elaborate, as requested. By using vague terminology like you do, anybody can delete any page based on his/her own preferences.
Please elaborate.
Powderday (talk) 22:08, 10 January 2017 (UTC)
Powderday (talk) 13:12, 10 January 2017 (UTC)
— Preceding unsigned comment added by Powderday (talk • contribs) 07:29, 10 January 2017 (UTC)
Thanks again for the swift review. We clearly differ in opinion but I appreciate your efforts. I think there is a misunderstanding, so please reconsider after reading the comment below:
I quote: By "their own website": People's Cube's own website, and even if it's here to support their own website's information, that alone won't establish what notability here needs; The links I provided (I will once again provide them at the bottom of this post) doe not contain the TPC website itself. Can it be that this is a misunderstanding and you have checked the wrong links? I'm sorry if I contributed to this confusion. Please elaborate on the links I provide, if you can do that? As you will see, these links contain: written publications, third party news sites (like The Washington Times), mentions in foreign publications... Etcetera. Thanks in advance.
as for the news publications currently listed, (1) it's still not enough and (2) they are still too close as simply being news stories about the political announcements and activities. If there's additional major independent news from major news publications, there's no limit number, as long as they are still significant and in-depth. SwisterTwister talk 23:44, 10 January 2017 (UTC) 1. Not enough? Can you falsify this statement? What amount of news publications will be enough? Isn't this becoming a bit subjective? 2. News stories about ..... and activities: isn't that what it's all about? If news stories about your activities are not considered arguments pro "notability", than what are? Powderday (talk) 00:22, 11 January 2017 (UTC)
THE LIST: (as mentioned before, after reviewing and elaborating on these examples, I will gladly provide many more if necessary.)
1. https://deutsch.rt.com/inland/43173-trump-today-us-medienplattform-breitbart/
Mentioned as part of the new right-wing "alternative media".
Article about the assistance (with visual Art) of the TPC community and it creator in the Norman mayorial campaign (Oklahoma).
3. https://euroislam.pl/search/cube
One of many polish translations of articles on the cube, showing its international notability.
Syndicated columnist bases an article on the TPC website. The old link is dead, so only the archive antry is provided (jpegs/pdf's of the old site can be provided if necessary).
Once more, an old web archive, but this link shows that the TPC website (and its creator) once maintained an informal column on the online versoin of the washington times (major, independent news source).
6. https://snob.ru/magazine/entry/3692
Printed magazine (50.000 copies) from Russia. The entry is old, admitted, but that should be no problem. It's a review of the website essentially calling it a succesful startup.
7. https://philosophynow.org/issues/101/The_Righteous_Mind_by_Jonathan_Haidt
Acclaimed book. The TPC owner Atbashian (and the TPC contributors) helped create artwork for it.
8. The september 2013 issue of the NRA magazine (first freedom) featured a printed version of a TPC article created by one of its contributors (Ivan Betinov). This magazine has a 4.000.000 (!!!) copy reach. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Powderday (talk • contribs) 00:25, 11 January 2017 (UTC)
Request on 01:22:40, 10 January 2017 for assistance on AfC submission by Louise Poulton
Just wanting to show how notable Cris' career is becoming Please review the latest references added, many are independant film review sites as well as the ABC shops ad for 'Gallipoli' tv mini series- the most expensive and ambitious production ever on Australian tv, where cris' name is listed first in the 'starring' section. Also included is the cast link to 'The Legend of Ben Hall' feature film with his character, and he am listed on the Wikipedia page for the film too
Louise Poulton (talk) 01:22, 10 January 2017 (UTC)
03:15:19, 10 January 2017 review of submission by Mcintouch
Hi There! Thanks for reviewing my recent contribution. I was wondering as, you mentioned my submitted references are not "enough to satisfy standards as they are still too announcement-like". I'm just trying to understand what exactly do I need to submit. This is a retail chain with over 21 locations. Similar companies like https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/La_Colombe_Coffee_Roasters and [[1]] are not different when compared to what I've also submitted.
I'd appreciate any help you could offer.
Thank you
Archiving closed ANI threads
Hi ST, this is a reminder that when archiving closed ANI threads, it is important to wait till at least 24 hours have passed after the close, before archiving. This gives all participants and observers a chance to see the results of the thread. Because Wikipedia editors live all around the world, in various timezones, and with various sleep, work, and log-in schedules, 24 hours is necessary to give everyone a chance to log on and view the close. The best way to avoid archiving threads too quickly is to Google utc time, subtract one day from that, and then don't archive any thread that was closed any later than that. Thanks. Softlavender (talk) 06:20, 10 January 2017 (UTC)
Furio De Monaco
Hi SwisterTwister, can you please reopen the above. I was half asleep, or on automatic when I put the Speedy Keep in. Although I now think he is notable, the full seven days hadn't passed, and consensus hasn't been reached. I can't fault you on the speed of closing, fast action is needed to reduce the backlog of new page review. scope_creep (talk) 11:45, 10 January 2017 (UTC)
About Rejection of Sustainable Manufacturing draft
Hi David,
thanks for your comments on the Sustainable Manufacturing draft. I agree that the concept of sustainable manufacturing could be partially overlapped with the "Sustainable Design" concept. The same entry could be added as an example, similarly to the the case of sustainable agriculture. However ,in my opinion, it could be useful adding a specific new entry due to the following points:
- The Sustainable Manufacturing is related to "making" physical objects rather than "design" sustainable products
- The Sustainable Manufacturing is a very wide concept that involves specific constrains at industry level
- The Sustainable Manufacturing is already a policy and a research objective for which wikipedia do not provide mention
- The previous examples of sustainable product design are mainly devoted to the simple design process while sustainable manufacturing mainly involves infrastructure and mechanism to change current production processes, in such a sense the Sustainable Manufacturing is an implementation process of bottom-up technologies.
Please, consider revising your choice. I would propose to add a mention to sustainable manufacturing as an example of sustainable design for production systems while I would leave the entry. I look forward your kind reply
Best regards
Carlo — Preceding unsigned comment added by CarloBrondi (talk • contribs) 11:48, 10 January 2017 (UTC)
13:58:52, 10 January 2017 review of submission by Vgaidash
Dear Sir/Madam, I have struggled to rewrite the initial deleted article and to make it look like an encyclopedia entry avoidng comparisons and self-promotion epithets. Where possible I have added the links to sources, some of them are in Russian/Ukrainian. Yes source number one is an announcemens. I should be most grateful if you could advise me what is wrong with it, since other entries such as this one featured today - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kalki_Koechlin also has announcements in it sources. Source number two to my draft is not an announcement.
May I assure you that the article cannot and is not intended as advertisement since Ukrgassydobuvayynya sells all its gas to its mother company Naftogaz - that is Ukrgasvydobuvannya has the only wholesale client! So the text does not target any clients!:)
I am writing the article about the major gas extraction company in Ukraine and as a writer I think the fact that it was rated by an independent rating agency an number one taxpair by volume of taxes paid to the country's budget. I have added the necessary link №2 in the references.
Maybe you could kindly inform me which parts of the article look in your view as advertisement? I really need your feedback and I do not have any intention of cheating the Wikipedia. I just want to create an information oriented article. Regards, Volodymyr Gaidash
Regards,
Volodymyr Gaidash
Hello
FYI --JustBerry (talk) 16:22, 10 January 2017 (UTC)
I have taken your suggestions and improved the links. Is that suitable to move forward? ZooFriend (talk) 16:25, 10 January 2017 (UTC)
Request on 20:02:06, 10 January 2017 for assistance on AfC submission by 38.98.118.210
Hi there, thank you for your help in developing my first post. I'm trying to understand what constitutes nobility. The person I'm writing about has appeared on the tv show Nashville, which was nominated for Golden Globes and Emmy awards. His reach is about 8.1 million people per month and can be heard across 63% of the U.S.A (http://compassmedianetworks.com/index.php/2017/01/04/townsquare-announces-multi-year-syndication-extension-with-compass-media-networks/). Other DJs with similar backgrounds are also featured on Wikipedia. Examples are as follows:
Lorianne Crook - Wikipedia Blair Garner - Wikipedia JoJo Wright - Wikipedia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stryker_(disc_jockey)
Thank you for your help, 38.98.118.210 (talk) 20:02, 10 January 2017 (UTC)Steven
38.98.118.210 (talk) 20:02, 10 January 2017 (UTC)
draft approval
Hello i have this draft https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Soo_Yeon_Lee
There are references from USATT, NY times and many many more, but it still dont get approval. one of the comments was "The USATT, Khan, LASplash, and ITTF articles are the best here" There are references from all these suggested websites.
Furthermore,your last comment was about tennis notability. The sport is table tennis ;)
Thanks Pavloscpl (talk) 20:13, 10 January 2017 (UTC)
Felonious Munk article
I'd like to improve that article, but I'm unsure about what qualifies. There are correspondents from The Nightly Show with Larry Wilmore who have articles. What makes him different? I'm also unsure about why a theater show that was performed in multiple cities and reviewed by multiple publications doesn't qualify for "notability". I do understand the regional Emmy Award not qualifying. However, the viral youtube video series, including the various national TV appearances that followed would qualify, no? There are a number of youtube presenters present on wiki who have no other notability beyond youtube. The other question I have, as I've contributed to other articles, is what citations qualify as acceptable? A review in the Washington Post doesn't in this article, but does in others. As Munk has appeared on CNN, Fox, and Comedy Central, and those aren't considered sufficient for notability, what can i do to improve this article?
Thanks in advance! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Doobybrother1972 (talk • contribs) 22:55, 10 January 2017 (UTC)
Request on 23:41:08, 10 January 2017 for assistance on AfC submission by Chantireviews
Hello. I was trying to create an entry for our Chanticleer Authors Conference now that we have gained some notoriety. I tried to simply report the facts, not talking about pricing or early bird deals etc. I don't want to spend any more time on this if there is no point, but it does seem that pages like this are possible, example: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carolinas_Writers_Conference
I can't see much difference between that page and ours except that they list some of their faculty who are NYT best sellers. We also have NYT best sellers on our faculty but I thought that mentioning such a thing would seem like a sales pitch.
Please let me know if name dropping with a faculty list, or other changes would make a difference. Thanks
Chantireviews (talk) 23:41, 10 January 2017 (UTC)
12:06:33, 11 January 2017 review of submission by Brx8r
Hi SwisterTwister, I gather from your response that you take issue with Donnelly's career being linked closely with Penn & Teller, or Penn Jillette specifically - and a few comedians. But I assure you the sources are there for references to Donnelly specifically. I've also added a couple more sources about awards and the impact/reach Donnelly has through his podcast work - an influence I am aware is growing rapidly and foresee his inclusion here inevitable. Some of the existing sources come from major LV newspapers, Las Vegas Sun, Review Journal, and Las Vegas Weekly. This is more of a question about how to improve the article than a request for re-review at this stage. I'm by no means an expert on this subject. I more wanted to get the ball rolling as I'm sure other people would be able to provide better information than me. This has been the case for previous articles I've written which have grown infinitely better through user contributions than the stub I created. It seems things have really changed here since then though. Thank you for your time. Brx8r (talk) 12:07, 11 January 2017 (UTC)
20:01:56, 11 January 2017 review of submission by WashCapsFan
- WashCapsFan (talk · contribs)
This is my first Wiki page, so please bear with me. Not sure of the rejection was for a lack of references, or a judgment of the subject not being notable enough. If the latter, not sure how to address that. I'm a big fan of University of Virginia soccer, and Todd Hitt was a top player. Even though they changed the way assists are counted, Todd is still in the top 10 all time. If the assist mechanism wasn't changed, he'd not doubt be the all time assist leader.
In addition, Todd coached a lot of the players who went on to great soccer careers. He started the Reston Football Club, funding it with his own money, and RFC teams went on to win a large number of state and national championships. He really is an important youth soccer influence and a major UVA soccer player.
The picture that I submitted was sent to me by the University of Virginia athletic department. They love Todd Hitt there. He was a big player, and he also gave a lot to the school. You can ask them yourself.
One problem I have is finding online references, since his UVA career was so many years ago. I can probably come up with some print references, if there's a way for me to scan them and submit them.
I hope this is helpful. I'm a fan of the team and feel like Todd Hitt should have a page and should also be one of the notable UVA players.
Found this video of Coach Hitt talking to a reporter after winning the Virginia State Championship. Gives you a sense of him as a coach. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nGoVVNHbFLk
Thanks for listening. WashCapsFan (talk) 23:55, 11 January 2017 (UTC)
Request on 21:03:17, 11 January 2017 for assistance on AfC submission by Tanis604
Tanis604 (talk) 21:03, 11 January 2017 (UTC)
Hello. There are many examples of award winning broadcasters with approved Wikipedia articles. Why has this one been denied? Tanis604 (talk) 21:03, 11 January 2017 (UTC)
A kitten for you!
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Thanks for being so helpful in IRC! :)
Cwangc (talk) 21:25, 11 January 2017 (UTC)
Submission Rejection - Gordon Kipping
Hi David, You recently reviewed my article on architect Gordon Kipping and did not approve it for publication. Your reason was because it was "not satisfying our standards and policies and this still isn't far from it because it simply mirrors what would be found in his own websites and listings, something that articles are not used for here; the awards are still minor and there's never any automatic inherited notability from clients, because that would still be advertising; basically this suggests it's simply too soon in his career." This simply isn't true. He is an established and recognized person in the architecture community and has produced works that are very notable. I referenced many sources that did not come from his own website and listings, that I found independently from his own sites. He has been published numerous times and worked on many significant projects. Also there are many articles on Wikipedia about architects that are much less notable than he is. I can point them out for you if you'd like. Please let me know how I can get this article published because I think it is important information to anyone studying, practicing, or interested in Architecture. Thank you. Simme207
New Entry - Papadimitriou
I saw your recent comment on my talk page stating that the subject - Odysseas Papadimitriou - is "Only best known for the company and there's no automatic inherited notability from anything or anyone else regardless and none of this satisfies our policies." If being best known for a company disqualifies an entrepreneur from having his/her own page, then how do these pages exist: Tim Chen, Kenneth Lin (entrepreneur), Candice Galek and Elizabeth Holmes? I really don't see anything that distinguishes them from the subject of my draft.
Surfjk (talk) 23:06, 11 January 2017 (UTC)
Thanks for your feedback so far, but it seems to me that inherited notability is a moot point here. Wikipedia’s basic-notability guidelines state that: "People are presumed notable if they have received significant coverage in multiple published secondary sources that are reliable, intellectually independent of each other, and independent of the subject."
If you simply Google "Odysseas Papadimitriou," you'll see nearly 1,000 news results. For example, Time recently included him in its list of important American voices: http://time.com/collection/american-voices/. That seems like significant coverage to me. He even has a number of patents in his own name, too: https://www.google.com/search?site=&tbm=pts&source=hp&q=odysseas+papadimitriou&oq=odysseas+pap&gs_l=hp.3.0.0l3j0i10k1j0j0i22i30k1l5.1614.3435.0.4755.13.11.0.2.2.0.145.1024.8j3.11.0....0...1c.1.64.hp..0.12.936.0..35i39k1j0i131k1j0i20k1.JVdjo9YmZ2I.
Furthermore, Wikipedia’s notability guidelines conclude that: “People who meet the basic criteria may be considered notable without meeting the additional criteria.” And that leads me to believe Mr. Papadimitriou’s obvious basic notability warrants his own entry.
Surfjk (talk) 03:00, 13 January 2017 (UTC)
I really don't see how "inherited notability" fits here. Wikipedia's guidelines state that, "An organization may be notable, but individual members (or groups of members) do not "inherit" notability due to their membership. A corporation may be notable, but its subsidiaries do not "inherit" notability from being owned by the corporation." Mr. Papadimitriou is neither a member nor a subsidiary of his company; he is the founder and CEO. How can you inherit notability from something that you predated and, in fact, created? For example, does Bill Harley fail to qualify simply because most people associate "Harley" with the motorcycle brand? Both have Wikipedia entries. Does Eduardo Saverin not qualify because he's only notable for Facebook? Both have Wikipedia entries. And is Charlie Munger undeserving of an entry because he's known for his association with Warren Buffet? Both have Wikipedia entries.
The bottom line is that Mr. Papadimitriou is notable in his own right, as evidenced by his extensive media coverage and status as a recognized expert on personal finance. If every successful entrepreneur was considered notable only because of the business he created, and every inventor was merely an extension of his invention, there would be far fewer entries on Wikipedia and we would know a lot less about the important people influencing various aspects of our daily lives.
If we can't agree on this fundamental point, I think we'll need to get a second opinion from another reviewer.
Surfjk (talk) 19:34, 13 January 2017 (UTC)
Draft: Armend Rexhepagiqi
Hello SwisterTwister. I did as you said , I added some major independent news on the page that I created for Albanian Kosovar singer Draft:Armend Rexhepagiqi. Thank you for helping me.
Jérôme Havre
Could you give Jérôme Havre a break? We're trying to recruit new editors. We're trying to look after the articles created during the meetup and PRODing them is not helpful. I'm pretty sure we can establish notability for an articst who was an artist in residence at Canada's largest art museum. Thanks. Mduvekot (talk) 03:37, 12 January 2017 (UTC)
04:42:08, 12 January 2017 review of submission by Kangelone
Hi SwisterTwister, not sure whether I am doing the right thing, but have resubmitted the article for review and hoping to get further feedback as I have added independent news links to the article. Do I need to set these up as references also?
Kindest regards, Kathy Angelone Kangelone (talk) 04:42, 12 January 2017 (UTC)
07:15:00, 12 January 2017 review of submission by Powderday
Dear reviewer, thanks for your earlier comments. I changed some of the links and updated the links to books and written sources. I think your concerns about third party notability have been resolved. Kind regards
Powderday (talk) 07:28, 12 January 2017 (UTC)
Re: Your submission at Articles for creation: Georges Vajda (January 12)
Thanks for reviewing my submission of a draft for Georges Vajda last night. I skipped over the drafting/AfC process and created the article directly now. What should happen to the old draft?
I'm not sure what happened in the draft process to result in an article that was only a single non-sensical heading. I am not familiar with the "Draft" process, as I have only created articles directly in the past. It appeared at some point that I was supposed to explain why I was reviving an old draft, but the summery comment that I input somehow became the entire article!
I believe the article I created meets the standard for relevance and notability, given that it appears on the French Wikipedia already, and that the sources cited are solid and objective. --Think Fast (talk) 15:00, 12 January 2017 (UTC)
Submission declined for Draft:Grace VanderWaal
I saw your decline of the submission for Draft:Grace VanderWaal with a summary stating that "Submission is about a person not yet shown to meet notability guidelines". It does appear that this individual already has an article at Grace VanderWaal. Am I missing something? Alansohn (talk) 16:52, 12 January 2017 (UTC)
Sausalitoarchitect (talk) 19:32, 14 January 2017 (UTC)== Submission declined for Draft: Violeta Autumn == Thanks for reviewing the Violeta Autumn page. I saw your decline of the submission for it Draft:Violeta Autumn I am continuing to edit and add more information and sources showing her notability as an architect and planner at a time when women were not accepted as architects . Of particular note is her work on rebuilding one town after World War II. She also has a lot of hidden work that she did for other architects. At what point should I resubmit? She was a notable person but a lot of her work is in print form. User:Sausalitoarchitect (talk) 10;05, 12 January 2017 (UTC)
I have done significant work to this page adding some of her notable works with reference, her notability was not just as an architect but also in government and planning developing the City of Sausalito. Would you please review again and reconsider? I have other people scanning drawings of the buildings she has done. If you accepted this page then they could add information directly. Keep in mind that this was at a time when women did not typically take credit for their work. Thank you! Sausalitoarchitect (talk) 19:32, 14 January 2017 (UTC)(Sausalitoarchitect (talk) 19:32, 14 January 2017 (UTC))
Request on 19:33:10, 12 January 2017 for assistance on AfC submission by Socrates6
Socrates6 (talk) 19:33, 12 January 2017 (UTC)
Submission rejection for Shore Capital Partners
Hi, first of all, I would like to thank you for reviewing our company's web page.
I am requesting a re-review because I believe that I have made appropriate adjustments to errors.
I deleted all PR related news and used information from news sources such as bloomberg or WSJ that conducted independent reviews on our company.
Please let me know if you find any problems. You can shoot me an email to scho@shorecp.com
Thanks
Submission rejection for Shore Capital Partners
Hi SwisterTwister, thank you so much for your input, and especially for your fast reply. I removed all business announcements and changed my sources to news that were written by journalists as lead authors. Could you be kind enough to look over it again and provide feedback? I really appreciate your help.
Thanks
Submission rejection for Shore Capital Partners
Hi SwisterTwister, thank you for your feedback once again. Sorry for disturbing you multiple times, but we're really eager to launch our page.
I think I understand the logic of your argument, but I am not a 100% clear. As a result, I simply removed all references that pointed to articles containing information regarding our company's financials, funding, etc. However, this left us with no choice but to get rid of references altogether, so I am wondering if we can launch the page as it is without any references. Since our company is relatively young, we don't have much coverage from major news publications, and it is really hard finding independent articles that don't introduce us in numbers. After all, we are known in Chicago for starting out small with personal investments from our founders and raising $112.5 from $10 million of initial investments. What can I do if I have trouble finding independent articles? Please let me know, your help much appreciated!
Aritcle: Michael Coyne, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Michael_Coyne
"Regardless of publications and names listed, still not enough for actual independent notability in Wikipedia policy and it's simply too soon"
Hi David I have cleaned up the citations for the article, at least for those available on-line the others are physical publications, if you need more please let me know. The article has been re-submitted.
Could you please explain the "it's simply too soon", Michael has been a world renown photographer to over 30 years and we probably don't need to wait until he dies before adding an article about him to Wiki.
thanks gt Gtinkler (talk) 03:07, 13 January 2017 (UTC)
Setting up an archive bot?
Hey ST! Hope you are doing well. As this talk page is quite long, I was wondering if you would like to set up an archive bot? I can do it for you if you want! --Lemongirl942 (talk) 04:47, 13 January 2017 (UTC)
- You're welcome to, yes, I've taken some of it bit by bit, but any help is welcome. SwisterTwister talk 04:48, 13 January 2017 (UTC)
- Thank you
I will set one up right now (and set it to 30 days for the moment). That way, most of the recent threads will be there, but the older ones can be easily archived. (I like the bot archiving a lot!) --Lemongirl942 (talk) 04:52, 13 January 2017 (UTC) - OK done! As the bot runs once in 24 hours, I guess it will be a few hours until the first archiving happens. But after that, it works quite well! No need to manually archive anymore. --Lemongirl942 (talk) 04:59, 13 January 2017 (UTC)
- Thank you
- You're welcome to, yes, I've taken some of it bit by bit, but any help is welcome. SwisterTwister talk 04:48, 13 January 2017 (UTC)
Request on 13:45:08, 13 January 2017 for assistance on AfC submission by Ajurisic
Hi SwisterTwister!
As for the notability of his contributions and the importance of “his field”, please consider the following facts. Cryptography plays an indispensable role in the digital world for data protection and, without it, modern data communications and storage systems and online services would be unimaginable.
In particular, RC4 has been the most widely used cipher on the Internet and A5/1 has been the mostly used cipher in mobile communications. Jovan Golic was the first to cryptanalyze these two ciphers at Eurocrypt ’97.
He was also among the first to cryptanalyze Bluetooth cipher widely used for short-range communications, at Eurocrypt 2002. He also found a weakness of the Japanese encryption standard MUGI, which together with a follow-up work caused it to be recently withdrawn. His results on nonlinear filter generators at FSE ‘96 had a deep impact on proprietary encryption systems. (And so on. ) Existing Wikipedia entries and citations clearly support these facts. In the nineties, he published in prestigious publications many influential papers significantly promoting the area of stream ciphers, which had been previously constrained mainly to proprietary and secret encryption used in the military and other similar systems.
Ajurisic (talk) 13:45, 13 January 2017 (UTC)
ku'ualoha ho'omanawanui entry
Dear SisterTwister,
Thank you for reviewing my entry. I'm interested in improving it for notability, but had a comment and a question.
It may not be obvious, but the Hawaiian Airlines Magazine is one of the major sources of journalistic reports, in terms of feature articles. In the islands, we have one major newspaper, so journalists often end up having to go to touristic venues for their more in-depth reporting. Along with Honolulu Magazine, Hawaiian Airlines Magazine is one of a handful of established venues for cultural and social reporting of major artistic, business, and literary figures. Are you not considering the specific landscapes of regional news, to evaluate reliability? Are you only looking at newspapers in major cities?
Here are the journalistic and other awards won by this magazine for reporting-- http://www.hanahou.com/pages/about.asp?PageID=2
Also, why doesn't news of an award given by the Modern Language Association--which is THE main professional organization of the English discipline--qualify as notable? If you are only looking at mainstream news, rather than academic sources, this narrows the field of information considerably. Academic sources are generally considered much more credible than corporate news sources, especially if the news is about awards selected by discipline-wide organizations that encompass professionally trained experts in the field. In the fields of writing, language, and literature, the MLA is beyond credible, as an organization and a source. It has over 25,000 members in 100 countries across the world. Its awards are highly competitive and viewed as professionally valid. Wikipedia has often included information on community-based awards, such as the science fiction and fantasy community's Nebulas and Hugos, so why not awards by a professional organization whose membership includes basically all English teachers and English professors in the globe?
Here is information on the scope of the MLA-- https://www.mla.org/About-Us/About-the-MLA
I look forward to hearing from you, and thank you in advance for your help.
Sincerely, SpecFicGurl (talk) 17:44, 13 January 2017 (UTC)'SpecFicGurl
Request on 19:13:20, 13 January 2017 for assistance on AfC submission by Internetgal
- Internetgal (talk · contribs)
I’m looking for clarification on the comments you made on a Wikipedia page I submitted. My submission was rejected by you because of the references noted in the article and you said the author was not notable. The author has published 9 books, received a COVR Award, received an IPPY award, and had two reviews for books in Publisher's Weekly. She also has a #1 new release on Amazon.com.
Here’s a link to my draft: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Tess_Whitehurst.
Here are some additional links that I hope will provide more information on way this author is notable.
The Magic of Flowers Oracle deck award nomination: http://internationaltarotfoundation.com/2015-carta-award-nominees/
IPPY Award (see bronze in #59) http://www.independentpublisher.com/article.php?page=1653
Publisher's Weekly Magical Fashionista review noted on BarnesAndNoble.com (the review on the PW site is for subscribers only) http://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/magical-fashionista-tess-whitehurst/1114856282#productInfoTabs
The Magic of Trees is #1 New Release on Amazon.com: https://www.amazon.com/Magic-Trees-Sacred-Metaphysical-Properties/dp/073874803X/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1484325930&sr=8-1&keywords=magic+of+trees
Publisher’s Weekly review of The Magic of Trees: http://www.publishersweekly.com/978-0-7387-4803-0
I modeled my page after two of her peers in this field. Here are links to their pages: Christopher Penczak https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christopher_Penczak and Scott Cunningham https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scott_Cunningham. She’s also referenced in the following Wikipedia articles: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nag_Champa, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zsuzsanna_Budapest Internetgal (talk) 19:13, 13 January 2017 (UTC)
Request on 19:31:32, 13 January 2017 for assistance on AfC submission by Curacao Passion
Hi SwisterTwister,
Thanks for replying. Your answer, unfortunately, has not answered my question: What is the difference in notability between Chanelle de Lau and the ladies of the countries (for which an entry was approved) that appear under the following link (under the heading contestants)?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miss_Universe_2016
Thanks in advance for your specific answer on this puzzling matter indeed.
Best, Curacao Passion
Curacao Passion (talk) 19:31, 13 January 2017 (UTC)
20:34:00, 13 January 2017 review of submission by The happygirlie
What else do you suggest i add to make my draft accepted as i have painstakingly re-edited over and over again and strictly following the Wikipedia policies to the best of my knowledge
The happygirlie (talk) 20:34, 13 January 2017 (UTC)
20:34:36, 13 January 2017 review of submission by The happygirlie
What else do you suggest i add to make my draft accepted as i have painstakingly re-edited over and over again and strictly following the Wikipedia policies to the best of my knowledge
The happygirlie (talk) 20:34, 13 January 2017 (UTC)
Request on 20:49:32, 13 January 2017 for assistance on AfC submission by Mbranch06
Hi, this is in regards to the recent page I tried to create for LikeFolio, an investing app/service. I received notes about the companies notability. I'm not quite sure I understand why it is not considered notable? It's had press on various mainstream media (Yahoo Finance, Fox News, Forbes, it's data is used inside of the TD Ameritrade platform, one of the largest financial companies in the world. It's won awards from well recognized financial technology companies, including CNN Money, and it's data is being used in a Georgetown University's McDonough School of Busines study). I just want to make sure I understand what exactly is holding it back from being published. Thanks in advance for your guidance/help.
Mbranch06 (talk) 20:49, 13 January 2017 (UTC)
Request on 21:22:50, 13 January 2017 for assistance on AfC submission by OfficialRecurrence
There aren't any major reviews because it has not been released yet. The release date of the album was just announced today so I added what I could to get the page started.
OfficialRecurrence (talk) 21:22, 13 January 2017 (UTC)
22:59:52, 13 January 2017 review of submission by 24.84.20.114
- 24.84.20.114 (talk · contribs)
Kashoo is an accounting software company, much like https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KashFlow and https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FreeAgent. Both those software companies were able to create Wiki pages with questionable "reliable" sources/referrals. Furthermore, there is a page here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_accounting_software where Kashoo should be listed (and linked to appropriate Kashoo page) however it has been removed. This provides an unfair advantage to accounting software competitors.
Any update on our page getting added? Again, Kashoo is Accounting Software, and should be represented on this document: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_accounting_software as these are all direct competitors providing Accounting Software. Jan 16, 2017 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2001:569:7810:1B00:653C:8BE6:6442:C1BC (talk) 18:32, 16 January 2017 (UTC)
Request on 01:53:01, 14 January 2017 for assistance on AfC submission by AugustF
I added four references to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Mark_Panick and I am still seeing "Submission declined." I have done ample research on the subject (including an in-person interview) so please advise me as to what I need to do to better my chances of a successful submission.≈≈≈≈
AugustF (talk) 01:53, 14 January 2017 (UTC)
Draft:Jiří Walker Procházka
Dear SwisterTwister, I think I have a problem with the fact that the 3 cited works on Czech SF are published and recognized as reliable only here in Czech Republic. One of them was written by O. Neff, who is recognised in en-wikipedia. But this book is in Czech too. You see, JWP writes SF in Czech and most info on him is in Czech again. So people in the English SF world scarsely know of him. I wanted to get some short info in the English speaking version of Wikipedia to break this vicious circle. I created a stub and was gradually forced to expand it. Now I got to the dead end, if you have no advice for me in this, I promise to quit in a month or so. I reckon that the info on JWP will find his way through personal contacts in the end. Ondřej Neff, Josef Nesvadba, Vilma Kadlečková, Miroslav Žamboch, Jaroslav Velinský, Ludvík Souček they all "made it" on similar terms. Maybe the problem is some trivia in my approach and it can be cured. Looking forward to your reply... Erempari (talk) 16:29, 14 January 2017 (UTC)
19:45:28, 14 January 2017 review of submission by 98.245.81.226
Hello SwisterTwister, Could you please expand on your comment: "Comment: What this specifically needs is major book reviews because the current sources noticeably consist of only announcements, listings, blogs and mentions. SwisterTwister talk 22:15, 13 January 2017 (UTC)"?
There are two book reviews included in the article for Rowland Saifi; two interviews of Rowland Saifi by well-known, internationally-circulated newspapers; reviews of an exhibition that Rowland Saifi's work is included in, with specific reference to his work, which is a higher tier review.
Also, could you please explain why the article for Emily Pettit was accepted in light of your comments?
I can remove the "Work" section from the Rowland Saifi article if that helps. I can also add his profile from the Poets&Writers Directory, and note that he has been asked to sit on the judge's panel for Newfound Journal's prose prize, two years in a row. Any suggestions would be helpful. Thanks!98.245.81.226 (talk) 19:45, 14 January 2017 (UTC)
20:13:58, 14 January 2017 review of submission by 98.245.81.226
Hi SwisterTwister,
Thank you for your response!
Could you please let me know what would be the specific number of reviews you need? And, which publications you would consider major?
Could you also please let me know why the following article was approved, as it contains reference to a single, 1-paragraph long book review, and a few interviews: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emily_Pettit. Your response would allow me to understand the qualitative decisions you are making. If I compare the articles myself, I am unclear why the short review on the Huffington Post, largely a news aggregator, would be seen as a more reputable review than a focus one by a well-known artist (Mary Berger) in a well-known literary publication (Your Impossible Voice). Is the decision based on circulation numbers?
RE: Comment: Interviews aren't the focused actual reviews we need, and even then, the current number of reviews would not be enough. SwisterTwister talk 19:55, 14 January 2017 (UTC)
Comment: What this specifically needs is major book reviews because the current sources noticeably consist of only announcements, listings, blogs and mentions. SwisterTwister talk 22:15, 13 January 2017 (UTC) Thank you for your help!98.245.81.226 (talk) 20:13, 14 January 2017 (UTC)
23:20:30, 14 January 2017 review of submission by 98.245.81.226
Hi SwisterTwister,
Thanks again for your response. I am happy to comply with the standards and am just trying to understand what they are. If the article for Emily Pettit was made prior to the changes, that makes sense. Thanks!98.245.81.226 (talk) 23:20, 14 January 2017 (UTC)
15:47:37, 15 January 2017 review of submission by Benlol98
I've removed the notable section after reading WP:ORG . May I know what else I can do to improve the article? I still have a lot to learn so please do enlighten me.
Discussion at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Factom
You are invited to join the discussion at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Factom. — JJMC89 (T·C) 20:47, 15 January 2017 (UTC)Template:Z48
Silverlake Axis draft submission
Hi. Actually I added links to Gartner and IDC, which are recognized organizations that have profiled the company and its products. I wouldn't consider those the company's own website.
Mictan236 (talk) 02:27, 16 January 2017 (UTC)
Gartner and IDC do independent reviews on many companies in several industries. All the company provides is raw data. This data is then analyzed against the company's competitors with no influence from the company itself. Gartner actually did a deep comparison of SIBS versus other core banking products. I don't know how to show it to you because the full documents require Gartner and IDC subscriptions to access. If this is still not notable enough then I don't think there's anything else I can do.
Mictan236 (talk) 02:36, 16 January 2017 (UTC)
Cambodian football AFC submissions
I have a favour to ask. Over the past few months, you have reviewed a couple AFC submissions for articles related to football in Cambodia created by unregistered editors. (See Draft:2017 Cambodian League, Draft:Sun Vandeth, and Draft:Seut Baraing.) If you come across any more of these in the future, would please let me or a SPI clerk know before accepting them, especially if the corresponding article page has been deleted before? The creation of this sort of article by IP's in the draft namespace is fairly strong indicator of sockpuppetry from 089baby (talk · contribs). Thanks in advance. Sir Sputnik (talk) 02:50, 16 January 2017 (UTC)
05:10:36, 16 January 2017 review of submission by Abic1991
I have included news articles from cyclingnews.com and cyclingtips.com, both of which are major sports news outlets. Are these sufficiently important outlets? If so, I can include more references from different articles on these sites
05:34:00, 16 January 2017 review of submission by Alexhaddad91
- Alexhaddad91 (talk · contribs)
Andrew Rothschild has invented the genre bluestronica. There is no published music that falls in this genre of bluestronica. Andrew Rothschild's music does not fit the blues, or electronica genre. Hence he has created a new genre. No artist has claimed their music to be apart of this genre. He has elements of both in his music. The sources are legitimate. This is not a scientific matter, he is an artist and his artwork has received notable attention.
Draft: The Deltahorse
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:The_Deltahorse
Hi SwisterTwister,
thanks again for your help on improving this article.
As requested in your first comment on Jan 9 ″″(There's still not enough major reviews from major publications, focus with only major news and reviews and no press releases, trivial passing mentions or interviews. SwisterTwister talk 18:18, 9 January 2017 (UTC))″″ My response was to include links to references with weight, published by credible media only. You then wrote on Jan 13 ″″(Would still benefit from all additional major independent news and reviews. SwisterTwister talk 20:40, 13 January 2017 (UTC))″″ What would you consider independent? Since we are talking about artists and music--I would like to think all published reviews on music reflect the personal opinion of the authors who write about it. As far as this goes I did my best to pick and reference articles with a more neutral point of view. After studying quite a few other articles about artists here on Wiki I must come to the conclusion that their references are not exactly independent. Please help me understand your last request. As always, thank you for your effort. It is appreciated. Christina Katzmann07:48, 16 January 2017 (UTC)
This is an artist — Preceding unsigned comment added by CK KC (talk • contribs) 07:48, 16 January 2017 (UTC)
13:22:24, 16 January 2017 review of submission by SHBCARE
Several new good citations, and more information was added to the draft by user SHBCARE; and I've made some tone and MOS changes. -- Jeandré, 2017-01-16t13:22z
- E.g. this Sydney Morning Herald article. -- Jeandré, 2017-01-16t13:36z
Draft: Hitting Town
Hi SwisterTwister, Thank you for your review of Draft: Hitting Town. Please could you expand on your comment "specifically needs major reviews"? I am very new to Wikipedia and so I am not sure how to contact you for expansion of this and am not sure if you have already left these details for me somewhere?
Many thanks, Emma Emma Bosch (talk) 15:21, 16 January 2017 (UTC)
Draft: Kalray
Hi SwisterTwister,
I see that you recently reviewed a "Kalray" draft.
To be transparent, I would like to let you know that I am a current employee of Kalray. For years, our company and our products have been cited on Wikipedia, though there is no article in the name of the company. I am happy to see that one has now been created, but disappointed that it was refused.
As we are referenced over a dozen times in various wikipedia articles, I believe it is in the best interest of all concerned to have more information available about our company. Do you have any concrete advice about how to go about improving this article? I noticed that the article did not have scientific references, and it did have PR references. If I added more scientific references (we have dozens of peer-reviewed scientific papers) and took out the PRs, would you be likely to OK the article ?
Thanks! AndreaAndibusch (talk) 16:03, 16 January 2017 (UTC)
20:08:55, 16 January 2017 review of submission by 2601:681:4700:399C:3960:7026:53E9:AD9C
I was researching this company for work and was surprised that they didn't have an article in wikipedia. I wanted to know who they were and what their basic business model was. I had to go to an external source to find this. I thought it would be useful to have this info in wikipedia. I don't work for them, I don't have a vested interest in their success or failure, I just found it annoying that this info wasn't available here, and wanted to fix that.
draft SHARON PINCOTT - going to RESUBMIT
Hello SwisterTwister, Hoped to have a final Live Chat to you, but you're not currently there. I feel confident now that I've done everything that you and Huon have asked me to, after numerous Live Chats to you both - and many, many edits and improvements. Am hoping that it will be okay this time. Thankyou for all of your input, help and encouragement. Arnie1000 (talk) 23:57, 16 January 2017 (UTC)
Draft: Irene Kepl
Hi SwisterTwister,
thanks for reviewing my first article draft. I'm planning the Soundout festival at the moment and was adding Irene Kepl, because she is one of our main international guests and I wanted to add her to Wikipedia, so Australian listeners who don't know her, yet, would be able to read up on her. As far as I understand, receiving the Theodor Körner Price alone makes her significant enough to be on Wikipedia, and the new source I found for that is directly the page of the Austrian Ministry for Arts and Science. In the genre of improvised music she is basically a "star", leading to the recent publications with FouRecords and Another Timbre as well as the little older SlamRecords publication. Since in improvised music, recordings are not very common, those three publications with the most important labels in improvised music are basically cementing her in as a main player in her field. ;) So, I have added a lot of additional sources, and hope it's enough now for this article to be accepted. Thx for your work, VT
~~Vtsound~~ — Preceding unsigned comment added by Vtsound (talk • contribs) 00:08, 17 January 2017 (UTC)
Draft: Whiskey Bards
Your comment on my draft said that I needed "major publications" as my sources. But the Wikipedia guidelines for musicians and ensembles do not say anything about "major" publications. The guidelines read: "This criterion includes published works in all forms," but nowhere does it say they have to be major published works.
Two of my sources were album reviews from separate, independent websites, one devoted to folk art, the other to pirate-themed music. In my opinion, this meets the requirement of: "Has been the subject of multiple, non-trivial, published works appearing in sources that are reliable, not self-published, and are independent of the musician or ensemble itself."
Please reconsider my draft without an insistence on "major" publications, as this is not one of the requirements. Cybotik (talk) 06:41, 17 January 2017 (UTC)
Draft:. Whiskey Bards
The websites I used as sources, despite your dismissal, have been cited multiple times by multiple contributors to Wikipedia, including in two articles in which there were only two sources referenced, and in one of those Going Overboard (album), the only other source was no longer active. If one of my sources is acceptable as the single valid source for another Wikipedia article, then it should be acceptable as one of several sources in my own article.
Follow the links to see the various Wikipedia pages using the same sources I did.