Talk:Arab Christians

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Genetic analysis or cultural association?[edit]

This article was unhelpful and inconsistent, and the talk page shows why this is so.

The genetic analysis looked promising, but it was poorly written and cited few articles. Not sure whether is due to the sparsity of data or lack of care in synthesizing this.

But it really comes down to, who is an Arab? Is it really necessary to slice and dice peoples' DNA to figure out that although their ethnic group lived in Arab countries and spoke Arabic for centuries, they might not be Arabs? If a group lives in Lebanon, and is Christian, and speaks Arabic, and shares about as much of whatever allele as the Muslim population, but some subset of it doesn't like to think of itself as Arab, for political reasons especially, who are they trying to fool?

Come up with objective criteria for who is an Arab, and stick with it. Then divide it up by religion. If there are multiple scholarly views on this, then acknowledge that, but go with the currently predominant view. This article needs some heavy-handed administration.

Bsfreer7 (talk) 00:28, 8 October 2014 (UTC)Bsfreer7

"Arab" is an ethnicity and has nothing whatsoever to do with biology. An "arab" is anyone who natively speaks arabic or is from the Arabian peninsula. ParkH.Davis (talk) 01:51, 9 January 2016 (UTC)

Infobox and definition[edit]

New article editors are kindly advised to read the above consensus prior to editing the infobox and the definition of "Arab Christians". The community has decided certain guidelines for this page, and if there are minority opinions who would like to challenge it - please make a proper suggestion. So far it is decided that Maronites, Chaldo-Assyrians and Copts are excluded from infobox, as their Arab identity is a matter of controversy. Further definition of Arab Christians is mostly ethno-religious, though we do mention the cultural association as well (in case of Copts, Maronites and Assyrians). See above conversations for more.GreyShark (dibra) 17:45, 15 February 2015 (UTC)

Merger[edit]

Following the previous failed proposal to merge Arab Orthodox -> Greek Orthodox Church of Antioch, it seems to me that first of all Arab Orthodox article is completely redundant, with the only piece of valuable text dealing with Arab Christian attempt in the Greek Orthodox Patriarchate to gain clergy status in Orthodox Churches (which are packed with ethnic Greeks), and secondly that this content should probably belong to Arab Christians article. Some information about the definition of "Rum Christians" can also go to disputed identity section in Arab Christians article.GreyShark (dibra) 17:16, 17 February 2015 (UTC)

  • Support per nomination. Ariel 18:55, 17 February 2015 (UTC)
  • Comment - merged (though there was very little to merge).Yes check.svg Done However, the Arab Orthodox redirect is now pointing to the Arab Orthodox Society.GreyShark (dibra) 19:38, 14 April 2015 (UTC)

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Morocco and Algiers[edit]

Someone added Morocco and Algiers numbers of "converts". I would like some more profound sources on this please.GreyShark (dibra) 13:05, 22 June 2016 (UTC)

Removed with no objections.Yes check.svg Done