Template talk:Infobox country at games/Archive 1
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A navbox, a sidebar, and an infobox all walk into a room
There was (a while ago) a TFD regarding the Commonwealth Games by nation navigational boxes. Specifically, the concern was that the navbox-esque links found in places like Canada at the Commonwealth Games were better suited than the navboxes. This did an abrupt about-face when everyone realized that information might be better as navboxes. The TFD itself closed with no action and a rather short discussion was held regarding the fate of these history sections in the infoboxes.
One result of that TFD, combined with the results of this TFD, resulted in THIS tfd, in which every "country at games" template would be, understandably, merged and replaced by {{infobox country at games}} (which is why this discussion is happening here). The conversion is almost complete (all of the templates bar one are wrappers and will shortly be substituted out of existence), but I came across that short-lived discussion and want to get input before I pull the final trigger and make things much much harder to standardize.
It's a simple question, I suppose. Should a link to other editions of a country at a game (be it the Olympics, the Commonwealth Games, or the World Aquatics Championships) be in the infobox, or in a navbox? Thanks for the input. Primefac (talk) 04:47, 28 November 2016 (UTC)
- @Sportsfan 1234, Frietjes, NSH002, and Kaldari: you were involved in the original TFD/discussion, so your input is requested as well. Primefac (talk) 04:53, 28 November 2016 (UTC)
- My vote would be for neither, but if I had to choose one, I would put them in the navbox, not the infobox. Kaldari (talk) 05:42, 28 November 2016 (UTC)
- my preference is for either succession links, or a navbox if there are enough articles. Frietjes (talk) 14:43, 28 November 2016 (UTC)
- Hi guys, my preference is to have both. I have always liked having them in the infobox, something that Andrwsc came up with in his original design way back in 2006. -- Ianblair23 (talk) 21:04, 3 December 2016 (UTC)
- Hello, sidebars are great for desktop screens, but not so great for mobile screens. The larger the sidebars, the less practical they are for mobile screens. --167.58.93.235 (talk) 18:29, 5 December 2016 (UTC)
RfC on navigation options
{{infobox country at games}} currently offers two display options for navigating between appearances of a country at a games: the first is the standard "next/previous" option, where you can navigate forward or backward one appearances (Example 1). The second is a navbox-style section with every appearance at the games shown (Example 2, Example 3).
There have been previous discussions but all have petered out without a clear consensus. So I offer three options: keep only the next/previous, keep only the infobox-style, or keep both. Primefac (talk) 21:52, 21 January 2017 (UTC) bump 14:05, 23 December 2016 (UTC)
Option 1: keep only the next/previous navigation
Option 2: keep only the navbox-style navigation
Option 3: status quo: change nothing
Discussion
- My main concern with keeping the navbox-style option is shown in Example 3, where there are only two pages in that entire sequence. Additionally, large navigation options like Canada at the Summer Olympics can easily be put into a navbox (I have created {{country at games navbox}} specifically for easy navbox creation), though I can see how having it at the top of the page would allow for easier navigation (in other words, I'm neutral on the outcome). Primefac (talk) 14:05, 23 December 2016 (UTC)
- Certainly where these are used on an Olympic/Paralympic articles my preference is to allow the links to all years to be displayed in the infobox. I think this is particularly useful when looking at countries that have appeared under previous names, e.g. Serbia at the 2008 Summer Olympics, here a reader could be very confused if previous didn't link at all or jumped to Serbia at the 1912 Summer Olympics or even Serbia and Montenegro at the 2004 Summer Olympics. On a related note Primefac (as I think may have missed a discussion somewhere) was there a specific reason that Winter Olympic appearances are now not show on Summer Olympic article infoboxes (and vice versa) by default - to me that seems like a loss of some useful functionality? - Basement12 (T.C) 11:01, 28 December 2016 (UTC)
- The
|seealso=
parameter deals with related appearances (some, like Yugoslavia, are rather large), so even if we went purely to a prev/next option those would still be available. And as for the Serbia example, the "prev" link would be set up to link to Serbia and Montenegro at the 2004 Summer Olympics (in addition to the seealso). - On your related note, there was no official discussion; the way this template is coded is that when
|appearances=auto
it shows the {{team appearances list}} based on the year and the games. Thus, if|games=Summer Olympics
it will only show the Summer Olympics. While it's a different discussion (mostly dependent on this one) the template could be changed to automatically show|summerappearances=
and|winterappearances=
, but then we would probably also have to add parameters for the Asian Games and all of its flavours, and at that point we're just making an overly complicated navbox and not an infobox. If the consensus is to go that route, of course, then I'm willing to do the coding. Primefac (talk) 15:38, 28 December 2016 (UTC)- Hmm... Whilst I can see how it could be considered "an overly complicated navbox" and can see why the choice to switch to a one-size fits all infobox was made, the old infoboxes had been in use for a long time and perhaps additionally functionality, which was generally considered a plus, at least for Olympic/Paralympic articles, wasn't fully considered. For example I believe the "Flagbearer" parameter may have previously linked to e.g. 2016 Summer Olympics Parade of Nations, perhaps another thing that was lost with no discussion? (EDIT: On closer inspection I see this is just a problem for some years... E.g. 2000 Summer Olympics national flag bearers is linked to but the 2008 onward articles are under the parade of nations style name which is just a pain in the backside all round - 10:26, 9 January 2017 (UTC)) Clearly hosting the discussion here isn't drawing much interest so perhaps you may want to consider another location? - Basement12 (T.C) 10:21, 9 January 2017 (UTC)
- The
- Certainly where these are used on an Olympic/Paralympic articles my preference is to allow the links to all years to be displayed in the infobox. I think this is particularly useful when looking at countries that have appeared under previous names, e.g. Serbia at the 2008 Summer Olympics, here a reader could be very confused if previous didn't link at all or jumped to Serbia at the 1912 Summer Olympics or even Serbia and Montenegro at the 2004 Summer Olympics. On a related note Primefac (as I think may have missed a discussion somewhere) was there a specific reason that Winter Olympic appearances are now not show on Summer Olympic article infoboxes (and vice versa) by default - to me that seems like a loss of some useful functionality? - Basement12 (T.C) 11:01, 28 December 2016 (UTC)
Non-free image use in template
This template is for some reason adding the non-fee image File:Fédération International de Natation Amateur flag.gif to various articles where it is being used and "FINA" is being added for the parameter |NF=
. Non-free images are not allowed to be used directly in templates per WP:NFCC#9 and this type of indirect use is also problematic because a separate specific non-free use rationale is required for each use per WP:NFCC#10c. The flag could be used in a stand-alone article about FINA Independent Athletes in general or even in main article about FINA itself, but it should not be being used in individual articles for individual years per WP:NFCC#3, WP:NFCC#8, item 14 of WP:NFC#UUI and item 17 of WP:NFC#UUI. Since this infobox is being used in quite a number of articles, someone familar with the template should change the syntax so that it does not call up this flag. A freely licensed or public domain equivalent image from Commons (if one exists) can be used instead or a wordmark file of the acronym "FINA" can be created and uploaded for use in these article. The three rationales on the file's page a basically boilerplate type of rationales which almost certainly would not survive a WP:FFD discussion, but a new rationale can be added for the FINA main page for the files use in the main infobox. -- Marchjuly (talk) 09:06, 19 August 2017 (UTC)
- Yeah, I know. Originally it was only meant for one page, but it kinda bloomed from there. I'll upload a cropped version. Primefac (talk) 16:14, 19 August 2017 (UTC)
label5, data5
I think there should be made some edits. Maybe NF -> FINA, I'd guess NF=national federation? Also, what is that label NF for "NFname" (label5 and data5) ? --Pelmeen10 (talk) 22:31, 6 January 2018 (UTC)
- Done. Primefac (talk) 05:11, 7 January 2018 (UTC)
Eritrea erroneously listed as participating in 2016 Winter Youth Olympics
This can be seen at Eritrea at the 2012 Winter Youth Olympics, redlinking. 2016 Winter Youth Olympics#Participating nations does not list Eritrea as a participant that year. SellymeTalk 12:57, 18 February 2018 (UTC)
- Also, Cayman Islands at the 2012 Winter Youth Olympics, Uzbekistan at the 2012 Winter Youth Olympics. --Pelmeen10 (talk) 13:24, 18 February 2018 (UTC)
- Fixed. Primefac (talk) 13:46, 18 February 2018 (UTC)
- Netherlands Antilles at the 2010 Summer Youth Olympics also showing 2014 link. --Pelmeen10 (talk) 22:07, 28 February 2018 (UTC)
- Done. Primefac (talk) 12:36, 1 March 2018 (UTC)
- Netherlands Antilles at the 2010 Summer Youth Olympics also showing 2014 link. --Pelmeen10 (talk) 22:07, 28 February 2018 (UTC)
- Fixed. Primefac (talk) 13:46, 18 February 2018 (UTC)
We need update of "appearances=auto" to 2018 Mediterranean Games
Tnx ;) --Kasper2006 (talk) 16:39, 26 June 2018 (UTC)
- I've added 2018 to the list. Please list here which countries did not show up to the Med Games (assuming they had shown up at a previous one) and I'll greylink those entries. Primefac (talk) 19:43, 26 June 2018 (UTC)
- tnx. it now works for all countries (y) ;)--Kasper2006 (talk) 10:18, 27 June 2018 (UTC)
2018 European Athletics Championships
Please can we have the 2018 row, thank you. ;) --Kasper2006 (talk) 10:42, 12 July 2018 (UTC)
- Done. Primefac (talk) 11:35, 12 July 2018 (UTC)
- tnx ;) --Kasper2006 (talk) 16:06, 12 July 2018 (UTC)
Year links in infobox
Great Britain at the 2018 Winter Paralympics now exists. How do we make the "2018" appear at the bottom of its own infobox and, more importantly, that for Great Britain at the 2014 Winter Paralympics? Any help, please? Thanks. PamD 07:49, 27 January 2018 (UTC)
- And I see the same problem at Australia at the 2018 Winter Paralympics and Australia at the 2014 Winter Paralympics. PamD 07:50, 27 January 2018 (UTC)
- Done. Purge will be needed to see the change. Primefac (talk) 15:49, 27 January 2018 (UTC)
- The link to 2018 is now on every country that previously has competed at Winter Olympics. example, maybe is better to check 2018_Winter_Paralympics#Participating_National_Paralympic_Committees? --Pelmeen10 (talk) 17:37, 27 January 2018 (UTC)
- Is that the definite/final list of participants? Primefac (talk) 17:40, 27 January 2018 (UTC)
- Sorry, I don't know that. I believe it will change, 2 months to go... --Pelmeen10 (talk) 18:29, 27 January 2018 (UTC)
- Okay. It's a ton of redlinks anyway (looks like only 4 bluelinks) so when the final list comes out I'm happy to strike the ones that didn't make the cut. Just pop a note here when it happens. Primefac (talk) 18:32, 27 January 2018 (UTC)
- Sorry, I don't know that. I believe it will change, 2 months to go... --Pelmeen10 (talk) 18:29, 27 January 2018 (UTC)
- Is that the definite/final list of participants? Primefac (talk) 17:40, 27 January 2018 (UTC)
- The link to 2018 is now on every country that previously has competed at Winter Olympics. example, maybe is better to check 2018_Winter_Paralympics#Participating_National_Paralympic_Committees? --Pelmeen10 (talk) 17:37, 27 January 2018 (UTC)
- Done. Purge will be needed to see the change. Primefac (talk) 15:49, 27 January 2018 (UTC)
2018 Winter Paralympics - Nations that did not compete: Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, Liechtenstein, Kyrgyzstan, South Africa, Uganda. And at the 2016 Summer Paralympics, Liberia did not compete. --Pelmeen10 (talk) 05:23, 13 July 2018 (UTC)
- Done. Primefac (talk) 14:42, 13 July 2018 (UTC)
- For Liberia at the Paralympics, I meant 2016 summer, not 2018 winter. --Pelmeen10 (talk) 18:10, 13 July 2018 (UTC)
- Whoops; autopilot. Fixed. Primefac (talk) 18:16, 13 July 2018 (UTC)
- For Liberia at the Paralympics, I meant 2016 summer, not 2018 winter. --Pelmeen10 (talk) 18:10, 13 July 2018 (UTC)
Flagbearer parameter
For the Olympics, opening and closing ceremony flag bearers are added to the infobox in the flagbearer parameter, often with a break tag. Could we add two parameters, opening_flagbearer and closing_flagbearer, to differentiate between the two? We can keep the flagbearer parameter for already existing articles and non-Olympic Games. Kees08 (Talk) 22:12, 14 July 2018 (UTC)
- It's already in there -
|flagbearer_close=
. Primefac (talk) 22:18, 14 July 2018 (UTC)
How to get correct team name for GBR?
The name of the UK's team at the 2018 European Athletics Championships was "Great Britain and Northern Ireland", not "Great Britain". Can anyone help me to get 'GBR' to render correctly please, and fix the links to point to the corrected article name. Similarly for the UK's team at the 2018 European Championships. Thanks. -- DeFacto (talk). 16:51, 18 August 2018 (UTC)
- Done. Be nice if they picked a name and stuck with it. Primefac (talk) 14:40, 20 August 2018 (UTC)
Small glitch with flagbearer_open
It's not shown when infobox also includes "flagbearer" (left empty). See example. --Pelmeen10 (talk) 05:35, 9 October 2018 (UTC)
- Fixed. Primefac (talk) 11:13, 9 October 2018 (UTC)
Curaçao and Netherlands Antilles at the Pan American Games
I recently added Curaçao's participation at the 1955 Pan American Games, but I don't know if it's possible to change the flag from the current design (since 1982) to the flag of the Kingdom of Netherlands. It's important to note that Curaçao's only participation at the Games, as of 2019, was in 1955. This way, the flag for the Kingdom of Netherlands is the right flag to use for the territory as of now.
Besides, currently the flag for the Netherlands Antilles is by default the flag for the Kingdom of Netherlands, when in fact the territory used its own flag, at least in the 2007 edition (as seen at the end of this video). I believe it is important to use the most recent flag by the territory instead of the flag for the Kingdom of Netherlands.
Could someone add a parameter to use the flag of the Kingdom of Netherlands for Curaçao in 1955, and set the Netherlands Antilles own flag as default for the Netherlands Antilles, please? -- ThiagoSimoes (talk) 01:34, 18 August 2019 (UTC)
- ThiagoSimoes, you have made a lot of changes, and I see no references to support them. I will look into the flag matter, but without references for Curacao's involvement your changes might have to be reverted. Primefac (talk) 06:43, 18 August 2019 (UTC) (please do not ping on reply)
- Update: just found this reference which seems to imply that it was Netherlands Antilles that competed in 1955 (see Pg 230 of the book/254 of the PDF). If a source contesting this is not found, I'll be reverting your changes. Primefac (talk) 07:20, 18 August 2019 (UTC)
- I apologize. There has been an honest mistake. I contacted Wikipedian Intoronto1125, who made the original change to redirect the article Curaçao at the Pan American Games to the article Netherlands Antilles at the Pan American Games back in 2012. He is not active in Wikipedia anymore, but as luck would have it, he is a member of a forum I take part in (Totallympics) and he confirmed he does not remember why he had made this change back then. Since he did not document the changes, I decided to revert back to the original state until further evidence appeared. Now we have official results, and I was also able to find this [1], a newspaper article in Portuguese from 1955 mentioning the name of the country at the Pan American Games as Antilhas Holand., a short form of Antilhas Holandesas which translates to Netherlands Antilles. Reverting the changes would still keep a long-time mistake: there was no Curaçao team at the 1955 Pan American Games. I will revert the changes and adapt the 1955 article, as well as the article on the medal table (which mentions Curaçao as a debuting nation), and as a result the article about the 1959 medal table will also need to be changed (it mentions the Netherlands Antilles as a debuting nation, when in fact it debuted in 1955). I am sorry for any inconveniences. -- ThiagoSimoes (talk) 14:28, 18 August 2019 (UTC)
- Thanks for taking care of that. I will, however, be sure to look into the various "old" versions of the flags for NA and Curacao just in case they do end up used anywhere. Primefac (talk) 18:42, 18 August 2019 (UTC)
- I apologize. There has been an honest mistake. I contacted Wikipedian Intoronto1125, who made the original change to redirect the article Curaçao at the Pan American Games to the article Netherlands Antilles at the Pan American Games back in 2012. He is not active in Wikipedia anymore, but as luck would have it, he is a member of a forum I take part in (Totallympics) and he confirmed he does not remember why he had made this change back then. Since he did not document the changes, I decided to revert back to the original state until further evidence appeared. Now we have official results, and I was also able to find this [1], a newspaper article in Portuguese from 1955 mentioning the name of the country at the Pan American Games as Antilhas Holand., a short form of Antilhas Holandesas which translates to Netherlands Antilles. Reverting the changes would still keep a long-time mistake: there was no Curaçao team at the 1955 Pan American Games. I will revert the changes and adapt the 1955 article, as well as the article on the medal table (which mentions Curaçao as a debuting nation), and as a result the article about the 1959 medal table will also need to be changed (it mentions the Netherlands Antilles as a debuting nation, when in fact it debuted in 1955). I am sorry for any inconveniences. -- ThiagoSimoes (talk) 14:28, 18 August 2019 (UTC)
Countries at the World Athletics Championships
Until 2017 they're named "x at the 2017 World Championships in Athletics" and from 2019 "x at the 2019 World Athletics Championships". Pelmeen10 (talk) 12:01, 28 September 2019 (UTC)
- sigh why can't people just pick a name and stick with it... I'll get on it. Primefac (talk) 14:59, 29 September 2019 (UTC)
- I've done a quick hack/slash fix to at least get the games in there with the right names. I'll keep working to make it pretty. Primefac (talk) 14:25, 6 October 2019 (UTC)
- I've updated the module to better handle name changes. Primefac (talk) 14:48, 1 January 2020 (UTC)
- I've done a quick hack/slash fix to at least get the games in there with the right names. I'll keep working to make it pretty. Primefac (talk) 14:25, 6 October 2019 (UTC)
Asian Games
Hi, for whatever reason that "auto" option doesn't work well for XXX at the XXX Asian Games pages, see Jordan at the 2002 Asian Games as an example but this is the same for all other NOCs. Mohsen1248 (talk) 09:41, 20 March 2020 (UTC)
- Small typo. Fixed, should start percolating through the system. Thanks. Primefac (talk) 12:25, 20 March 2020 (UTC)
Status/participation field
Is it possible to get a status box to reflect participation? I think this would be helpful for countries like Australia at the 2020 Summer Olympics and Canada at the 2020 Summer Olympics – both have officially withdrawn. A status field for options Withdrawn or boycott would be good. We don't know how long it will be until these Olympics are formally postponed. Further, I think there should be individual articles for boycotted nations, ie United States at the 1980 Summer Olympics, to document the teams they would have sent had they participated. The boycott was merely one aspect of their preparation for the Olympics. —МандичкаYO 😜 09:57, 23 March 2020 (UTC)
- {{Team appearances list}} currently keeps track of games where a team did not participate, as seen in places like the Canada article for 1980. If and when the Games happen any and all teams who did not participate will be updated; just because they said that they are expecting the games to be delayed does not mean they have officially not done so. Creating articles for teams that never competed is something to be discussed elsewhere, though (maybe WT:OLYMPICS?). Primefac (talk) 13:10, 23 March 2020 (UTC)
Parameter "omit"
Parameters "omit2" to "omit10" are present in this template source, but NOT working. These parameters seem to lack on the core. --Nekohan (talk) 14:16, 2 June 2020 (UTC)
- Yeah, it's a throwback to the early days of this template and {{team appearances list}}, before pretty much every major "games" was hard-coded into the base module of the latter template. They were originally included for when a team missed or skipped an edition of a Games, but it never got used (i.e. there are no pages in Category:Pages using infobox country at games with multiple omissions) so when I redesigned the template to include a /core I left them out of the /core. I suppose I could just remove them from the main template. Primefac (talk) 14:24, 2 June 2020 (UTC)
- OK, I see. I have ported this template to Japanese Wikipedia, and I thought the omit parameters are useful for ja wiki, because there are no data in Japanese. But surely it may not be necessary for en wiki. Nekohan (talk) 18:04, 2 June 2020 (UTC)
Refugee Olympic Team
Please can an expert on this module find a way to stop Refugee Olympic Team at the 2016 Summer Olympics linking to dab Refugee Olympic Team at the Summer Olympics in the infobox? I've tried unsetting app_interval, app_begin_year and appearances as suggested by the #switch which sets TALapps but I just can't get rid of it. Thanks, Certes (talk) 13:15, 17 November 2020 (UTC)
- Given that your second link isn't actually a dab, I've restored the redirect. Primefac (talk) 13:28, 17 November 2020 (UTC)
- Thanks; that works well for now as the "dab" has only one blue link. We may have to revisit this next year, unless someone writes an article similar to Afghanistan at the Summer Olympics etc. Certes (talk) 13:41, 17 November 2020 (UTC)
World Athletics instead of IAAF
Maybe it would be useful to update the IAAF section in the template. Instead of IAAF it should be World Athletics, abbreviation WA. Nordat (talk) 14:11, 3 May 2021 (UTC)
- Done. Both
|WA=
and|IAAF=
will be acceptable inputs to give legacy support. Primefac (talk) 15:15, 3 May 2021 (UTC)
2021 European Athletics Indoor Championships
Hi. Please we nead update in the appearances line --Kasper2006 (talk) 15:41, 26 February 2021 (UTC)
- Done. Primefac (talk) 15:42, 26 February 2021 (UTC)
- @Primefac: sorry, the first edition was 1966 not 1970. Can you fix it? --Kasper2006 (talk) 04:30, 20 April 2021 (UTC)
- Fixed. Primefac (talk) 10:33, 20 April 2021 (UTC)
- Primefac sorry again. The 1967, 1968 and 1969 editions are missing. --Kasper2006 (talk) 08:16, 21 April 2021 (UTC)
- Whoops! That's what I get for doing too much work with the Olympics and just assuming everything is on a four year schedule! Primefac (talk) 12:57, 21 April 2021 (UTC)
- Don't worry @Primefac: please you could set 8 years per row (as in the overview) and not 9 as now. --Kasper2006 (talk) 05:04, 24 April 2021 (UTC)
- I have no idea what you mean. Primefac (talk) 17:20, 25 April 2021 (UTC)
- In the infobox the years of the 32 editions of the championships are arranged on three lines (9, 9, 9 and 3). It would be better to do four lines (8, 8, 8, 8) --Kasper2006 (talk) 18:47, 3 May 2021 (UTC)
- The size of the infobox is determined automatically, generally by the largest item in the IB. In this case, the name of the games is long enough to allow for nine across. I've seen some pages where it's skinny enough for seven across. As it's just a list, there's not really a way of standardizing it. Primefac (talk) 18:56, 3 May 2021 (UTC)
- In the infobox the years of the 32 editions of the championships are arranged on three lines (9, 9, 9 and 3). It would be better to do four lines (8, 8, 8, 8) --Kasper2006 (talk) 18:47, 3 May 2021 (UTC)
- I have no idea what you mean. Primefac (talk) 17:20, 25 April 2021 (UTC)
- Don't worry @Primefac: please you could set 8 years per row (as in the overview) and not 9 as now. --Kasper2006 (talk) 05:04, 24 April 2021 (UTC)
- Whoops! That's what I get for doing too much work with the Olympics and just assuming everything is on a four year schedule! Primefac (talk) 12:57, 21 April 2021 (UTC)
- Primefac sorry again. The 1967, 1968 and 1969 editions are missing. --Kasper2006 (talk) 08:16, 21 April 2021 (UTC)
- Fixed. Primefac (talk) 10:33, 20 April 2021 (UTC)
- @Primefac: sorry, the first edition was 1966 not 1970. Can you fix it? --Kasper2006 (talk) 04:30, 20 April 2021 (UTC)
For the appearances work with games = "World Indoor Championships in Athletics" but not "World Athletics Indoor Championships"
Can fix this? --Kasper2006 (talk) 09:58, 1 June 2021 (UTC)
- Done. Primefac (talk) 10:17, 1 June 2021 (UTC)
2020 Summer Olympics
Could you please fix the 2020 year template in the 2020 Summer Olympics as its italicized being a future event. It has not started yet as will begin on 23 July 2021 despite being postponed a year due to the COVID-19 pandemic?
From 23 July 2021 at 15:00 UTC, it will be un-italicized during the Games. ApprenticeWiki work 07:38, 21 June 2021 (UTC)
- Short answer, no.
- Slightly longer answer: this is a year-based italics system, so if the games are being played in 2022, it will appear italic until 1 Jan 2022 (even if the games are in November). Even if the Olympics were properly held in 2020, it would have been un-italicized since Jan 2020.
- Longest answer: this module is not that granular, and can only handle the inputs available to it. The 2020 Olympics are an oddity because they were delayed a year, but the module only checks "year of games > current year"; there is no way to say that OR if we happen to manually input that this particular year is an odd one; it doesn't go by month and thus there is no reasonable way to change the ouput.
- Snarky answer: it's a month away; who cares? Primefac (talk) 10:11, 21 June 2021 (UTC)
Officials parameter
Hi there, is it possible for the officials to display above the medal totals? It sort of looks out of place under the medal totals. Can the title of officials also be renamed to officials/coaches (or another name that encompasses both of them)? From reading team releases they seem to be clumped into one group. Sportsfan 1234 (talk) 23:17, 17 July 2021 (UTC)
- In looking at who they are and what they do, I almost feel like they should be listed under the NOC in the upper section. Otherwise, yes, between the flag bearers and the medal count would be better than below the medal count. Primefac (talk) 13:43, 18 July 2021 (UTC)
- I guess no one has an opinion on this? Sportsfan 1234 (talk) 22:07, 20 July 2021 (UTC)
- You and me, I guess. Under NOC or above medals? Primefac (talk) 22:25, 20 July 2021 (UTC)
- Above medals. Do you think officials/coaches should be separated? Or one line for both? Sportsfan 1234 (talk) 22:32, 20 July 2021 (UTC)
- When I think "Officials" I do not think "Coaches", I think "people associated with coordinating and supporting the team", which is why I thought they should go below the NOC. I don't think we should include coaches in the infobox, because it would have at least as many people in it as sports, which would mean somewhere in the neighbourhood of 30 people listed, which is unnecessary for an IB. Primefac (talk) 22:40, 20 July 2021 (UTC)
- I think the team and support staff should be above the medals. However, when I say coaches I mean one number total for them. So for ex. Canada announced 131 coaches going. Sportsfan 1234 (talk) 22:47, 20 July 2021 (UTC)
- Is the number of coaches something that would be supported by references? If so, I can see that being a new parameter. Primefac (talk) 22:50, 20 July 2021 (UTC)
- If there is a reference citing it, then yes. Canada's source [2] Sportsfan 1234 (talk) 22:51, 20 July 2021 (UTC)
- Done. Primefac (talk) 23:00, 20 July 2021 (UTC)
- Thanks! What about having the coaches right under the athlete total # ? Sportsfan 1234 (talk) 01:44, 21 July 2021 (UTC)
- I figured it would make more sense to have all of the athlete-related params (competitors, flag bearers) together, and then the "non-athlete" params together. If you think it should be otherwise, though, I'm fine to change it. Primefac (talk) 12:06, 21 July 2021 (UTC)
- Thanks! What about having the coaches right under the athlete total # ? Sportsfan 1234 (talk) 01:44, 21 July 2021 (UTC)
- Done. Primefac (talk) 23:00, 20 July 2021 (UTC)
- If there is a reference citing it, then yes. Canada's source [2] Sportsfan 1234 (talk) 22:51, 20 July 2021 (UTC)
- Is the number of coaches something that would be supported by references? If so, I can see that being a new parameter. Primefac (talk) 22:50, 20 July 2021 (UTC)
- Above medals. Do you think officials/coaches should be separated? Or one line for both? Sportsfan 1234 (talk) 22:32, 20 July 2021 (UTC)
- You and me, I guess. Under NOC or above medals? Primefac (talk) 22:25, 20 July 2021 (UTC)
- I guess no one has an opinion on this? Sportsfan 1234 (talk) 22:07, 20 July 2021 (UTC)
Flag parameter
Hi, how does the Flag parameter work?
I am trying to change the flag of Venezuela on this page to as this is used at the current Olympics (shown in this image of the opening ceremony). I can't get this to work.
Mjb1981 (talk) 14:43, 1 August 2021 (UTC)
- It's actually stored in Module:Country alias. I've updated the module to show the corrected flag. Primefac (talk) 14:53, 1 August 2021 (UTC)
Overview
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indonesia_at_the_2020_Summer_Paralympics
Summer Paralympics appearances (overview)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tunisia_at_the_2020_Summer_Paralympics
Summer Paralympics appearances
almost all of countries at paralympic articles havent overview. but in olympics have.
indonesia have but other countries have not.
one person correct and add (overview) for articles : ..............at the paralympic games.
in ........: name of countries. — Preceding unsigned comment added by IoATi (talk • contribs) 09:29, 22 August 2021 (UTC)
- The presence (or absence) of the
(overview)
link is dependent on whether the related page exists. For Indonesia, Indonesia at the Summer Paralympics exists so the overview link is shown. For Tunisia, Tunisia at the Summer Paralympics does not exist, so the overview link is not shown. However, I notice that Tunisia at the Paralympics exists, so I have created a redirect that will point there (and subsequently show the redirect). If there are other pages like this, creating the redirect will allow the overview link to show. Primefac (talk) 10:53, 22 August 2021 (UTC)
Flagbearer parameters
As the Olympics and Paralympics have started allowing 2 flag bearers, should the parameters be adjusted? I think that parameters flagbearer, flagbearer_open, flagbearer_close should be updated to say "flagbearer(s)" rather than "flagbearer", which implies there's only one. Joseph2302 (talk) 13:15, 27 August 2021 (UTC)
- Soon as I remember the template that allows for an auto-switch if the param is plural, I'll do just that. Primefac (talk) 13:52, 27 August 2021 (UTC)
- Done, will take a while to get through the cache, but I cleared out Algeria at the 2020 Summer Olympics and it works. Primefac (talk) 14:14, 27 August 2021 (UTC)
Colombia at the 2015 Parapan American Games
It appears for the Parapan American Games the appearances logic inserts the category "as is" rather than as a working category; see at the top of, e.g., Colombia at the 2015 Parapan American Games. I don't know when this first started happening but it's something I noticed just now. - Simeon (talk) 13:33, 30 August 2021 (UTC)
- Fixed. Primefac (talk) 14:22, 30 August 2021 (UTC)
- Thanks for fixing this! Simeon (talk) 15:10, 30 August 2021 (UTC)
- No problem. For some reason I didn't foresee the infobox being used without a
|games=
parameter. Primefac (talk) 15:11, 30 August 2021 (UTC)
- No problem. For some reason I didn't foresee the infobox being used without a
- Thanks for fixing this! Simeon (talk) 15:10, 30 August 2021 (UTC)
Template-protected edit request on 13 September 2021
This edit request to Template:Infobox country at games/see also has been answered. Set the |answered= or |ans= parameter to no to reactivate your request. |
Hi. I see the statement {{#ifeq:Paralympics|Paralympics|{{flagIPC|NPA|2018 Winter}} (2018)<br/>}}
in this template and it looks kinda confusing to me. this statement has to be removed or corrected. is there a parameter that we need to compare with "Paralympics"? If so, please define that parameter. otherwise please remove that statement and simply replace it with {{flagIPC|NPA|2018 Winter}}<br/>
. I can't specify the line number because i can't see the line number! (syntax highlighter doesn't work in protected pages) But if you search for it, there's only one instance. Thank you. Jeeputer (talk) 12:31, 13 September 2021 (UTC)
P.S. i think {{#ifeq:{{{1}}}|Paralympics|{{flagIPC|NPA|2018 Winter}} (2018)<br/>}}
is the proper replacement. Jeeputer (talk) 12:34, 13 September 2021 (UTC)
Found one more issue: please also correct EUN = {{flagIOC|LAT}} (1924–1636, 1992–)
to EUN = {{flagIOC|LAT}} (1924–1936, 1992–)
. Jeeputer (talk) 12:46, 13 September 2021 (UTC)
- Done. Thank you for spotting these bugs. – Jonesey95 (talk) 15:12, 13 September 2021 (UTC)
Reversion of 11 December
I've reverted Primefac's edit because it was throwing up error messages in the "Competitors" field of infoboxes in which the |competitors=
parameter was empty, leading to a sudden growth (by about 300 articles) in the population of Category:ParserFunction errors. Deor (talk) 20:42, 11 December 2021 (UTC)
- Thanks, I was trying to shortcut some things and forgot about some others. I've re-written the nested if statements to hopefully avoid the #expr issues that was causing the template to show up in the tracking cat. Primefac (talk) 20:58, 11 December 2021 (UTC)
Is app_begin_year in use?
I'm seeing pages, like Georgia at the 2018 Winter Paralympics, which have app_begin_year = <year> and appearances = auto, but it seems on any of these pages it shows links starting at 1976. When removing app_begin_year, with only appearances = auto, it also does this but it's not clear to me how to fix it. Is this perhaps related to a recent change? Simeon (talk) 21:41, 13 December 2021 (UTC)
- If Module:Team appearances list has the Games stored in the /data module along with appearances for each country, then
|app_begin_year=
does nothing (since the values are already stored in the module). That being said, there are some Games where the values for specific countries are missing, so they should be added (which I have now done for Georgia at the Winter Paralympics).|appearances=auto
no longer does anything, but I didn't see it as a large enough issue to go through the thousands of transclusions to remove it. Primefac (talk) 09:34, 14 December 2021 (UTC)- Thanks, that clarifies things! I'll add a request for changes to the data on that page (specifically for the Winter Paralympics). Simeon (talk) 10:54, 14 December 2021 (UTC)
Belarus at the 2022 Winter Paralympics
20:25, 2 March 2022 (UTC)
Post-1992 Summer & Post-1994 Winter Games
The post-1992 Summer Olympics are showing Winter Olympic years & the post-1994 Winter Olympics are showing Summer Olympic years. GoodDay (talk) 20:10, 4 March 2022 (UTC)
- No idea what you're talking about. Link to an example or two please? Primefac (talk) 20:13, 4 March 2022 (UTC)
Vatican City at the 2022 Mediterranean Games
It appears we now have Vatican City at the 2022 Mediterranean Games which is an unofficial delegation of Vatican City at the 2022 Mediterranean Games. I don't know if it'd mess things up in the data (as it's not an official delegation) but would it be possible to change the template so that any of the years before 2022 don't show up in the infobox? Simeon (talk) 17:23, 8 July 2022 (UTC)
- Interesting! Done. Primefac (talk) 17:38, 8 July 2022 (UTC)
- Thank you! Simeon (talk) 17:59, 8 July 2022 (UTC)
Any chance some of its data will be added? I know some ex-soviet countries coulnd't have participated in the 80s. Pelmeen10 (talk) 17:57, 8 July 2022 (UTC)
- If you've got info, sure. The last time I checked there were only the 2017 Games that had any info, so it kinda seemed pointless to try to fill everything out. Primefac (talk) 18:10, 8 July 2022 (UTC)
European Athletics Championships
Need update at 2022 edition. --Kasper2006 (talk) 06:07, 9 August 2022 (UTC)
- Done. Primefac (talk) 07:42, 9 August 2022 (UTC)
European Aquatics Championships
This templete is missing. For example in this article. --Kasper2006 (talk) 03:08, 20 August 2022 (UTC)
- If there is only one (or a small number) of pages relating to a single competition, it is not yet in the module, mainly to save on the necessity of maintenance updates. If there are more articles created in the future I'm happy to add it in so that the related appearances show up automatically, but at the moment there is no point since they would all be redlinks. Primefac (talk) 12:14, 22 August 2022 (UTC)
Edge case: Brazil at the 1992 Winter Olympics
The 1992 Winter Olympics were held from 8–23 February 1992. Brazil's modern flag was adopted on 11 May 1992. Therefore, at the 1992 Winter Olympics, they were using the 23-star version (1968–1992). Brazil did not send any athletes to the 1992 Winter Paralympic Games, so no need to worry about that. However, {{FlagIOC|BRA|1992 Winter}}
→ Brazil also incorrectly displays the current version of the flag. Could someone please address this edge case for Template:Infobox country at games and Template:FlagIOC? Thank you. Rowing007 (talk) 17:03, 20 December 2022 (UTC)
- Fixed. Primefac (talk) 12:44, 21 December 2022 (UTC)
Istanbul 2023 (2023 European Athletics Indoor Championships)
Somebody please can update this template? --Kasper2006 (talk) 16:08, 6 March 2023 (UTC)
- I don't know, could you please be a bit more specific? If your request is the same as this one, then yes, it has been updated. Primefac (talk) 13:16, 7 March 2023 (UTC)
Null link issue
Do you know why does it create such links as "country at the"? [3] [4] Pelmeen10 (talk) 00:04, 28 March 2023 (UTC)
- Yes, up until a few minutes ago there was an #ifexist statement (
{{{country_year}}} at the {{{noseasons}}}
) that could potentially be passed a null|noseasons=
value. Should be sorted now, as soon as the caches get purged. Primefac (talk) 10:10, 28 March 2023 (UTC)
2023 European Games
The 2023 European Games (starts 21 June) should be added to this template. As far as I can tell, the website has been updated for the 2023 European Games and this should be the list of countries: https://www.european-games.org/participating-countries/ . Simeon (talk) 21:20, 17 June 2023 (UTC)
- Done. Primefac (talk) 15:44, 18 June 2023 (UTC)
- Thank you very much! Now it's time to create all the pages in {{Nations at the 2023 European Games}} :) Simeon (talk) 16:24, 18 June 2023 (UTC)
World Aquatics Championships
Please, update template for World Aquatics Championships. Research from www.worldaquatics.com
["American Samoa"] = {begin_year=1998, 2001, 2003, 2005, 2015, 2022}, ["Anguilla"] = {begin_year=2023}, ["Belarus"] = {begin_year=1994, 2022, 2023}, ["Bhutan"] = {begin_year=2019}, ["Bosnia and Herzegovina"] = {begin_year=1994}, ["Cape Verde"] = {begin_year=2019}, ["Central African Republic"] = {begin_year=2009, 2022}, ["Republic of the Congo"] = {begin_year=2001, 2017, 2019, 2022}, ["Democratic Republic of the Congo"] = {begin_year=2013 ,2015, 2017, 2019, 2023}, ["Cook Islands"] = {begin_year=2007}, ["Comoros"] = {begin_year=2007}, ["Djibouti"] = {begin_year=2009}, ["Dominica"] = {begin_year=2023}, ["Ethiopia"] = {begin_year=2009, 2017}, ["Eritrea"] = {begin_year=2019, 2022, 2023}, ["Fiji"] = {begin_year=1998}, ["Faroe Islands"] = {begin_year=2007}, ["Federated States of Micronesia"] = {begin_year=2003}, ["Gabon"] = {begin_year=2015, 2017}, ["Gambia"] = {begin_year=2013, 2022}, ["Guinea-Bissau"] = {begin_year=2023}, ["Haiti"] = {begin_year=2015}, ["Iraq"] = {begin_year=1998, 2019}, ["Ivory Coast"] = {begin_year=2001, 2022}, ["Saudi Arabia"] = {begin_year=2003, 2011, 2013, 2015, 2017}, ["Kuwait"] = {begin_year=1978, 2017}, ["Liechtenstein"] = {begin_year=2011, 2022}, ["Macao"] = {begin_year=1991, 2022}, ["North Macedonia"] = {begin_year=1994}, ["Namibia"] = {begin_year=1994, 2022}, ["Oman"] = {begin_year=2009, 2013, 2015}, ["Saint Kitts and Nevis"] = {begin_year=2019}, ["Sierra Leone"] = {begin_year=2007, 2009, 2011, 2022}, ["Solomon Islands"] = {begin_year=2019}, ["Sint Maarten"] = {begin_year=2019}, ["Russia"] = {begin_year=1994, 2022, 2023}, ["Turks and Caicos Islands"] = {begin_year=2022}, ["East Timor"] = {begin_year=2017, 2022}, ["Togo"] = {begin_year=1998, 2001, 2003, 2005, 2007, 2022}, ["United Arab Emirates"] = {begin_year=1994, 2019}, ["Vanuatu"] = {begin_year=2019, 2022}, ["Kenya"] = {2022, 2023}, ["East Germany"] = {end_year=1986}, ["West Germany"] = {end_year=1986}, ["Soviet Union"] = {end_year=1991}, ["Yugoslavia "] = {end_year=2003}, ["Equatorial Guinea"] = {begin_year=2019, 2023}, ["Philippines"] = {2023},
WildCherry06 22:32, 1 August 2023 (UTC)
- I'll get to this shortly. Primefac (talk) 09:22, 2 August 2023 (UTC)
- My mistake: not Macao- :( WildCherry06 08:01, 6 August 2023 (UTC)
["Macau"] = {begin_year=1991, 2022}, ["Azerbaijan"] = {begin_year=1994, 2023}, ["Mauritania"] = {2013, 2015, 2017, 2019, 2022, 2023}, ["Myanmar"] = {begin_year=2001, 2011, 2017, 2019, 2022, 2023},
- No worries. Sorted. Primefac (talk) 08:06, 6 August 2023 (UTC)
2022 Asian Games
Should be added to this template. Sportsfan 1234 (talk) 20:35, 19 September 2023 (UTC)
World Aquatics Championship SMF and Refugee teams
Please implement the following updates
Also:
- World Aquatics Refugee Team
- 2023 onwards they should have the flag
- FINA Refugee Team at the 2022 World Aquatics Championships and prior should still have the FINA logo.
- Remove Sri Lanka as a related appearance
- Suspended Member Federation
- 2023 onwards they should have the flag
- Suspended Member Federation at the 2017 World Aquatics Championships should still have the FINA logo.
- Add Sri Lanka (2015), Philippines (2023), Kenya (2023), Kuwait (2017) as a related appearance for the SMF infobox as well as the relevant country federation infoboxes.
- Not sure how to work Sri Lanka 2015 appearance (under the FINA code) though
Hariboneagle927 (talk) 09:14, 23 September 2023 (UTC)
Athlete Refugee Team
Please implement the following updates
- 2022 onwards they should have the flag
John123521 (Talk-Contib.) 15:24, 8 December 2023 (UTC)
- Sure. Primefac (talk) 15:34, 8 December 2023 (UTC)