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DYK for Gambler's Lament
On 11 December 2012, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Gambler's Lament, which you created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that Gambler's Lament, one of the few non–religious poems in the ancient Hindu scripture Rig Veda, testifies to the popularity of gambling among Vedic Aryans? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Gambler's Lament. You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, quick check) and it will be added to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page. |
The DYK project (nominate) 00:02, 11 December 2012 (UTC)
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- See User_talk:Dr._Blofeld#Copyedit_Ananda_Marga
- Do you have a Ramakrishna Mission bookstore and a digital camera near your area? --Tito Dutta (talk) 05:47, 14 December 2012 (UTC)
- I have replied to your comment at User talk:Dr. Blofeld#Copyedit Ananda Marga. No I don't have a Ramakrishna Mission bookstore near my area. What do you need? I can be resourceful. Correct Knowledge«৳alk» 06:03, 14 December 2012 (UTC)
- Yesterday I have started this article Bibliography of Swami Vivekananda, I want an image like this Bibliography_of_Che_Guevara#Books --Tito Dutta (talk) 06:12, 14 December 2012 (UTC)
- I have uploaded the image twice with some tweaks in the second upload, hope in the article it'll not be a big issue until we get a better image. Please see if you find/suggest a DYK hook in the article Bibliography of Swami Vivekananda --Tito Dutta (talk) 07:17, 17 December 2012 (UTC)
- I am not sure about the number, but we can go for it or we can think some better hook. That ref is already added, this can be added too, but it seems to be a mirror. --Tito Dutta (talk) 07:51, 17 December 2012 (UTC)
- Did Swami Vivekananda Give Up Hinduism? is one of the
severalmany books written on Swami Vivekananda? sound perfect! Can you go ahead and nominate? If they ask for more sources (since there are only 2 at this moment), tell them ISBN is linked for most of those books which serve as sources too (clicking on those links give book details, publishers, years) etc! BTW, you can choose another bok as example! --Tito Dutta (talk) 08:11, 17 December 2012 (UTC)- DYK looks great, though you can change the example book to a more notable one (make sure the book should not have a Wikilink, so that we don't need to link it. --Tito Dutta (talk) 09:02, 17 December 2012 (UTC)
- Did Swami Vivekananda Give Up Hinduism? is one of the
- I am not sure about the number, but we can go for it or we can think some better hook. That ref is already added, this can be added too, but it seems to be a mirror. --Tito Dutta (talk) 07:51, 17 December 2012 (UTC)
- I have uploaded the image twice with some tweaks in the second upload, hope in the article it'll not be a big issue until we get a better image. Please see if you find/suggest a DYK hook in the article Bibliography of Swami Vivekananda --Tito Dutta (talk) 07:17, 17 December 2012 (UTC)
- Yesterday I have started this article Bibliography of Swami Vivekananda, I want an image like this Bibliography_of_Che_Guevara#Books --Tito Dutta (talk) 06:12, 14 December 2012 (UTC)
- I have replied to your comment at User talk:Dr. Blofeld#Copyedit Ananda Marga. No I don't have a Ramakrishna Mission bookstore near my area. What do you need? I can be resourceful. Correct Knowledge«৳alk» 06:03, 14 December 2012 (UTC)
Thanks
Thanks for the recognition for the work in Tripura. I hope to place it in FA candidacy sometime soon, but not sure exactly when. There are many real life commitments, and also multiple plans for wikipedia articles ( such as FACs on Independence Day, Mother India, eventually Kahaani; some GA reviews). It's all messed up.--Dwaipayan (talk) 04:36, 17 December 2012 (UTC)
Please have a look at this article! Do you think it might be DYK ready with the hook Did you know Khandana Bhava–Bandhana the Hindu prayer song was composed by Swami Vivekananda. That hook has a book source and Gujarat Government source in support --Tito Dutta (talk) 23:25, 17 December 2012 (UTC)
- I was too fast here it seems after not getting your reply after seeing you are editing those Ananda Marga articles, BTW, I have reverted my transclusion and you can work on it. And usual, I give you full 7 out of 7 days to work on. We might have another interesting DYK opportunity ahead (no, not Vivekananda, new one). Please comment on Swami Vivekananda 1893 Parliament article, can you slightly expand the "Impact" and "Paper on Hinuism" sections so that we can take it forward for DYK for now (later it will need expansion, newspaper coverages, criticism, response in India etc)! --Tito Dutta (talk) 07:27, 18 December 2012 (UTC)
yoga
What is your objection to a classification scheme employed by the foremost authority on yoga in the English speaking world? 81.106.127.14 (talk) 08:32, 18 December 2012 (UTC)
- I have no objection. Just don't place it in the lead. Lead of an article has to summarize and introduce the topic. Lists are completely inappropriate there. Besides, you'll notice all the yogas you mentioned are covered in the body of the article, in a chronological order. You can add your content there if you want or in Hindu philosophy#Yoga. It's up to you.
- Correct Knowledge«৳alk» 08:39, 18 December 2012 (UTC)
- Hi Correct, I put back the edit by the IP (above), and restored the blanked info in the edit before it. I am no expert on the subject of yoga, but reading your response to the IP, I can understand your reasoning. I won't touch the page further. If the info was good, maybe you could move it to the appropriate section, instead of deleting it. Thanks, Hamamelis (talk) 08:48, 18 December 2012 (UTC)
FAC
Ya, good idea, go ahead, also mention the date, 150th birth celebration importance (that event was so important that they made a special world conference in 2012 to commemorate Swami Vivekananda's birth anniversary (see in official website). --Tito Dutta (talk) 12:22, 18 December 2012 (UTC)
Swami Vivekananda FA
- Talkback mesage: Dwaipayan
Yes, go ahead and nominate that DYK. Can we please make Swami Vivekananda article a featured article on 12 January? There are 1-2 citation need tags. Simple ones, you can find citation in simple Google Book search, can you please add those citations. Some copyedits are to be done to avoid close paraphrasing issue which was an issue of GA. Any suggestion? --Tito Dutta (talk) 08:21, 17 December 2012 (UTC)
- BTW, that is Vivekananda's 150th birth anniversary! --Tito Dutta (talk) 08:23, 17 December 2012 (UTC)
- FARs take time. Independence Day (India) was operating on a very similar time frame and yet no significant comments had poured into the FAR before 15th August. Let's wait and see what other editors have to say about the idea here. The three of us can always try, but if most editors at WT:IN are negative, we'd be better off with trying for a series of DYKs around that date. Correct Knowledge«৳alk» 09:19, 17 December 2012 (UTC)
- I do not have much hope from others (as I am growing older I am getting more pessimistic on it). No one helps each other (not only here (though Wikipedia is relatively better, everywhere). Or human instinct? Name, fame, popularity, praises! Read Vivekananda's frog story. I'll be busy with this article Swami Vivekananda at the Parliament of the World's Religions (1893) (though I'll check FA related comments too). Read here The Parliament commemorated Swamiji's arrival. Anyway, it might be a good DYK candidate. I'll add newspaper coverages, aftermaths or commemorations later, but, after making the basic structure. Feel free to edit the articles or you handle one or two subsections for now, that'll be excellent! You can take the baton to nominate for DYK. --Tito Dutta (talk) 09:38, 17 December 2012 (UTC)
- 12 Jan is a very unlikely. The citation needed or such maintenance tags are easy to address. Main problem remains the close paraphrasing. If that can be dealt with, the article can straight be nominated for FA. --Dwaipayan (talk) 16:01, 17 December 2012 (UTC)
- I do not have much hope from others (as I am growing older I am getting more pessimistic on it). No one helps each other (not only here (though Wikipedia is relatively better, everywhere). Or human instinct? Name, fame, popularity, praises! Read Vivekananda's frog story. I'll be busy with this article Swami Vivekananda at the Parliament of the World's Religions (1893) (though I'll check FA related comments too). Read here The Parliament commemorated Swamiji's arrival. Anyway, it might be a good DYK candidate. I'll add newspaper coverages, aftermaths or commemorations later, but, after making the basic structure. Feel free to edit the articles or you handle one or two subsections for now, that'll be excellent! You can take the baton to nominate for DYK. --Tito Dutta (talk) 09:38, 17 December 2012 (UTC)
- FARs take time. Independence Day (India) was operating on a very similar time frame and yet no significant comments had poured into the FAR before 15th August. Let's wait and see what other editors have to say about the idea here. The three of us can always try, but if most editors at WT:IN are negative, we'd be better off with trying for a series of DYKs around that date. Correct Knowledge«৳alk» 09:19, 17 December 2012 (UTC)
Hey, don't expand Teaching section, the main article is already linked. you can rewrite those 4 points mentioned there and in the main article Teachings and philosophy of Swami Vivekananda, please expand the "Mind" section! I'll see that teaming up later, or is it urgent? --Tito Dutta (talk) 08:51, 18 December 2012 (UTC)
- Take up one idea. Make that one idea your life - think of it, dream of it, live on that idea. Let the brain, muscles, nerves, every part of your body, be full of that idea, and just leave every other idea alone. This is the way to success, that is way great spiritual giants are produced. Arise, awake and stop not till the goal is reached. --Tito Dutta (talk) 09:45, 18 December 2012 (UTC)
- Find citations in Google search. --Tito Dutta (talk) 09:50, 18 December 2012 (UTC)
- He said this on finding background context. That's your goal, take up that goal! Please check the latest edits of Swami Vivekananda article. --Tito Dutta (talk) 09:59, 18 December 2012 (UTC)
- Which context? And that Arise awake is actually Upanishadic quote! --Tito Dutta (talk) 10:01, 18 December 2012 (UTC)
- I could not find anything else! --Tito Dutta (talk) 12:13, 18 December 2012 (UTC)
- Well ! I can vote with you people on Swami Vivekanand any where, but I am slow on computer. Trying to improve. Please tell me when you need help.Sudhirkbhargava (talk) 15:56, 18 December 2012 (UTC)
- I could not find anything else! --Tito Dutta (talk) 12:13, 18 December 2012 (UTC)
- Which context? And that Arise awake is actually Upanishadic quote! --Tito Dutta (talk) 10:01, 18 December 2012 (UTC)
- He said this on finding background context. That's your goal, take up that goal! Please check the latest edits of Swami Vivekananda article. --Tito Dutta (talk) 09:59, 18 December 2012 (UTC)
- Find citations in Google search. --Tito Dutta (talk) 09:50, 18 December 2012 (UTC)
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- Dwaipayan's talk page, User_talk:Dwaipayanc --Tito Dutta (talk) 14:10, 18 December 2012 (UTC)
- That DYK hook looks good! In the reviewed section add this and mention "reviewed by nominator"! --Tito Dutta (talk) 16:10, 18 December 2012 (UTC)
- I mean reviewed by creator.. and ad the club location.. European club.. where? --Tito Dutta (talk) 16:12, 18 December 2012 (UTC)
- That DYK hook looks good! In the reviewed section add this and mention "reviewed by nominator"! --Tito Dutta (talk) 16:10, 18 December 2012 (UTC)
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New message on FA review..
User_talk:Shrikanthv#Notice.21_.28For_undiscussed_approaches.29 --Tito Dutta (talk) 15:10, 19 December 2012 (UTC)
- I have replied at Shrikanth's talk page. Correct Knowledge«৳alk» 15:55, 19 December 2012 (UTC)
- Some citation works to be done! --Tito Dutta (talk) 15:57, 19 December 2012 (UTC)
- See Khandana Bhava Bandhana.. nomination! --Tito Dutta (talk) 10:45, 20 December 2012 (UTC)
- Have taken a look, it looks alright. Correct Knowledge«৳alk» 12:31, 20 December 2012 (UTC)
- See Khandana Bhava Bandhana.. nomination! --Tito Dutta (talk) 10:45, 20 December 2012 (UTC)
- Some citation works to be done! --Tito Dutta (talk) 15:57, 19 December 2012 (UTC)
India DNA
Sorry but I really do not have the time needed for this type of discussion. My advice is to take your time on the talk page and go one by one through the individual changes you want, showing them to everyone before you do them, and asking for feedback. Please also show that you are genuinely reading the feedback and trying to take into account. Slowing things down and being a bit more polite than you might think should be necessary is often a good way to avoid the types of problems this article has. It can be tedious, but it often works.--Andrew Lancaster (talk) 14:30, 21 December 2012 (UTC)
DYK Pritilata Waddedar
Hello! Your submission of Pritilata Waddedar at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and some issues with it may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know!
- Yes, please see this when you are back (27 Dec?)! --Tito Dutta (talk) 06:29, 28 December 2012 (UTC)
DYK nomination of Bibliography of Swami Vivekananda
Hello! Your submission of Bibliography of Swami Vivekananda at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and some issues with it may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! BlueMoonset (talk) 15:33, 30 December 2012 (UTC)
A Suitable Novel
Hi CorrectKnowledge. I've actually read it twice. I started reading it for a third time, but gave up when I realised that no matter how many times I re-read it, Latha still wouldn't end up marrying Kabir. --Shirt58 (talk) 09:24, 2 January 2013 (UTC)
Lord Rama's Birth Details.JPG
I have uploaded a photograph related to details of Lord Rama's Birth Date at Wiki Commons. Somebody has objected to it and has called for its deletion. Picture is already put up at pages RAMA, RAMAYANA and AYODHYA. I have explained the facts. Please look in to this.Sudhirkbhargava (talk) 04:36, 5 January 2013 (UTC)
Bengali films
That issue still persists. Can you provide some time there? --Tito Dutta (talk) 16:13, 8 January 2013 (UTC)
- Are you talking about Cinema of West Bengal? The article looks fine on a cursory glance. Correct Knowledge«৳alk» 16:33, 8 January 2013 (UTC)
- Talkback template? Ignore that Cornellius's discussion! That's nothing, dear CK's iExpand, no one is attacking, relax! I was talking about Wikipedia:Administrators'_noticeboard/IncidentArchive772#Newly_released_Bengali_commercial_.28masala.29_films, I had to go to ANI once again. --Tito Dutta (talk) 16:39, 8 January 2013 (UTC)
- Is there something wrong in the formatting or your signature? My first sentence got broken! And using Assamese/Bengali script? --Tito Dutta (talk) 16:41, 8 January 2013 (UTC)
- My signature also comes in an alternate version, if you need it. :) Let that discussion go, the advisory note was necessary. You're involvement is escalating the situation. Correct Knowledge«৳alk» 17:11, 8 January 2013 (UTC)
- Bengali movies? --Tito Dutta (talk) 17:40, 8 January 2013 (UTC)
- Even admins could not do anything about it. How can I help? I have reverted two unsourced changes to box office figures: [1][2]. Correct Knowledge«৳alk» 17:42, 8 January 2013 (UTC)
Did you notice...
this DYK was rejected? --Tito Dutta (talk) 17:53, 9 January 2013 (UTC)
- This was my mistake. I should have checked the prose size before nominating it. We could have added content after it was reviewed, but it was rejected too quickly. Unfortunate. Is there any other Swami Vivekananda DYK you are working on? Correct Knowledge«৳alk» 18:09, 9 January 2013 (UTC)
- Very unfortunate. I did not even bookmark the page, just learned. Your Pritilata Waddedar hook is also fixed. Yes, that Khandana Bhava–Bandhana is ready and accepted, trying to have it on 12 Jan's main page! --Tito Dutta (talk) 18:58, 9 January 2013 (UTC)
- It's nice to know that Wikipedia will have something on January 12th. I have watchlisted the page, just in case Crisco forgets to promote it. :) Correct Knowledge«৳alk» 19:05, 9 January 2013 (UTC)
- Very unfortunate. I did not even bookmark the page, just learned. Your Pritilata Waddedar hook is also fixed. Yes, that Khandana Bhava–Bandhana is ready and accepted, trying to have it on 12 Jan's main page! --Tito Dutta (talk) 18:58, 9 January 2013 (UTC)
DYK for Pritilata Waddedar
On 10 January 2013, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Pritilata Waddedar, which you recently nominated. The fact was ... that Pritilata Waddedar led an attack on the Pahartali European Club, which displayed a sign saying "Dogs and Indians not allowed"? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Pritilata Waddedar. You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, quick check) and it will be added to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page. |
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FYI
Tripura is in FAC. The first user to comment in the FAC appears to be interested in the article, so he is helping out :)--Dwaipayan (talk) 20:52, 12 January 2013 (UTC)
Ayurveda article
Thanks for your excellent input on the Talk page of the Ayurveda article. I'm glad you were able to finally explain why the proposed material was problematic and that you pointed the editor in a positive direction. TimidGuy (talk) 15:44, 5 January 2013 (UTC)
- And thanks for the barnstar. : ) The editor has now added information to the Ayurveda article dating the Rig Veda to 10,000 years ago. I find this fascinating, but I've opened a discussion at the reliable sources noticeboard[3] to see whether this conference presentation can be considered a reliable source. TimidGuy (talk) 12:11, 8 January 2013 (UTC)
- Thanks for the note. Now that ItsMeJudith has commented, I think the consensus is pretty clearly against the source. No one has supported it, and four editors have said it's noncompliant. TimidGuy (talk) 15:52, 13 January 2013 (UTC)
Vivekananda's ancestral house which might be another DYK candidate. What do you think? Can you please incorporate 2-3 lines from this article in History section and make some copyedit? I have also something to discuss on our next article creations etc!--Tito Dutta (talk) 23:08, 12 January 2013 (UTC)
- At 1844 characters the DYK looks good to go. I have copy–edited the article and added a line from the press release. Correct Knowledge«৳alk» 12:03, 13 January 2013 (UTC)
- I have not seen my watchlist still. Abhivedananda found that article too and made some changes (I was those edits this morning, after that I have not seen any recent edit still). I have added your name here in the creator's list Template:Did you know nominations/Ramakrishna Mission Swami Vivekananda's Ancestral House and Cultural Centre.
- Did president Kalam inaugurate the museum? In the hook please see if "is the birthplace" or "was the birthplace" sounds better! --Tito Dutta (talk) 19:06, 13 January 2013 (UTC)
- Thank you for adding my name. "Is the birthplace" sounds better of the two. Don't know if Kalam inaugurated museum also, the source only mentions the inauguration of the cultural centre. Looks like Redtigerxyz has already given it a green tick. Correct Knowledge«৳alk» 19:12, 13 January 2013 (UTC)
Re: Ananda Marga and Purulia arms drop
Yes, you can add if you have RS in hand and those should go in controversy section! --Tito Dutta (talk) 01:35, 17 January 2013 (UTC)
- Only one comment. most probably you know I had faced a very hard time to bring Prabhat Ranjan Sarkar article in shape. I do trust on your edit, but, please edit carefully so that it does not become a warfield . --Tito Dutta (talk) 01:47, 17 January 2013 (UTC)
- Alright! Ananda Marga (article) needs some copyedit, the biographical article is more or less in stable condition ( at least was a couple of days ago)--Tito Dutta (talk) 01:53, 17 January 2013 (UTC)
- Which browser are you using? Firefox? --Tito Dutta (talk) 02:02, 17 January 2013 (UTC)
- Use this addon. You'll be able quickly add your alternative signature by one (right) click. Save the signature draft in this format [[User:CorrectKnowledge|'''Correct Knowledge'''</font>]][[User_talk:CorrectKnowledge|<font style="color:#167FF7;background:white;font-family:sans-serif;"><sup>«৳alk»</sup></font>]] ~~~~~ (not 5 tildes) --Tito Dutta (talk) 02:13, 17 January 2013 (UTC)
- Alright! Ananda Marga (article) needs some copyedit, the biographical article is more or less in stable condition ( at least was a couple of days ago)--Tito Dutta (talk) 01:53, 17 January 2013 (UTC)
- Which is much easier? Ya, Paste email is much easier. I once used to add "Thank you four tildes" too using this app. --Tito Dutta (talk) 02:18, 17 January 2013 (UTC)
Vedic Period
Hi ! I would like to know a bit more on why Rigveda is timed as 7000 years ago and not 10,000 years ago, which has contributions from Bhrigu Rishi as well, who was a contemporary of Manu and both constituted Manusmriti. Needless to say, Manu, the flood figure had existed at the time of great floods during holocene period 10-12,500 years ago and has wide mentions in Skanda Purana, Manusmriti, Mahabharata, Iranian book AVESTA and many websites. There are many citations from researchers, specially geologists that Saraswati river had flown close to Aravalies on western side along the borders of what was called Brahmavarta state. Palaeochannel maps also confirm the same. The whole dating of Vedas, Manusmriti, Vedic Saraswati river are not proper. New researches show that Mehrgarh in Pakistan had habitations 9500 years ago. They had used copper beads also. One of the main sources of Copper for Harrapan people was Khetri Copper Mines, part of Vedic Brahmavarta state. People had migrated from Brahmavarta state taking with them the Copper technology and regular supplies of Copper at later periods too. So reconsider the whole situation. Sudhirkbhargava (talk) 08:48, 8 December 2012 (UTC)
- What you have written above looks like original research based upon primary sources. Do you have any reliable historical sources which say that Rig Veda is 10,000 years old? Let me suggest a popular history textbook by an Indian author: A History of Ancient and Early Medieval India: From the Stone Age to the 12th Century by Upinder Singh. P. 185 contains a succinct analysis of the various theories on the date of Rig Veda. In the concluding paragraph, Singh gives reasons for why very early dates for Rig Veda are impossible. Please read it and if you have reliable sources for earlier dates of Rig Veda, feel free to share them with me. Regards. Correct Knowledge«৳alk» 12:41, 8 December 2012 (UTC)
- I have gone through the book. It mentions about Mehergarh's antiquity which is 9500 years old. Regarding Rigveda, it is her opinion. She has not taken in to account the Rishi clans who contributed to Rigveda, their Ashrams, the place of its writing and many other factual details which you consider 'mythology'. I feel that all what is written in Sanskrit books does not fall in the category of mythology. There are many locations which can be identified as per descriptions in sanskrit books. They are scientific evidences. Palaeochannels images, by ISRO, NASA, ARIANA and others now show the route of Vedic Saraswati clearly and lakes on the route. Location of Vedic state of Brahmavarta is unfolding many facts about Vedic Sanskriti. If you can go through page on 'Dhosi Hil', there are some references on antiquity of Vedic period. Let me get some more facts, before I communicate with you again.
- Sudhirkbhargava (talk) 14:17, 8 December 2012 (UTC)
- Take your time. There is no deadline anyway. Correct Knowledge«৳alk» 08:46, 9 December 2012 (UTC)
- One of the references of antiquity of 'Vedic age' or 'Vedic period' which is 10.000-8000 B.P., can be found in a research paper you can find on Scribe also, is by ISRO scientists J.R.Sharma and B.K.Bhadra, Depatt. of Space (GOI),CAZRI Campus, Jodhpur-342003. In an International Conference (Nov.20-22, 2009) at Kurukshetra University on the topic, "Sarasvati River-a perspective", the researchers while discussing Saraswati river palaeochannels talk about its antiquity of Vedic age as 10,000-8,000 BP.
- in the same conference, I, Sudhir Bhargava also presented a paper 'Location of Brahmvrat and Drishadwati River is important to find earliest alignment of Saraswati river" As mentioned above, my researches on Brahmavarta state confirm stoutly that Vedic Sanskriti is that old. Flood period I talked above was beginning of holocene period, 10,000 years ago when Vedic Rishis Manu and Bhrigu existed and contributed to many Vedic scriptures. Floods are mentioned in Matsayapurana, Skandpurana, Manusmriti, Shathapatha Brahmna, Mahabharta. What surprises me is the logic given by contributors on wikipedia dating Vedic Sanskriti 1700-1100 BCE. There is no basis at all of this dating on various pages and needs change. Also the Granths mentioned above may not be 100 % true, because they were carried verbly for a long time, but now scientific analysis confirm that many things are true and every thing does not fall under mythology.
- Sudhirkbhargava (talk) 15:55, 9 December 2012 (UTC)
- I found the organizer's invitation and the compilation of contributions to the conference. While the conference has a member each from the ISRO, ASI, GSI, the compilation doesn't appear to be an academic, peer-reviewed publication. WP:REDFLAG suggests— Any exceptional claim requires multiple high-quality sources. Since the claim you are making contradicts the scholarly opinion presented in most modern tertiary references (that Vedic period came after the Indus Valley Civilization), it requires better sources. I found another paper by B. K. Bhadra and J. R. Sharma here. The claims in this paper are that Vedic Saraswati originated between 6000–3000 BCE. However, this paper has been blasted by K. K. Sharma (here) as a passionately written print media news article rather than a scientific reporting [sic]. Basically, to make a case for earlier dates of Rig Veda, we need multiple sources which have been vetted by the scholarly community and are regarded as reliable. Correct Knowledge«৳alk» 03:20, 10 December 2012 (UTC)
- Take your time. There is no deadline anyway. Correct Knowledge«৳alk» 08:46, 9 December 2012 (UTC)
- To continue discussions on antiquity of Vedic period, I would request you to go through information which I have posted on page 'Ayurveda' during last week. Thanks !Sudhirkbhargava (talk) 15:53, 29 December 2012 (UTC)
- I have added Talk:Ayurveda to my watchlist and will comment on the ongoing discussion. Correct Knowledge«৳alk» 18:11, 3 January 2013 (UTC)
- Another discussion regarding early dates of Vedic period took place at WP:RSN#Conference presentation as source in article on Ayurveda. Correct Knowledge«৳alk» 22:35, 17 January 2013 (UTC)
- I have added Talk:Ayurveda to my watchlist and will comment on the ongoing discussion. Correct Knowledge«৳alk» 18:11, 3 January 2013 (UTC)
Yoga
Thankyou for your support CorrectKnowledge. I take back my outburst and thank you for not warning me!! It was frustrating to see my edit reverted for the third straight time, especially when I'm sure the content is correct. I apologize. JamesBWatson had a point to make, but perhaps valid only in the context of Yoga and few other words, but certainly not for the loads of others, few of which I had mentioned in the edit you undid. Thankyou for providing the link concerning broader India-related discussions; will certainly put a section regarding wrong pronunciation on it! Hoping to get your support in all ethical manner. --therash09 (talk) 22:56, 17 January 2013 (UTC)
- Never mind, everyone needs to let off steam sometimes. :) I will participate in the discussion at WT:IN. Editors far more experienced than me in these matters will comment there. Let's see how they feel about your proposal. Correct Knowledge«৳alk» 23:03, 17 January 2013 (UTC)
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...on this article Asaram Bapu --Tito Dutta (talk) 18:12, 19 January 2013 (UTC)
- I have added this to the watchlist though I don't see a lot of reason for concern. Many other active editors are also watching this page and making appropriate reverts. Correct Knowledge«৳alk» 13:43, 20 January 2013 (UTC)
- Ya, had to report at noticeboard! --Tito Dutta (talk) 00:46, 21 January 2013 (UTC)
- I have added this to the watchlist though I don't see a lot of reason for concern. Many other active editors are also watching this page and making appropriate reverts. Correct Knowledge«৳alk» 13:43, 20 January 2013 (UTC)
DYK for Ramakrishna Mission Swami Vivekananda's Ancestral House and Cultural Centre
On 20 January 2013, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Ramakrishna Mission Swami Vivekananda's Ancestral House and Cultural Centre, which you created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that 3 Gourmohan Mukherjee Street, Kolkata, is the birthplace of Indian monk Swami Vivekananda? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Ramakrishna Mission Swami Vivekananda's Ancestral House and Cultural Centre. You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, quick check) and it will be added to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page. |
Tito Dutta (talk) 09:11, 20 January 2013 (UTC)
- Than you for the information. I would have definitely missed this since I almost never watch the main page. Correct Knowledge«৳alk» 13:43, 20 January 2013 (UTC)
- I regularly make blunders when I add contributor's name later and they don't notify the contributor! Don't know what goes wrong! --Tito Dutta (talk) 03:20, 21 January 2013 (UTC)
- Than you for the information. I would have definitely missed this since I almost never watch the main page. Correct Knowledge«৳alk» 13:43, 20 January 2013 (UTC)
Any other...
...DYK plan? Any article on Rig Veda sukta or something so? --Tito Dutta (talk) 03:19, 21 January 2013 (UTC)
- Ramanandi Sampradaya has been expanded 5 times. Have a look at it and if possible work your magic on it (all the corrections, infoboxes etc.). I'll try to add more content by tonight. Correct Knowledge«৳alk» 03:21, 21 January 2013 (UTC)
- Those templates might be an issue! Start an article... --Tito Dutta (talk) 03:31, 21 January 2013 (UTC)
- Start an article on what? Do you mean I should nominate it already? I'll nominate it today after I've fixed a few issues. Correct Knowledge«৳alk» 03:35, 21 January 2013 (UTC)
- Yes, start an article on anything. --Tito Dutta (talk) 03:39, 21 January 2013 (UTC)
- Can't think of anything right now. Do you have any ideas? Correct Knowledge«৳alk» 03:44, 21 January 2013 (UTC)
- Yes, Rig Veda, Sama Veda sukta.. I have started Stri Parva which does not seem to fit as a DYK candidate! Start on those suktas! --Tito Dutta (talk) 03:59, 21 January 2013 (UTC)
- Can't think of anything right now. Do you have any ideas? Correct Knowledge«৳alk» 03:44, 21 January 2013 (UTC)
- Those templates might be an issue! Start an article... --Tito Dutta (talk) 03:31, 21 January 2013 (UTC)
Asaram Bapu Cont
... reported at Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Naveentirthani --Tito Dutta (talk) 16:44, 21 January 2013 (UTC)
- I was thinking about doing the same. Asking for a semi–protection for a month at least would also help. Correct Knowledge«৳alk» 16:45, 21 January 2013 (UTC)
- Done that too! --Tito Dutta (talk) 16:47, 21 January 2013 (UTC)
- I have supported your semi–protection request. Looks like the IPs are at it again. It's hopeless. Correct Knowledge«৳alk» 17:09, 21 January 2013 (UTC)
- Their edit is slightly better this time. Revert all, we have a good point in hand, see my posts here! --Tito Dutta (talk) 17:14, 21 January 2013 (UTC)
- I am waiting for them to finish editing. If I revert now I will be at 4R very soon. Correct Knowledge«৳alk» 17:17, 21 January 2013 (UTC)
- Hm, problem! I have done many reverts too in last few days. I asked in BLPN twice. No reply there still! --Tito Dutta (talk) 17:22, 21 January 2013 (UTC)
- I am waiting for them to finish editing. If I revert now I will be at 4R very soon. Correct Knowledge«৳alk» 17:17, 21 January 2013 (UTC)
- Their edit is slightly better this time. Revert all, we have a good point in hand, see my posts here! --Tito Dutta (talk) 17:14, 21 January 2013 (UTC)
- I have supported your semi–protection request. Looks like the IPs are at it again. It's hopeless. Correct Knowledge«৳alk» 17:09, 21 January 2013 (UTC)
- Now see Asaram Bapu. I am again at 3RR. I have mentioned about Ankush's recent edit at talk and reported to AIV too etc. --Tito Dutta (talk) 05:14, 22 January 2013 (UTC)
Do you have any planning to join the course? I can be your trainer. Though I don't think it'll take a long time to finish the course! --Tito Dutta (talk) 17:25, 21 January 2013 (UTC)
- Yes this course could be useful. I'll ask you in another week or so when I have more free time to learn and practice new skills on WP. Correct Knowledge«৳alk» 17:29, 21 January 2013 (UTC)
- Please note per this request I have added the rollback flag to your account (as seen in this log). If you have any questions find me on my talk page! ·Add§hore· Talk To Me! 23:58, 21 January 2013 (UTC)
- Thanks for the rollback. I am still getting used to it. Correct Knowledge«৳alk» 01:38, 22 January 2013 (UTC)
- Excellent! Few points to remember:
- Rollback should be used for clear case of vandalism, don't use rollback in edit warring, content dispute
- Don't use Rollback as your computer/internet is slow and Twinkle is not loading.
- Don't use rollback (better don't use Wikipedia, specially the watchlist) when you are using software like "Autoclicker" or "Random clicker"
- (my personal suggestion) Don't use rollback from watchlist. There is a script I used to hide all rollback links from watchlist.
- Rollback reverts vandalism, does not find it. If you need some vandal edits to test rollback, use tool like Huggle or STiki to find disruptive edits.
- Last (again), don't use rollback in edit warring! --Tito Dutta (talk) 03:41, 22 January 2013 (UTC)
- And I saw Wikipedia's own rollback etc testing page somewhere. I forgot the exact page, but, I think you can find that! --Tito Dutta (talk) 03:52, 22 January 2013 (UTC)
- Thanks for the rollback. I am still getting used to it. Correct Knowledge«৳alk» 01:38, 22 January 2013 (UTC)
- Please note per this request I have added the rollback flag to your account (as seen in this log). If you have any questions find me on my talk page! ·Add§hore· Talk To Me! 23:58, 21 January 2013 (UTC)
- Go here, copy paste this code:
.mw-special-Watchlist .mw-rollback-link {
display: none;
}
Save changes! --Tito Dutta (talk) 03:37, 23 January 2013 (UTC)
Requested deletion
... here. I have mentioned Don't know, might be difficult too! He says "India is cancer"! --Tito Dutta (talk) 18:49, 24 January 2013 (UTC)
- .... and here too. I have nominated 3 works in Wikiversity, you can nominate others too in the same page (using h3 headers)! --Tito Dutta (talk) 19:14, 24 January 2013 (UTC)
- Okay! --Tito Dutta (talk) 20:08, 24 January 2013 (UTC)
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Progressive utilization theory
FYI: Per your previous involvement in the discussion, I thought you might be interested in commenting in Talk:Progressive utilization theory#Proposal to replace current content. Thanks! Location (talk) 22:55, 24 January 2013 (UTC)
- FYI: An alternative proposal has been offered at Talk:Progressive utilization theory#Proposal to integrate the secondary material collected by Location into the current article. Thanks again! Location (talk) 22:26, 27 January 2013 (UTC)
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Sockpuppets
You've had a busy day... Quite a lot of pages popping up at my watchlist. Greetings, Joshua Jonathan -Let's talk! 07:30, 1 February 2013 (UTC)
- This is the second time I've had to clean up after the sockmaster. It's the same sockmaster whose discussions I've hatted in Talk:Advaita Vedanta. Speaking of which, I realize you've new unanswered messages there. I'll try to reply ASAP. Correct Knowledge«৳alk» 15:31, 1 February 2013 (UTC)
A barnstar for you!
The Reference Desk Barnstar | ||
Thank you so much for answering this question. Hope you have a great day.···Vanischenu「m/Talk」 09:54, 2 February 2013 (UTC) |
- Thank you. Credit goes to you for watching that page tenaciously to help anyone in need. I'm glad I could contribute. Correct Knowledge«৳alk» 22:52, 2 February 2013 (UTC)
Requesting third opinion on Brahman
Hi CorrectKnowledge. Could you please give your opinion on the lead of Brahman? Joshua Jonathan -Let's talk! 05:07, 3 February 2013 (UTC)
- When secondary sources contradict each other, like in this case (assuming Radhakrishnan and Flood differ from others), tertiary sources can be helpful. On a cursory glance of Britannica, Merriam-Webster's Encyclopedia of World Religions, Encyclopedia of World Religions and Encyclopedia of Hinduism your version of the lead seems more appropriate (and none of them use the word "spirit"). It looks like the edit war has been resolved. However, if a detailed comment from me is still required let me know. Regards. Correct Knowledge«৳alk» 22:46, 5 February 2013 (UTC)
- Hi CorrectKnowledge. Thanks for responding. Things were becoming quite nasty the past few days; but it also turned out (again) that it's good that Wikipedia is a co-project, in which editors monitor each other. I'll copy your response to the Brahman-talkpage, as a reference for other interested readers. Greetings, Joshua Jonathan -Let's talk! 05:53, 6 February 2013 (UTC)
Ratha Kalpana
Hi! Please help on the article Rathakalpana. The topic is mentioned in Kathopanishad and Bhagavat Gita, but i think it has more scope as an independent article. There are many modern theories based on this, along with our ancient concepts on yogasuthras and mind-body co-ordinations. Please help finding sources and developing the topic. bc-ndra (talk) 06:22, 5 February 2013 (UTC)
- I have done what I can. Some sentences of the background section could be original research. If so, you might have to rewrite those parts from reliable sources. Overall I think this article has potential to feature as a DYK. Correct Knowledge«৳alk» 22:32, 5 February 2013 (UTC)
Thanks!!! Expect such helps in future too. bc-ndra (talk) 07:07, 6 February 2013 (UTC)
Review on hold
Here Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Rathakalpana --Tito Dutta (talk) 08:08, 6 February 2013 (UTC)
DYK
Thank you for your contributions and keen interest in the topic. As per your suggestion, I have put it on DYK. Please help me, especially with the 'hook'. See Template:Did you know nominations/Ratha Kalpana. bc-ndra (talk) 11:12, 7 February 2013 (UTC)
Thanks
Thanks for this . I have taken it to my talk page now--sarvajna (talk) 06:32, 8 February 2013 (UTC)
- Actually, I had dropped by your talk page to let you know you had run into socks in the articles on Charminar/Bhagyalakshmi temple. I dropped the idea when I saw that you were involved in an ongoing discussion related to these articles on your talk page. If you are curious just check the usage of the word "Vendalism" (note the spelling and capitalization) in the edit summaries of both articles. There are other similarities as well. It's quacking pretty loud to me, up to you to file an SPI. Correct Knowledge«৳alk» 14:03, 8 February 2013 (UTC)
- Yes I had guessed that even I had seen the spelling of Vendalism. Hoodedemperor and BareDevil looks like the same person. However I did not had the energy/time to file a SPI. Is there an ongoing SPI? --sarvajna (talk) 15:26, 8 February 2013 (UTC)
- Not that I'm aware of. I don't see the editor disrupting much outside the two articles, but filing an SPI might be sensible if the editor tries to bait you into a 3RR or WP:EW violation. As I said, it's up to you. Correct Knowledge«৳alk» 16:22, 8 February 2013 (UTC)
- Yes I had guessed that even I had seen the spelling of Vendalism. Hoodedemperor and BareDevil looks like the same person. However I did not had the energy/time to file a SPI. Is there an ongoing SPI? --sarvajna (talk) 15:26, 8 February 2013 (UTC)
Hello
Hi CK, how are you? Remember me ?
We have not interacted in a long time. I am here to tell you that I saw you comments here and very much appreciated your input. Now as it seems it has reached a deadlock and needs to be wrapped up. Since you were involved in the discussion already, would you like to put forth your opinion clearly for the final time here? and if you can please also speak your mind here. Thanks a lot. ——Mr T(Talk?) (New thread?) 16:06, 9 February 2013 (UTC)
- It's nice to hear from you after a long time. I notice your edit count has gone up from 4000 to 17000 and you've gone from Mrt to Mr. T. Well Mr. T anything else I can help you with? Correct Knowledge«৳alk» 22:54, 9 February 2013 (UTC)
Regarding WP:NPA
I AM NOT ATTACKING THE 'EDITOR' PER SE BUT HIS ACTIONS............WHICH ARE MOSTLY SELF INDULGENT.............AND EGO MOTIVATED — Preceding unsigned comment added by Aoclery (talk • contribs) 17:40, 12 February 2013 (UTC)
- Then provide diffs and your reasons for disagreeing with the editor's actions on their talk page rather than commenting on the their intentions and motivations. Correct Knowledge«৳alk» 17:45, 12 February 2013 (UTC)
DYK for Ratha Kalpana
On 13 February 2013, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Ratha Kalpana, which you created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that Ratha Kalpana is a metaphor used in Hindu scriptures to describe the relationship between the senses, mind, intellect and Self? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Ratha Kalpana. You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, quick check) and it will be added to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page. |
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DYK for Gurudas Banerjee
Hello CorrectKnowledge, thanks for reviewing the DYK proposal HERE for Gurudas Banerjee. I have now responded. I will aim to stay tuned in case more is needed. Thanks again for having responded to my time-valued plea. -- Presearch (talk) 17:03, 16 February 2013 (UTC)
- I have responded to your comment at the nomination. I don't see any more problems with the article. Correct Knowledge«৳alk» 17:21, 16 February 2013 (UTC)
Amrutanubhav
Hi. The line after Amrutanubhav at the Dnyaneshwar refers to Amrutanubhav, so when this work is removed, the following (sub)section has to be edited too. Greetings, Joshua Jonathan -Let's talk! 21:55, 19 February 2013 (UTC)
- Yes, that was a mistake. I was in a hurry to remove all unsourced content before I started working on this. I am planning to work on this article over the next few days. Correct Knowledge«৳alk» 22:00, 19 February 2013 (UTC)
- Never mind. I thought I would let you do your work, instead of messing-up with the follow-up sentences. Undoing was the easiest step to take. Greetings, Joshua Jonathan -Let's talk! 22:03, 19 February 2013 (UTC)
Hi, Thanks a lot for taking up the review. I have addressed the initial set of comments. I will continue posting updates on review comments in the GA page. Ssriram mt (talk) 11:58, 24 February 2013 (UTC)
Hinduism
I had added Manusmriti among the list of major scriptures of Hinduism on that page which you deleted. Cuold you tell me why ? Is Manusmriti not a scripture of Hinduism ? Sudhirkbhargava (talk) 10:11, 24 February 2013 (UTC)
- Other than the Mahābhārata, Rāmāyaṇa and Bhagavad Gītā (which are obviously important), all the scriptures mentioned in the lead are a collection of works (such as the Upanishads) rather individual books. Please share your reasons for including a single book like Manusmriti in the lead at Talk:Hinduism. If you can reach a consensus for this inclusion, I'll have no further objections. Correct Knowledge«৳alk» 04:53, 25 February 2013 (UTC)
Ballot stuffing
I noticed your comments here and here about "ballot stuffing". FYI: I also saw this done here, as well as here by the newer meatpuppet. If WP:BLUDGEON wasn't a big enough issue, now we have WP:GAME to contend with. Location (talk) 21:23, 18 February 2013 (UTC)
- The previous SPI was closed with a view to "consider these edits later on if more evidence surfaces that they are working in concert". Maybe it is time to file another SPI regarding this. FWIW, I don't think this is meatpuppetry for reasons I'll give later. It appears to be sockpuppetry using a proxy server or a VPN in both the cases. Correct Knowledge«৳alk» 21:33, 18 February 2013 (UTC)
- Your call. I don't know or understand the tech aspects of all of this. I'll keep an eye on that, though. Location (talk) 21:39, 18 February 2013 (UTC)
- A similar discussion took place at User talk:Dougweller#NB. You should air your views there before we file a report. I'll also try to chip in. Correct Knowledge«৳alk» 21:42, 18 February 2013 (UTC)
- Your call. I don't know or understand the tech aspects of all of this. I'll keep an eye on that, though. Location (talk) 21:39, 18 February 2013 (UTC)
- Re this issue, I also don't know much about the tecnicalities involved, but his history on his talk page Shrikanthv (see the very first two items) and wayward English spellings under all the different names and in his dealings with his mentor who, it seems, was unwittingly taken for a ride and apprently does not know about what we are discussing (see his talk page: Yunshui (75), are revealing. His German IPO might well tell you more.--Zananiri (talk) 13:42, 19 February 2013 (UTC)
- Your analysis is compelling, but I still don't understand why Shrikanthv (if this is him) would try to prevent these articles from being deleted/merged. I have worked with Shrikanth before and he seemed to have a penchant for neutrality (see Talk:Swami Vivekananda#Spirituality). In fact, he nominated two of these articles for deletion, which he had to withdraw later because of the criticism he received about his other nominations. It could be him, or a meatpuppet or a sockpuppet deliberately obfuscating his writing style with typos. We have to be reasonably sure about this before we proceed. Correct Knowledge«৳alk» 16:03, 19 February 2013 (UTC)
- Re this issue, I also don't know much about the tecnicalities involved, but his history on his talk page Shrikanthv (see the very first two items) and wayward English spellings under all the different names and in his dealings with his mentor who, it seems, was unwittingly taken for a ride and apprently does not know about what we are discussing (see his talk page: Yunshui (75), are revealing. His German IPO might well tell you more.--Zananiri (talk) 13:42, 19 February 2013 (UTC)
I've noticed in the discussion at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Yogic Treatments and Natural Remedies (2nd nomination) that four accounts (i.e. User:Soroboro, User:Goldenaster, User:Knight of Infinity, and User:Anta An) are all recently created, seem to have the same format of text on their user pages, and seem to have gravitated to the Sarkar Afds. Do you think it is time for a formal investigation? Location (talk) 01:34, 27 February 2013 (UTC)
- A formal investigation is already taking place here. You can contribute if you want to. Correct Knowledge«৳alk» 01:54, 27 February 2013 (UTC)
- Thanks for the pointer. Cheers! Location (talk) 02:21, 27 February 2013 (UTC)