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Baselrallus intermedius[edit]
to --Macrochelys (talk) 18:32, 1 August 2014 (UTC) Hello,
The article containing the description of Baselrallus intermedius was indeed on the website of the Journal of Zoological Systematics and Evolutionary Research for a while, but for some reason it was eventually removed, meaning that the original source describing the taxon is no longer available.
Well, I can think of a reason: the paper mentions a new name: Baselrallus intermedius De Pietri et Mayr, 2014. At this moment a Nomen Nudum, because it is not published, only on line first, but I have the paper. It happens more often, Trevor Worthy had a paper on Coenocorypha last year, it was on line, but taken of the site because a new species was mentioned: The entry has been deleted on Thursday. Here is the reason (told me by e-mail by Dr. Worthy): "Because it is a taxonomic article it should not have gone online early as the online early version in EMU does not have pagination or volume numbers - and a page number and volume number is of paramount importance for a paper describing a taxon. So it will appear with the rest of the issue (now online) in the December version when that issue is actually published properly." I don't think I do any harm in mentioning a name that was already made a Nomen Nudum by their own publisher. The only thing you can criticize is the fact that I did not mention that it is a Nomen Nudum. I did not mention the fact it is a Nomen Nudum because I expect the paper will be published this year, so I will not change the entry. By the way, I have updated this site "xxxx in paleontology" for the years 2000 to 2014 (2000 under construction)
Sorry for the delay, I did not know how this worked.
Regards, --Archaeopsittacus (talk) 2:35, 2 August 2014 (UTC)
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**** in Paleontology[edit]
I have to ask, do you understand the changes that I have been making to the avian entries on the lists?--Kevmin § 12:26, 5 December 2014 (UTC)
Yes I do, but I do not like them. I try to give as much information as possible, I like to give full names of authors, I like to place species in their latin named families, not in their English names, that have no standing in biology or paleontology, you took out flags of States of the USA and the USSR, that are very big countries, those flags give a more precise place to where the fossil was found, so I think useful information. I don't mind if you place references under a shortened name or put breaks in or correct typo's, but I do mind if you think you have to change the contents of my work, even without consulting me first. If you want to change it the way you want, please, there are a lot of years left to do.
Sincerely,
Archaeopsittacus
- The formatting I am using is the formatting that the whole year in paleontology article series uses, and the inconsistancy within the avies section is notable. Authors in biology are Farley if ever shown as a full name, and the links are still to the same spot so the formatting should be followed. The flag section is simply to denot the country of discovery, and has never been used for subunits. The article links for taxon's should be as clear as possible, thus monotypic taxa and extinct should be linked to the genus page, not species per wp paleontology guidelines. I always
So suggest you read wp:own, once added to Wikipedia, an edit or a page is not yours and anyone is free to edit it further without consulting the original author.--Kevmin § 14:23, 5 December 2014 (UTC)
Dear Kevmin,
I think you do not get the point. I gave the reasons why I edited the bird section as I did. I think that they are good and reasonable reasons. The fact that other people do things differently is up to them. All I do is give data and present that in the way I think is best. As you stated I do not own the data, but I have it, you do not. So edit what you want, but leave the data alone. I do not have the time or want to change it all over again.
Archaeopsittacus
- I do understand your points, however it seems you do not understand my points, especially regarding ownership of contributions. The fine detail is material that should be included in articles on the taxa and not in the lists, and the style of citations, authors, locations should follow standard wp and scientific practices.--Kevmin § 01:38, 6 December 2014 (UTC)
Dear Kevmin,
You talk to me about ownership, may I remind you that you don't own wp either, nobody does. I do understand your point: you want me to stick to the rules and standards that you want to push. Well, I am a free man, I have nothing with your rules and I present my data the way I want to. If I'm am not allowed to do so I will not present my data at all and leave your pretty little toy to rule makers who don't have the data so no one will benefit from the knowledge I have. Your standard is a very low one, my standard gives more information to everybody. I started this project because I thought the efforts made by contributers were very incomplete, only 50% of the species described in a year or less were mentioned what makes the while lemna **** year in paleontology very unreliable and I thought it could be better, but if the "rules makers" want me to stop, i'll stop, I am not in the habit to throw pearls before swines.
Archaepsittacus
Well Kevmin,
I see you still feel the need to throw away all the information I give on the ****year in palentology site just to satisfy your own needs. It already makes me feel not wanting to share my data on the net, as I told you some time ago.
If you want to make corrections, please consult me. But do not loose information.
Archaeopsittacus
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2015 in paleontology[edit]
Hello, Archaeopsittacus
Is there any particular reason why the way of displaying new taxa in the bird table should not be consistent with the rest of the article?
If there is such reason - then the rest of the page should be changed too - but having two ways to display new taxa in a single article is just plain confusing.
Rnnsh (talk) 06:43, 13 September 2015 (UTC)
- @Rnnsh: The display on the rest of the page is consistent with taxonomic and nomenclatural formatting, and consistent with the all other (year) in paleontology articles and subarticles, while the Aves section deviates from that notably. I have pointed this out to Archaeopsittacus before, and noted the correct formatting, this has gone unheeded though. see my thread about this a just a few posts above this one.--Kevmin § 23:01, 13 September 2015 (UTC)
Hello Rnnsh, As you might have noticed I hardly did anything to the birds in 2015. And for your criticism, I gave my arguments. I don't like the "Wikipedia police" (you and kevmin) who think thay have to watch the uniformity of topics.
If you want to change my data, consult me first.
Archaopsittacus
- Heres the problem, its not your data. Per the licencing of wikipedia, as soon as you hit the save button on an edit, it is no longer yours. Asserting "your data" has no meaning at all. As I have explained already. The edits that have been made bring the data provided into proper formatting for WIKI policies, guidelines, and also into line with taxonomic nomenclature formatting. --Kevmin § 20:16, 19 September 2015 (UTC)
Well, the fact that you keep deleting important information, you keep talking nonsence (for instance, you state Archaeornithura is a new genus and species, it is not, it is a new genus, Archaeornithura meemannae is a new genus and new species; you give family names in English, a nice language, but it has no status in biology nor paleontology, those names should be in Latin, you just give globel locations, while it is very easy to be more precise), you make the subject a farce. I have additions for 1996, 2011 and 2015 and for 1825-1963 but you make me sick, I will not share them with people who are really interested.
Archaeopsittacus.— Preceding unsigned comment added by Archaeopsittacus (talk • contribs)
- The information is rarely deleted, and the occasions it is, it should be covered in an actual article. The notes section on Archaeornithura specifies the new species, so it is not nonsense. This is a general encyclopedia, aimed at a general, non-ornithology audience hence the English name usage The links are piped to the correct article anyways, so the reader is taken to the article in question anyways. It may be "easy", but its not how the lists are constructed, based on the premise that countries/states/towns did not even exist when the taxa were alive. Stop having a fit over the fact that you are editing contrary to what general consensus is. Part of the collaborative nature of the project is actually understanding that you don't get you own way by default at times.--Kevmin § 01:18, 20 September 2015 (UTC)
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