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Hi; welcome to my talk page, everyone! :-)

Talk archive vault[edit]

Congratulations, Wernher![edit]

Congratulations! It's my pleasure to let you know that, consensus being reached, you are now an administrator. You should read the relevant policies and other pages linked to from the administrators' reading list before carrying out tasks like deletion, protection, banning users, and editing protected pages such as the Main Page. Most of what you do is easily reversible by other sysops, apart from page history merges and image deletion, so please be especially careful with those. You might find the new administrators' how-to guide helpful. Cheers! -- Cecropia | explains it all ® 16:53, 8 Dec 2004 (UTC)

And cheers to you, Cecropia! Yes, I'll certainly study the admin reading list to avoid destructive and/or embarrassing f###ups. (Oops, I suddenly feel the Force™ pulsating in my veins... the alluring power of adminship beckons me to join the Dark Side... Bwahahahahahhh!!!! The Imperial March may be heard fading in from the background...) >:-) --Wernher 18:43, 8 Dec 2004 (UTC)
BTW, I didn't have to wait long until I had a use for the revert function... --Wernher 18:23, 9 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Images at Sinclair ZX81[edit]

Hi Wernher, and congrats on the adminship. Have you seen the recent edit by Infrogmation at Sinclair ZX81?! Will the images have to go? BACbKA 21:28, 14 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Hello BACbKA, thanks for noticing my incredibly elevated wikistatus. :) I have now commented on the ZX81 images (thanks for telling me about it; I do not watch the article for the time being). --Wernher 22:50, 14 Dec 2004 (UTC)

German cruiser Blücher[edit]

I've not virulently opposed to your comment style, but it is not the standard style: if you think it is clearly better then please reinstate (as I see you have already done). I've principally been concentrating on copyediting (judged on the content, I think most of the contributors have English as a second langauge - which is not to denigrate their excellent command of English - I certainly would not even try to write in another language!). -- ALoan (Talk) 01:50, 17 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Hi; thank you very much for the copyediting -- I actually learn a lot by watching my English being tuned and massaged by other contributors! :) And thanks for not making a big deal of the src comment style delims I use(d). As for the majority of the Blücher editors being second-language English writers, I think you're probably correct; I would guess many if not most of us are Norwegians and Germans, as the subject -ehem- relates to us in a more, shall we say, direct, way. :) --Wernher 02:11, 17 Dec 2004 (UTC)
Oh, blimey - sorry for posting on your user page rather than your talk page (:-/) -- ALoan (Talk) 04:23, 17 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Edit summary[edit]

You may be interested in Template talk:Edit summary. Thanks. Hyacinth 18:06, 8 Jan 2005 (UTC)

Thanks to you! I went to the page, and then put Wikipedia talk:Edit summary onto my watchlist -- the thread seems to have continued at the latter page. BTW, is your user name in any way related to this nice lady? :) --Wernher 18:04, 9 Jan 2005 (UTC)
No, not Hyacinth Bucket but Hyacinth (mythology) rather. Hyacinth 18:29, 9 Jan 2005 (UTC)

Wikiproject Norway[edit]

Time for a Wikipedia:WikiProject Norway? -- Egil 14:58, 11 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Right'O. Count me in. --Wernher 05:09, 15 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Further reading/References[edit]

I carefully split the list up into two sections (as I often do when I add such information on Wikipedia) because I distinguish between i) things that non-specialist readers ought to go to if they want more information than is in the article, and ii) things that will only be useful/intelligible to specialists in the field. In other words, by removing that distinction you're making those lists less useful. If you think some other names for the two sections would be better, I'd be happy to hear them, but please don't take out information for out readers which I have made an extra effort to add. Thanks! Noel (talk) 18:43, 11 Mar 2005 (UTC)

PS: I don't know if you ever looked at Wikipedia:WikiProject Early computers, but I'm starting to accumulate a good list of sources now; Wikipedia:WikiProject Early computers/Books is particularly good (IMHO, of course :-).

PPS: I still don't watch other people's Talk: pages, so any reply here I may never see. Noel (talk) 18:43, 11 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Hello and thanks for making me aware of your rationale for dividing the article reference section into two---Further reading and References. The only reason I collapsed them into one sec was my perceived notion of "std wkp format", and to keep the number of "auxiliary secs"* as low as possible (which leads to more concise articles, IMO making them more readable). However, I very much see your point, especially after reading your comment at my talk page. :)
Perhaps a reasonable compromise would be to use a References sec only, but to list the references under separate italicized** subheadings (not subsecs---they also clutter up the TOC & article IMO; even worse than separate secs), my suggestions being Further reading: and Academic sources:. How about that? Anyway, I will certainly work through (some of) "my own" articles (those on my watchlist, that is) in order to split the refs into said categories. --Wernher 21:20, 11 Mar 2005 (UTC)
(* By "auxiliary secs" I mean those "std" secs like See also, References, and External links.)
(** I have noticed that some other contributors use italics for non-subsec "subheadings".)
I like all of your suggestion, with the sole exception of the name of the second subheading. "Academic sources" sounds a bit clunky. I'll see if I can come up with something better... But I can see that making the TOC smaller (especially for short articles) is really a good idea. Oh, and I think I'll go for bold rather than italic so that it mimics the look of section/subsection headers. Noel (talk) 22:47, 11 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Curbing mergaholism[edit]

I noticed you put "merge" notices on the 68008/68012 entries. The fact that these articles are small is not a valid reason to merge. Small is good! I hope you will revert the merge requests. Mirror Vax 08:17, 16 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Hmm. I will accept this for the 68008, but I still think the 68012 article should be merged with the 68010 one---due to the very small differences between those two processors. --Wernher 07:13, 17 Apr 2005 (UTC)
The pin-out is different, so if somebody adds pin-outs in the future it would be good to have it seperate. Mirror Vax 13:04, 17 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Your comments on Image:6407244.jpg[edit]

Hi. You posted the following on the talk page for Image:6407244.jpg:

Is that his slide rule, to the right?

On the lower right side of the photo, just beside von Braun's left hand, and extending out of the picture, is a white ruler'ish object. I happen to own a couple of slide rules of the same model as von Braun's—a German pre-war model that von Braun brought two of from Peenemünde to the US—and I wonder if said object might just be what I think it is. Any comments? --Wernher 15:04, 10 Dec 2004 (UTC)

This image was deleted because it was replaced by this image on Commons. You may want to re-post your comments there. RedWolf 21:55, Apr 17, 2005 (UTC)

New naming conventions for military units[edit]

Hi. My watchlist shows that you were interested enough to work on a military-topic article, so I wanted to make sure you were aware of the new Wikipedia:Naming conventions (military units) project, in case you didn't see any of the announcements. — B.Bryant 22:32, 17 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Nope, didn't see the announcement(s), so thanks for informing me! :-) Highly relevant for my on-off work on military articles; I always want to use existing standards---or if none exist, to help get some established. --Wernher 22:40, 17 Apr 2005 (UTC)

PEEK and POKE[edit]

OK, I've stopped moving things. My main motivation for doisng the rename/move: PEEK and POKE are so closely related that they needed to be merged into a single article, and the polymer called PEEK is a direct name-clash for the PEEK instruction. All this can be sorted using standard disambiguation tactics, whilst eliminating duplication between the PEEK and POKE articles.

Hoewever, this also means that I've also stopped the link-tidying process as well. What do you want to do now? -- The Anome 01:12, Apr 18, 2005 (UTC)

Well, oh well. After having calmed down and thought about it a little, I actually came to the same conclusion as you did---so please feel free to go ahead sorting out the dbl redirects etc. I will do my part as well. Thanks for answering my "distress call", anyway. :-) --Wernher 01:16, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)
I've done a bit of link-tidying and dbl redirect fixing. Think it's reasonably OK by now. --Wernher 01:41, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

List of Norwegian Wikipedians[edit]

I added myself on the list, these are other persons you may ask to "join" (taken from Category:User_no-N ).

User:Arj, User:Arnemann, User:Athox, User:Cnyborg, User:Damsleth, User:Danaksel, User:DarkPhoenix, User:Gwydion1, User:Jhs, User:Jonht, User:Jørgen, User:Mahlum, User:Ninuor, User:NuclearFunk, User:Sjakkalle, User:Supine, User:TVPR, User:Tokle, User:Vegardw

Nevermind, I added them. Sorry for not signing the first time around. --Punkmorten 18:29, 16 July 2005 (UTC)


I don't know if SEAC is Standards EASTERN Automatic Computer or ELECTONIC. I thought it was Eastern, and I had it moved from Electronic to Eastern. But since then I found contemporary reports calling it Electronic. People (including me) may have assumed that the E was Eastern since the W in SWAC is Western. (Or maybe it was called Eastern after SWAC came on line.)

I created the redirect page "SEAC (computer)" and I think the article chould go there, with redirects from the other two names. Since you are an administrator, can you do that? Bubba73 July 6, 2005 02:20 (UTC)

Working on it now. I f*cked up a little, so I'll have to fix some stuff. I'll take care of it. --Wernher 6 July 2005 02:36 (UTC)
Finally done fixing the article mis-moves; I also wikified the articles a bit. --Wernher 6 July 2005 03:51 (UTC)
Thanks, good job! Bubba73 July 6, 2005 04:46 (UTC)
PS - I made all of the old links to directly to SEAC and SWAC. Bubba73 July 6, 2005 15:04 (UTC)

Who: Thanks for the moving/renaming[edit]

...of Category:Individual computers into Category:One-of-a-kind computers. :-)

Not a problem, I have a "thing" for organizing cat's :) <>Who?¿?

In that regard, I wondered if you could please point me towards the particular wikibot (code) carrying out the traversing of the categorized articles and the category marker replacements? I'm trying to learn wikibot programming (eventually hoping to 'graduate' to a higher level of existence as a Wikipedian), so a concrete example would come in handy. Thanks, --Wernher 03:12, 11 July 2005 (UTC)

I actually do not run a bot yet. I have considered it, just have not got around to doing so. See Wikipedia:Bots, it is full of resources of bots, code, and the bots that are currently running. Most of the users on there may be able to help you better. Also, see: pywikipediabot, it is the software that most users use. Hope that helps. <>Who?¿? 03:17, 11 July 2005 (UTC)

Additions to your symbol pages[edit]

I made a few additons to your symbol and A collections of wiki shorthand. I hope you don't mind! --fpo 17:18, August 8, 2005 (UTC)

Hey, no problem. :-) As long as you notified me! --Wernher 19:19, 8 August 2005 (UTC)

Flags and table styles[edit]

Thanks for sorting out the different pages and getting them into more prominent places on Wikipedia. I'm watching and learning. David D. (Talk) 19:51, 8 August 2005 (UTC)

Yes, I thought I'd try to get this sorted out. For the time being I think we'll just make due with having the old pages redirect to the new ones (so that all the now-outdated links will still work), but later we should search-and-replace the whole lot of outdated links with links to the new pages, and then delete the redirect pages. I'll take care of it eventually. Also, I'm going to coerce the project page itself into the standard format. I feel a little responsible; being the guy who 'tricked you' into making a project page in the first place. :-) --Wernher 19:59, 8 August 2005 (UTC)
Oh great, you mean now I have to be responsible?  ;-) David D. (Talk) 20:01, 8 August 2005 (UTC)

Thank you Wernher![edit]

Thanks for correcting my edits in Zilog Z80, my English is still somewhat poor... --Anthony Ivanoff

No problem; you're welcome! (more of the reply...). --Wernher 00:04, 11 August 2005 (UTC)

Floppy disk table[edit]

You changed my recent changes to the floppy disk table, and left a cryptic comment: "(tbl layout --- please remember the aesthetics, people! :-)"

Not wrong in itself - but, in my eyes, the table actually looks less aesthetic after your edits. :) Could you please elaborate? --Frodet 18:53, 28 August 2005 (UTC)

OK, I guess the aesthetics is a question of each contributor's preferences as well as any differences in rendering by various browsers, in various screen sizes/resolutions... Anyway, the rationale for my edits was that the table looked better with the first and third, and the second and fourth, column being of equal widths---as this wide-narrow-wide-narrow layout corresponds somewhat with the amount of information in the columns, IMO. Does this for some reason look bad in your setup? (or is it just a preferential matter?). --Wernher 22:05, 28 August 2005 (UTC)
Actually it does. The last entry in the fourth column is wrapped in my setup. However, I did check at a higher resolution and both variants looks OK there. However, my numbers were not chose at random; in my view (:-) the third and fourth colum has app. the same amount of information (and type), hence the same size, while the second has much less.
Ideally the HiFD entry should be trimmed to make it consistent with the rest of the table....
Still as bad as before? (I did some tweaking again; not sure as to whether we should be layout-nitpicking like this, though, as I guess the pages are bound to come out wrongly for some users whatever we do...). --Wernher 23:46, 28 August 2005 (UTC)
No. Much better now. I agree with the sentiment, also. :) BTW: Did you see my table for 8-inch floppies? Do you think it should be included in the article? --Frodet 17:38, 5 September 2005 (UTC)
Thanks for the good vibrations. :) As for the detailed tables, I think it's interesting and relevant information, absolutely, but I'll have to 'meditate' a little about whether we should put them in the floppy article or some other place. BTW, I fixed the tables up a little. Also: do you think we should replace the "N/A"s by "TBD"s, or perhaps keep the N/As but have them link to TBD? We might just happen upon the missing data one sunny day, you know. :) --Wernher 21:09, 6 September 2005 (UTC)
Nice touches - I'm a bit sloppy sometimes. As for the N/A - in this context they stood for Not Applicable since that particular format did not have an index cylinder.; no TBDs. :-) --Frodet 22:09, 6 September 2005 (UTC)

Talk:Nordic skiing World Championships[edit]

Hi, I replied to your comment on that page just now - I think the anon IP who keeps adding flags and messes up the page is the same guy who did it to the athletics pages, in which case we'll probably not get him to click on the talk pages. Sam Vimes 20:15, 17 September 2005 (UTC)

It is definitely the same guy. He has asked me for help on at least two occasions. i assume he was being sarcastic but it shows he can reply if he wants to. I have been aggressively reverting him on the athletics pages and he has not being vandalising the pages in the last few weeks. i say vandalise since although the content is not gibberish and looks half decent, he knows he is going against consensus and he rarely finishes the job, spmetimes leaving a mess. His last attempts on the Olympic athletics pages included removing the results as well as adding flags???? If that's not vandalism I don't know what is. David D. (Talk) 21:06, 17 September 2005 (UTC)

Visual Basic Classic wikibook[edit]

I see you have contributed to the BASIC programming language article on Wikipedia. Any chance you would like to join in editing the wikibook: --Kjwhitefoot 10:39, 30 September 2005 (UTC)

Nope. (I'm no VB man.) :-) --Wernher 11:28, 30 September 2005 (UTC)

Forsiden i dag[edit]

Jeg syntes jeg så en 8-bits datamaskin på forsiden, og sannelig var ikke dine fingeravtrykk på den også... :) Harald Hansen 15:57, 6 October 2005 (UTC)

Soviet calculators and computers[edit]

Just in case you've missed it: Here's two galleries, one features Soviet calculators and the other eastern European home computers. Harald Hansen 05:56, 8 October 2005 (UTC)

Lister and Recent Deaths[edit]


As you may see from the RD talk page, I reverted your removal of Lister. I did so not because I personally disagree (I am ambivalent), but because I felt it was consistent with precedent (see Ashley Burns and her AfD.) As I suggested at RD, I expect any stub to be AfD'ed as Burns was. Until then, Lister should stay, if for no other reason than to alert RD viewers when a stub is done, so that it might be nominated for deletion. Best wishes, Xoloz 04:42, 16 November 2005 (UTC)

Current sports events[edit]

Grouping related sports was a really good idea! -- Mwalcoff 02:41, 22 November 2005 (UTC)

Hey, thanks! :-) --Wernher 02:46, 22 November 2005 (UTC)

Winter sports[edit]


I've started a discussion on Talk:Current sports events about whether every World Cup winter-sports event deserves its own listing on the "Upcoming events" pane. It seems to be common practice for other sports to list only the season and important events (such as the Daytona 500 in NASCAR) in that section. Please give your point of view on the talk page. Thanks. -- Mwalcoff 00:13, 7 December 2005 (UTC)

Window (disambiguation)[edit]

Noticed your edit to Window (disambiguation). Just thought I'd let you know that piping and excess wikilinks do not go on disambiguation pages. Wikipedia:Manual of Style (disambiguation pages) has more information, and I'm always happy to discuss disambiguation.--Commander Keane 06:58, 8 December 2005 (UTC)

No problemo. And after the recent edits, the page looks much more tidy! :) --Wernher 00:02, 9 December 2005 (UTC)

Commodore 64 category[edit]

This category explicitly includes the Commodore 128. Mirror Vax 14:45, 8 December 2005 (UTC)

New Commodore software articles[edit]

I recently created articles for Simons' BASIC and Fast Hack'em. Any assistance you could provide on these is greatly appreciated. The Simons' BASIC article has all 114 commands described (not copied and pasted; I rewrote all 114 descriptions in my own words!) I am not all that familiar with these software packages, not having used them extensively back "in the day", so if you know more about them, perhaps you can contribute. Crotalus horridus 08:51, 15 December 2005 (UTC)

Good work, Crotalus. By the way, do either of you guys know whether Mike J. Henry is a real name or a pseudonym? Mirror Vax 18:39, 15 December 2005 (UTC)


I created an (experimental) vector SVG version of the MOS Technology logo. The advantage of this is that it can be displayed at almost any size requested without pixelation or other forms of distortion. Please see Image:MOS Technology.svg. I have updated the relevant templates with this image. Crotalus horridus (TALKCONTRIBS) 03:54, 16 December 2005 (UTC)

A thought on categories[edit]

I noticed you added Commodore VIC-20 to the home computers category (although it was already a member through its category). I believe I understand why you did this - because the list of home computers should not be arbitrarily divided between those that have categories and those that don't. Unfortunately, VIC-20 now has two entries, which clutters up the category. What is needed is a way to tell the wiki software, "put this category among the articles, not among the subcategories". Since you are an admin, perhaps you can bring this to the attention of the developers. Mirror Vax 13:41, 17 December 2005 (UTC)

Integrated circuit pinouts[edit]

I was experimenting with the SVG format to see if it was suitable for creating chip pinout diagrams. Apparently it is: see 6264 for my first such technical drawing. This one took the better part of a day, but now that it exists, it should be much easier to adapt it so that we can have pinouts for chip articles like MOS Technology VIC-II and MOS Technology CIA. I'm thinking about slapping together a simple application that would let me enter the number of pins and the pin names and then automatically generate the vector drawing from that. Crotalus horridus (TALKCONTRIBS) 07:54, 18 December 2005 (UTC)

Also see MOS Technology 6522. This contains an updated version of my chip pinout (including a MOS logo and gradient shading). Of course, the size and the pin assignments were updated correspondingly. Crotalus horridus (TALKCONTRIBS) 11:59, 18 December 2005 (UTC)

Great work. I'll take a nitpickingly close look at all the MOS stuff after Newyear's. :-) I tend to prefer ultra-simple block diagrams drawn with black outlines on white, for clarity and ease of reading. If we decide to do that, it's done in a jiffy to change those SVG diagrams, of course. For now, Merry X-Mas! --Wernher 10:03, 20 December 2005 (UTC)

3D Monster Maze[edit]

Hi Wernher and Happy New Year!

In case you haven't seen this already, I tried to nominate the 3DMAZE article as a FAC, and got generally negative response so far. I've incorporated most of the voters' constructive requests into the article, but one thing remains unanswered — they say that the article is still too short. It would be great if you could look at it and expand it further or just give advice on what to do, beyond doing original research of the game by dis-assembly :-) --BACbKA 14:58, 2 January 2006 (UTC)


We need to review the terms used for various types of regions of Norway, esp. the current erroneous term "landscape", but also landsdel and tettsted. See for instance Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Norway#.22Landscape.22. -- Egil 16:10, 11 January 2006 (UTC)

BASIC 8[edit]

Since you're an admin, could you please delete the old redirect at BASIC 8 and then move BASIC 8.0 to that target, as we discussed on the talk page? I can't do the move without admin powers. Thanks in advance. Crotalus horridus (TALKCONTRIBS) 11:01, 13 January 2006 (UTC)

Seems Mirror Vax beat me to it. :-) I did some more edits to the article, however. --Wernher 20:09, 21 January 2006 (UTC)

Galaksija BASIC[edit]

Thanks for your effort! I really appreciate it. Video generation was not CPU-optimized though. The CPU actually generated video signal itself with little help of shifters. That's it! I will wait until you finish and then fix this little thing only. --Aleksandar Šušnjar 20:52, 20 January 2006 (UTC)

You're welcome! Myself, I really enjoyed reading about the Galaksija and its BASIC. Totally new territory for me. But that's one reason why I'm a 1970s/80s hobbyist/home computer enthusiast, of course---you never stop being captivated by all the creativity and enterprise of hobbyists, small tech companies, and computer magazine staffs and writes during that period. :-)
Please feel free to fix any errors and inconsistencies at the instants you find them, however! --Wernher 20:18, 21 January 2006 (UTC)


Hi, Good to see you contributing to the Atari mag articles.

One thing; what's "_NOTOC_"? I'm curious about this...

Fourohfour 22:07, 22 January 2006 (UTC)

Hi there, thanks for the kudos, and for coming by! See WP:TOC for all you ever wanted to know about TOCs. :-) --Wernher 22:15, 22 January 2006 (UTC)
OIC! Thanks... Fourohfour 22:14, 24 January 2006 (UTC)


Do you remember the URL that you got this image from? Thanks, JYolkowski // talk 23:59, 24 January 2006 (UTC)

Indeed, it was actually linked to via one of the external links listed in the Easter egg article. See the recently updated image page, with the URL and source info included. Thanks for reminding me; the fair use tag needed changing. --Wernher 21:05, 27 January 2006 (UTC)

Re: Biathlon World Championships[edit]

Hi, actualy I'm working on a list of some 4900 articles (down to 3969 now, whew!) in an effort to orphan some flag images that are redundant. So I'm focusing exclusively on replacing the flag images at the moment (the AutoWikiBrowser software also apply some general fixes as I go along). Might look into it later though, but it will probably take me a good week to get though the current batch. If you use either Windows 2000 or XP you can try out the AWB tool for yourself though (let me know if you want me to add you to the "aproved users" list for it). Just feed it a list of pages, set up your replace patterns and start it up. Then all you need to do is review the diffs and hit save if everyting is ok on every page, it's excelent for this kind of mindless work that still require a human to keep an eye on things. --Sherool (talk) 00:30, 15 February 2006 (UTC)

Olympic Medal Templates[edit]

I have addressed your concern regarding this issue at Template talk:MedalTop. Let me know if that works for you! tiZom(2¢) 01:02, 24 February 2006 (UTC)


Hi Wernher, it was certainly not me that added the x86 statment to the Z80 article introduction, but, I still feel that one could easily argue that x86 is more related to z80 than the 6502 is, both technically and regarding involved people. It is certainly not a coincidence that the two assembly languages are so similar. My suggestion is to move references to both 6502 and x86 into a new paragraph, to avoid cluttering the introduction to much, but still keep relevant facts. What do you say? HenkeB 03:02, 29 March 2006 (UTC)

Hmm. The reason I replaced the x86 ref with the 6502 one, was that the 6502 is much more relevant in the historical setting (the era/market of 8-bit desktop microcomputers). I'd say that the x86 connection is much more relevant in regard to the 8080, in which article you will indeed find explicit mention of that relation. The 8080 'inspired' both the Z80 and the origin of the x86 (specifically, the 16-week development of the 8086), but I wouldn't say the Z80 as such inspired the x86---that dubious honor goes, understandably, to the 8080. Also note that 8086 asm is very similar to (being directly based on) 8080 asm, not Z80 asm; the latter, as you might know, was significantly different (for copyright reasons I assume). Myself, I actually think 8080 asm is clearer and more intuitive than Z80 asm, but that's not relevant here, I guess... :-)
In the Z80 article's Notable uses section there is in fact the passage "[There were also] a great number of fairly anonymous business-oriented CP/M machines that dominated the market of the time in the way that Windows based machines do today." Maybe one should stress this point---the market-wise similarity of Z80 & CP/M to x86 & DOS/Windows---somewhat stronger, perhaps in the intro section.

Jag har också skrivit (t.ex om ZX81 "internal workings") under namnen "Henke"/"Henric" samt anonymt, men glömt lösenorden - skall inte hända igen... (ursäkta en skandinavisk mening, men jag såg ju att du var från Norge!) HenkeB 03:02, 29 March 2006 (UTC)

Inga problem alls! :-) Alla lösenord och PIN-koder man måste komma ihåg hela tiden kan bli lite mycket enkelte gånger. Grattis med dom starka Vinter-OS-prestationerna, förresten! --Wernher 00:42, 30 March 2006 (UTC)
Tack! Men jag tillhör de 2% som föredrar att dricka min öl medan jag lyssnar på jazz, inte på sport - men jag tackar för vänligheten! -- HenkeB 21:33, 31 March 2006 (UTC)

Guidelines for Wikipedia lists of ethnic groups[edit]

Please may I draw your attention to Wikipedia:Village pump (policy)#Guidelines for Wikipedia lists of ethnic groups. Your contributions would be very welcome. -- Brownlee 12:08, 11 April 2006 (UTC)

Hey, thanks! I have pitched in now. --Wernher 14:48, 13 April 2006 (UTC)

Deductive reasoning[edit]

Hi, User:Jack O'Lantern is now claiming that to include a person on a a list of Irish Americans, they specifically have to be described as such, even if they are described as having an Irish parent/grandparent, unless they are described specifically as Irish American themselves or by somebody else he will exclude them from the list. This seems to me a misinterpretation of WP:NOR so I would appreciate your input here Wikipedia:Village_pump_(policy)#Is_deductive_reasoning_original_research.3F. Regards Arniep 15:42, 2 July 2006 (UTC)

Wikipedia:WikiProject Linux[edit]

I thought you might be interested. Best wishes, Samsara (talkcontribs) 17:53, 27 July 2006 (UTC)


I fixed the Ten-codes table 10-0s section for you. --Bwefler 22:35, 9 October 2006 (UTC)

Early computers[edit]

You seem to be the significant editor; is the omission of "digital" accidental or deliberate? There is one analog machine listed now. Thanks, 01:09, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

Hi, thanks for caring! Your comment is a very significant one; I must admit I had completely forgotten to specify the analog/digital distinction in the related category tree. Let me think about it for a while --- we should be careful in updating the tree, so that we keep it nice and tidy, i.e. systematic and general. Accidentally messing up category tree/definition updates occurs far too often, I know from experience. Again, thanks for your concern. --Wernher 14:20, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

I've been removing the "Early computer" category from articles that didn't qualify. Two that I've not removed are BESM and Odra. These are articles about a computer series; the individual machines (systems) would qualify. Removing the category from the series article, requiring individual listings (likely as redirects, but with a category Early computers) didn't seem like something that would add value.

The IBM 700/7000 series entry remains, even though it is not a series and most machines are individually listed. Will remove it when all the individual machines are listed. (Similar to ILLIAC, which I did remove as the ILLIAC 1 & 2 are listed).

I stated one analog; there are two.

Don't know why I've taken interest in this category; just a random event. As a newby, I've only been causing trouble for a few months. I do have a question: how can I do a search that returns all of the categories containing "Comput" (computer, computing, ...)?

Thanks, 06:01, 18 October 2006 (UTC)

Home computers in Norway[edit]

Hælleu!Held på å oversettje til norsk nokre av artiklane om heimedatamaskiner. Til no har eg oversatt det meste av Commodore portefølja , Sinclair maskinene, samt litt om Dragon 32/64 maskina. Har du tips til kva andre som gjorde det stort eller nokonlunde hertillands? Var nok litt for ung til å hugse særs anna enn gode trauste C-64, skjønar du... AndersL 23:19, 15 November 2006 (UTC)

Hi there, I got your message, and I think you've covered the major 1980's 8-bit home computers in the Norwegian market. You might, however, also want to add translations of the Amstrad CPC articles, possibly also the Amstrad PCW series. One of my neighbours had a Sharp MZ-700, which didn't sell very well in Norway, though. Remember also the two most significant 16-bit home computers, the Amiga (perhaps you've done that one already?) and the Atari ST. Thanks for doing the translation work! See you around, --Wernher 16:31, 16 November 2006 (UTC)

Asian Games[edit]

Competition at the Asian Games has already begun even if the Opening Ceremony doesn't take place until Friday. See 2006 Asian Games. Ludahai 10:25, 26 November 2006 (UTC)

Article in need of cleanup - please assist if you can[edit]

Airport Helgeland[edit]

Hi, I've been editing the Airport Helgeland article and I'm having trouble finding sources about the airport project. I'm assuming sources would be easier to find if I understood Norwegian, but unfortunately I don't. I'm hoping you can help out, either by finding such a source yourself or forwarding the request to one you project Norway editors. Thanks for your help! SERSeanCrane 17:22, 13 January 2007 (UTC)

Biathlon 58-65[edit]

Hello. I read what you wrote about the team competition in the world championships. You are right, it was not a relay as it is suggested on the biathlon page. It was an offical world championships for teams by adding the times for the 3 best athletes for each country in the 20 km. (In 1958 the 4 best). There was an unofficial relay in 1965 which led to the indroduction as an official event in 1966. Stavol2 23:24, 18 January 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for your help on the FIS Nordic World Ski Championships 2007[edit]

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Proposed deletion of Microcomputer software category[edit]

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Re: spurt[edit]

Hehe. English has too many words. We can't use them all :D

Btw, the article is still 111 kilobytes long. I thought of splitting off each individual meet (or "block of meets" - i.e. pre-Christmas, January, and the three March events), and shortening the main article as outlined in User:Sam Vimes/Sandbox, so that at least some of the final standings could be taken back into the article. Sam Vimes | Address me 22:21, 18 March 2007 (UTC)

The latter paragraph moved to Talk:2006-07 Biathlon World Cup for further discussion. --Wernher 22:31, 18 March 2007 (UTC)

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Hi Wernher
You've uploaded Image:Harpoon-block-II-launch.jpg in May 2005. I've moved the picture to commons in April 2007. Denniss says that this pic is maybe a copyvio of boing [1]. Do you remember where you've found this image?
Please tell me on my my userpage on commons
thx --D-Kuru (talk) 15:14, 16 February 2008 (UTC)

--D-Kuru (talk) 16:54, 28 February 2008 (UTC)


In your edit summary, you said byp here. What do you mean? (talk) 17:07, 13 December 2008 (UTC)

Wiki is just a history lesson[edit]

In article graphic calculator, it does not tell me what the symbols mean or what functions the buttons do? - (talk) 20:54, 31 December 2008 (UTC)

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VM skiskyting[edit]

Hei Wernher. Håper det er OK at jeg skriver til deg direkte på din side og på norsk. Det må sies at jeg på ingen måte er noen ekspert på Wikipedia. Skriver til deg fordi du på Biathlon World Championships sin diskusjonsside tok opp dette med lagkonkurranser 1958-65. Jeg har tillatt meg å redigere denne siden + undersidene. Disse var tidligere oppført som uoffisielle stafetter, og det er en grov feil som dessverre har forplantet seg mye på nettet. Førte opp som referanse en omfattende sportsside som faktisk har dette riktig. IBU har på sin webside resultatene (mangler dog navn!) fra 20 km, bortsett fra de 2 første årene. Det var jo bare ett renn, men med to konkurranser. IBU-siden har faktisk et bilde av det norske laget i 1958 som mottar medaljer. Hvis du ser på hva jeg har gjort for 1965 er det hentet fra "Sportsboken 1965". Tok med stafetten her for å klargjøre at det er den eneste gangen man har hatt uoffisiell VM-øvelse. Ellers kan jeg sitere fra en mail jeg fikk av en venn i Sverige. "Ifråga om lagtävlingen i skidskytte-VM 1958-65 har jag hittat UIPMBs bulletin 1 (31.12.1960) och där redovisas "Concours par équipe" i VM 1958 och 59 - utan anmärkning om inofficiellt". "Norsk Idrettsleksikon" beskriver også disse øvelsene som "lag" uten noen forbehold. Har ført inn tider og antall bom. Bom i lag 58-59 kommer senere. Ellers har jeg på hovedsiden linket alle årstall, rettet noen små feil i medaljetabellen og lagt til en kommentar i ingressen. På sidene for årene 2000-2004 har jeg endret formatet i tråd med foregående år, så flagg og land står i kolonne. Når det gjelder nummereringen av mesterskapene ser jeg at man har utelatt 1976 og 2006, men tatt med 1992, 1994, 1998 og 2002. Det burde vel være enten/eller, uavhengig om det er en eller to (1998 4) øvelser. Eller er dette nummerering fra IBU? Hva mener du? mvh Stavol2 (talk) 08:35, 20 July 2009 (UTC)

If the dust has settled[edit]

And since you are a Norwegian, maybe you could say how the celebrated Commodore 128 programmer Alf Jonassen died? Wikipedia would be improved greatly if there were an article about him. Dexter Nextnumber (talk) 22:33, 26 November 2009 (UTC)

Acronym for SOGWAP[edit]

I think you got the acronym wrong. If my memory serves m right, SOGWAP stood for "Son of God Wields All Power." —Preceding unsigned comment added by Dexter Nextnumber (talkcontribs) 22:40, 18 December 2009 (UTC) Dexter Nextnumber (talk) 22:45, 18 December 2009 (UTC)

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I feel Loremaster is editing Singularitarianism and Technological utopianism in a biased manner in accordance with his Save The Earth propaganda. Loremasters's ideology seems to verge towards Neo-Luddism. Here are the damming facts Loremaster has stated in discussion:

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  2. Despite the fact that I openly admit to being a technorealist who is critical of techno-utopianism in all its forms, I have let never this point of view influence any of my edits or reverts of the Technological utopianism or Singularitarianism articles. On the contrary, I am the person most responsible for expanding the former article with content some would argue is “pro-techno-utopian” (i.e. passages from James Hughes' book Citizen Cyborg).
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