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Special occasion idea: Olympics
[edit]Discussion on Olympics
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Remembering that we did themed sets for the FIFA Women's World Cup last year, I thought of an idea for a themed set of hooks: the 2024 Summer Olympics take place from July 26 to August 11 this year (in a little over five weeks) and I think there will probably be a decent number of Olympics-related hooks; I at least plan to write a good number of them. I was thinking we might be able to do something like one Olympics hook per day for the duration of the event, similar to how we did for the FIFA World Cup. Thoughts? BeanieFan11 (talk) 20:16, 20 June 2024 (UTC)
Some related considerations:
All the Olympic-related hooks that I could spot are in the table below. Schwede66 03:52, 23 June 2024 (UTC)
Just noting here that Zhang Ziyu has been nominated. Whilst she does play basketball and China is competing in that discipline at in Paris, she's not (yet?) a member of the China women's national basketball team. Hence, we could use this as another warmup hook. Schwede66 05:01, 7 July 2024 (UTC) Could somebody please review Draft:Adam Maraana? The review could double as a QPQ, as the intention of the IP editor is to have this run as part of the Olympics. Schwede66 06:15, 8 July 2024 (UTC) Red-tailed hawk, is there a good reason why you pulled the Solomon Islands at the 2020 Summer Olympics hook out of the special occasion holding area (SOHA) and put it into prep 4? Because if there isn't a good reason, I'd like to see this reverted. Schwede66 00:49, 11 July 2024 (UTC)
Some of the Olympic hooks need a bit more attention from reviewers, or nominators are dragging the chain with QPQs. For example, Prep 1 is already filled but there's still one hook that awaits its QPQ. Prep 2 is filling up but a review for this nomination hasn't even been started yet. I'd be happy to do some shuffling but there's nothing really to shuffle this with; further down, the hooks are all timed for particular occasions. Shifting items back into the Olympics proper is also tricky as almost all days have two or three items already. I'd most appreciate if those who can stand reviewing sports articles can give this some attention. Schwede66 09:32, 16 July 2024 (UTC)
Here's a summary of how many hooks we've got, and when they are scheduled to run (note that the table has been shifted to the section "Help needed"): As can be seen:
Therefore, we have to agree whether we would be happy with three Olympic-related hooks per set. Delaying Olympic-related hooks that are already approved is definitely not helping. Schwede66 22:49, 17 July 2024 (UTC)
SL93, Lorrane Oliveira was for Prep6, not Prep5. Schwede66 00:43, 18 July 2024 (UTC)
We currently have four hooks for 29 July / Prep6; this is the next prep set that will become available. That sounds too many, however, only one of those hooks is currently at SOHA. One hook, a swimmer starting for Israel, hasn't had the review started yet. There may well be a reluctance to "touch" anything Israel, so this might not make it. The two other hooks are both awaiting BeanieFan11 to provide a QPQ. Thus, at this point in time, we only have one viable hook from four candidates. When Prep6 becomes available, I'll thus bring one of the "foo at the YYYY Summer Olympics" hooks forward so that we've at least got two hooks to go. Schwede66 20:14, 18 July 2024 (UTC)
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Proposal
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The Paris Olympics will be kicking off on 26 July 2024 with an opening ceremony in the early evening. Event competitions start two days earlier on 24 July with association football and rugby sevens. The closing ceremony (article yet to be written!) is on 11 August. That's 19 days of Olympics and as suggested above, we could run Solomon Islands at the 2020 Summer Olympics as a warmup just before that period.
There'll be some special date requests coming in and to avoid filling up individual hook sets with too much sport, I suggest we co-ordinate what will run when to spread things out in a logical fashion. I suspect that we'll stay in a 24-hour cycle for the duration of the event but if that changes, we can accommodate that as well. Time zone–wise, Paris is currently at UTC+02:00 (Central European Summer Time or CEST), hence there are no mental gymnastics necessary as long as we stay in the 24-hour cycle. Comments welcome. Helpers are welcome and essential; I certainly don't want to do this all by myself as this was quite a bit of work some three years ago for the Tokyo Olympics. And with regards to my own special interests, I shall tell you that the Kiwi rowers are in good shape; I can hear the medals clinking already! Schwede66 01:20, 23 June 2024 (UTC)
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[edit]Suggested date | Q / Prep | Hooks 18 Jul | Hooks 19 Jul | Hooks 21 Jul | Hooks 3 Aug | Hooks 4 Aug |
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21-Jul | Queue5 | 2 | 2 | 2 | ||
22-Jul | Queue6 | 2 | 2 | 2 | ||
23-Jul | Queue7 | 2 | 2 | 2 | ||
24-Jul | Queue1 | 2 | 2 | 2 | ||
25-Jul | Queue2 | 2 | 2 | 2 | ||
26-Jul | Queue3 | 2 | 2 | 3 | ||
27-Jul | Queue4 | 2 | 2 | 2 | ||
28-Jul | Queue5 | 3 | 3 | 3 | ||
29-Jul | Queue6 | 2 | 4 | 3 | ||
30-Jul | Queue7 | 3 | 3 | 5 | ||
31-Jul | Queue1 | 3 | 3 | 2 | ||
1-Aug | Queue2 | 2 | 2 | 3 | ||
2-Aug | Queue3 | 2 | 2 | 2 | ||
3-Aug | Queue4 | 2 | 3 | 2 | 4 | |
4-Aug | Queue5 | 1 | 2 | 2 | 3 | 3 |
5-Aug | Queue6 | 2 | 2 | 1 | 3 | 3 |
6-Aug | Queue7 | 2 | 2 | 1 | 2 | 3 |
7-Aug | Prep1 | 2 | 2 | 1 | 2 | 2 |
8-Aug | Prep2 | 1 | 1 | 1 | 2 | 2 |
9-Aug | Prep3 | 1 | 1 | 2 | 2 | 2 |
10-Aug | Prep4 | 3 | 3 | 3 | 3 | 3 |
11-Aug | Prep5 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 2 |
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Just a heads up that I've got a week of little available time coming up:
After that, things should be back to normal. Hence, it might be a good idea if others take the lead. Kingsif, you were asking whether there's something where you could help – here's your chance. Last time, Joseph2302 did a lot of good work – would you be interested to step up? What needs doing? Here's a hopefully complete list:
If I think of anything else, I'll add that to the list. It's reasonably late in the process (the first competitions will start tomorrow) and all the structural issues are sorted. It just needs some low-level maintenance at this point. Schwede66 23:05, 22 July 2024 (UTC)
Hadi Tiranvalipour (nom) is supposed to be in prep 1, which is the next prep to be moved to queue. Problem is that the review hasn't been started yet. Any takers? Schwede66 00:44, 2 August 2024 (UTC) Ada Korkhin (nom) is a rather late nomination. It's worth getting this one into the system because it comes with a stunner of a hook! Schwede66 11:42, 2 August 2024 (UTC)
@Schwede66: Probably too short notice, but might as well ask: would it be possible to feature Template:Did you know nominations/Jamal Valizadeh on August 5? BeanieFan11 (talk) 00:33, 3 August 2024 (UTC)
I've just added Minna Stess to the table below for 11 August. Schwede66 10:06, 4 August 2024 (UTC)
And another late candidate for 7 August: Jesse Grupper (nom) Schwede66 09:02, 3 August 2024 (UTC)
I think this is the last nomination that I shall add here, and it's my own. Finn Butcher (nom). Could even be used as the lead hook, as we have a series of nice photos. Schwede66 01:55, 6 August 2024 (UTC)
As nobody has reviewed the Iman Mahdavi nomination, I shall take the SOHA box off. It can go into the normal review cycle. Schwede66 00:36, 7 August 2024 (UTC)
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Olympic hooks table
[edit]On the "Approved" page, there is now a heading Olympics: Special occasion holding area.
Article (nom) | Requested | Suggested date | Prep set | Notes (all times in CEST) | Views |
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2024 European Athletics Championships – Women's 400 metres hurdles (nom) | none | 21 July | Queue 5 | This hook names Femke Bol who is due to compete in Paris. We have a second (double-)hook that names here, hence I suggest we run this as the first warm-up hook to put as much time between the two appearance of Bol as possible. This would lend itself as the picture hook as we've got a good photo. | 2,950 |
Breaking Through (2022 film) (nom) | none | 21 July | Queue5 | The film deals with real events around the 2002 Winter Olympics, hence it's an ideal warmup hook. | 3,579 |
Zali Steggall (nom) | none | 22 July | Queue 6 | 1998 Olympic skier | 5,727 |
Ri Jong-yol (nom) | none | 22 July | Queue6 | One of the warm-up hooks; can run on any date before the Olympics start | 14,746 |
Yang Jingru (speed skater) (nom) | none | 23 July | Queue 7 | One of the warm-up hooks; can run on any date before the Olympics start. | 5,972 |
René Heyde (nom) | none | 23 July | Queue7 | One of the warm-up hooks; can run on any date before the Olympics start. | 2,405 |
Toby Olubi and Can't Touch This (nom) | none | 24 July | Queue 1 | One of the warm-up hooks; can run on any date before the Olympics start (24 is in fact the first day of competitions but we haven't got anything for that day yet). This double-hook has already had its admin checks done (by Cwmhiraeth) | 3,542 4,101 |
American Samoa at the 2020 Summer Olympics (nom) | none | 24 July | Queue1 | One of the "foo at the YYYY Summer Olympics" hooks; can run on any day during the Olympics | 5,223 |
Twice a Man (film) (nom) | none | 25 July | Queue 2 | ... that Olympia Dukakis's first screen role was in the avant-garde film Twice a Man?That's got to be a brilliant Olympics hook. |
4,711 |
Angling at the 1900 Summer Olympics (nom) | none | 25 July | Queue2 | One of the Olympic warmup hooks. | 9,438 |
Camil Doua (nom) | none | 26 July | Queue 3 | Flagbearer – Doua is competing in the men's 100 metre freestyle and the heats will be on 30 July. Problem is that we have two hooks for that date already. As Doua is flagbearer for Mauritania, the opening ceremony date is a perfectly viable alternative. Agreed for this to be a standalone hook for its rather cool hook fact. | 11,595 |
Alison McGregor (nom) | none | 26 July | Queue3 | The hook mentions that she was an Olympic torch carrier, i.e. a great warmup hook for the opening day. | 2,766 |
Lê Đức Phát (nom) | 26 July | 26 July | Queue3 | Flagbearer – part of the mass hook. Otherwise, Lê is going to compete in men's singles badminton, with the preliminary round every day from 27 to 31 July inclusive. Any of those days would thus also work. | 3,385 |
Edda Hannesdóttir (nom) | 26 July | 26 July | Queue3 | Flagbearer – part of the mass hook. Otherwise, Hannesdóttir is set to compete in the women's triathlon on 31 July | 3,230 |
María Sara Grippoli (nom) | 26 July | 26 July | Queue3 | Flagbearer – part of the mass hook. Otherwise, Grippoli is set to compete in women's 49 kg taekwondo, with all competitions on 7 August. | 2,666 |
Viren Nettasinghe (nom) | 26 July | 26 July | Queue3 | Flagbearer – part of the mass hook. | 2,655 |
Chloë Farro (nom) | 26 July | 26 July | Queue3 | Flagbearer – part of the mass hook. | 3,464 |
Oyuntsetseg Yesügen (nom) | 26 July | 26 July | Queue3 | Flagbearer – part of the mass hook. Late addition to the set. The nomination page is already closed; if you'd like to review this, please use the nomination talk page to do so. | 130 |
Fathimath Dheema Ali (nom) | none | 27 July | Queue 4 | The women's table tennis singles prelim round starts on 27 July | 7,235 |
Evann Girault (nom) | none | 27 July | Queue4 | Girault is going to compete in men's sabre, and that competition is held on 27 July (from elimination to finals; all on one day) | 3,825 |
Lilia Cosman (nom) | 28 July | 28 July | Queue 5 | Cosman will compete in the qualification round on 28 July. | 11,042 |
Aminata Barrow (nom) | None | 28 July | Queue5 | Barrow will compete in women's 100 metre breaststroke, with heats on 28 July | 4,319 |
Lorrane Oliveira (nom) | 28 July | 28 July | Queue5 | Oliveira will compete in women's artistic team all-around, with qualifications on 28 July. That's the third hook for that day. The nominator says that the team will most likely make it to the finals, to be held on 30 July, but we've got two hooks for that day already, so that's not a good alternative. | 10,444 |
Adam Maraana (nom) | 29 July | 29 July | Queue 6 | My preference would be for this hook to run on 28 July, when the heats and semi-finals in 100 m backstroke will be held. Problem is that we have three Olympic hooks for that date already. Given that he's quite good, there is a chance that he'll make the final on 29 July. Hence let's take the gamble and go for that day. | 18,400 |
Victor Alvares de Oliveira (nom) | 29 July | 29 July | Queue6 | Submitted on 18 July hence this one might not make it in time. Alvares de Oliveira is going to compete in men's foil fencing, with all competitions to be held on 29 July. | 4,055 |
Solomon Islands at the 2020 Summer Olympics (nom) | none | One of the "foo at the YYYY Summer Olympics" hooks; can run on any day during the Olympics | 12,506 | ||
Alyssa Mendoza (nom) | none | 30 July | Queue 7 | Assuming that she is still featherweight, the women's 57 kg boxing competition begins on 30 July with the round of 32. | 8,941 |
Andy Barat (nom) | none | 30 July | Queue7 | Barat is going to compete in the men's slalom K-1, and that competition has its heats on 30 July. That's unfortunately the third article for this date. Before you promote to prep, please see the discussion above about combining this with the Alyssa Mendoza hook. | 5,982 |
Valentin Houinato (nom) | none | 30 July | Queue7 | Nominated to DYK late in the process. Houinato is set to compete in the men's 81 kg judo event, with all competitions held on 30 July | 5,618 |
Shachar Sagiv (nom) | none | 30 July | Queue7 | Men's triathlon is scheduled for 30 July starting at 8:00 | 2,221 |
Matthew Wright (triathlete) (nom) | none | 30 July | Queue7 | Nominated to DYK late in the process. Wright is set to compete in the men's triathlon, which is scheduled for 30 July starting at 8:00. Is there an opportunity to combine the two triathletes in this set into one hook if both nominations get reviewed in time? | 3,770 |
Dylan Travis (nom) | none | 31 July | Queue 1 | The first USA men's 3x3 game is on 30 July. Subsequent games are on 31 July, 1, 2, and 4 August if that date gets too crowded. | 9,788 |
2024 United States men's Olympic basketball team (nom) | 28 July | 31 July | Queen1 | The U.S. team plays in the preliminary round on 28 and 31 July and on 3 August. We already have too many hooks for 28 July, so any of the other two options will work better. | 11,252 |
Marcedes Walker (nom) | None | 1 August | Queue 2 | Walker is going to compete in the women's 3x3 basketball competition and they are playing a round robin round-robin tournament from 30 July to 3 August, playing every day. Hence, there's heaps of flexibility moving this hook around to suit. | 9,324 |
Warren Lawrence (nom) | none | 1 August | Queue2 | Nominated to DYK late in the process. Lawrence is set to compete in the men's 50 metre freestyle event, with heats and semifinals on 1 August. | 2,619 |
Suriname at the 1960 Summer Olympics (nom) | none | 1 August | Queue2 | One of the "foo at the YYYY Summer Olympics" hooks; can run on any day during the Olympics | 8,007 |
Emily Ausmus (nom) | none | 2 August | Queue 3 | Ausmus is competing in the women's water polo tournament in Group B, with preliminary round games held on 27, 29, and 31 July, and a game on 2 August. Any of those dates are suitable. | 7,627 |
Philippines at the 1924 Summer Olympics (nom) | none | 2 August | Queue3 | One of the "foo at the YYYY Summer Olympics" hooks; can run on any day during the Olympics. We do have an image but it's of rather poor quality. | 5,459 |
2024 World Athletics Relays – Mixed 4 × 400 metres relay (nom) | 2/3 August | 3 August | Queue 4 | The mixed 4 × 400 metres relay is scheduled for 2 and 3 August 2024.[1] | 4,961 |
Filomenaleonisa Iakopo (nom) | none | 3 August | Queue4 | Iakopo is scheduled to compete in the women's 100 metres, with the preliminary round scheduled to be held on 3 August. | 8,179 |
Apsara Sakbun (nom) | none | 3 August | Queue4 | Sakbun is going to compete in women's 50 metre freestyle swimming, with heats and semi-finals on 3 August. | 5,166 |
Mikaella Moshe (nom) | None | 3 August | Queue4 | Women's individual archery is already underway, so this can run anytime we want. That said, the finals are on 3 August. | 7,423 |
2022 European Athletics Championships – Women's 400 metres and 2022 European Athletics Championships – Women's 400 metres hurdles (nom) | none | 4 August | Queue 5 | This is the second hook that names Femke Bol. She is due to compete in 400 metres hurdles (heats on 4 August). | 809 |
Liechtenstein at the 1936 Summer Olympics (nom) | none | 4 August | Queue5 | One of the "foo at the YYYY Summer Olympics" hooks; can run on any day during the Olympics | 11,275 |
Kim Ye-ji (sport shooter) (nom) | none | 4 August | Queue5 | Has already competed; can run anytime | 39,422 |
Piper Kelly (nom) | None | 5 August | Queue 6 | Qualifications for women's speed climbing are on 5 Aug. | 7,202 |
Aniya Holder (nom) | 5 August | 5 August | Queue6 | Qualifications for women's speed climbing are on 5 Aug. | 4,329 |
Jamal Valizadeh (nom) | 5 August | 5 August | Queue6 | A late request. Valizadeh is set to competed in the men's Greco-Roman 60 kg competition, with proceedings kicking off on 5 August. | 10,928 |
Jenya Kazbekova (nom) | 6/8 August | 6 August | Queue 7 | Kazbekova is due to compete in women's combined sport climbing, with semifinals for the two competition elements (boulder and lead) split over two days: 6 & 8 August. Hence, this can run on either date. | 5,095 |
Zheng Haohao (nom) | none | 6 August | Queue7 | Zheng is due to compete in women's park skateboarding on 6 Aug. | 13,465 |
1964 Summer Olympics medal table (nom) | None | 6 August | Queue7 | Can run whenever. If Jamal Valizadeh gets signed off before Q6 goes live, we'll shift this backwards. | 4,806 |
Ruby Remati (nom) | None | 7 August | Queue 1 | The team artistic swimming event will be held on 5, 6, and 7 August. The hook could run on any of those days. | 8,049 |
Hadi Tiranvalipour (nom) | none | 7 August | Queue 1 | Tiranvalipour is set to competed in the men's 58 kg taekwondo on 7 August. | 6,545 |
Jesse Grupper (nom) | 7 August | 7 August | Queue 1 | Grupper is going to compete in the lead semifinal of the men's combined rock climbing. That date is not far away but if we can get this reviewed in a hurry, it'll fit into that date alright as we've only got other other nominations (on most days, we have three). | 7,069 |
Emmanuella Atora (nom) | 8 August | 8 August | Queue 2 | Atora is due to compete in women's 57 kg taekwondo (assuming that she's still in this weight class). The competition is to be held on 8 August. | 9,406 |
Sarah Levy (rugby union) (nom) | None | 8 August | Queue 2 | Can run whenever. | 4,845 |
Manizha Talash (nom) | none | 9 August | Queue 3 | Breaking or breakdancing is a new sport. Who would have known. The competition for females is on 9 August. | 11,032 |
Logan Edra (nom) | none | 9 August | Queue3 | Here's our second female breakdancer. Any chance of combining the two hooks? | 20,439 |
Sunny Choi (nom) | 9 August | 9 August | Queue3 | Well, that's our third female breakdancer. We really shouldn't have three individuals hooks for breakdancers on the same day. I've suggested a hook with this nomination and propose that we close the other two nominations and transfer the credits across. | 17,388 |
Gaku Akazawa (nom) | none | 10 August | Queue 4 | Akazawa is going to compete in the men's freestyle wrestling 65 kg, with the event scheduled to start on 10 August. | 7,387 |
Alasan Ann (nom) | none | 10 August | Queue4 | Ann is going to compete in the men's taekwondo +80 kg, with all events scheduled for 10 August. | 5,697 |
Kennedy Blades (nom) | none | 10 August | Queue4 | Blades is going to compete in the women's freestyle wrestling 76 kg, with the event scheduled to start on 10 August. | 32,679 |
Ada Korkhin (nom) | none | 11 August | Prep 5 | The women's 25 metre pistol competition is already underway and will finish on 3 August. Hence, this can run whenever. Currently scheduled for the closing ceremony date. | |
Minna Stess (nom) | none | 11 August | Prep 5 | Stess is set to compete in the women's park skateboarding event on 6 August. There are three hooks in Queue7 already, which will be published on that day. One of those—1964 Summer Olympics medal table—could theoretically be shifted back, but I've done enough hook shuffling lately. If it gets signed off in time, I shall defer to another admin to make it happen on that day. The alternative day that I've picked here is the day of the closing ceremony; that involves a lot less effort to make this happen. | |
Finn Butcher (nom) | 11 August | 11 August | Prep 5 | "The Butcher" has unexpectedly won the gold medal in the inaugural men's slalom kayak cross. As such, he has a good chance of being picked as New Zealand's flagbearer, making this a good hook for the closing ceremony date. UPDATE – that prediction was spot on as he's been picked as one of the two flagbearers. |
@SL93, BeanieFan11, and Arcahaeoindris: The article says "sentenced to life imprisonment" which isn't the same as "imprisoned for life". RoySmith (talk) 00:51, 4 August 2024 (UTC)
- I thought it was. I trust what you're saying though. ... that an American citizen was sentenced to life imprisonment for attempting to overthrow the government of Cambodia? SL93 (talk) 01:02, 4 August 2024 (UTC)
- Yes - what @SL93: said! Arcahaeoindris (talk) 15:51, 4 August 2024 (UTC)
- This queue is next up. SL93 (talk) 18:25, 7 August 2024 (UTC)
- 27 more minutes. I don't understand why this couldn't have been fixed days ago. SL93 (talk) 23:33, 7 August 2024 (UTC)
- @DYK admins: This should probably be amended.--Launchballer 23:44, 7 August 2024 (UTC)
- Done And sorry for not seeing this discussion earlier. Schwede66 23:54, 7 August 2024 (UTC)
- @DYK admins: This should probably be amended.--Launchballer 23:44, 7 August 2024 (UTC)
@Launchballer, Schwede66, and Hey man im josh: Substantial text duplication from eagles.rugby, news.northeastern.edu, and sajr.co.za. See the earwig report for details.
- You didn't sign the post, hence no ping eventuated, RoySmith. Let me repeat this exercise on your behalf: @Launchballer, Schwede66, and Hey man im josh: Schwede66 04:16, 4 August 2024 (UTC)
- I've left a message to the IP editor who did the expansion on my talk page. I assume that they keep an eye on my talk page. I agree that some copy-editing would need to happen before this can run. Schwede66 04:22, 4 August 2024 (UTC)
- Is there a way of purging Earwig's results? I tried to do some work on it earlier but the IP edit conflicted me, and it's still giving cached results.--Launchballer 19:26, 4 August 2024 (UTC)
- @Launchballer I wasn't previously aware that it did any caching, but I do see that there's a "Bypass cache" checkbox on the form, so maybe check that and see what it does? RoySmith (talk) 19:49, 4 August 2024 (UTC)
- Same problem. I'll try again in the morning.--Launchballer 20:10, 4 August 2024 (UTC)
- Addressed. Other than names, per this. --2603:7000:2101:AA00:34AF:AC34:37AD:2505 (talk) 20:36, 4 August 2024 (UTC)
- Same problem. I'll try again in the morning.--Launchballer 20:10, 4 August 2024 (UTC)
- @Launchballer I wasn't previously aware that it did any caching, but I do see that there's a "Bypass cache" checkbox on the form, so maybe check that and see what it does? RoySmith (talk) 19:49, 4 August 2024 (UTC)
- Is there a way of purging Earwig's results? I tried to do some work on it earlier but the IP edit conflicted me, and it's still giving cached results.--Launchballer 19:26, 4 August 2024 (UTC)
Extraneous Nom credit
[edit]The nomination credit to the Example editor that starts at the bottom of the credits with each empty set—* {{DYKnom|Example|Editor}}—has not been removed, as is supposed to happen when the set finally fills. Hoping that an admin can take care of this before the queue goes live. Thanks. BlueMoonset (talk) 04:05, 6 August 2024 (UTC)
- I've given things a bit of a tidy up. Empty lines deleted; noms are now in the right order (not that it matters; it only helps when you check hooks against credits). Schwede66 05:21, 6 August 2024 (UTC)
Older nominations needing DYK reviewers
[edit]The previous list was archived a few hours ago, so I've created a new list of 36 nominations that need reviewing in the Older nominations section of the Nominations page, covering everything through July 20. We have a total of 288 nominations, of which 130 have been approved, a gap of 158 nominations that has decreased by 8 over the past 6 days. Thanks to everyone who reviews these and any other nominations!
More than one month old
- June 15: Template:Did you know nominations/Mohan Charan Majhi (hook only)
- June 21: Template:Did you know nominations/Chand Sifarish (hook only)
- June 22:
Template:Did you know nominations/Keegan Baker - June 23:
Template:Did you know nominations/Lahug Airport - June 24: Template:Did you know nominations/Dus Bahane
- June 26:
Template:Did you know nominations/Brandiose - June 28: Template:Did you know nominations/Jab Se Tere Naina
- June 28: Template:Did you know nominations/List of people who use their middle names as their first names
- June 29: Template:Did you know nominations/Sun Zhiyang
- June 30: Template:Did you know nominations/Liza 'N' Eliaz
- July 1: Template:Did you know nominations/Norman Hunter (footballer)
- July 3: Template:Did you know nominations/South West Norfolk in the 2024 United Kingdom general election
- July 4: Template:Did you know nominations/Iktara (song)
- July 4: Template:Did you know nominations/Hadriana in All My Dreams
- July 5: Template:Did you know nominations/Quintus Quincy Quigley
- July 5: Template:Did you know nominations/Grace Panvini
- July 5: Template:Did you know nominations/David B. Gillespie
Other nominations
- July 7: Template:Did you know nominations/Motibai Kapadia
- July 7: Template:Did you know nominations/Huang Wenxiu
- July 8: Template:Did you know nominations/1954 Busan Yongdusan fire
- July 9: Template:Did you know nominations/superseded combination
- July 13: Template:Did you know nominations/Leanne Mohamad
- July 13: Template:Did you know nominations/Mama (My Chemical Romance song)
- July 13: Template:Did you know nominations/Margaret Coe
- July 13: Template:Did you know nominations/Nathaniel Coe
- July 13: Template:Did you know nominations/1974 Speech of Sheikh Mujibur Rahman at the United Nations
- July 14: Template:Did you know nominations/Trump raised-fist photographs
- July 14: Template:Did you know nominations/Liber OZ
- July 14: Template:Did you know nominations/Upper Ivory Coast
- July 15: Template:Did you know nominations/S1/S2 (Amsterdam Metro)
- July 15: Template:Did you know nominations/Tukdam
- July 16: Template:Did you know nominations/Pontic Greek culture
- July 17: Template:Did you know nominations/The Eternaut
- July 18: Template:Did you know nominations/Khalji Revolution
- July 19:
Template:Did you know nominations/8th National Eucharistic Congress (United States) - July 20:
Template:Did you know nominations/Begüm Pusat
Please remember to cross off entries, including the date, as you finish reviewing them (unless you're asking for further review), even if the review was not an approval. Please do not remove them entirely. Many thanks! BlueMoonset (talk) 18:07, 6 August 2024 (UTC)
Solid South
[edit]This article was nominated recently, and I attempted a review, but it appears the nominator misunderstood the nomination process. They nominated the article for DYK in connection with nominating it for GA, apparently not understanding that the article has to pass GA before it can be successfully nominated. I am slightly at a loss about how to proceed. Should I fail the nomination? Can the nominator then propose it for DYK again after (if) it achieves GA status? Or can it be withdrawn somehow? Thanks for any pointers. Yakikaki (talk) 19:47, 6 August 2024 (UTC) Edit: There's a brief exchange between me and the nominator on my talk page casting some light on the misunderstandning. Yakikaki (talk) 19:48, 6 August 2024 (UTC)
- Yes, the nomination should be failed. The article should be renominated if and when it passes GA. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 19:50, 6 August 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks, I see it has been closed as unsuccessful now. Yakikaki (talk) 19:52, 6 August 2024 (UTC)
When is a set going live (from javascript)
[edit]Is there any easy way to compute when a set is going live, from javascript? Basically, I want the text that's in the UTC column of Template:Did you know/Queue/LocalUpdateTimes. I took a look at the source for that and ran away screaming. I can see that it ends up calling Template:Did you know/Queue/LocalUpdateTimes/QueueCalculator but I can't figure out how to call that, i.e. what "offset" is supposed to be. RoySmith (talk) 15:17, 7 August 2024 (UTC)
- And related to that, @Theleekycauldron would it be possible to add something to PSHAW which provided a link in the prep/queue back to the nomination? Where I'm going with this is being able to click on one button and have a script generate a {{ping}} template for you which includes all the interested parties. RoySmith (talk) 15:44, 7 August 2024 (UTC)
- @RoySmith: When a set is going live? Should be easy – all you need is Template:Did you know/Next update/Time, User:DYKUpdateBot/Time Between Updates, and knowledge of multiplication. As for generating a backlink, I think it'd be a little extraneous given that backlinks are available in the credits ("View nom subpage"). theleekycauldron (talk • she/her) 08:09, 8 August 2024 (UTC)
- Ah, I didn't realize that's what the subpage was. Thanks, that gives me what I need. I'm still scratching my head over the details of how to compute the expected main page time for a queue; I'm pretty good at the mechanics of multiplication, but in this case I'm not quite sure how to find all the things that need to be multiplied. RoySmith (talk) 14:21, 8 August 2024 (UTC)
- @RoySmith: When a set is going live? Should be easy – all you need is Template:Did you know/Next update/Time, User:DYKUpdateBot/Time Between Updates, and knowledge of multiplication. As for generating a backlink, I think it'd be a little extraneous given that backlinks are available in the credits ("View nom subpage"). theleekycauldron (talk • she/her) 08:09, 8 August 2024 (UTC)
DYKUpdateBot appears to be down
[edit]Shubinator, the DYKUpdateBot did not swing into action today. I'll do a manual update. Schwede66 01:28, 8 August 2024 (UTC)
- All done. Schwede66 02:09, 8 August 2024 (UTC)
- Schwede66, it looks like you didn't clear Queue 2 after you promoted it to the main page. Any chance of getting that done? Many thanks for the manual update! BlueMoonset (talk) 03:27, 8 August 2024 (UTC)
- Oops. I missed step 10. Now done. Schwede66 04:05, 8 August 2024 (UTC)
- Schwede66, it looks like you didn't clear Queue 2 after you promoted it to the main page. Any chance of getting that done? Many thanks for the manual update! BlueMoonset (talk) 03:27, 8 August 2024 (UTC)
- I've restarted DYKUpdateBot, it's back in action. Thanks both for letting me know & the manual update! Shubinator (talk) 05:27, 8 August 2024 (UTC)
- Awesome. Thanks! Schwede66 08:46, 8 August 2024 (UTC)
Special Occasion review request for Siege of Perth
[edit]Unsure how best to make this request, but I had raised Template:Did you know nominations/Siege of Perth (1339) some time ago and thought it might be nice to run on 17 August as the anniversary of the end of the siege. Presuming there is no issue with this, I had wanted to highlight it here to request a review, allowing time to deal with any issues and avoid the nomination being overlooked. CSJJ104 (talk) 20:34, 8 August 2024 (UTC)
- You were within the six week window so as long as the review passes you should be good to go. NightWolf1223 <Howl at me•My hunts> 20:41, 8 August 2024 (UTC)
- Thank you for confirming, but my concern was more related to the fact that it has yet to receive a review, and we are getting close to the date. CSJJ104 (talk) 00:54, 10 August 2024 (UTC)
DYK for Aid climbing
[edit]I was away for a few weeks and had Aid climbing in the DYK queue, but never got a notice on my talk page that it appeared on the mainpage, and there is no DYK notice on the talk page of the article.
However, there didn't seem to be issues on Template:Did you know nominations/Aid climbing? My question is did the DYK appear on the main page, or was it pulled? thanks. Aszx5000 (talk) 10:10, 9 August 2024 (UTC)
- It ran. See [2].--Launchballer 10:21, 9 August 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks for that! Aszx5000 (talk) 17:22, 9 August 2024 (UTC)
- It seems like this was a fault of the PSHAW script (FYI theleekycauldron), where it converted a nominator's existing credit into another article (there were two articles by the same nominator). Sdrqaz (talk) 00:21, 10 August 2024 (UTC)
Discussion of three DYKs at WP:ERRORS which scrolled off without resolution. Andrew🐉(talk) 10:14, 9 August 2024 (UTC)
- ... that residents reported the first cycling club in Washington, D.C. (uniform pictured), to the police over concerns that bicycles posed a danger to pedestrians?
The article does not say or claim that this was "the first cycling club in Washington", just that it was "early".
Also, the source doesn't seem to mention pedestrians specifically – just of the "dangerous potential for accidents". Perhaps a concern was the risk of collisions with horses and/or people and property in general?
Note that the hook wasn't checked in the nomination even though it included a first. It was just waved through as AGF.
Andrew🐉(talk) 06:27, 8 August 2024 (UTC)
- I added the "first" claim to the article, citing the same source. Pinging Generalissima and BeanieFan11 to consider the other issues. Beanie, we strongly suggest additional scrutiny for "first" hooks. Firefangledfeathers (talk / contribs) 13:34, 8 August 2024 (UTC)
- I have to take some of the blame here, since I promoted the queue. It's especially embarrassing since ranting about "first" hooks is one of the top ways I make myself annoying at WT:DYK. The unfortunate truth is that when I'm processing queues, I don't have time to read every article in full. I generally just read the hook and then search for keywords in the text to verify the facts. Looking back at the article, I suspect I found "the first such club in the country" and didn't notice this was immediately preceded by "Boston Bicycle Club".
- I know this has been said before, but Andrew, you have a keen eye for detail and critical reading. These are valuable skills and in great demand at DYK, so thank you for the much-needed quality control. But it would be even more useful if it was done on the #Next DYK and #Next-but-one DYK sections, so we could catch these problems before they hit the main page. RoySmith (talk) 15:02, 8 August 2024 (UTC)
- Different point: the comma after the "(uniform pictured)" should instead come before. So, " ... Washington, D.C., (uniform pictured) to the police". JMCHutchinson (talk) 13:42, 8 August 2024 (UTC)
- ... that Olympic taekwondo practitioner Emmanuella Atora described her career as "I hit people for a living"?
According to the source, what she actually said was "Je tape les gens pour vivre". This was not translated by the source and it's not clear what she meant by it as Taekwondo is not usually a professional sport while she appears to have a career as an aspiring professional model. Andrew🐉(talk) 06:27, 8 August 2024 (UTC)
- Also, the line was a meme already, having been used by MMA fighter Francis Ngannou a year earlier [3]. Black Kite (talk) 07:23, 8 August 2024 (UTC)
- Well spotted. Francis Ngannou is a successful professional fighter and so the boast works better for him. There's merchandise too... Andrew🐉(talk) 08:51, 8 August 2024 (UTC)
- Also, the line was a meme already, having been used by MMA fighter Francis Ngannou a year earlier [3]. Black Kite (talk) 07:23, 8 August 2024 (UTC)
In the fourth hook, there doesn't seem to be any reason for "The" in "The Proms" to be capitalized. Primergrey (talk) 19:53, 8 August 2024 (UTC)
- @Primergrey Thanks for the report. The article is inconsistent on "the Proms" vs "The Proms"; it mostly uses "the", but there's enough instances of "The" to make me unsure what's the right thing to do here. I'll leave it the way it is now and ask about it on Talk:BBC Proms. You may want to follow that conversation. RoySmith (talk) 21:35, 8 August 2024 (UTC)
- Andrew Davidson, I don't know if you saw Roy's comment above about checking the "Next DYK" and "Next-but-one DYK" slots on WP:ERRORS before they go live, but I would echo it. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 10:23, 9 August 2024 (UTC)
- While their work is great, I do remember their comment of "If DYK published regular corrections then the shame might be a useful check and balance, helping to deter sloppy work." from July 1. Not doing the checks earlier and posting this section here might just be a way to shame contributors. SL93 (talk) 22:37, 9 August 2024 (UTC)
@Joeyquism, Morgan695, and AirshipJungleman29:
I changed the hook from "tickling" to "tickled" (and the appropriate grammar) because 1) that is how it is quoted in the source and the article (with the quote marks) and 2) the woman used forced perspective to make it look like she was tickling the statue, which necessitates the quote marks. Please ping if there are questions, concerns, or if different wording would be better. Z1720 (talk) 03:35, 10 August 2024 (UTC)
- Thank you, @Z1720; it looks mostly good. I do feel that "after she..." would work better than "when she" here; let me know what you think. joeyquism (talk) 03:44, 10 August 2024 (UTC)
@AirshipJungleman29, Gobonobo, and Lajmmoore: WP:CLOP vs https://poozeum.com/t-rex-poop (earwig). Also, WP:RSNP says "Editors have expressed concern that post-2008 records include paid coverage" for Guinness World Records. And the photo credit says " Photo courtesy of the Poozeum" and "own work", both of which I doubt. RoySmith (talk) 10:53, 11 August 2024 (UTC)
- PS, I've nominated the image for deletion on Commons RoySmith (talk) 11:31, 11 August 2024 (UTC)
- As noted at the image's deletion discussion, this provenance of the photo was already addressed at User talk:YetiStuff#Couple of things. My sense is that the uploader is not lying about being the owner of the coprolite images. I'm not seeing any problem with the GWR reference as it is not being used to establish notability, but the article would suffer little if it had to be removed. The one instance of close paraphrasing I saw has been addressed, but if there is anything else, please ping me. gobonobo + c 13:34, 11 August 2024 (UTC)
@AirshipJungleman29, Schwede66, and Z1720: I'm going to go out on a limb and say WTF? As noted in the nomination template, the nominator is indef blocked for copyright violation. The nom was failed, and that was overridden by an IP. Is this really what we want to be showcasing on the main page? It's also another "first" hook, and considered the earliest deep-sea shipwreck to be discovered
in the article got turned into the wikivoice statement is the earliest deep-sea shipwreck
. In the hook. My recommendation is this be pulled. RoySmith (talk) 11:27, 11 August 2024 (UTC)
- I am familiar with the original nominator, have rejected several of their nominations for WP:NONENGPLAG, and have recommended against unblocking them on their userpage. I have checked this article over, and I was unable to find similar violations. The article itself meets the reasoning at WP:DYKAIM, there is no meaningful difference between the hook and the relevant cited sentences in the article, and the hook is in fact relatively conservative—it has been suggested to be the oldest complete shipwreck ever found, deep-water or not (only two other Bronze Age shipwrecks with cargo have been found in the Mediterranean). I would advise against pulling. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 12:16, 11 August 2024 (UTC)
- One of the things which makes it difficult for me to evaluate this is that most of the sources are in Hebrew. That's perfectly fine in general, and we often WP:AGF on foreign-language sources, but in this case we're dealing with an author who has a history of copyright issues, so AGF becomes more difficult. I'd really want this text to be checked over by somebody with a native reading knowledge of Hebrew. If that's you, great, I'll be happy to go with your evaluation. If not, then I think we need to look for one. RoySmith (talk) 12:53, 11 August 2024 (UTC)
- Given that this is already on Queue we'd really want to get it right this time, so regardless if AJ29's check is sufficient it should probably be pulled temporarily until we're absolutely sure it checks. Since you're a sysop, maybe you can do the honors? Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 13:28, 11 August 2024 (UTC)
- I've swapped it out to Prep 6 which at least will give us a few days to look at it. RoySmith (talk) 13:41, 11 August 2024 (UTC)
- We should engage with the IP editor. I’m pretty certain that they can read Hebrew. I’ll ask them. Schwede66 15:07, 11 August 2024 (UTC)
- I've swapped it out to Prep 6 which at least will give us a few days to look at it. RoySmith (talk) 13:41, 11 August 2024 (UTC)
- WP:NONENGPLAG refers to direct or superficially modified translations of sources in other languages—for this, Google Translate is sufficient. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 15:25, 11 August 2024 (UTC)
- Well, if you trust a copyright check based on a machine translation for an article written by somebody who is indeffed for copyvios, go for it. It's not something I want to put my signature on. RoySmith (talk) 15:57, 11 August 2024 (UTC)
- They have been indeffed for copyvios because of copyright checks based on machine translations. If you feel that machine translations are not accurate enough to check copyrights, you should accept their unblock request immediately and apologise for a block based on insufficient reasoning. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 16:26, 11 August 2024 (UTC)
- Well, if you trust a copyright check based on a machine translation for an article written by somebody who is indeffed for copyvios, go for it. It's not something I want to put my signature on. RoySmith (talk) 15:57, 11 August 2024 (UTC)
- Given that this is already on Queue we'd really want to get it right this time, so regardless if AJ29's check is sufficient it should probably be pulled temporarily until we're absolutely sure it checks. Since you're a sysop, maybe you can do the honors? Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 13:28, 11 August 2024 (UTC)
- One of the things which makes it difficult for me to evaluate this is that most of the sources are in Hebrew. That's perfectly fine in general, and we often WP:AGF on foreign-language sources, but in this case we're dealing with an author who has a history of copyright issues, so AGF becomes more difficult. I'd really want this text to be checked over by somebody with a native reading knowledge of Hebrew. If that's you, great, I'll be happy to go with your evaluation. If not, then I think we need to look for one. RoySmith (talk) 12:53, 11 August 2024 (UTC)
- Looking at this, I wondered why it was called "Orca Shipwreck" which the article didn't explain. Most English language sources such as the BBC, Scientific American and NYT don't use this name. I've amended the title so that it is now Canaanite shipwreck which also uses the correct sentence case. If the hook is run, then it should be adjusted accordingly but I'm not sure where the hook is in the pipeline now. Andrew🐉(talk) 10:10, 12 August 2024 (UTC)
- There's an argument to be made, given the ballaches caused by the blocks of both Evrik and Owenglyndur, that nominators with blocks of more than two weeks should automatically forfeit their nominations. Issues could conceivably be found at any point and there's no point going through the motions if the nominators physically can't fix them.--Launchballer 10:25, 12 August 2024 (UTC)
Island
[edit]@ForksForks, Silver seren, and AirshipJungleman29:
- ... that animals can colonize islands by riding tropical cyclones?
I could not find in the article where this was stated. The source used in the DYK nom was only used once in the article as an inline citation, to support the statement: "One case study showed that in 1995, fifteen iguanas survived a 300 km journey to Anguilla in the Caribbean, an island which no iguana had lived on previously. They survived floating on a mass of uprooted trees from a storm."
The hook implies that the animals used the storm to travel, but the sentence in the article says the animals travelled on trees uprooted by a storm. Does the text in the article need to change, or should a different ALT hook be used? Z1720 (talk) 23:47, 11 August 2024 (UTC)
- Looks like I grabbed the wrong source. See this Nat Geo article in the source [4] (Paywalled, sorry)
- per the source’s lead image caption: “Hurricane Isaias approaches Myrtle Beach, South Carolina, on August 3, 2020. The storm's floodwaters spread more than a hundred invasive species, according to the U.S. Geological Survey.”
- Though it looks like the source does not directly imply that it is the wind transporting animals, I read that in a source I don’t have available on my phone right now I believe — propose adding “the floodwaters produced by” before “tropical cyclones” if you desire to be specific.
- I am also OK with switching to the original proposed hook about species extinction risk. Up to you. ForksForks (talk) 00:29, 12 August 2024 (UTC)
- Reading this back, I actually think I’d rather we just run the original hook about extinction and I’ll work on resolving this issue in the article when I’m back on stable internet. ForksForks (talk) 01:06, 12 August 2024 (UTC)
- try this link Rjjiii (talk) 02:25, 12 August 2024 (UTC)
- I felt that riding the storm and riding the ocean that produces and sustains the storm are pretty much the same thing, but if that has to be specifically said (i.e. "riding the waves of tropical cyclones?") would that work? ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 10:50, 12 August 2024 (UTC)
- No, tropical cyclones don't have waves, waves are just an effect they cause in water. Animals can colonize islands through floats on normal currents, the cyclone addition is purely DYK hook factor. CMD (talk) 11:31, 12 August 2024 (UTC)
@Generalissima, Epicgenius, and AirshipJungleman29:
I have added a cn tag to the article: this will need to be resolved before it goes on the main page. Z1720 (talk) 00:05, 12 August 2024 (UTC)
- Oops - this has now been fixed. Generalissima (talk) (it/she) 01:06, 12 August 2024 (UTC)