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Please enable the different parameters home and origin to be used at the same time

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Right now only one can be chosen to be displayed into a given Infobox, which is irrationally limiting. For example Superman's origin is Krypton but his home is Metropolis - but only either of these parameters can be used at the same time, instead of both. 5.173.80.72 (talk) 10:25, 24 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Template-protected edit request on 7 June 2024

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added the word Last game and its meaning Marisoft69 (talk) 23:29, 7 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. DonIago (talk) 02:19, 8 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
has to be the same as the | Fistgame = and the description. Marisoft69 (talk) 02:51, 18 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Template-protected edit request on 18 June 2024

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hi i want added the word "Last game" and significant please Marisoft69 (talk) 02:48, 18 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

You have last appearance, that should be fine. Gonnym (talk) 06:07, 18 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
 Not done for now: please establish a consensus for this alteration before using the {{Edit template-protected}} template. Nardog (talk) 23:17, 18 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Religion field

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Religion is not supposed to be displayed in biography infoboxes, per WP:INFONAT and the RFC referenced by Template:Infobox person. Template:Infobox religious biography can be used for people who actually have a religious occupation or are part of the content of a religion, but I don't see any of those currently using {{Infobox character}} searching on "insource:/\{\{[Ii]nfobox character.*religion *= *[A-Z]/". I was planning to empty out this field; is there a preferred procedure? I could change the template to indicate it is deprecated, move the content to some place in the article body, or just drop this information and assume that if it's important it would have been covered in the article body. -- Beland (talk) 17:21, 5 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I disagree that fictional characters should be treated the same as biographies of real people; MOS:FICTION makes very clear that the two are to be treated differently. — HTGS (talk) 06:15, 6 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Okey! MOS:WAF-INFO doesn't mention religion or ethnicity specifically; it requires in-universe data in infoboxes to be "essential". Since not too many articles are using this field, why don't I do a deep database scan and see how it is being used, and we can discuss which are appropriate. -- Beland (talk) 09:45, 7 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I am happy with that idea. I wouldn’t be surprised if we find—and agree!—that most characters using the field should not have their religion listed so prominently in the lead/infobox. — HTGS (talk) 04:42, 8 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I found 447 character bios that are using the religion field. Due to length, I have posted the list below in a separate subsection. If you want to use this as a todo list for dropping the field from articles where it's clearly not appropriate, feel free to drop or strike out entries on the list as you go, so it's clear what's left to consider. -- Beland (talk) 05:59, 12 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@HTGS: A new database dump has become available, so I could regenerate the report, but as far as I know, no one has gone through this list and pruned any instances. Were you intending to do that? If not, I can go through and drop instances I think are inappropriate, and see if any page editors object. -- Beland (talk) 19:53, 25 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I've started going through and dropping the field where it seems inappropriate to me, deleting those entries from the list and annotating entries where I've kept it. -- Beland (talk) 00:00, 27 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Sorry, I clearly wasn′t paying enough attention to see your list there haha. In the interest of making clearer when to include/exclude, I have written a guideline into the documentation. In my mind, we should be able to exclude religion from the infobox at Homer Simpson, but include at Ned Flanders. Does that sound like a reasonable line in the sand to you? — HTGS (talk) 20:49, 14 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
For a real person, we wouldn't include religion in the infofox unless Ned Flanders was a religious figure like a priest or saint or similar. I would put the distinction at "religious figure" rather than "major element of characterization" as the template documentation now says. -- Beland (talk) 21:11, 14 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Character bios with data in religion field

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List of articles with "Infobox character" and data in "religion" field

References

  1. ^ Indiana Jones and the Dinosaur Eggs
  2. ^ Taylor, Helen (1989). Scarlett's Women: Gone with the Wind and Its Female Fans. Rutgers University Press. p. 62. ISBN 9780813514963. scarlett o'hara catholic.
  3. ^ Thornhill, Colleen (June 3, 2014). "Morello – Everything You Need to Know to Watch 'Orange Is the New Black' Season Two". Complex. Retrieved October 14, 2017.
  4. ^ Episode 12 of Season 2 "Grandma Got Run Over By a Reindeer"
  5. ^ "The Second Chance". The O.C.. Season 2. Episode 11. February 3, 2005. Fox.
  6. ^ "Pee Wee Harris Looks at Duty to God", Boys' Life (Dec. 2016).
  7. ^ In Chapter VIII, mention is made of her having "a Prayer-Book all confusedly heaped about the looking-glass."
  8. ^ Weber, Lindsey (December 17, 2014). "Friends Countdown: Is Rachel Green Jewish?". Vulture.
  9. ^ Weber, Lindsey (December 17, 2014). "Friends Countdown: Is Rachel Green Jewish?". Vulture.
  10. ^ "The Rocker in the Rinse Cycle". Bones. Season 5. Episode 19. April 29, 2010. Fox.
  11. ^ Jack Donaghy: "The American public doesn't want your elitist, east coast, alternative, intellectual, left-wing..." Liz: "Jack, just say Jewish, this is taking forever." from episode "Stone Mountain"
  12. ^ Fitzgerald 1925, p. 209; Slater 1973, p. 56.
  13. ^ "Rick: A Mort Well Lived". Rick and Morty. Season 6. Episode 2. September 11, 2022. Adult Swim.
  14. ^ Coburn's dogtags in "Chuck Versus the Angel de la Muerte"

Non-occupations

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I would like to put in a request to discourage people from submitting pseudo-occupations for characters who don't have any regular job or profession. Ernest T. Bass, from The Andy Griffith Show, was listed with the occupations of "troublemaker, hillbilly". Ramona Quimby, a child character from children's books by Beverly Cleary, was listed with the occupations of "Imaginator and Beezus' Best Friend". Those aren't occupations. I don't what we can do about that here, though, except to put in a note saying something like "occupation -- do not list an occupation for characters who have no job". -- Metropolitan90 (talk) 00:06, 9 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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