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Reassessment of article Kulpahar
I do believe that data on Kulpahar is not up-to the mark but that is what is expected from a B-class article. I know that Hospitals section just have names of the hospitals I don't have any references of them, now how to authenticate them. At most I can put the services offered by them, the same is the case with Banks and treasuries. If you could have a look at article Allahabad then you'll find that article in the same tone, but that article has been rated as B-class just because it is a well known city of India? Either that article should be downgraded to start-class or all the articles of the same tone should be upgraded to B-class. It is almost impossible to put references about a lesser known places. i put two book references about Kulpahar those I could found only after extensive googling of more than 2 years (few months back there wasn't any book reference available on google). There are many books which describe Kulpahar but contains no ISBN number and I found them irrelevant and providing references of those book doesn't comply to standard. Let me know if I'm moving in a wrong direction. --Rohit Saxena (talk) 13:35, 1 July 2008 (UTC)
Added more references on the article page. Kindly review it.--Rohit Saxena (talk) 20:17, 1 July 2008 (UTC)
Just checkout Allahabad Article it has only 3 references but still managed to get B-class article status. Why this biased judgement??--Rohit Saxena (talk) 20:28, 1 July 2008 (UTC)
Other Mangalore names
When googling the names I only got results from Wiki mirror sites, if you have the correct web or even offline references like say from a book please insert it there using templates as per Wikipedia:Citation templates. Meanwhile like earlier I have not deleted the passage, I have only marked it off so that it can be reinserted by removing the mark off tags (or whatever they call it)--PremKudvaTalk 10:33, 10 January 2008 (UTC)
Infant Jesus
You should also add the Infant Jesus annual feast to Mangalore culture section. That is another big Roman Catholic festival which is popular to non-catholics too. Devotees throng Infant Jesus shrine--PremKudvaTalk 04:05, 12 January 2008 (UTC)
Promotional content
Hi. You are not permitted to add promotional content, regardless of any considerations (at the event, there is no 300-word requierment, anyway). Please cease reverting, or you may be subject to censure. More talking, less reverting nonneutral, poorly-spelled additions. Thanks. El_C 11:40, 21 January 2008 (UTC)
- If you feel that strongly that this film company is that important to the city article so as to warrant mention, please try to gain consensus for its inclusion on the talk page. We do not ordinarily include companies that are in "their infancy," irrespective of their "potential." If the claim is true, once their potential is actualized, then it can be included in the article. Discussion is key, however. Back and forth reversions are unhelpful. El_C 11:46, 21 January 2008 (UTC)
Hey
Hey,
Great job with the Essel World and WaterKingdom additions as well as the Bombay Darshan addition. I totally forgot they even existed! Thanks to you, I have added them to the tourism of mumbai template. Nikkul (talk) 20:20, 29 January 2008 (UTC)
Poverty of India Image
There is a discussion going on regarding whether or not the following image should be a part of the Poverty in India page. Most Poverty in *Country* pages do not have any images, at most 1. User:Otolemur crassicaudatus has brought many images showing extreme poverty in India and has tried to mislead people into thinking this is the way a majority of poor Indians live. There is a vote in which your input would be appreciated. You can find this discussion here
I feel that the the Bodhgaya Beggar image does not represent poverty in India correctly because:
- The beggar in Bodhgaya image does not accurately depict poor people in India because they do not look like this. This man is an exception. To say that this man represents all poor people in India is very wrong. A small minority of Indias poor are disabled. Most living under the poverty line work long hours fishing, farming or as construction workers. This picture shows a man whose legs have been broken. Unless a majority of India's or even a fraction of the poor have legs like this, the image is irrelevant and undue to the poverty in india page.
- Poverty and Disability are not connected in any way. There are thousands of super rich people who are disabled.
- There are 11 country articles on poverty
- These have NO images: Poverty in Pakistan, Poverty in Africa, Poverty in China, Poverty in Australia, Poverty in Canada, Poverty in Malaysia, Poverty in Switzerland, Social issues in Brazil,
- These have 1 image Poverty in the United States, Poverty in France
- The Poverty in India page is the only one with more than 1 image. And the only reason for this is because User:Otolemur crassicaudatus has brought more and more images onto the page.
- This user is being uncivil and unyielding.
- This image is being used by User:Otolemur crassicaudatus to display his dislike of India and to mislead people into thinking that this is the plight of millions of poor Indians. This user has often added images showing extreme poverty to many India relating articles.[1] Even though this user knows that poverty is present in every country and that extreme poverty is not a fair representation of the Indian economy, this user has previously tried to add an image of children washing their clothes in a mud puddle to the economy section of the India page. This user has added this image to the poverty section of the Economy of India page, when a graph showing poverty would make more sense.
- WP:Undue says:
- We should not attempt to represent a dispute as if a view held by a small minority deserved as much attention as a majority view. Views that are held by a tiny minority should not be represented except in articles devoted to those views. To give undue weight to a significant-minority view, or to include a tiny-minority view, might be misleading as to the shape of the dispute.
This can be applied to this because a very tiny fraction of poor people in India are disabled. Most work very hard trying to make a living for themselves. This image is misleading. Nikkul (talk) 02:47, 30 January 2008 (UTC)
Kensplanet, in your talk page this user has made wild accusations on me. I will request you please read the relevant sections on Talk:Poverty in India to give you an inside in this user and to understand who is incivil. You please read the texts like these [2], [3], [4]. The Bodggaya beggar image is more appropriate than others because:
- You may know, many beggars live a condition like this, many of them have various disabilities.
There is no "typical" definition of poverty, or beggar. There are abled beggar, disabled beggar. The purpose of the article is depicting poverty. The other beggar images which this user want to place deleting the Bodhgaya beggar image are not good quality, one is B&W, and the other depicting a beggar girl in Ladakh. But my objection here is that Ladakh is quite different from rest of the country because of its geographics. Majority Indians live in plain. And this Bodhgaya beggar image is showing poverty at its most extreme level. It is not right to conceal the situation of poor men like this, it is the truth, the reality. This image touches the heart of the reader, which is a real situation. Yes not all beggars are disabled, but is this an argument? On the other hand it also can be said that not all beggars are abled. Our job here is not to understand who is abled, or who is not. But to find a good image which is representative of many.
- This user is repeatating his arguments and has taken a densive position by his ad hominem attack on me. Any one do not agree with him, here I am trying to depict poverty, and he is labelling me as Indophobic. There are other editors who honoured me for my contributions. The only reason given against this image that "since all beggars have not messed up legs, this image is undue". But it is an anti-individualistic argument. So what if not all beggars do not have messed up legs? The fact is that such secenes is a reality and it would not be right to conceal it. Such scenes exists, it is the truth. If it is reality, if such scenes exits, then an article depicting poverty i.e. "the condition of lacking full economic access to fundamental human needs such as food, shelter and safe drinking water", only those images should remain which clearly illustrate this fact.
- This user has informed many partisan editors, like User:Bakasuprman about the image. This user also informed this to banned Hkelkar socks. I will also request you check this user's contributions. Please remember the article is not about India, but the article is about poverty. This article is not depicting India, depicting poverty in India. So such image is not deriding India, it is illustrating the poverty in India. This image, I think, will be very appropriate. I have told you why I am supporting the includsion of this image. Regards. Otolemur crassicaudatus (talk) 06:29, 30 January 2008 (UTC)
Link to Gokarnanatheshwara Temple
here is the link Gokarnanatheshwara Temple --Crazysoul (talk) 10:28, 1 February 2008 (UTC)
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about asessment of Remo Fernandes
Hey please add some comments!! -hydkat 10:39, 6 March 2008 (UTC)
Request
You've done some good work recently, but please be very careful of WP:OR and WP:RS. Everything should be impeccably sourced. Relata refero (talk) 15:46, 8 March 2008 (UTC)
Speedy deletion of Roman Catholicism in Northern Cyprus
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What was the outcome of GA nomination of Mangalorean Catholics ?? - Tinucherian (talk) 16:26, 11 March 2008 (UTC)
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There is a revote on the FA leave comments page of this article. You are invited to reexamine the article and either confirm or deny your previous support vote by voting again. Thanks. NancyHeise (talk) 08:15, 13 March 2008 (UTC)
Peer review feedback
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Team Welcome!
Thanks for your application to join the WikiProject India Assessment Team - a very hearty welcome!
During your welcome phase, please note that your assessments and comments are likely to be monitored to ensure that all articles are assessed in the same way, and I will give you feedback where I think it's necessary so that you know what else to include in your comments/considerations. More importantly, it's so that you know what to include when you assess articles in the future (although, I still haven't had a chance to update with you feedback as yet). Once the welcome phase has passed, I will only check your assessments/comments every now and then (to check for consistency between assessments/comments). The only time in which an assessment of another assessor may be overruled is when the main assessor feels that there is some inconsistency, but I am likely to leave some additions/comments on the page of why I feel the change is needed.
At this stage, I think your skills are better utilized as a peer-reviewer, as your most recent one was reasonably detailed, and the best part is; peer-reviews do not need to be consistent with each other. I have added your name to the peer-review team. There are already several articles listed there - feel free to go through them, as there haven't been many peer-reviews for a while here.
Wish you all the best as a member of the WikiProject India peer-review department - Ncmvocalist (talk) 02:16, 16 March 2008 (UTC)
Re: Anand (2004 film)
Hi! Sorry for my delayed reply. I had put it up for a peer-review with the hope of receiving some constructive feedback then. However, as a lot of time went by, I couldn't sustain my interest. Thanks anyways for the offer. Cheers! Mspraveen (talk) 14:36, 20 March 2008 (UTC)
mangaladevi image
sorry dude.. it was indeed uploaded by me. How to add the tag what u needed? please explain --Crazysoul (talk) 10:36, 26 March 2008 (UTC)
just check if it is ok now --Crazysoul (talk) 10:45, 26 March 2008 (UTC)
well... i've imformed dr cash
skyline image
i haev one comment on townhall pic as skyline image.
The Town hall at Bangalore also looks smiliar to that of Mangalore. Asiatic society of Mumbai also looks similar. --Crazysoul (talk) 11:06, 26 March 2008 (UTC)
Thanks for reviewing the article. Have a few questions, please give your input to improve the article.--Redtigerxyz (talk) 14:21, 28 March 2008 (UTC)
Rightful recepient of the award
Hi Ken,
The barnstar you awarded is accepted with grace. But you are the rightful recipient for actually having done all the footwork to bring the article up to GA status. Till then all we used to do was just keep on adding stuff to the article.
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Hi, I'm sorry that I removed the image so fast. It looks like everything's OK now, so I hope that there's no hard feelings. east.718 at 01:25, April 11, 2008
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deepika padukone
Hello dear,, Deepika Padukone is a Konkani Chitrapur Saraswat Brahmin,and not a Kannadiga at all
DEEPIKA PADUKONE
I knw her uncles neighbors in bangalore... her uncle is a Chitrapur... n m a konknai too
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Hi again. A relatively new (and inexperienced) editor has approached me asking if they could join the peer review department. You will find their request at the bottom of my talk page. While we're still in the lengthy process of tweaking our assessment processes and criteria at the assessment department (like I said earlier), the peer review department (fortunately) doesn't rely on these, or on much experience.
I think as your peer reviews have been helpful, and you've kept the peer review department more active than it was before, maybe you'd like to help him out and let him know how it all works? Ncmvocalist (talk) 15:02, 27 April 2008 (UTC)
- Just realised you're back since late April - in any case, welcome back. Ncmvocalist (talk) 08:55, 29 June 2008 (UTC)
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Was there a GA review conducted before you passed it as a GA? Mspraveen (talk) 10:36, 21 June 2008 (UTC)
- Of this article itself. It is quite common to conduct a formal GA review before you pass any article. As far as I see from the article talk page, it wasn't conducted before you passed it as a GA. Please clarify. Mspraveen (talk) 10:44, 21 June 2008 (UTC)
- Okay, but the ideal way is to first conduct the review and only then update in the project banners. Furthermore, the use of the huge images for checking for different criteria is way too huge. it takes time to load up esp. for those with dial-ups. Kindly utilize different options such as
Done using {{done}}. Cheers! Mspraveen (talk) 10:49, 21 June 2008 (UTC)
- Okay, but the ideal way is to first conduct the review and only then update in the project banners. Furthermore, the use of the huge images for checking for different criteria is way too huge. it takes time to load up esp. for those with dial-ups. Kindly utilize different options such as
Finally
At last someone has come forward to hone this article. And that person is YOU! KnowledgeHegemonyPart2 (talk) 16:47, 22 June 2008 (UTC)
- Confused...I am quite sure, as only one incident took place in Thane...will have to look for few more in Thane...let's me search...KnowledgeHegemonyPart2 (talk) 14:38, 24 June 2008 (UTC)
Wikiproject Mangalore
Hi , thanks for inviting me to join WIkiproject Mangalore. I havent edited any Manglaore related article for over a year so I don't really think I belong there. You have done a great job on the articles and there are other users who are more involved in the project , so the article is in good hands. --Deepak D'Souza (talk • contribs) 11:43, 30 June 2008 (UTC)