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::: Hi Pbsouthwood, Greeting to you. I am working on the short description on the sport person article, stating with combat sports, and since the short description is said to limit (preferably) to 40 character, I used "MMA fighter" instead of "mixed martial arts fighter" and BJJ practitioner instead of "Brazilian jiu jitsu" as MMA and BJJ are very commonly used in the media and just like UN for United Nation or USSR for Union Soviet Socialist of Republics. I just want to make sure it is ok to use MMA/mma and BJJ/bjj in the short description tag (I have done about 300 pages of using these abbreviation already). Kindly advise. Thank you. [[User:CASSIOPEIA|<b style="font-family:Georgia;font-size:80%;color:#FA0"> CASSIOPEIA</b>]]<sup>([[User talk:CASSIOPEIA|<b style="#0000FF">talk</b>]])</sup> 08:33, 22 December 2018 (UTC) |
::: Hi Pbsouthwood, Greeting to you. I am working on the short description on the sport person article, stating with combat sports, and since the short description is said to limit (preferably) to 40 character, I used "MMA fighter" instead of "mixed martial arts fighter" and BJJ practitioner instead of "Brazilian jiu jitsu" as MMA and BJJ are very commonly used in the media and just like UN for United Nation or USSR for Union Soviet Socialist of Republics. I just want to make sure it is ok to use MMA/mma and BJJ/bjj in the short description tag (I have done about 300 pages of using these abbreviation already). Kindly advise. Thank you. [[User:CASSIOPEIA|<b style="font-family:Georgia;font-size:80%;color:#FA0"> CASSIOPEIA</b>]]<sup>([[User talk:CASSIOPEIA|<b style="#0000FF">talk</b>]])</sup> 08:33, 22 December 2018 (UTC) |
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::::Hi {{U|CASSIOPEIA}}, I tend to go for intelligibility in preference to brevity, but there is no broad consensus, so you can do what you can justify to anyone who queries. I use the short descriptions as link annotations, and for that purpose longer works just fine. I will not force them into a short format just because the reading team at WMF find it convenient for their current needs, and 100 characters of clarity beats 40 characters of confusion in my books. Obviously sometimes you can be both brief and clear, but a lot of the time it is one or the other. Consider the reader. Will the average reader know what your abbreviations mean? If yes, then they will probably be fine. If no, then they are not serving a useful purpose. MMA would be meaningful to me, as a non-follower with a bit of background, but BJJ would tell me nothing. You probably need to consult a few other potential users to get a better idea for those examples. I would not use those abbreviations, but I can't tell you to not to. Cheers, · · · [[User:Pbsouthwood|Peter (Southwood)]] [[User talk:Pbsouthwood|<sup>(talk)</sup>]]: 09:15, 22 December 2018 (UTC) |
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:{{U|The Transhumanist}}, I have had no trouble with [[Portal:Geography]] and [[Portal:Technology]], but [[Portal:History]] timed out first try. It will have to be trimmed some way. Fine looking portals though! Cheers, · · · [[User:Pbsouthwood|Peter (Southwood)]] [[User talk:Pbsouthwood|<sup>(talk)</sup>]]: 09:29, 22 December 2018 (UTC) |
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Hi. We're into the last five days of the Women in Red World Contest. There's a new bonus prize of $200 worth of books of your choice to win for creating the most new women biographies between 0:00 on the 26th and 23:59 on 30th November. If you've been contributing to the contest, thank you for your support, we've produced over 2000 articles. If you haven't contributed yet, we would appreciate you taking the time to add entries to our articles achievements list by the end of the month. Thank you, and if participating, good luck with the finale!
WikiProject Genealogy - newsletter No.5 -2017
Newsletter Nr 5, 2017-12-30, for WikiProject Genealogy (and Wikimedia genealogy project on Meta)
Participation: This is the fifth newsletter sent by mass mail to members in Wikipedia:WikiProject Genealogy, to everyone who voted a support for establishing a potential Wikimedia genealogy project on meta, and anyone who during the years showed an interest in genealogy on talk pages and likewise. (To discontinue receiving Project Genealogy newsletters, please see below) A demo wiki is up and running! Dear members of WikiProject Genealogy, this will be the last newsletter for 2017, but maybe the most important one! You can already now try out the demo for a genealogy wiki at https://tools.wmflabs.org/genealogy/wiki/Main_Page and try out the functions. You will find parts of the 18th Pharao dynasty and other records submitted by the 7 first users, and it would be great if you would add some records. And with those great news we want to wish you a creative New Year 2018!
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Portals tasks requests: presented in the newsletter below...
Axestone?
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You may prevent the proposed deletion by removing the {{proposed deletion/dated}}
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Wikipedia:WikiProject Portals update #023, 25 Nov 2018
There are now 4,180 portals.
Will we break 5,000 by the end of the year?
I know we can. But, that is up to you!
( New portals are created with {{subst:Basic portal start page}}
or
{{subst:bpsp}}
)
Happy Holidays
Hello everyone! Enjoy the holiday season and winter solstice (if it's occurring in your area of the world), and thanks for your work in maintaining, improving, and expanding portals. Cheers, — The Transhumanist 06:51, 26 November 2018 (UTC)
- Spread the WikiLove; use {{subst:Season's Greetings}} to send this message
Jingling along
The following portals have been created since the last issue:
- Advanced Micro Devices
- Aqua Teen Hunger Force
- Aquatic ecosystems
- Blackberries
- Blade
- Blake and Mortimer
- Climate
- Democratic Party
- Dua Lipa
- Eels
- Eggs
- Emmy Awards
- Fallout
- Flutes and whistles
- Geophysics
- Ghost
- Hartford Whalers
- HBO
- Hot sauces
- International System of Units
- Jawaharlal Nehru
- Kendrick Lamar
- KFC
- Kingdom of England
- M.I.A.
- Marvel Comics
- Marvel Entertainment
- Minerals
- Mixed martial arts
- Money
- MTV
- Museums
- National Hockey League
- Natural resources
- Nature
- NBC
- Nehru–Gandhi family
- Orthoptera
- PATH
- Pears
- Physiology
- Ponds
- Pope Francis
- Potatoes
- Presidents of the United States
- Republican Party
- Salad dressings
- Santiago
- Six Flags
- Stan Lee
- Starbucks
- Stem cells
- Systems of measurement
- SZA
- The West Wing
- Tintin
- Tomato sauces
- Tove Lo
- Viticulture
- Waffles
- Wendy's
- White House
- Will Smith
- Winemaking
Keep 'em coming!
By the way, the above list was generated using this Petscan query. It can be easily modified by changing the date. The data page (under the Output tab) also has options for receiving the data in CSV or tabbed format, which some operating systems automatically load into a spreadsheet program for ease of use, such as copying and pasting the desired column (like page names).
In closing
We'll keep it short this issue.
Expect a flood next time. Or the one after that.
Cheerio, — The Transhumanist 07:25, 26 November 2018 (UTC)
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Administrators' newsletter – December 2018
News and updates for administrators from the past month (November 2018).
- Al Ameer son • Randykitty • Spartaz
- Boson • Daniel J. Leivick • Efe • Esanchez7587 • Fred Bauder • Garzo • Martijn Hoekstra • Orangemike
Interface administrator changes
- Following a request for comment, the Mediation Committee is now closed and will no longer be accepting case requests.
- A request for comment is in progress to determine whether members of the Bot Approvals Group should satisfy activity requirements in order to remain in that role.
- A request for comment is in progress regarding whether to change the administrator inactivity policy, such that administrators "who have made no logged administrative actions for at least 12 months may be desysopped". Currently, the policy states that administrators "who have made neither edits nor administrative actions for at least 12 months may be desysopped".
- A proposal has been made to temporarily restrict editing of the Main Page to interface administrators in order to mitigate the impact of compromised accounts.
- Administrators and bureaucrats can no longer unblock themselves unless they placed the block initially. This change has been implemented globally. See also this ongoing village pump discussion (permalink).
- To complement the aforementioned change, blocked administrators will soon have the ability to block the administrator that placed their block to mitigate the possibility of a compromised administrator account blocking all other active administrators.
- Since deployment of Partial blocks on Test Wikipedia, several bugs were identified. Most of them are now fixed. Administrators are encouraged to test the new deployment and report new bugs on Phabricator or leave feedback on the Project's talk page. You can request administrator access on the Test Wiki here.
- Voting in the 2018 Arbitration Committee Elections is open to eligible editors until Monday 23:59, 3 December 2018. Please review the candidates and, if you wish to do so, submit your choices on the voting page.
- In late November, an attacker compromised multiple accounts, including at least four administrator accounts, and used them to vandalize Wikipedia. If you have ever used your current password on any other website, you should change it immediately. Sharing the same password across multiple websites makes your account vulnerable, especially if your password was used on a website that suffered a data breach. As these incidents have shown, these concerns are not pure fantasies.
- Wikipedia policy requires administrators to have strong passwords. To further reinforce security, administrators should also consider enabling two-factor authentication. A committed identity can be used to verify that you are the true account owner in the event that your account is compromised and/or you are unable to log in.
- Shock Brigade Harvester Boris (Raymond Arritt) passed away on 14 November 2018. Boris joined Wikipedia as Raymond arritt on 8 May 2006 and was an administrator from 30 July 2007 to 2 June 2008.
Adding multiple citations in Vis editor
Thanks for the note on my phabricator request from last year. There was not a way to ping you, so I just wanted to let you know that I responded. I do not have any strong feelings about naming references, but being able to add names in visual editor is something that I would definitely use. Thanks again, have a great day! JenOttawa (talk) 14:43, 7 December 2018 (UTC)
- @JenOttawa:, you are welcome, I find the apparent indifference of WMF developers to the problems of Wikipedia editors both baffling and disturbing. Cheers, · · · Peter (Southwood) (talk): 14:58, 7 December 2018 (UTC)
- Darn, I meant to vote on the community wish list and missed it!! https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Community_Wishlist_Survey_2019/Citations/VisualEditor:_Allow_references_to_be_named. JenOttawa (talk) 15:13, 7 December 2018 (UTC)
- Actually (not thanks to my help) it was voted #5 so I guess this may happen.[1] Sorry about all the messages! JenOttawa (talk) 15:15, 7 December 2018 (UTC)
- I missed it too. So it goes. Fortunately enough people didn't miss it. #5 is a strong finish.
- This is my talk page, I am fine with getting messages on it:-) Cheers, · · · Peter (Southwood) (talk): 14:56, 8 December 2018 (UTC)
- Actually (not thanks to my help) it was voted #5 so I guess this may happen.[1] Sorry about all the messages! JenOttawa (talk) 15:15, 7 December 2018 (UTC)
- Darn, I meant to vote on the community wish list and missed it!! https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Community_Wishlist_Survey_2019/Citations/VisualEditor:_Allow_references_to_be_named. JenOttawa (talk) 15:13, 7 December 2018 (UTC)
Short description
Hi Rbsouthwood, Greetings to you. I just want to know the tag {{short description|xxx xxx}}
and {{SHORTDESC:xxx xxx}}
is the same thing and it will transport the information to Wikidata. I am adding short description to articles and would like to know which one is the correct format. Thanks for the advice in advance. Cheers. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 07:05, 12 December 2018 (UTC)
- Hi CASSIOPEIA, I am delighted to hear that you will be doing this, there is enough work for all of us. Please use
{{short description|xxx xxx}}
as it adds useful maintenance categories. I am busy converting all the bare magic word versions{{SHORTDESC:xxx xxx}}
which do not add categories and don't show up with the same scripts to the template version, so eventually there should not be any. I assume you have read the project page, but please feel welcome to ask and discuss if there are any points that need clarification and if you have any good ideas. Cheers, · · · Peter (Southwood) (talk): 09:06, 12 December 2018 (UTC)- Hi Pbsouthwood, Thank you for the advice above. cheers. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 12:46, 12 December 2018 (UTC)
- Hi Pbsouthwood, Greeting to you. I am working on the short description on the sport person article, stating with combat sports, and since the short description is said to limit (preferably) to 40 character, I used "MMA fighter" instead of "mixed martial arts fighter" and BJJ practitioner instead of "Brazilian jiu jitsu" as MMA and BJJ are very commonly used in the media and just like UN for United Nation or USSR for Union Soviet Socialist of Republics. I just want to make sure it is ok to use MMA/mma and BJJ/bjj in the short description tag (I have done about 300 pages of using these abbreviation already). Kindly advise. Thank you. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 08:33, 22 December 2018 (UTC)
- Hi CASSIOPEIA, I tend to go for intelligibility in preference to brevity, but there is no broad consensus, so you can do what you can justify to anyone who queries. I use the short descriptions as link annotations, and for that purpose longer works just fine. I will not force them into a short format just because the reading team at WMF find it convenient for their current needs, and 100 characters of clarity beats 40 characters of confusion in my books. Obviously sometimes you can be both brief and clear, but a lot of the time it is one or the other. Consider the reader. Will the average reader know what your abbreviations mean? If yes, then they will probably be fine. If no, then they are not serving a useful purpose. MMA would be meaningful to me, as a non-follower with a bit of background, but BJJ would tell me nothing. You probably need to consult a few other potential users to get a better idea for those examples. I would not use those abbreviations, but I can't tell you to not to. Cheers, · · · Peter (Southwood) (talk): 09:15, 22 December 2018 (UTC)
- Hi Pbsouthwood, Greeting to you. I am working on the short description on the sport person article, stating with combat sports, and since the short description is said to limit (preferably) to 40 character, I used "MMA fighter" instead of "mixed martial arts fighter" and BJJ practitioner instead of "Brazilian jiu jitsu" as MMA and BJJ are very commonly used in the media and just like UN for United Nation or USSR for Union Soviet Socialist of Republics. I just want to make sure it is ok to use MMA/mma and BJJ/bjj in the short description tag (I have done about 300 pages of using these abbreviation already). Kindly advise. Thank you. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 08:33, 22 December 2018 (UTC)
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Merry Xmas
"And the angel said unto them, Fear not: for, behold,
I bring you good tidings of great joy, which shall be to all people.
For unto you is born this day in the city of David a Saviour, which is Christ the Lord."
Luke 2:10-11 (King James Version)
Ozzie10aaaa (talk) is wishing you a Merry Christmas.
This greeting (and season) promotes WikiLove.
Spread the cheer by adding {{Subst:Xmas4}} to their talk page with a friendly message.
--Ozzie10aaaa (talk) 14:08, 13 December 2018 (UTC)
- Ozzie10aaaa, Thank you for the kind thought. Regards, · · · Peter (Southwood) (talk): 14:50, 13 December 2018 (UTC)
Outline of underwater diving
Hi Pbsouthwood
I am totally lost as to how I am can remove mistakes from outlines, such as Outline of underwater diving - I have tried looking for the template referred to, but I cannot find it, probably because I am using the wrong syntax.
The problem is in Outline_of_underwater_diving#Repositories where the word "Reasearch" needs correcting to "Research" - I have searched for {{annotated link|Rubicon Research Repository}} but cannot find this
Please do not just correct this mistake, but please explain where this is, so I can deal with similar problems in the future - Thanks - Arjayay (talk) 15:24, 14 December 2018 (UTC)
- Hi Arjayay. Annotated links (using {{annotated link}}) get the annotation from the linked page. The annotation used is the WP:short description of the linked page, so to fix one, just click on the link to go to the page, then edit the short description. If you have Galobtter's short description editing gadget it is very convenient, otherwise simply open the lead section, and edit the text in the short description template. It is usually the first or second line, but in rare cases may be elsewhere, and a search for the string
{{short description|
will take you directly to it. It is also possible for a short description to be generated from another template, like the place name infobox. If that throws up a bad short description, override it by manua\ly adding a short description at the top of the article source code. I will leave the example you mentioned for you to fix, as then I will know my explanation was successful, and I know it is a simple representative example, so should be straightforward. Hope this helps, Cheers, · · · Peter (Southwood) (talk): 16:27, 14 December 2018 (UTC)- Thanks for the explanation; I have now corrected it. I wasn't expecting the mistake to be on a redirect page - I tried Wikidata and numerous combinations looking for a template
Live and learn - thanks again - Arjayay (talk) 16:41, 14 December 2018 (UTC)- Sorry Arjayay, I clean forgot to mention that possibility. My bad. That would make it a lot less intuitive to find. Good work for managing anyway. Cheers, · · · Peter (Southwood) (talk): 04:24, 15 December 2018 (UTC)
- Thanks for the explanation; I have now corrected it. I wasn't expecting the mistake to be on a redirect page - I tried Wikidata and numerous combinations looking for a template
NPR Newsletter No.16 15 December 2018
Hello Pbsouthwood,
- Reviewer of the Year
This year's award for the Reviewer of the Year goes to Onel5969. Around on Wikipedia since 2011, their staggering number of 26,554 reviews over the past twelve months makes them, together with an additional total of 275,285 edits, one of Wikipedia's most prolific users.
- Thanks are also extended for their work to JTtheOG (15,059 reviews), Boleyn (12,760 reviews), Cwmhiraeth (9,001 reviews), Semmendinger (8,440 reviews), PRehse (8,092 reviews), Arthistorian1977 (5,306 reviews), Abishe (4,153 reviews), Barkeep49 (4,016 reviews), and Elmidae (3,615 reviews).
Cwmhiraeth, Semmendinger, Barkeep49, and Elmidae have been New Page Reviewers for less than a year — Barkeep49 for only seven months, while Boleyn, with an edit count of 250,000 since she joined Wikipedia in 2008, has been a bastion of New Page Patrol for many years.
See also the list of top 100 reviewers.
- Less good news, and an appeal for some help
The backlog is now approaching 5,000, and still rising. There are around 640 holders of the NPR flag, most of whom appear to be inactive. The 10% of the reviewers who do 90% of the work could do with some support especially as some of them are now taking a well deserved break.
- Really good news - NPR wins the Community Wishlist Survey 2019
At #1 position, the Community Wishlist poll closed on 3 December with a resounding success for NPP, reminding the WMF and the volunteer communities just how critical NPP is to maintaining a clean encyclopedia and the need for improved tools to do it. A big 'thank you' to everyone who supported the NPP proposals. See the results.
- Training video
Due to a number of changes having been made to the feed since this three-minute video was created, we have been asked by the WMF for feedback on the video with a view to getting it brought up to date to reflect the new features of the system. Please leave your comments here, particularly mentioning how helpful you find it for new reviewers.
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I've made up my mind
Instead of giving presents 🎁 this year, I'm giving my opinion. Get excited!! 🎅🏻🎄🤶🎁 Atsme✍🏻📧 02:43, 15 December 2018 (UTC)
- I have been doing that for years;-) Cuts down on shopping time and angst. Cheers, · · · Peter (Southwood) (talk): 04:15, 15 December 2018 (UTC)
- Good idea! I think I might try that. Except with my girlfriend. — The Transhumanist 09:04, 20 December 2018 (UTC)
- I have been doing that for years;-) Cuts down on shopping time and angst. Cheers, · · · Peter (Southwood) (talk): 04:15, 15 December 2018 (UTC)
Please check these flagship portals
I've upgraded the following 3 portals that are listed at the top of the Main Page:
I think they might be pushing the envelope on server time. History, especially — accessing Wikipedia:Vital articles/Level/4/People seems to be taking up a lot of server time, but I don't know how to check that explicitly. Geography and Technology have been up and running for a day or so, and no reports so far.
Let me know if you get any time out errors.
Thank you.
Sincerely, — The Transhumanist 09:04, 20 December 2018 (UTC)
P.S.: pinging @Dreamy Jazz, AfroThundr3007730, Waggers, Bermicourt, AmericanAir88, and Gazamp:
- The Transhumanist, I have had no trouble with Portal:Geography and Portal:Technology, but Portal:History timed out first try. It will have to be trimmed some way. Fine looking portals though! Cheers, · · · Peter (Southwood) (talk): 09:29, 22 December 2018 (UTC)
WikiProject X Newsletter • Issue 13
This month: A general update.
The current status of the project is as follows:
- Progress of the project has been generally delayed since September due to development issues (more bitrot than expected, some of the code just being genuinely confusing, etc) and personal injury (I suffered a concussion in October and was out of commission for almost two months as a result).
- I currently expect to be putting out a proper call for CollaborationKit pilots in January/February, with estimated deployment in February/March if things don't go horribly wrong (they will, though, don't worry). As a part of that, I will properly update the page and send out announcement and reach out to all projects already signed up as pilots for WikiProject X in general, at which point those (still) interested can volunteer specifically to test the CollaborationKit extension.
- Wikipedia:WikiProject X/Pilots was originally created for the first WikiProject X prototype, and given this is where the project has since gone, it's only logical to continue to use it. While I haven't yet updated the page to properly reflect this:
- If you want to add your project to this page now, feel free. Just bear in mind that more information what to actually expect will be added later/included in the announcement, because by then I will have a much better idea myself.
- Until then, you can find me in my corner working on making the CollaborationKit code do what we want and not just what we told it, per the workboard.
Until next time,