Talk:George Floyd protests

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Skirmish in Minneapolis on May 26

The only skirmish (as in actual physical one) I've seen mentioned is between vandal protestors and peaceful protestors trying to stop them. The only source that mentioned it was NYT. It is not mentioned as the reason police fired at the crowd. Why wasn't this corrected?

"They rallied peacefully on the steps with a megaphone and signs. Then, as night closed in, they started wandering home. But a rowdy group peeled away, spray painting graffiti on the police precinct house wall. Someone smashed the window of an empty police cruiser. “This is not OK,” a young female protester can be overheard saying on a video later posted to Facebook. A scuffle broke out. “Everybody go home,” someone screamed." LéKashmiriSocialiste (talk) 20:47, 9 January 2021 (UTC)

There was a skirmish between police and demonstrators on May 26. Greta Kaul, a reporter for the MinnPost, published a seven-day timeline on June 1, 2020. Here's what she reports about Tuesday, May 26:

Thousands gathered, with a peaceful protest marching from Cup Foods to the Minneapolis Police Department’s Third Precinct Headquarters on Minnehaha Avenue near Lake Street. But as the evening wore on, tension escalated. The MPD’s Third Precinct headquarters was damaged, and at around 8 p.m., police began firing chemical agents and rubber bullets at protesters, some of whom had allegedly thrown water bottles at the police. Later, as rain set in, most protesters dispersed, per MPR’s Jon Collins.

Is this helpful? Minnemeeples (talk) 21:02, 21 January 2021 (UTC)

Ongoing

Really? They virtually stopped in August, see File:Graph of BLM demonstrations 24 May - 22 August 2020 by ACLED.png. Wikisaurus (talk) 11:16, 19 January 2021 (UTC)

The data source for that graph is ACLED on September 3, 2020. They discussed how protests in U.S. summer months broadened and then declined in number. And they said, "The demonstrations remain ongoing. Though reported events associated with the BLM movement have gradually declined since their peak in late May and early June, ACLED still continues to record dozens of demonstrations each week (see graph below)." Even the source behind that graph doesn't make the claim that George Floyd protests are over. Minnemeeples (talk) 16:16, 20 January 2021 (UTC)

I would agree that it is no longer ongoing, I do not agree that August is really a definitive end date.

Slatersteven (talk) 11:34, 19 January 2021 (UTC)

The date is November 1, and I had sourced it, but a new editor removed it, and Wikipedia is notorious enough for letting "anybody edit" and including personal views that contradict WP:RS or the literal fact that the protests ended LONG ago, just based on individual users opinions. So I don't bother helping with that reputation anymore. For more accurate media we know that George Floyd protests are over, here they are just including the ongoing BLM features on an article over the individual protests over the death of George Floyd protests that ended back in November 1. Regardless I don't care about this WP:Fancruft anymore!Dilbaggg (talk) 09:28, 20 January 2021 (UTC)

What was the source for November 1? What was the basis for their conclusion that the protests ended then? Kire1975 (talk) 15:43, 20 January 2021 (UTC)

The November 1, 2020, source did not say the protests had ended. A Reuters article that interviewed a handful of people in Houston, Texas, United States described how Floyd's death was a motivating factor to vote in the U.S. elections. This article was discussed in the talk archive here. Minnemeeples (talk) 02:22, 26 January 2021 (UTC)

The protest movement over Floyd's death is not over according to many reliable secondary sources. There is an ongoing occupation protest at George Floyd Square, the street intersection of East 38th Street and Chicago where Floyd was killed in Minneapolis. Protesters have blocked off the street and made several demands of the city, including the immediate trial of the four officers. Here two articles from January 7, 2021 about it: [1] and [2]. The protest there was the subject of a monthlong series by Minnesota Public Radio in December 2020. More recently, one of the arguments for delaying the trial of the officers is the anticipation of further demonstrations[3]. Minnemeeples (talk) 16:03, 20 January 2021 (UTC)

Also, see Talk:George Floyd protests/Archive 2 where the issue was discussed extensively. Minnemeeples (talk) 16:08, 20 January 2021 (UTC)

I agree with Minnemeeples. Massive things have been going on every day in Portland since May. The only thing that's over is either that it's not getting news coverage, or people have stopped updating these pages. Kire1975 (talk) 01:33, 22 January 2021 (UTC)

In that case it would help to include the January events in the article, or add a chronology of sorts. NoNews! 01:12, 23 January 2021 (UTC)

Good idea. I added some recent sources and context to help explain the ongoing nature. I will add more soon. Several secondary sources from late January 2021 discussed the prospect of continued unrest around the trial of the four officers (e.g., this article). There might need to be a way to capture potential unrest related to new developments in the case against the officers. Minnemeeples (talk) 02:22, 26 January 2021 (UTC)

No Riots and Looting Section?

There was widespread violence from Black Lives Matter protesters in various cities all around America which has caused the death of police officers and destruction of property. I'm concerned about there being no section explaining the violence. I feel like the editors are biased and left leaning. Please add a deicated sextion explaining the violence. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 103.2.198.75 (talk) 18:24, 27 January 2021 (UTC)

If only there was a section called "Violence and controversies" we could do just that.... FDW777 (talk) 18:27, 27 January 2021 (UTC)

Oh yes thank you.