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:First of all, sorry about my mistaken statement that there had never been a [[Wikipedia:Article incubator/POLQA]]. I looked for that and there was no log record of its ever having existed, but of course I had to look for [[POLQA]], which is where it had been moved to, and therefore where the log record was to be found. Having said that, I have looked back at the article as it existed at the end of the AfD and also as it existed when re-created. There had been a number of edits, perhaps most notably the addition of four external links, evidently the "external references" that you refer to. These four are a page on POLQA's own site, two pages on marketing sites, and a dead link. These do nothing at all to indicate notability, and certainly do not "[demonstrate] the original deletion complaint was in error". The article incubator is meant for short term keeping of pages while they are corrected, not a way of retaining an article long-term after it has been decided it should be deleted, and when an AfD discussion has resulted in a consensus to delete, a matter of several months have passed, and attempts to address the issues which led to that decision have been unsuccessful, I think it is usually not justifiable to re-create yet again the article which it has been decided should be deleted, whether in userspace, the "article incubator", or anywhere else. However, I am willing to email you a copy of the article if you like. If you have a Wikipedia account then you can enable email in your account preferences and I can email it to you. (Of course, you can just post me your email address here if you like, but I wouldn't encourage anyone to post their email address on a publicly visible Wikipedia page.) [[User:JamesBWatson|JamesBWatson]] ([[User talk:JamesBWatson#top|talk]]) 17:08, 13 November 2010 (UTC)
:First of all, sorry about my mistaken statement that there had never been a [[Wikipedia:Article incubator/POLQA]]. I looked for that and there was no log record of its ever having existed, but of course I had to look for [[POLQA]], which is where it had been moved to, and therefore where the log record was to be found. Having said that, I have looked back at the article as it existed at the end of the AfD and also as it existed when re-created. There had been a number of edits, perhaps most notably the addition of four external links, evidently the "external references" that you refer to. These four are a page on POLQA's own site, two pages on marketing sites, and a dead link. These do nothing at all to indicate notability, and certainly do not "[demonstrate] the original deletion complaint was in error". The article incubator is meant for short term keeping of pages while they are corrected, not a way of retaining an article long-term after it has been decided it should be deleted, and when an AfD discussion has resulted in a consensus to delete, a matter of several months have passed, and attempts to address the issues which led to that decision have been unsuccessful, I think it is usually not justifiable to re-create yet again the article which it has been decided should be deleted, whether in userspace, the "article incubator", or anywhere else. However, I am willing to email you a copy of the article if you like. If you have a Wikipedia account then you can enable email in your account preferences and I can email it to you. (Of course, you can just post me your email address here if you like, but I wouldn't encourage anyone to post their email address on a publicly visible Wikipedia page.) [[User:JamesBWatson|JamesBWatson]] ([[User talk:JamesBWatson#top|talk]]) 17:08, 13 November 2010 (UTC)

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Congrats

Thanks for finally blocking that vandal ClapBoy380, he was really becoming a nuiseance. Have a cookie!

--Rusted AutoParts (talk) 13:49 29 October 2010 (UTC)

St. John's University

Please take a look at the talk page of the school. We have been attempting to talk to IP 97 as well as CATruthWatcher. (which appear to be sockpuppets). They have been ignoring talk requests.24.239.153.58 (talk) 08:35, 5 November 2010 (UTC) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:St._John%27s_University_(New_York)#St._John.27s_University.2C_NY_Vandalism_-_El_Krevbo.27s_and_24.239.153.58.27s_anti-St._John.27s_vitriol —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.239.153.58 (talk) 08:39, 5 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The above user has an extreme agenda and is operating under several aliases - "ElKrevbo," "DC," and "24.239.153.58. Those aliases are "we." I have never seen one person so intent on destroying the reputation of a university. All I ask is that he be fair: he cannot do that. I attempted to discuss the issue on the talk page, although he only dismisses it. He absolutely has an agenda -- I would say a loathing, rabid hatred hatred -- that is destroying a community page meant to educate people in a neutral way. (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 08:47, 5 November 2010 (UTC).[reply]

Apologies that you've been drug into this situation. The first anonymous editor above - 24.239.153.58 - is correct in that this is a messy situation with one editor using sockpuppets to make multiple edits in opposition to several other editors. At the same time, he or she is labeling all of these other editors "sockpuppets" and "vandals." .58 is getting a bit carried away in his or her edits and reversions but it's quite understandable in the face of such ridiculous accusations and blatant misconduct. So please be careful about inserting yourself into this situation without taking some time to look through everything (personally, I wouldn't touch it with a ten-foot pole unless obliged to do so). ElKevbo (talk) 14:58, 5 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

This is a classic example of a situation that looked from Huggle as though it was a straightforward question of vandalism. The first post above prompted me to look deeper, and it became clear that it was a much more complex issue, and I decided that I too "wouldn't touch it with a ten-foot pole". I don't know and frankly don't want to know all of the background, but it looks to me as if neither side deserves much sympathy. I did think of protecting the page to stop the infantile edit warring, but that would have meant protecting one side's version or the other, so I decided to leave it. Maybe someone braver than me will sort it out. JamesBWatson (talk) 19:31, 5 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
(missing a comment from me which I couldn't post here for some technical reason. Sent email to JamesBWatson instead). I just asked for a block of .58, but I don't know how far that will go. Should know in a few days, I guess. Only affects one of his IPs anyway. Student7 (talk) 22:06, 6 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Had my talk page protected.

That should put a thorn in the little twit's shorts. I didn't suggest you, since you're an admin. HalfShadow 20:43, 6 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Yes. I will consider doing that if the problem persists, but I am always reluctant to take that step, as it stops legitimate new users from communicating. I wonder what you and I have in common that causes us to be targets. Maybe you reported original account to AIV and I blocked, or something. JamesBWatson (talk) 20:55, 6 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Oh him. No wonder I have no idea who it was; I don't have a memory for IPs. HalfShadow 21:21, 6 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

User:Nayansatya image uploads

As you are the 'blocking' admin, I figured you would be the person to contact.

I'm finding some possibly unfree contributions from this user (2 raised on WP:PUI already), Would you be willing to check their recent upload history, as owing to thier block they cant exactly respond quickly, Or do I have to formally request an investigation for that to happen? Sfan00 IMG (talk) 11:42, 7 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I've had a quick look look, and the situation looks to me very doubtful indeed. I'll have another look when I have more time, but I think it may be necessary to report it at Wikipedia:Contributor copyright investigations or somewhere else to get more help. However, I will try to look at it again soon. JamesBWatson (talk) 21:22, 7 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

A request for comment regarding the overall layout of the TM topic area is ongoing here. As you have commented previously your analysis of the best way forwards would be appreciated. Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 17:01, 7 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

About iWallet - Hi Tech Hard Case Wallet

Hi,

This is regarding your deletion of the page about iWallet.

iWallet is a new invention done by Mr.Steve Cabouli who invented this wallet with the help of the engineers of NASA. And I feel this as the special wallet.

May I know for why the page is deleted?

Thanks John —Preceding unsigned comment added by 122.171.9.3 (talk) 14:42, 8 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

You will need to be more specific as to exactly what article you are referring to. There has never been an article entitled iWallet, nor Hi Tech Hard Case Wallet, nor iWallet - Hi Tech Hard Case Wallet, so I can't find the relevant record. JamesBWatson (talk) 15:13, 8 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Just to let you know that your prod on Tank kshatriyas was removed by an IP and I've taken the article to AfD since I couldn't find any evidence of notability, either. GiftigerWunsch [TALK] 16:00, 8 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Kerri Dunn page deletion?

Hi JamesBWatson,

I'm new to Wikipedia but wanted to know why you deleted the Kerri Dunn page. She has been brought up over and again by numerous figures on the Right and Left for being one of the first instances of fake hate crimes.

All the best, Heinleinscat —Preceding unsigned comment added by Heinleinscat (talkcontribs) 01:36, 9 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The article was proposed for deletion by RJC, the reason given being "Topic of the article seems notable for one event only." If you look at the guideline on people notable for only one event you will see that there is doubt as to whether this is sufficient to establish notability. An article which is proposed for deletion is normally deleted if nobody has objected after a week. However, if you think the subject is notable enough to justify an article it can be restored. If so then it will be up to the person who proposed deletion to decide whether to pursue the matter further. JamesBWatson (talk) 08:12, 9 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

User talk:83.80.82.4 needs to be blocked again......

...for consistant and continued vandalism which goes on and on....... Please take some action. Viva-Verdi (talk) 04:24, 9 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Edit War Notice

Please see this talk page. - methecooldude Contact 09:55, 9 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

please respond

Hello - you declined an article about West World Media but I do think that somehow you reviewed a previously submitted version. This is the intended version which is not an advert. Please respond to this. Thanks! Suzesilk (talk) 14:04, 9 November 2010 (UTC)suzesilk[reply]

My talk page is not the right place to post an AFC submission, so I have removed it. At a quick look it seems fairly promotional to me, but I suggest submitting it to AFC if you want it considered, not to my talk page. JamesBWatson (talk) 14:12, 9 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The article List of exorcists has been proposed for deletion because of the following concern:

The criterion for exorcist stated here includes every priest prior to the Second Vatican Council. This is not a notable criterion for a list. A new criterion should be established or the list should be deleted

While all contributions to Wikipedia are appreciated, content or articles may be deleted for any of several reasons.

You may prevent the proposed deletion by removing the {{proposed deletion/dated}} notice, but please explain why in your edit summary or on the article's talk page.

Please consider improving the article to address the issues raised. Removing {{proposed deletion/dated}} will stop the proposed deletion process, but other deletion processes exist. The speedy deletion process can result in deletion without discussion, and articles for deletion allows discussion to reach consensus for deletion.

—Preceding unsigned comment added by Dkriegls (talkcontribs) 17:15, 9 November 2010

I wonder why you are telling me about that. I made a couple of minor edits to the article back nine months ago, but have no special interest in it. JamesBWatson (talk) 21:41, 9 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

furious production issue

you deleted furious production article and it was not an copy right issue or a form of advertisement. it only talked about the group, when we started and the members. i am the owner of furious production and furiousproduction.com, what i posted was not an copy right issue because i am the owner of it —Preceding unsigned comment added by Tradag (talkcontribs) 17:35, 9 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

  1. If you are the owner then you have a conflict of interest, and probably should not be writing an article on the subject.
  2. Anyone can edit Wikipedia and claim to be anyone. We cannot accept the unsubsantiated word of an anonymous editor. That is why the message on your talk page gave instructions how to offer copyright material.
  3. The article was distinctly promotional in character, and at some points was written in the first person. If you sincerely did not see what you wrote as promotional then my guess is that you are so closely involved in the subject that you are unable to step back and see how your writing will look to an outsider. This is, in fact, one of the main reasons why the conflict of interest guideline strongly discourages editing of articles on subjects in which you have a personal involvement. JamesBWatson (talk) 21:56, 9 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Hi JamesBWatson. The semi-protection on Mister World 2010 has expired and anonymous IPs are once again substituting the name Mohammed Al Maiman for Kenneth Okolie as 2nd runner up [1][2]. Would you restore the semi-protection, please? Many thanks. Susfele (talk) 01:48, 10 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Salted page recreated

Any idea how the page on Ray William Johnson was recreated? The log leads me to think that no non-sysop user should be able to create it.--Terrillja talk 04:56, 10 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

To begin with I too was puzzled by this, and thought that something had gone wrong with the protection. However, looking more closely I see that it is quite simple. The protection on Ray William Johnson has repeatedly been evaded by re-creating the article under other titles (RayWilliamJohnson and Ray W. Johnson). On two occasions an editor has made a good faith decision to move one of these re-creations to Ray William Johnson, which seemed like a better title. On each occasion the editor who did the move happened to be an administrator, and so was able to make the move. I have deleted the article and protected Ray W. Johnson (RayWilliamJohnson is already protected). However, I daresay this will simply mean that we get Ray W Johnson or Ray Wm Johnson or something. JamesBWatson (talk) 09:44, 10 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Ok, that makes sense. Looking at the protection log, I was quite confused as to how it kept getting protected and then recreated. Well, thanks for deleting it.--Terrillja talk 19:44, 10 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
There's a new Ray William Johnson, now under his other name on Youtube, Equals Three. --John KB (talk) 02:44, 11 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Hi James. Lest I look a fool, between the time I tagged the above-captioned article CSD#G7 (approx. 3:00AM EST) and the time you came along to assess it (approx. 6:20AM EST), the author had re-added material (approx 6:00AM EST). Thanks! — SpikeToronto 05:55, 10 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

No, you don't look a fool at all. In fact I should perhaps apologise for using too curt an edit summary. I suppose a more complete version would have been "Declining speedy deletion. In view of the way that the editing has gone subsequent to the speedy deletion tagging, it seems to me that that the author's removal of most of the content did not indicate a request for deletion". Probably somewhere between that rather verbose version and the very brief version I actually used would have been better. JamesBWatson (talk) 09:51, 10 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Hi James! Thanks for your response. In any case, I realize that I should have paid closer attention to the timestamps and noted that it was too soon to mark it for speedy deletion. At the time, assuming it would not have been too soon, I was a little uncertain as to which criterion should have applied: CSD#G7 or CSD#A3. What does one do when the creator and only substantial contributor of content does not entirely empty an article, but reduces it to only one sentence? Does one use CSD#G7 because the article has been essentially de-contented? Or, does one use CSD#A3 because the article has essentially no content? Or, does some other course of action apply? I have started a thread here to poll other wikieditors who work with speedies. Perhaps you might want to participate? Thanks! — SpikeToronto 21:04, 10 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Protection problem

Hello. The reason why the protection for Ray William Johnson seems to have repeatedly failed, may be that administrators can move a page upon a protected title without noticing and without leaving a log entry. Seems to have happened to me and to WereSpielChequers previously. There should be an explicit warning before and if acknowledged a protection log entry afterwards. Right now we do not seem to have either. --Tikiwont (talk) 10:34, 10 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, after I made the protection with the log entry which you are no doubt referring to I realised what was happening, and described the situation at Salted page recreated above. JamesBWatson (talk) 10:37, 10 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks, I noticed the thread above after posting own posting.--Tikiwont (talk) 10:43, 10 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Hi JamesBWatson, sorry about that. I have written my reasons for placing this template under deletion on the discussion page. Basically, the template has no use. It is written in the Turkish language and uses Joshua Project as sources which is an unreliable source.Turco85 (Talk) 13:08, 10 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

why did you delete fact? when you do not know if it is fact or not?

What I have written is 100% true and factual and I do not know why someone who has no knowledge of what I am writing about would delete the post straight away.

I am asking you to reconsider your deletion for the benefit of the people who were apart of this proud event that happened.

thank you for your time. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Chuuuur44 (talkcontribs) 13:13, 10 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

You must be referring to D Block vs. H Block. It may well be true, but by no stretch of the imagination is it suitable as an encyclopaedia article. It appears to refer to parochial events within a school, with no sources to indicate notability. If you wish I can restore the article, but if I do so I will immediately take it to articles for deletion, where it will be discussed and I have little doubt it will be deleted. Let me know if you want me to do that. JamesBWatson (talk) 13:20, 10 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Hi

Please look at Revision history of Template:Kurdish population. Template is {{Under construction}}. But User:Turco85 insist on adding speed deletion tag. Thank you. Takabeg (talk) 13:43, 10 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Belen Echandia page deletion

Yesterday I spent a large amount of time researching and updating the Belen Echandia page. This morning I now see that it's been deleted for Unambiguous advertising or promotion and indefinitely protected for being Repeatedly Recreated. The talk page has also been deleted so I'm not sure what about my changes were unambiguous advertising. I am not an employee of the company nor are any of my relatives. I kept very little of the original page since I saw the original author might have had a conflict of interest. I would like to learn more about why this was deleted so that I can improve my contributions to Wikipedia. I'd also like to see if it's possible for the deletion & indefinite protection to be reconsidered. Thank you. AuroraHcky (talk) 14:06, 10 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I have had a quick look back at the deleted article, but unfortunately I don't have time now to do much more. On the basis of my quick glance i would say that the overall tone of the article was promotional, rather that there were specific details which were unacceptable. For example, a sentence like "Belen Echandia's handbags are entirely cut and sewn and finished by hand in Italy by an Italian atelier of bag makers in small batches using traditional leather craft" perhaps cannot be directly objected to, but when you have a succession of sentences like that it all adds up to an article which reads like an advertisement. I will look at it a bit more when I have time, and possibly may ask for a second opinion from another administrator. If I don't get back to you on this within a day or so please feel welcome to remind me. JamesBWatson (talk) 14:24, 10 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I almost forgot to do this in all of my excitement yesterday. Thank you for restoring the page! AuroraHcky (talk) 14:06, 11 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Hi James, I have been watching this too, because I AM directly associated with Belen Echandia and I am interested to follow the progress of this page. I realise that it is not my/our entry and therefore I have no basis on which to contest your decision, but I did just want to share some facts. The page was initially deleted 3 times but the person who initially uploaded it then improved the content to make it more factual. It was then selected as a KEEP by 3 administrators on the basis of notability and its content. The reason it was again selected for speedy deletion was cited by unixtastic as that Belen Echandia or someone closely related to Belen Echandia had created the page, not on the basis of its content. If you look back at the discussion on this page, you will see that this was the suggested reason for deletion. This is not true, neither of the two contributors have any business relationship with Belen Echandia. I just wanted to clear up those facts. Best findingtruths (talk) 14:37, 10 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

OK, thanks for that clarification. I will try to look at it tomorrow, and will consider whether to restore the article. JamesBWatson (talk) 14:40, 10 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for your reply. The admin who made the final decision that it was notable was http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Davewild. You can see the discussion under the heading Belen Echandia posted by unixtastic and my response.findingtruths 14:44, 10 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

(edit conflict)Actually, it was kept only yesterday at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Belen Echandia on the grounds that it was adequately notable and could be de-spammed by editing. I haven't compared versions, but maybe the thing to do is go back to that version, or despam further, and put a (hidden) comment in the head of the text, visible to anyone trying to edit, to discourage enthusiastic supporters from re-spamming it. JohnCD (talk) 14:51, 10 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks, JohnCD. No doubt that AfD was what findingtruths was referring to, but I hadn't seen it. Naturally I have now restored the article. JamesBWatson (talk) 14:54, 10 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry to be a bother James, the article still has a tag that says that someone closely connected with the company has made a major edit. This is not true. I own the company and we have intentionally not touched it for COI reasons, other than to make one small edit this morning to change the spelling of Belen Echandia and correct a grammatial mistake. I did however forget to tick the minor edit box so this may be why it is flagged. How can that tag be removed? Very best findingtruths —Preceding undated comment added 16:01, 10 November 2010 (UTC).[reply]

Hello, JBW. You have new messages at Susfele's talk page.
You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{Talkback}} or {{Tb}} template.

Seen. JamesBWatson (talk) 08:50, 11 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Could you take a look at this article and possibly restore it? If it contains only text from http://www.indium.com then we've received OTRS permission for this page (Ticket:2010111010011465 for my own reference). If you would be willing to take a look at Head-in-pillow also (even though you weren't the deleting admin) it's the same situation. VernoWhitney (talk) 18:55, 10 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

  • Liquid metal - restored, on the basis of your information.
  • Head-in-pillow - To be quite sure before I take any action, the article contains substantial copying from six different sources, from four different companies. All six of these sources have copyright notices indicating "all rights reserved" or some such restriction. Are you saying that Wikipedia has received authenticated copyright permission for all six of the sources? JamesBWatson (talk) 09:43, 11 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Sorry if I was unclear. I mentioned http://www.indium.com because we have permission for only that one website. I looked through all of their articles they mentioned and these two were the only ones where the deletion logs didn't specifically mention other websites which we couldn't use. Anyways, thanks for restoring the one usable article, I've tagged it appropriately. VernoWhitney (talk) 12:33, 11 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Greetings from the Contribution Team

Greetings! Please excuse this intrusion on your talk page, and allow me to invite you to participate on the newly-formed Wikipedia Contribution Team, or WP:CONTRIB for short! The goal of the team is to attract more and better contributions specifically to the English Wikipedia, as well as to help support the fundraising team in our financial and editing contribution goals. We have lots of stuff to work on, from minor and major page building, to wikiproject outreach, article improvement, donor contacting, and more -- in fact, part of our mission is to empower team members to make their own projects to support our mission. Some of our projects only take a few minutes to work on, while others can be large, multi-person tasks -- whatever your interest level, we're glad to have you. If this sounds of interest to you, please visit WP:CONTRIB and sign onto the team. Even if there does not appear to be anything that really speaks out as being work you'd like to do, I'd encourage you to join and follow the project anyway, as the type of work we'll be doing will certainly evolve and change over time. If you have any questions, please don't hesitate to contact me, or ask on the Contribution talk page. Regards, DanRosenthal Wikipedia Contribution Team 19:55, 10 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Rollback for Gibraltar Chronicle...

As an admin with rollback ability, can you clean up that article cause that IP had already vandalised it so much times. It would be a pain for me to undo all those. Much would be appreciated. --Yong (talk) 08:48, 11 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for pointing this out. I have restored what I hope is a good version. Actually in this case rollback is irrelevant, as it is applies only for undoing a string of edits all by the same user with no intervening edits by anyone else, which does not apply in this case. All I have done is find what I hope is a good version before the vandalism started, click on "edit", and then save: you could have done that. If there are any remaining problems I have missed and that you need help with please let me know. JamesBWatson (talk) 09:54, 11 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Lenora Claire

Can you explain why you deleted the Lenora Claire page? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.66.102.179 (talk) 08:56, 11 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Since you know that I deleted it, presumably you have tried to access Lenora Claire, and seen the block log entries, including my reason for deletion. There is also a link to the relevant deletion discussion. I will happily give any clarification that is needed, but I see no point in repeating information already available, so I suggest you specify what you need to know that isn't there. JamesBWatson (talk) 09:49, 11 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Why would you delete someone who has appeared in films (IMDB, etc can be verified), has appeared on everything from the LA Times, TMZ, NPR, the cover of the Miami New Times, LA Bizarro, as well as numerous other mainstream media sources (all verified), has appeared on nationwide ad campaigns including billboards in Times Square (all verified) as well as a dozen other notworthy accomplishments. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.65.40.125 (talk) 05:24, 12 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

As you will know if you have read it, the deletion discussion was quite long and involved. There is no point in my going through all of the arguments there, since you can read them yourself. As far as my deletion was concerned, the reason was, as you presumably know, "Recreation of a page that was deleted per a deletion discussion". When I reviewed the article after it had been nominated for deletion on those grounds it was not my job to re-assess the reasons discussed in that discussion, but only to assess whether the new version of the article had addressed the issues which led to its deletion after discussion. It didn't. That was why I deleted it. Incidentally IMDb (1) is not a reliable source as anyone can contribute to it, and (2) is not a proof of notability, as anyone who has taken part in any film in any capacity is likely to be listed there. JamesBWatson (talk) 07:58, 12 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Nicola Stanbridge

Hi James, Hope all is well. I'm curious to find out why my rather modest wiki entry was deleted from Wikipedia could it be that I was nominated? Best wishes, Nicola Stanbridge —Preceding unsigned comment added by 132.185.144.121 (talk) 12:16, 11 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Asuming you mean the article Nicola Stanbridge, it was proposed for deletion by Hut 8.5, who said that they could not find any significant coverage in third-party reliable sources, and that the subject failed to satisfy Wikipedia's guideline on notability of people. The proposal was not challenged and so, after a week, the article was deleted. It is perhaps also worth mentioning that the article gave no sources at all, despite having been tagged to ask for such sources for over a year. I may also mention that my own searches have also failed to produce any significant third party coverage. There are plenty of links to material by you, but little by other reliable sources about you. JamesBWatson (talk) 12:26, 11 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]


.. Not being terribly technically savvy I'm not sure how to get your reply to my message.

All the best, Nicola Stanbridge —Preceding unsigned comment added by 132.185.144.120 (talk) 12:28, 11 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

By the time you posted that message my answer was just above, where you could have seen it when you were posting. However, I will email you to make sure. JamesBWatson (talk) 12:32, 11 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for your speedy reply James, I see your posting, it's easier than I thought. May I ask who Hut 8.5 is? I don't know who put the entry on wiki in the first place. But I do know it was only taken from an old web entry from the Today Programme BBC Radio 4 Website from about 8 years ago when I joined the programme. The entry was deleted sometime ago from there and we don't have programme reporter profiles anymore, although I am indeed still on the programme. A colleague mentioned I'd been deleted a couple of weeks ago and thought it interesting. Best wishes, Nicola —Preceding unsigned comment added by 132.185.144.122 (talk) 12:34, 11 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

While you were posting that I was busy emailing you to tell you to look here. Oh well, never mind. I see that "Hut 8.5" is a Wikipedia administrator. I know quite a lot about some Wikipedia admins, but I know no more about this one than you do: presumably he/she and I work in different areas of Wikipedia administration and do not tend to come in contact with one another. If you want to know more then here are links to "Hut 8.5"'s user page, talk page, and contributions history. Incidentally, if the article about you was taken from an old "Today" web page then it was pretty certainly a copyright infringement, and should have been deleted for that reason. Are you still on "Today"? I used to be a regular listener, now only a sporadic one, but I will try to remember to listen out for you. JamesBWatson (talk) 12:55, 11 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The entry was indeed taken from the old Today website. I was asked to write something when I joined so the info was right but the bit about cycling and world leaders quickly made me cringe after I got into the flow of the programme. I do a mix of news and music pieces. Up next will be pieces about Juliette Greco, Damon Albarn. Anyway I don't mind being deleted from wiki, it was rather extraordinary I was there in the first place, all good things must come to an end. Might make for a good short detective story if I ever get the time to find out the source of my nomination! All the best, Nicola. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 132.185.144.123 (talk) 13:16, 11 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Bobwong123

Did you mean to set this vandalism-only block for only three hours? Kuru (talk) 20:21, 11 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Errm, no, errm, I'm not sure what I did there. Thanks for pointing it out. JamesBWatson (talk) 20:23, 11 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Just didn't know if you were entering a happy, fluffy phase.  :) Kuru (talk)

Thanks

Thanks for the quick block of ARYANLISTWRITER. I'd reverted him and left a note to Dougweller about it. MarmadukePercy (talk) 21:03, 11 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Brett Walton

Hi, could you give some guidance on why you think the Brett Walton article is written like an advertisement and what you'd recommend changing to make it less so? TadjHolmes (talk) 09:20, 12 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The article concentrates substantially on telling us how good Walton is. If you honestly can't see that then i can only guess that you are so closely involved with the subject that you cannot stand back and see how it would look to an outsider. JamesBWatson (talk) 11:09, 12 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, James:

Have a question for you: Is it possible to protect an article's talk page? Or page protection is only for articles? The reason why I'm asking is because a range of ips kept making and reverting the same edits to Sonny Bono, and the article was protected as content dispute.

However, now that they're supposed to discuss changes to the article at Talk:Sonny Bono, one of the ips Special:Contributions/75.47.151.134 only deletes any opinion that doesn't agree with her/his viewpoint and is being disruptive eliminating entire sections of the talk page that refer to whether those edits should be included or not.

Ip was blocked by accident, since it didn't have enough warnings. However, it was on its way to accumulate enough of them (see deletion here, warning here, disruptive editing here, etc. If it comes back as another ip address, is page protection for a talk page the correct procedure? Or reporting and blocking the disruptive ips the way to go? -- John KB (talk) 11:27, 12 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Related thread here. I was actually in two minds whether or not to undo my accidental block having been through their contribs - I eventually decided that I was seeing a newbie making mistakes and not a disruptive editor who should know better. However, see WP:ROPE... EyeSerenetalk 11:35, 12 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Yeah, those kind of ips are tricky, because they pretend to be protecting wikipedia and even cite wp policies and guidelines. Noticed at first how he/she was reporting usernames to the vandalism noticeboard, and was thinking, oh how nice. That ip is probably a username that may have been blocked in the past, too much knowledge and interest in politicians. --John KB (talk) 11:40, 12 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Having looked at the edit history of the talk page, the edit histories of some of the IPs, etc etc, I have decided that the best thing is to semi-protect the article's talk page, which I have done for 10 days. We will have to see what happens after that. JamesBWatson (talk) 11:42, 12 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Fair enough :) I'd probably have blocked rather than protected the talk page, but I guess it's a judgement based on how many IPs are being used (I haven't actually checked). I'm certainly no fan of whack-a-mole. EyeSerenetalk 11:47, 12 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I was not entirely sure which way to go, but the involvement of several IPs inclined me to the protection option, and so did the presence of quite a number of constructive edits by at least one of the IPs. Of course that could be gaming the system ("If I make a lot of good edits too then they won't block me"), but in the absence of strong reasons to suppose so I had to assume good faith. JamesBWatson (talk) 11:53, 12 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Hopefully this helps the article. One of the ips and a single purpose account made the initial edits in October, and it escalated from there. Thanks, James. --John KB (talk) 11:51, 12 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

re Unblock request fromTropicallanterns

Thank you for checking with me. No objections. -- Cirt (talk) 13:38, 12 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Just FYI

Concur. I was about to do it myself. --Moonriddengirl (talk) 14:24, 12 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

prynce

put the page back up thanks.Ci prynce —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.111.72.98 (talk) 19:18, 12 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I see that the author of that comment has been blocked. However, out of interest I checked and found that Prynce has three times been created, all three times nonsense, and all three times speedy-deleted, but never by me, and I don't see where I come in at all. JamesBWatson (talk) 17:18, 13 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Dominic Sewell

In what way was copyright infringed? Surrey Brass don't own information on this composer. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.135.28.37 (talk) 10:14, 13 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

They don't own the information, but they do own copyright in the particular wording of the information which they use. The article was a verbatim copy of that wording. JamesBWatson (talk) 17:13, 13 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

POLQA

> > Sorry to bump this, but I think it is lost in your archive: < < Hi: I noticed you deleted the "POLQA" incubator page. That page was in the incubator awaiting review for reinstatement following updating; new external references had been added that demonstrated the original deletion complaint was in error. Could you please reinstate this page at least to the incubator so it can be reviewed, or at least give me some way to retrieve the text so that a new article can be started? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 93.205.127.124 (talk) 22:27, 19 September 2010 (UTC)

Can you be more precise as to exactly what page you are referring to? There has never been a Wikipedia:Article incubator/POLQA, and I don't know what else you may mean. JamesBWatson (talk) 16:07, 20 September 2010 (UTC)

Hi Again: If you review the information here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/POLQA, you will see this just prior to your deletion:-

00:50, 25 June 2010 MuZemike (talk | contribs) moved POLQA to Wikipedia:Article Incubator/POLQA [without redirect] ‎ (Moving to the WP:INCUBATOR after what may possibly be sources found post-AFD.)

The page was only in question because it seemed to lack external references - otherwise I believe it was a good neutral page, and I'd like to get it back now that the subject matter has received considerable publicity. The page was edited on the incubator page with new references and (I thought) submitted for review - but somehow it got back into mainline circulation and then subsequently deleted. Is there any way to get that text back without re/writing the entire article? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 93.205.105.19 (talk) 11:47, 13 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

First of all, sorry about my mistaken statement that there had never been a Wikipedia:Article incubator/POLQA. I looked for that and there was no log record of its ever having existed, but of course I had to look for POLQA, which is where it had been moved to, and therefore where the log record was to be found. Having said that, I have looked back at the article as it existed at the end of the AfD and also as it existed when re-created. There had been a number of edits, perhaps most notably the addition of four external links, evidently the "external references" that you refer to. These four are a page on POLQA's own site, two pages on marketing sites, and a dead link. These do nothing at all to indicate notability, and certainly do not "[demonstrate] the original deletion complaint was in error". The article incubator is meant for short term keeping of pages while they are corrected, not a way of retaining an article long-term after it has been decided it should be deleted, and when an AfD discussion has resulted in a consensus to delete, a matter of several months have passed, and attempts to address the issues which led to that decision have been unsuccessful, I think it is usually not justifiable to re-create yet again the article which it has been decided should be deleted, whether in userspace, the "article incubator", or anywhere else. However, I am willing to email you a copy of the article if you like. If you have a Wikipedia account then you can enable email in your account preferences and I can email it to you. (Of course, you can just post me your email address here if you like, but I wouldn't encourage anyone to post their email address on a publicly visible Wikipedia page.) JamesBWatson (talk) 17:08, 13 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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