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::* [2] [STOP] ''Disallowing English (or other foreign) on Wikipedia'',--<font size="2" face="Kokonor" color="green">Vigyani</font><sub>[[User talk:Vigyani|''talk'']]</sub><sup>[[Special:Contributions/Vigyani|ਯੋਗਦਾਨ]]</sup> 02:52, 7 October 2014 (UTC) |
::* [2] [STOP] ''Disallowing English (or other foreign) on Wikipedia'',--<font size="2" face="Kokonor" color="green">Vigyani</font><sub>[[User talk:Vigyani|''talk'']]</sub><sup>[[Special:Contributions/Vigyani|ਯੋਗਦਾਨ]]</sup> 02:52, 7 October 2014 (UTC) |
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::* Answer 1) It means decisions should be taken after discussing on-wiki and reaching a consensus. It means Wikimedia India chapter can not force a consensus on WikiProject India. Similarly we can not force Tamil or Telugu Wikipedia to do anything. It should be discussed first. 2) Some local language Wikipedias don't allow English/Roman letters in their Wiki. If you go to their Wiki, and type "abcd" or any thing else in English, they will not allow you to save the edit (there is an automated process now, the you can not save edit with a blackisted URL here) [[User:Shyamal]] raised this issue.<br/> BTW, will you attend if I nominate your name in next year's conference or whenever I'll get chance (they will bear expenses)? --<span style="background:orange;border:orange ridge">[[User:Titodutta|Tito]]</span><span style="color:blue;background:white;otit;border-bottom-style:ridge;">☸</span><span style="background:#57C738;border:green ridge">[[User talk:Titodutta|Dutta]]</span> 03:15, 7 October 2014 (UTC) |
::* Answer 1) It means decisions should be taken after discussing on-wiki and reaching a consensus. It means Wikimedia India chapter can not force a consensus on WikiProject India. Similarly we can not force Tamil or Telugu Wikipedia to do anything. It should be discussed first. 2) Some local language Wikipedias don't allow English/Roman letters in their Wiki. If you go to their Wiki, and type "abcd" or any thing else in English, they will not allow you to save the edit (there is an automated process now, the you can not save edit with a blackisted URL here) [[User:Shyamal]] raised this issue.<br/> BTW, will you attend if I nominate your name in next year's conference or whenever I'll get chance (they will bear expenses)? --<span style="background:orange;border:orange ridge">[[User:Titodutta|Tito]]</span><span style="color:blue;background:white;otit;border-bottom-style:ridge;">☸</span><span style="background:#57C738;border:green ridge">[[User talk:Titodutta|Dutta]]</span> 03:15, 7 October 2014 (UTC) |
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:::* Thanks for the clarifications. So these STOPs are not for normal users. Presently, I live outside India. I will try to attend, if I am in India at the time of the conference. I missed the chance in 2011, that time I was living very close to the conference venue. I was not very active that time :(. --<font size="2" face="Kokonor" color="green">Vigyani</font><sub>[[User talk:Vigyani|''talk'']]</sub><sup>[[Special:Contributions/Vigyani|ਯੋਗਦਾਨ]]</sup> 03:49, 7 October 2014 (UTC) |
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Need to update Maharashtra and India Maps
Due to creation of Palghar district on 1 August, the following maps need updation:
Commons:Category:Locator maps of divisions of Maharashtra and Commons:Category:Locator maps of Maharashtra.
Reference for new map: [1][2]--Redtigerxyz Talk 13:48, 14 September 2014 (UTC)
- Posted a request on Commons' Graphic Lab/Map workshop. §§Dharmadhyaksha§§ {T/C} 17:00, 14 September 2014 (UTC)
- I know an expert who can do this. Jim Carter (from public cyber) 12:13, 25 September 2014 (UTC)
Dear India experts: While checking out the draft above I found the second page in mainspace. It seems to have a lot of unsourced content about living people. There is also https://m.facebook.com/Barabasti?v=info which has some of the same information, but which may have been created later, since this is an older article. Perhaps someone here who is more familiar with Indian villages could do something with the mainspace article. —Anne Delong (talk) 20:58, 16 September 2014 (UTC)
- @Anne Delong: Barabasti and draft (Afc) Basi Banger appears to be similar but both article/draft lacks reliable references which maybe conflicting. — CutestPenguinHangout 18:49, 25 September 2014 (UTC)
India
Hey can anyone tell me, why full part of Kashmir is not shown in the Indian maps, like https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:India_West_Bengal_locator_map.svg, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:India_Sikkim_locator_map.svg . Whereas parts of Kashmir is included in Pakistan in https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Punjab_in_Pakistan_(claims_hatched).svg? RRD13 (talk) 08:47, 18 September 2014 (UTC)
- @Royroydeb: I am curious to know that why you are interested in knowing that? — CutestPenguinHangout 18:45, 25 September 2014 (UTC)
- Roy, the depiction of the Kashmir boundary in the India locator maps is well explained in the Legend sections of those pages. I also don't see the Punjab, Pakistan locator map including part of Kashmir in Pakistan (note the hatched vs solid lines) although it could do a better job differentiating between international, state and disputed boundaries and an additional explanatory legend would help.
- Of greater concern to this wikiproject is the fact that the India locator maps do not show the Andhra Pradesh-Telangana state boundary. Is someone working on that yet, or can User:Planemad help? Abecedare (talk) 20:02, 25 September 2014 (UTC)
Aryan
Could someone please respond to this at Talk:Aryan#Outdated usage:
- "And their writing should be considered at (nearly) the same level as the one who wrote Mein Kampf"
That's not the kind of arguments we use here at Wikipedia, is it? Joshua Jonathan -Let's talk! 07:20, 23 September 2014 (UTC)
- User:Rjensen removed the comment. Thanks! Joshua Jonathan -Let's talk! 09:02, 23 September 2014 (UTC)
Translation
Hello Indian experts, I have created an article about a film named Raj Hath. The spelling of the film in hindi is "राजहठ" (see the poster in the article). In English Raj Hath means "King's hand" but seeing the spelling in hindi I have doubts that the real meaning is something else. Can someone tell me what is the real translation? Jim Carter (from public cyber) 20:49, 26 September 2014 (UTC)
- The literal translation would be "King's (or Kings', or Royal) obstinacy (or stubbornness)". Abecedare (talk) 21:19, 26 September 2014 (UTC)
Translation request
Greetings, I need this sentence translated for a warning template:
- Please do not contribute text in Hindi to the English Wikipedia. Your contributions are more than welcome at the Hindi Wikipedia
It will be included at Template:Not English.- Gilliam (talk) 06:35, 2 October 2014 (UTC)
- @Gilliam: You can use
- English Wikipeida per Hindi me lekh na likhen. App ke Hindi lekh Hindi Wikipedia per Sarhana kiye janege.
or
- अंग्रेजी विकिपीडिया पर हिंदी में योगदान न करें, आप के हिंदी लेख हिंदी विकिपीडिया पर सराहना किया जायेगा।.
Thank you
— CutestPenguinHangout 06:56, 2 October 2014 (UTC)
- (edit conflict) A possible translation: कृपया अंग्रेजी विकिपीडिया पर हिन्दी पाठ ना जोड़े। आपका योगदान हिन्दी विकिपीडिया पर अधिक सराहनीये हैं। Someone with better Hindi may kindly check it. --Vigyanitalkਯੋਗਦਾਨ 06:58, 2 October 2014 (UTC)
- suggesting minor improvements : कृपया, अंग्रेजी विकिपीडिया पर हिन्दी पाठ ना जोड़े। आपका योगदान हिन्दी विकिपीडिया पर अधिक सराहनीय होगा। Someone with better Hindi may kindly check it. --Mahitgar (talk) 08:15, 2 October 2014 (UTC)--
- Cutest Penguin It is commonly पर सराहा जायेगा instead of पर सराहना किया जायेगा. Vigyani it should be है instead of हैं (the dot in the top should not be there in this particular use). And it should be जोड़ें instead of जोड़े in all the three suggestions (the dot in the top should be there in this particular use). I would suggest the last one with this correction. Hindi is my mother tongue and I read a lot in Hindi and write online often in Hindi (not under AmritasyaPutra). --AmritasyaPutraT 10:04, 2 October 2014 (UTC)
- suggesting minor improvements : कृपया, अंग्रेजी विकिपीडिया पर हिन्दी पाठ ना जोड़े। आपका योगदान हिन्दी विकिपीडिया पर अधिक सराहनीय होगा। Someone with better Hindi may kindly check it. --Mahitgar (talk) 08:15, 2 October 2014 (UTC)--
- @AmritasyaPutra: I used Google translator since I don't have Hindi fonts in OS, and there is no difference. My point of view was to encourage the user to move on Hindi Wikipedia. If you have better knowledge you can suggest here. — CutestPenguinHangout 10:11, 2 October 2014 (UTC)
- Thank you all for the translations. Please review the new template at Template:Contrib-hi1. - Gilliam (talk) 18:35, 2 October 2014 (UTC)
Done @Gilliam: It seems fine to me. — CutestPenguinHangout 05:38, 3 October 2014 (UTC)
This doesn't actually seem to be an article on the caste since these changes.[3] It's more or less a cutdown version of Madala Panji which seems wrong. There are comments on my talk page about this and arguments at List of Shudra Hindu saints. Dougweller (talk) 18:11, 2 October 2014 (UTC)
- Ok, I will take it up on the talk page. I do agree with this editor that karans are probably not shudras. All the karans I know wear the jandhyam thread, which is not done by the shudra castes. Kautilya3 (talk) 19:03, 2 October 2014 (UTC)
- Karans , those live in Odisha can never be approved of being Shudras. Looking to the sources that describe them as shudras , those are written by Bengali people , who are very much alien to Odia culture. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bitthalns (talk • contribs) 14:20, 4 October 2014 (UTC)
- @Bitthalns: Please find some reliable sources that can establish the issue one way or another, and we can edit the page accordingly. Kautilya3 (talk) 14:48, 4 October 2014 (UTC)
- @Kautilya3:A few recent sources although I'm not sure they will help with this specific issue. However this article can benefit from any well sourced material. [4] [5] [6] Dougweller (talk) 15:06, 4 October 2014 (UTC)
- @Bitthalns: Please find some reliable sources that can establish the issue one way or another, and we can edit the page accordingly. Kautilya3 (talk) 14:48, 4 October 2014 (UTC)
- Karans , those live in Odisha can never be approved of being Shudras. Looking to the sources that describe them as shudras , those are written by Bengali people , who are very much alien to Odia culture. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bitthalns (talk • contribs) 14:20, 4 October 2014 (UTC)
Political map of India in India
[7] This map in India needs fixing in a hurry. Pondicherry (G) points to multiple places which is obviously not the case. If someone with the technical skills could correct this that would count as their good deed of the day. Thanks. --regentspark (comment) 21:34, 2 October 2014 (UTC)
- I think it is indeed the case. See Puducherry. Kautilya3 (talk) 22:44, 2 October 2014 (UTC)
- The map appears accurate to me; Pondicherry is not a contiguous region. Vanamonde93 (talk) 22:55, 2 October 2014 (UTC)
- You are right assuming Wikipedia is right :) I had no idea that Pondicherry/Puducherry was so disjointed. --regentspark (comment) 23:45, 2 October 2014 (UTC)
- Does anyone know. why those districts are not made part of the respective states ? --Vigyanitalkਯੋਗਦਾਨ 00:18, 3 October 2014 (UTC)
- I am not an expert on the history of the states, but I believe it has something to do with the fact that all of Puducherry/Pondicherry (ie the disjointed bits) were a French colony, and so the accession to India worked differently from other states. Daman & Diu, which were Portuguese colonies (I think) remained a Union-territory, and were not integrated with their neighboring states either. Vanamonde93 (talk) 00:52, 3 October 2014 (UTC)
- The territory of Puducherry was merged with the Indian Union in November 1954 as part of the defacto agreement signed between Government of India and Government of France, later the dejure transfer of Puducherry happened in August 1962. I believe it was a political choice, there was one more colony Chandannagar freed in the same manner but it was merged with the state of West Bengal. Puducherry (the specific one falling in Tamil Nadu) has an interesting history -- Matrimandir is walkable distance (it was a long walk) from Puducherry Railway station (but falls under Tamil Nadu state). --AmritasyaPutraT 01:18, 3 October 2014 (UTC)
- I read about Chandannagar. Thats why I was curios to know. Chandigarh is UT because of dispute between Haryana and Punjab. In case of parts of Puducherry, there shouldn't be any territorial dispute, as they are well inside the state areas. --Vigyanitalkਯੋਗਦਾਨ 01:43, 3 October 2014 (UTC)
- Shared history (or the lack of it) should certainly be a consideration in organizing provinces. For example, the forcible merger of Telengana into Andhra Pradesh was widely regarded as a mistake, which has now been reversed. Kautilya3 (talk) 09:12, 3 October 2014 (UTC)
- I read about Chandannagar. Thats why I was curios to know. Chandigarh is UT because of dispute between Haryana and Punjab. In case of parts of Puducherry, there shouldn't be any territorial dispute, as they are well inside the state areas. --Vigyanitalkਯੋਗਦਾਨ 01:43, 3 October 2014 (UTC)
- The territory of Puducherry was merged with the Indian Union in November 1954 as part of the defacto agreement signed between Government of India and Government of France, later the dejure transfer of Puducherry happened in August 1962. I believe it was a political choice, there was one more colony Chandannagar freed in the same manner but it was merged with the state of West Bengal. Puducherry (the specific one falling in Tamil Nadu) has an interesting history -- Matrimandir is walkable distance (it was a long walk) from Puducherry Railway station (but falls under Tamil Nadu state). --AmritasyaPutraT 01:18, 3 October 2014 (UTC)
- I am not an expert on the history of the states, but I believe it has something to do with the fact that all of Puducherry/Pondicherry (ie the disjointed bits) were a French colony, and so the accession to India worked differently from other states. Daman & Diu, which were Portuguese colonies (I think) remained a Union-territory, and were not integrated with their neighboring states either. Vanamonde93 (talk) 00:52, 3 October 2014 (UTC)
- Does anyone know. why those districts are not made part of the respective states ? --Vigyanitalkਯੋਗਦਾਨ 00:18, 3 October 2014 (UTC)
- You are right assuming Wikipedia is right :) I had no idea that Pondicherry/Puducherry was so disjointed. --regentspark (comment) 23:45, 2 October 2014 (UTC)
- The map appears accurate to me; Pondicherry is not a contiguous region. Vanamonde93 (talk) 22:55, 2 October 2014 (UTC)
FYI, the usage of "Indo-Brazilian" is up for discussion, see Talk:Anglo-Nubian. You may be interested as it derives from something from India. -- 65.94.171.225 (talk) 05:34, 3 October 2014 (UTC)
Dholera Page Importance
Dholera in Ahmedabad is rapidly moving towards formation of a mega city. It is a Special investment region.I would like to request people to expand this article and change the importance level of the page. Sukrut Phansalkar (talk) 09:15, 3 October 2014 (UTC)
- You can be bold and do it yourself with Reliable sources. Our WikiProject importance level is usually low for such geographical areas. Good day, Ugog Nizdast (talk) 09:23, 3 October 2014 (UTC)
Some suggestions for article on chess
I have added few suggestions for article on chess. Kindly check the same and give your views. Dhirand (talk) 11:41, 3 October 2014 (UTC)Dhiraj
- Where have you added them? Kingsindian ♝♚ 14:07, 3 October 2014 (UTC)
Ministry Of Shipping
Please review the Ministry of Shipping (India) article and do necessary changes in the additions i have made.Also check if the article is eligible foe C or B class Sukrut Phansalkar (talk) 17:39, 3 October 2014 (UTC)
Done Assessed as C, will give further comments on the article talk page. Good day, Ugog Nizdast (talk) 09:28, 4 October 2014 (UTC)
- @Sukrut Phansalkar: That is an amazing amount of work in 3 days. Great job! Kautilya3 (talk) 10:58, 4 October 2014 (UTC)
- @Ugog Nizdast: and @Kautilya3: Thank You!! Sukrut Phansalkar (talk) 11:14, 4 October 2014 (UTC)
- @Sukrut Phansalkar:, you should try and nominate it for WP:DYK; 5x is easily met. §§Dharmadhyaksha§§ {T/C} 09:05, 6 October 2014 (UTC)
- @Dharmadhyaksha:,I am new i dont know how to nominate...please guide me else you yourself can do it Sukrut Phansalkar (talk) 10:08, 6 October 2014 (UTC)
- I have tried fixing the nomination you created at Template:Did you know nominations/Ministry of Shipping (India). You can propose a different hook also if you wish. Keep a watch on it and someone will come and review it. Meanwhile, you have a large and an urgent task to do. Much of the information is simply taken from the various sources you used. See Wikipedia:Close paraphrasing and Wikipedia:Copyright violations and change the prose as soon as possible. §§Dharmadhyaksha§§ {T/C} 11:00, 6 October 2014 (UTC)
जहाज़रानी मंत्रालय, भारत सरकार
I have written the hindi version of the article Ministry of Shipping (India).जहाज़रानी मंत्रालय, भारत सरकार Please check the grammatical errors and include this article under wikiproject india like the English article.
- For this you can place note at hi:विकिपीडिया:चौपाल --Vigyanitalkਯੋਗਦਾਨ 12:05, 4 October 2014 (UTC)
I invite any of you for discussion on page move proposal. Join in there. --George Ho (talk) 17:20, 4 October 2014 (UTC)
Ministry of Road Transport and Highways
I have edited the article Ministry of Road Transport and Highways.Please review the article and give a C or B class.Also please correct any mistakes I have made. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sukrut Phansalkar (talk • contribs) 10:27, 5 October 2014 (UTC)
U-DISE and articles about secondary schools
U-DISE (Unified District Information System for Education) is a database of information about schools in India. See http://www.dise.in/udise.html and U-DISE
I wonder if someone could create a bot to create Wikipedia articles on all the secondary schools in the U-DISE database, in the same way that articles on all cities in the United States were created from census data by a bot. Eastmain (talk • contribs) 17:45, 5 October 2014 (UTC)
- Articles on all secondary schools? There could be a million of them, if not more! Kautilya3 (talk) 20:11, 5 October 2014 (UTC)
- Yes. That's what we do for U.S.-based secondary schools. We write articles on them. WhisperToMe (talk) 20:17, 5 October 2014 (UTC)
Photo requests in Delhi and Mumbai
Dear Wikiproject users,
I have article requests in Delhi and Mumbai related to airline corporate headquarters:
DELHI AREA:
- Air India head office - Airlines House, 113, Gurudwara Rakabganj Road, New Delhi 110 001
- IndiGo head office - Level 1, Tower C, Global Business Park, Mehrauli-Gurgaon Road, Gurgaon – 122 002, Haryana, India.
MUMBAI AREA:
- Jet Airways head office - Siroya Centre, Sahar Airport Road, Andheri (East), Mumbai, Maharashtra 400099
WhisperToMe (talk) 20:16, 5 October 2014 (UTC)
Kudos to Sriram Vikram for "Editor of the week" recognition
Please congratulate Sriram Vikram for being recognized for the "Editor of the Week" (week ending Oct 5, 2014) for his contributions to Film articles. He helped push Gemini (2002 Tamil film) to Featured Article status. Kudos Sriram. Arunram (talk)
- Congratulations Sriram! --AmritasyaPutraT 05:43, 6 October 2014 (UTC)
- Congratulations @Sriram Vikram:
. — CutestPenguinHangout 08:48, 6 October 2014 (UTC)
Ministry of Road Transport and Highways
Please someone.... review this article Ministry of Road Transport and Highways and correct the mistakes i have made in editing Sukrut Phansalkar (talk) 10:11, 6 October 2014 (UTC)
[IMPORTANT] Report from ICC 2014
Here is an unofficial draft of tyhe roadmap planned at ICC 2014: User:Titodutta/Condensed proposed roadmap for Wikimedia work in India --Tito☸Dutta 19:52, 6 October 2014 (UTC)
- Can we ask for any clarifications here or at some other venues ? --Vigyanitalkਯੋਗਦਾਨ 02:34, 7 October 2014 (UTC)
- They may or will make some pages sooner or later at Meta. I may try to answer if you have questions. --Tito☸Dutta 02:44, 7 October 2014 (UTC)
- [1] I couldn't understand what [STOP] Intervening in communities without community approval exactly means. what kind of intervention and who should not intervene ? --Vigyanitalkਯੋਗਦਾਨ 02:50, 7 October 2014 (UTC)
- [2] [STOP] Disallowing English (or other foreign) on Wikipedia,--Vigyanitalkਯੋਗਦਾਨ 02:52, 7 October 2014 (UTC)
- Answer 1) It means decisions should be taken after discussing on-wiki and reaching a consensus. It means Wikimedia India chapter can not force a consensus on WikiProject India. Similarly we can not force Tamil or Telugu Wikipedia to do anything. It should be discussed first. 2) Some local language Wikipedias don't allow English/Roman letters in their Wiki. If you go to their Wiki, and type "abcd" or any thing else in English, they will not allow you to save the edit (there is an automated process now, the you can not save edit with a blackisted URL here) User:Shyamal raised this issue.
BTW, will you attend if I nominate your name in next year's conference or whenever I'll get chance (they will bear expenses)? --Tito☸Dutta 03:15, 7 October 2014 (UTC)
- Thanks for the clarifications. So these STOPs are not for normal users. Presently, I live outside India. I will try to attend, if I am in India at the time of the conference. I missed the chance in 2011, that time I was living very close to the conference venue. I was not very active that time :(. --Vigyanitalkਯੋਗਦਾਨ 03:49, 7 October 2014 (UTC)