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January 16

Potternewton

References 3 and 4 have the publishers in the wrong place. Please fix - I only have an inadequate device now. Thanks so much - I try to get it all perfect. Please leave in quotes 175.33.45.21 (talk) 01:59, 16 January 2019 (UTC)

The references are OK. –Ammarpad (talk) 05:00, 16 January 2019 (UTC)

Potternewton

Ref number 4 is definitely not correctly done. I have tried a couple of times but failed. There is no need for the bit about "line feed character in - quote..." at the end of the actual quote from the citation. Please leave in real quote. Thanks 175.33.45.21 (talk) 07:36, 16 January 2019 (UTC)

Fixed. But you're the one who introduced that error after I answered your question above when there was no error. –Ammarpad (talk) 07:47, 16 January 2019 (UTC)

Submitting articles

I have created two articles in the past which were accepted for use on Wikipedia, but it has been a while, and I am rusty. I have written a third article, but I am not exactly sure how to submit it. Please advise. EDGRC — Preceding unsigned comment added by EDGRC (talk • contribs) 06:26, 16 January 2019 (UTC)

@EDGRC: If you think it is ready for article space, you can move it there. If you would like to submit it for review, you can add {{subst:submit}} to the top. —teb728 t c 07:13, 16 January 2019 (UTC)

Create Father's Blessing and Mother's Blessing wiki page please

Create Father's Blessing and Mother's Blessing wiki page please — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2604:6000:130A:C670:8D2E:ADB3:CF8:317E (talk) 07:45, 16 January 2019 (UTC)

What are those? Do you have WP:RELIABLE SOURCES? Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 07:54, 16 January 2019 (UTC)l

Chapeltown, West Yorkshire

This page is the suburb in Leeds. Ref number 15 has the page numbers done incorrectly. Please fix up if you have time - my device is hopeless, . Thanks175.33.45.21 (talk) 08:04, 16 January 2019 (UTC)

The page to which you intended to refer is Chapeltown, Leeds; Chapeltown is a disambiguation page. I've removed the reference so that you can put it in correctly if you don't want to change what you inserted. A further reminder that if you want to undo an edit the button is "Undo". --David Biddulph (talk) 08:12, 16 January 2019 (UTC)

Roberta Compton Mackenzie Campbell

Had a message reply stating there is no published article concerning the above person. In fact there is she also comes under the name Roberta king. The above name is her family and professional name. The info are legal documents not ordinary letters and acting proof of history of this famous family. So how are we suppose to add people into wiki when people havent researched deeply. This family have been mentioned on many autobiography s and biography s. Cynhalliard (talk) 09:25, 16 January 2019 (UTC)

(Cynhalliard: I've moved this question here from the Help Desk's talk page, which is intended for discussion of the operation of the Help Desk.) Maproom (talk) 09:36, 16 January 2019 (UTC)

The draft in your sandbox appears to be a hoax, or a work of fiction. It has no references. When you say "This family have been mentioned on many autobiography s and biography s", you provide no evidence, and don't even specify what family you mean. Maproom (talk) 09:45, 16 January 2019 (UTC)

The piece is not a hoax or fiction, but I'm sure that someone who says she's been an assistant editor on a national newspaper will be able to rephrase it more clearly. The contributor will, however, need to find good sources before proceeding further. Unpublished legal documents are not admissible as sources in Wikipedia. Please see this page for more about types of sources that can be accepted: Bhunacat10 (talk), 11:55, 16 January 2019 (UTC)

How to insert images on Wikipedia.

. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ujala Mall (talk • contribs) 10:04, 16 January 2019 (UTC)

Ujala Mall Please refer to our page on Uploading images and pay particular attention to the copyright requirements: Bhunacat10 (talk), 11:55, 16 January 2019 (UTC)

Watch User contributions

Is there a way to view new contribs from all users on my watchlist in one place? I am following up on a bunch of users who are vandalizing or have a COI. Tracking them in one place would be really helpful Daiyusha (talk) 12:41, 16 January 2019 (UTC)

No. There's no such feature. You can keep their contribution list in a separate tab and keep refreshing it at intervals. –Ammarpad (talk) 19:26, 16 January 2019 (UTC)

Notability/NPOV

Hi! I've only recently started editing, and I'm looking to improve various articles around Scotland and Edinburgh. I've seen various articles such as Turcan Connell where some of the tone seems overly promotional, and the article hasn't seen much attention in the last few months. In cases like this, would it be better to try and be bold and attempt to rewrite the article to be less promotional, or simply list the article for deletion? Sorry if this is an obvious question! Thanks --IrnBruFan7 (talk) 12:51, 16 January 2019 (UTC)

IrnBruFan7, thanks. I've speedy deleted this as obvious spam and blocked editor Turcan Connell. In general, it depends how much needs doing to fix the problems. If in doubt about notability, send to WP:AFD, if it's obvious spam, tag for a speedy deletion Jimfbleak - talk to me? 13:28, 16 January 2019 (UTC)

Unless the whole piece is blatantly promotional, "fix it yourself" is normally the preferred course. However, sometimes an editor who spots such problems may be without the time, access to sources, or topic understanding to rewrite the promotional parts neutrally to reflect what the sources actually support. In this case an alternative is to place appropriate cleanup tags at the top of the article or section, for someone else to hopefully pick up the task. Please note that nomination for deletion may not succeed if the topic is inherently notable – see WP:BEFORE: Bhunacat10 (talk), 13:45, 16 January 2019 (UTC)

Thanks guys! --IrnBruFan7 (talk) 13:57, 16 January 2019 (UTC)

Biographies of living or recently dead people

Thank you for taking time to read this.

I have 2 questions:

1. evidence requirements for biographies

2. the use of biographies by people who wish to add contentious material that is not directly associated with the subject of the biography.

1. We do not live our lives in refereed journals. There may be all kinds of evidence for a person's life in addition to media reports and journal articles. For example - government records, court records, medical records, educational records, and video or photographic evidence. I'm finding that facts for which there is ample evidence, such as weight changes (relevant if mistreatment is an issue) are having 'It is alleged' added, or being erased altogether because the data is in medical records or court transcripts or books. I'd like to discuss this issue, as it must be quite common.

2. A biography of someone with a disability who died 8 years ago, which was on Wikipedia prior to her death, is now regularly having negative comments added, referenced by articles which have no relation to her. They are being posted by people involved in a current controversy who presumably see this as a way of bringing their views to wider attention. I have heard that this is also started happening to people with other disabilities who are still living as well. Removing the negative material doesn't help, as it is just replaced a day or two later.

Any helpful suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

Thank you for your time. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Amdc538 (talk • contribs) 16:49, 16 January 2019 (UTC)

Wikipedia depends on reliable published sources. I suspect that the motivation of those you disagree with is to make the article (Anne McDonald, I assume) comply with Wikipedia's policies, rather than to pursue their own agendas. Maproom (talk) 22:30, 16 January 2019 (UTC)

Thank you for your reply, but it doesn't address the substantive issue I raised - I understand that Wikipedia relies on 'published' sources, but where does leave printed items that would usually be accepted as evidence such as court transcripts and medical records that haven't been published? How can one cite this evidence? In regard to adding references to published articles to a biography, your point would be valid if the articles added referred to the subject of the biography. When they don't, it is hard to see how the additions can make the article agree with Wikipedia's policies. 01:48, 18 January 2019 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Amdc538 (talk • contribs)

It is the publication rather than the printing that is the issue. If information is held in a closed archive it is inaccessible to anyone wishing to verify facts cited from it. If the information is published (even behind a paywall) then other editors can check and review points raised. Ideally all sources should be secondary sources which have assessed the importance of the primary sources and come to a balanced (often peer-reviewed) judgement. Considering your point (1) above. Medical records are usually closed and can only be viewed by the subject and medical staff. In this case they are inadmissible since no-one can check them. If the records are published in any form then they are primary sources and can be mentioned, though a secondary source is to be preferred. Court records may be closed or open. If the former then they are inaccessible, if the latter they have been published. Ask yourself if a random Wikipedia editor (take me as an example) can obtain access to the records even if it involved travelling or paying? If no then the records are useless for Wikipedia. Books (except in fringe cases) are obviously published.

Please remember to sign your posts (add ~~~~ to the end of messages) and add an edit summary. I have slightly modified your formatting in the original post to avoid breaking out into code blocks; I hope that is acceptable. Martin of Sheffield (talk) 09:04, 18 January 2019 (UTC)

Deleted page

Hi, The page for David Simchi-Levi was deleted by an inactive editor. https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=David_Simchi-Levi&action=edit&redlink=1

There is no conflict with having a wikipedia page for an MIT professor - look at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yossi_Sheffi

Can you help? thanks, Edith — Preceding unsigned comment added by Edithsl (talk • contribs) 17:19, 16 January 2019 (UTC)

Hello, Ediths1. There is no problem having a Wikipedia article about (I prefer "about" to "for", because "for" runs the risk of people assuming that the subject has some association with the article other than it being about them) an MIT professor, provided that professor meets Wikipedia's criteria for notability: some do, some don't. The article about David Simchi-Levi was deleted with the explanation "G12: Blatant copyright infringement: http://esd.mit.edu/Faculty_Pages/simchi-levi/simchi-levi.htm)". Wikipedia articles must not infringe existing copyrights; and in any case, the content of a person's faculty or employer's website is rarely appropriate for a Wikipedia article, because it is unlikely to take a neutral point of view. Wikipedia is basically uninterested in what a subject says about themselves, or what their employers or associates say about them: it is only interested in what people unconnected with the subject have chosen to publish about them. So the copyright violation will not be restored; but somebody (preferably somebody not associated with Simchi-Levi) could look for independent reliable sources about him, and use them to write a new article. See WP:BLP. --ColinFine (talk) 17:55, 16 January 2019 (UTC)

While looking, I also found the article David Levy (inventor), which has a link to a faculty page about Simchi-Levi: I assume this is a mistake, and will take it out of that article. --ColinFine (talk) 17:52, 16 January 2019 (UTC)

Help:Cite errors/Cite error included ref

the article bird of prey has a problem — Preceding unsigned comment added by 109.155.93.18 (talk) 17:35, 16 January 2019 (UTC)

The problem has been solved. Your edits were unsourced and malformatted, so another editor has reverted them. --David Biddulph (talk) 17:51, 16 January 2019 (UTC)

Adding content, but not displaying

Hi there,

I'm needing to get content displayed on my political parties wiki. I hit the edit and I keep checking the edit bit, it's saved but not displaying.

Please can you suggest what may be the issue? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Scribe31 (talk • contribs) 17:39, 16 January 2019 (UTC)

If you look at {{Infobox political party}} you will see that the parameter gay_wing does not exist in that template. When you preview your edits in the article Democratic Alliance (South Africa) you will see a warning to that effect, and if you save the edit the parameter won't be displayed. --David Biddulph (talk) 17:48, 16 January 2019 (UTC)

Place to solicit more feedback on a merger proposal

Greetings,

is there a place where I can ask for more input on a little frequented merger discussion? Specifically Talk:African humid period#Merger discussion with Neolithic subpluvial. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 17:42, 16 January 2019 (UTC)

How about here? Wikipedia:WikiProject_Africa#Requests TimTempleton ^{(talk) (cont)} 19:42, 16 January 2019 (UTC)

(edit conflict)One of the simplest way is to convert the discussion to RfC with {{rfc}} tag. This will cause it to be listed on several places where people will notice. I don't know of any systematic way of advertising merger discussions as probably none exist. See top notice of Wikipedia:Proposed mergers. –Ammarpad (talk) 19:45, 16 January 2019 (UTC)

OK, tried with the RfC method. Thanks for the replies. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 21:01, 16 January 2019 (UTC)

Marlon Simon

<unsourced promotional content redacted> — Preceding unsigned comment added by Marlonsi (talk • contribs) 20:30, 16 January 2019 (UTC)

Marlonsi, Unclear what you want WelpThatWorked (talk) 20:37, 16 January 2019 (UTC)

Archiving talk messages on my user page

Currently, on the talk page of my user page, I have 24 messages. This is a big number and I would like to archive them. Is there anywhere I can go on Wikipedia to find a quick and easy guide as to how I can archive talk pages? I think the answer is yes but I am not sure where it is now. Vorbee (talk) 21:54, 16 January 2019 (UTC)

@Vorbee: is WP:ARCHIVE what you are looking for? Eagleash (talk) 22:07, 16 January 2019 (UTC)

Thank you User: Eagleash - that seems to be what I am looking for. Vorbee (talk) 08:51, 17 January 2019 (UTC)

URGENT HELP

I am creating a bio page for the late wildlife artist: Bob Kuhn. There is already a page created under the same name. The article already created under Bob Kuhn is not the man I wish to write about. He is a former mayor, not the wildlife artist I wish to document on wiki. Unfortanly, Bob Kuhn the wildlife artist has no middle name and Bob is his birth name. There is no way of distinguishing him from the Bob Kuhn(former mayor). This site will not let me create a page because of this problem. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Arizona Key (talk • contribs) 22:35, 16 January 2019 (UTC)

@Arizona Key: You could create the article as Bob Kuhn (artist) for example to differentiate it. Usually the advice is to submit your article for review using the Wizard at WP:YFA and if it is approved, the reviewer will find a suitable name for the article before moving it to main space. RudolfRed (talk) 22:38, 16 January 2019 (UTC)

January 17

How do I add a footnote?

I'm making my first edit to a Wikipedia page and am not sure how to create a footnote. Thanks for your help! Jessica InspireEdit — Preceding unsigned comment added by InspireEdit (talk • contribs) 00:15, 17 January 2019 (UTC)

@InspireEdit: Welcome to Wikipedia, and thanks for wanting to make it better and including citations to your additions. You can learn how to do citations at WP:TUTORIAL and WP:REFB. If you have further questions, please come back and ask. RudolfRed (talk) 00:22, 17 January 2019 (UTC)

Potternewton

Ref number 6 - I could not work out what to put for the writer/author. This is a book on line. Can you fix and please leave in quote. This one was difficult for us here at the college to do. sorry 175.33.45.21 (talk) 00:53, 17 January 2019 (UTC)

 Fixed Once again, please do not create multiple threads with the same heading. Thank you. Eagleash (talk) 01:01, 17 January 2019 (UTC)

Dear Eagleash - I do hope your health is OK. References 5 and 35 are exactly the same but need to be there. Please do the little letter thing - "a" 's and "b" 's - that I have seen on other pages if you can please. Thanks 175.33.45.21 (talk) 04:20, 17 January 2019 (UTC)

The way for you to do that is described at Help:Referencing for beginners#Same reference used more than once. --David Biddulph (talk) 06:59, 17 January 2019 (UTC)

Replacing a Wikipedia entry

May I submit entirely new entries for Joseph Forer (prominent US civil rights attorney) and for his daughter Jane Forer Gentleman (renowned US-Canadian statistician? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2600:387:3:805:0:0:0:79 (talk) 03:06, 17 January 2019 (UTC)

Courtesy links: Joseph Forer and Jane F. Gentleman. Generally speaking, this should not be done. Instead, the existing articles should be improved with whatever additional information from independent and published Reliable sources an editor without any Conflict of Interest may have found and can Cite (existing incorrect, and contentious uncited, information should of course also be removed).

The only instance where such a completely fresh start might be appropriate is if the existing articles were so bad, in Wikipedian terms, that they merited deletion: this might be due to high proportions of uncited claims, libellous claims, breach of copyright, seriously incompetent structure and language, or major non-compliance with Wikipedia's Manual of Style. None of these seem to be the case here, and I notice that both articles are less than 2 years old – few articles reach their full potential in so short a time.

If any such action were to be even contemplated, it should first be discussed thoroughly on the articles' Talk pages, from which the proposer ought to contact all major and recent editors of the articles, who can be identified from the articles' respective View history pages. {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} 90.217.251.247 (talk) 04:10, 17 January 2019 (UTC)

Article creation

Hi,

I have a dought that, 1. Can only one article in an account be performed? 2. Can user page can create separately? Please help me..

Seenu — Preceding unsigned comment added by Santssocial (talk • contribs) 03:31, 17 January 2019 (UTC)

Hello Santssocial, if you are asking whether you can draft more than one encyclopedic article at a time, yes you can have any number of drafts at once as long as they have different names, for example User:Santssocial/Sandbox, User:Santssocial/Sandbox2, User:Santssocial/Xyz, and Draft:Acme Widget Co. Your principal user page, User:Santssocial, however, is not a good place to draft an article, for it is reserved for writing about yourself as a Wikipedia editor. See WP:Your first article about creating an article. —teb728 t c 07:21, 17 January 2019 (UTC)

By the way Santssocial, I am a little concerned about your username. Just so you know, Wikipedia is an encyclopedia and not a social media site. —teb728 t c 07:30, 17 January 2019 (UTC)

Editing the Article

I couldn't find the article which i have submitted on previous day. I wanted to edit the article. Please help me regarding this. My page url : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Uravu2019

Note: The article is not yet published. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Uravu2019 (talk • contribs) 05:47, 17 January 2019 (UTC)

@Uravu2019: The above is the only edit which you have submitted to English Wikipedia. Did you click "Publish changes"? Without clicking that nothing is submitted. —teb728 t c 07:50, 17 January 2019 (UTC)

Editing an article

I am the Head at St Bede's Inter-Church School in Cambridge. I would like to update the information on Wikipedia about St Bede's but this is proving difficult. What citations are needed for this to take place?

Thank you,

Alistair — Preceding unsigned comment added by Alistair Day (talk • contribs) 09:31, 17 January 2019 (UTC)

@Alistair Day: Wikipedia is generally looking for independent reliable sources. Primary sources (such as the school's website) are acceptable only in limited circumstances, usually for purely factual information(like number of students enrolled, location, etc.) Since you are the head of the school, you should avoid editing the article about it directly as you have a conflict of interest and are a paid editor(please review those policies, one of which is a Wikipedia Terms of Use requirement). However, you can make a formal edit request(click that link to review how) on the article talk page to request any corrections you feel are needed. There is a "Talk" tab at the top of the article which you can click to access it. 331dot (talk) 09:53, 17 January 2019 (UTC)

Reset password/login without email

I would like to reset my password/login for my account, however, I believe my account is linked to an old Hotmail email address which I deleted years ago. I haven't used my Wikipedia account in a few years as well. Is there another way to reset my password or log in using my new email address? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.246.151.75 (talk) 09:42, 17 January 2019 (UTC)

If you don't remember your password, I believe the only way to recover it is to use the email address associated with it. You can't change the email address associated with it unless you are logged in(otherwise anyone could change your email address and hijack your account). If it has been several years since you used your account, I would just create a new account and note on its user page that it is a successor account to your original account. 331dot (talk) 09:48, 17 January 2019 (UTC)

Help to create bio page

hi there can you help me to create a music brand bio page ? — Preceding unsigned comment added by M R SAMEER KHAN (talk • contribs) 11:43, 17 January 2019 (UTC)

M R SAMEER KHAN before creating a page for the brand, you must ensure that it passes WP:MUSICBIO, Or atleast WP:GNG. Daiyusha (talk) 11:48, 17 January 2019 (UTC)

"Short description" template - should I not use it?

I added a {{Short description}} to an article but someone reverted it, saying it should go in Wikidata instead. But the Wikipedia:Short description and Template:Short description pages don't indicate that short descriptions should be added to Wikidata in preference. My gut feeling is that perhaps Wikidata should be used in preference to adding them directly to the article's page. So ought I to put short descriptions into Wikidata instead of the article? (If so, I suppose this means the Wikipedia:Short description and Template:Short description pages should be revised accordingly.) --A bit iffy (talk) 14:00, 17 January 2019 (UTC)

Wikidata is not under the control of enwiki, so it is much safer to have the short description here. That's why Wikipedia:Short description and Template:Short description were written, see Wikipedia:Short description#Background/overview. --David Biddulph (talk) 15:47, 17 January 2019 (UTC)

I have added the short description back, as Wikipedia:Short description#Background/overview linked above mentions that after having over 2 million descriptions, The Wikidata description will not be displayed on any page. –FlyingAce^✈hello 17:59, 17 January 2019 (UTC)

Thanks.--A bit iffy (talk) 19:26, 17 January 2019 (UTC)

Venari Resources Wikipedia entry

Hi. I work for Venari Resources and we would like to have our Wikipedia entry deleted. The link to our page is: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Venari_Resources — Preceding unsigned comment added by 206.231.228.130 (talk) 17:08, 17 January 2019 (UTC)

A company does not get to decide on its own if there is an article about it on Wikipedia. See WP:OWN. If there are reasons based in Wikipedia guidelines to do so, that's a different matter, but not just because the subject wants it to be. If you represent the company, you must comply with WP:COI and WP:PAID. 331dot (talk) 17:17, 17 January 2019 (UTC)

Closing discussions

Hi, does a discussion on a Talk page have to be closed by an uninvolved third-party editor or can one of the editors involved in the discussion close it when it is clear that further discussion will not accomplish anything? It is not clear from Wikipedia:Closing discussions if it has to be an uninvolved editor. Also, if three editors are in agreement and one is not, does this count as a rough consensus WP:ROUGHCONSENSUS? I know consensus is not a head count, but I'm not sure if this is enough to assert a rough consensus. Thanks for your help. - Epinoia (talk) 17:38, 17 January 2019 (UTC)

Changing page name

How do I change the very top title of a page related to our company. Our name says Ty Inc. But we want it to say Ty . — Preceding unsigned comment added by Aceyoutoo (talk • contribs) 18:07, 17 January 2019 (UTC)

You can request a page move, or move it yourself, but you need a good reason to. Why should the page drop the Inc.? WelpThatWorked (talk) 18:27, 17 January 2019 (UTC)

Normally the Inc. would be omitted, see WP:Naming conventions (companies), but in this case Ty is a disambiguation page. --David Biddulph (talk) 18:37, 17 January 2019 (UTC)

Would Ty (company) be an improvement? Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 19:08, 17 January 2019 (UTC)

Gråbergs Gråa Sång, I think so. Would have to change the related template name. I would be fine with doing that. WelpThatWorked (talk) 19:16, 17 January 2019 (UTC)

Discrimination

How can I send a message to Justice Ruth Bater Ginsburg about the Discrimination act that she added to the Constitution This Is Very important? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:204:D400:26F6:5075:C74D:7830:1124 (talk) 21:35, 17 January 2019 (UTC)

This page is for asking about Wikipedia editing or use only. That said, Justice Ginsburg cannot add one word to the Constitution so the premise of your question is flawed. 331dot (talk) 21:41, 17 January 2019 (UTC)

I believe the OP is referring to the Pregnancy Discrimination Act of 1978, which amended Title VII of the Civil Rights Act of 1964. Though I wouldn't hold my breath, the most likely way to actually reach a Supreme Court Justice is to write—pen, paper, envelope, stamp—send it to:

Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg
The Supreme Court of the United States
One First Street N.E.
Washington, D.C. 20543

Don't send a printed letter. Use neat cursive. Don't misspell her name as you did above.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 04:37, 18 January 2019 (UTC)

Trying to publish the draft page: Turnu Fort

Mandatarm (talk) 22:08, 17 January 2019 (UTC) I've created and edited the "Turnu Fort" page which i would like to be published under the name of "Turnu fortress". I am a newbie on wikipedia and i do not know how or whom to talk to verify and publish my draft. Can anybody help me with some infos? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mandatarm (talk • contribs) 22:07, 17 January 2019 (UTC)

Hello, Mandatarm. There are two things you can do. If you are confident that the article meets the minimum requirements for an article on English Wikipedia, (and on a very quick glance, I think it does) you can simply MOVE it to main space. Alternatively, you can request a review by inserting {{subst:submit}} (with the double curly brackets) at the top. When a reviewing editor accepts it, they will move it to main space.

I am a little concerned that the very first version of Draft:Turnu fort that you created was so fully written, and I wondered if it might be a copyright violation - which Wikipedia takes very seriously. Looking at ro:Cetatea Turnu, I'm pretty sure that you have translated the article from the Romanian. This is perfectly fine - as long as you attribute it. If you do not attribute it, then it is a violation of the CC-BY-SA licence, but this can be quickly corrected: see WP:Translation#How to translate. --ColinFine (talk) 22:31, 17 January 2019 (UTC)

January 18

Changing Pacific Sun Newspaper Image

Hi, I've been assigned by my work Pacific Sun newspaper to update our Wikipedia listing. I've been able to change everything except our photo. We made the photo and we are happy to make it available to use on the 4 agreements by waiving our copyright and making it common usage.

I'm getting an error saying I'm unable to upload the photo based on it not following wikimedia commons. The current photo is a cover we published years ago, the photo we would like to upload is here https://issuu.com/metrosiliconvalley/docs/pacific_sun_1851

This is the page we are having the issue on https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pacific_Sun_(newspaper)

How can we proceed, we really would prefer a different photo in our infobox?

Thank you, Candace Simmons Legals/Classifieds/Digital Management PacificSun.com — Preceding unsigned comment added by Wenchimodel (talk • contribs) 00:36, 18 January 2019 (UTC)

Candace, who owns the copyright to that photograph? We have strict rules about respecting copyright, and that picture would have to be licensed by the copyright holder to meet them. Also: we don't care what the subject of an article wants in the article about them, unless it is inaccurate. (Candace has been warned of our requirements for disclosure of paid editing.) --Orange Mike | Talk 02:47, 18 January 2019 (UTC)

I don't know the copyright status of the current image but for it to be replaced, a new image would have to be released with licensing that allows anyone (not just Wikipedia) to do anything with the image, and editors interested in the article would have to agree that the new image would be an improvement. The easiest release would be to put it on a website controlled by the Pacific Sun with a suitable copyright notice. See Wikipedia:Donating copyrighted materials. Johnuniq (talk) 02:59, 18 January 2019 (UTC)

Actually the present image in the infobox of Pacific Sun (newspaper) is a non-free image. It could be replaced by uploading another non-free image to Wikipedia (not Commons), tagging it with {{Non-free newspaper image}}, and providing a non-free use rationale like on the present image, File:Pacific Sun front page.jpg. Changing the image name in the infobox to the new image would then make the present image an orphan; so it would be deleted. —teb728 t c 10:16, 18 January 2019 (UTC)

While a non-free "fair-use" image will work, a free image on commons is preferable because it allows the image to be used on other Wikipedias. As Johnuniq said, just put your image up on your own website with a CC-BY-SA copyright license notice, and Then put it on commons. A person in your position already knows, but for completeness: for you to grant this license, you must be the copyright holder, and that license allows anyone anywhere to use the image or modified versions of it in any way they want. This would include a competitor deciding to publish a newspaper with the same look and feel as yours (Other, non-copyright laws such as trademark, trade dress, misrepresentation still apply, but not copyright.) -Arch dude (talk) 16:01, 18 January 2019 (UTC)

How to add reference about a guinness world record without an official blog post?

I was on Hypixel and saw one of its Guinness world records says "non-primary sources needed". So I went to Guinness world record website, searched that record: that record does not have an official blog post on the site, although it can be searched in the "Record application search".

The problem is: if it had a blog post, then it can be directly linked, and it can be used in references. Record application search, however, requires login to view (although creation of accounts is free), and doesn't have a permalink. I wonder how, if at all possible, can this type of source be cited.

User670839245 (talk) 02:29, 18 January 2019 (UTC)

Hi User670839245. Better here would be secondary sources such as press and magazine reports (not blogs). To give you a start I've added a sentence under "Accolades", referenced to existing Ref 9 (Variety), to verify that four Guinness World Records have been won, although not specifying them all: Bhunacat10 (talk), 10:21, 18 January 2019 (UTC)

@User670839245: A source does not need to be linkabl. In fact, it does not need to be on the Internet at all. Any source that is theoretically available to the general public in some way can be cited. Examples include books in libraries. The citation must contain sufficient information about the source that another Wikipedia editor can find the source. This is independent of whether or not the source is reliable. Your sources are primary, not secondary, so they cannot be used for anything except the fact that they exist (i.e., in this case, the fact that Guiness awarded the "world record") and other bare fats. Any inferences about these facts must be cited to reliable secondary sources. Note that blogs are not generally considered to be reliable secondary sources. -Arch dude (talk) 15:48, 18 January 2019 (UTC)

Deletion of litterature

Hi, I used wrong and corrupt sources which was manipulated and created by the zionists. So i want everything created with the following usernames, deleted from wikipedia permanently

"MuhammadMudassir786" and "MohammadModassir786" — Preceding unsigned comment added by 178.232.243.179 (talk) 07:36, 18 January 2019 (UTC)

Unfortunately, we don't know who you are, and we don't normally completely delete everything unless there are copyright or libel issues. I suggest that you log in with your accounts and correct any errors that you made, explaining why in the edit summaries. Dbfirs 07:42, 18 January 2019 (UTC)

Rangeblock or Sockpuppet Report?

There's been vandalism across a few IP addresses to actors' Wikipedia pages with the exact same pattern of editing (changing the birthdates to January 1, 1 AD). Would it be reasonable to request a range block (if that's possible) since it's just a few accounts, or to open a sock puppet investigation though it's obvious that the IP addresses are used by the same person? Or, is there another approach I could take? Thanks, Rosalina2427 ^{(talk to me)} 08:52, 18 January 2019 (UTC)

Rosalina2427 I should say this is one for the admins. Check whether the problem has already been dealt with and if not, assemble diffs and post at WP:AIV: Bhunacat10 (talk), 13:04, 18 January 2019 (UTC)

Deleting a file in wikimedia

I have made an .svg file and uploaded it to commons.wikimedia.org. However, after I tried to use it I realized it does not look as I intended, so I wish to delete it. I do not see any way to do that, only the possibility to upload a new version. Can I delete it? Answer to my talk page is preferred. Carystus (talk) 19:17, 18 January 2019 (UTC)

Hi Carystus! Unless you're an admin, you can't directly delete a file (if anyone could delete any page, that could have disastrous effects), but you can mark it for deletion. If you uploaded the file to Commons in the last 7 days, first make sure that it isn't used on any Wikimedia projects. If it's not, add the coding {{SD|G7}} to the top of it, which states that the author or uploader of the file has requested that it be deleted. An admin should soon come around to delete it. Hope this helps and let me know if you need me to explain further.--SkyGazer 512 ^{Oh no, what did I do this time?} 19:27, 18 January 2019 (UTC)

Also, I've replied here because it's more convenient for others to keep discussion in one place, but I'd be more than happy to copy my reply to your talk page if you would like.--SkyGazer 512 ^{Oh no, what did I do this time?} 19:34, 18 January 2019 (UTC)

Thanks, I have followed the advice. It is fine to answer here. I wonder, are there are any discussion groups or help as to how vector and bitmap illustrations are made and which format to choose? My problem was that the .svg I made (using LibreOffice Draw) unexpectedly displayed different when published on wikipedia compared to viewing it locally in Image Viewer, and still different when opened in Firefox. I would prefer to use plain Postscript, but I don't know if it is compatible with wikipedia markup. Carystus (talk) 20:33, 18 January 2019 (UTC)

"See also" links

I am being told by an editor (User:Calton) that I cannot place a "See also" link in an article unless some reliable source has explicitly drawn a connection between the topic of the linked article and the topic of the original article. I cannot imagine that to be the case, but I am asking here. The relevant discussion is here: Talk:Kidnapping of Jayme Closs#Joseph E. Duncan III. Thanks. Joseph A. Spadaro (talk) 21:14, 18 January 2019 (UTC)

The presence of a reliable source that makes the connection is probably not necessary to place a link in the See also section (for the first time). However, once the basis for the placement has been questioned and challenged, as here, I would say that yes, unless the connection is truly obvious and the debate is clearly absurd, a reliable source making the connection should be required before restoring it, rather than relying purely on the opinion(s) of the editor placing the link and/or small number of other editors, since the placement is obviously not uncontroversial. General Ization ^Talk 21:24, 18 January 2019 (UTC)

So, how does your view comport with WP:SEEALSO then? Where are you getting this "new standard" from? Joseph A. Spadaro (talk) 21:31, 18 January 2019 (UTC)

This is what I stated at that other Talk Page. The WP:SEEALSO policy specifically states, quote: The links in the "See also" section might be only indirectly related to the topic of the article because one purpose of "See also" links is to enable readers to explore tangentially related topics. If one topic is "indirectly related" and "tangential" to another topic, why on earth (and how on earth) could we expect reliable sources to "explicitly link them" (as User:Calton has suggested demanded)? That "standard" makes no sense at all. And I'd like to know where that "standard" came from. Thanks. Joseph A. Spadaro (talk) 21:34, 18 January 2019 (UTC)

@Joseph A. Spadaro: This is a form of content dispute. Please discuss this on the article's talk page. I do not think the details of "guidelines" about "see also" are very useful here. Instead, look at WP:SYNTH, which is an expansion of a policy (WP:OR), not a guideline. If the other editor does not agree that there is a supportable linkage between the subjects, then the "see also" constitutes a synth. -Arch dude (talk) 23:18, 18 January 2019 (UTC)

Article notability question....

I'm writing a new article on a sports phenomenon within a sport. It's received mainstream attention, but most sources also have opinion inserted in them. Is it OK to still write a topic on this? I'm new, so sorry for this. 162.200.70.94 (talk) 22:11, 18 January 2019 (UTC)

Why don't you tell us the topic? Thanks. Joseph A. Spadaro (talk) 22:20, 18 January 2019 (UTC)

Kapu caste

Request to delete the below content in "" from Kapu caste page.

"From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 (Redirected from Ontari)

Jump to navigationJump to search "Ontari" redirects here. For the 2008 film, see Ontari (film)" — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.114.16.162 (talk) 22:56, 18 January 2019 (UTC)

I have listed the redirect Ontari for discussion: see Wikipedia:Redirects_for_discussion/Log/2019_January_18: Bhunacat10 (talk), 23:47, 18 January 2019 (UTC)

Hello IP user,

• All pages on Wikipedia say "From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia"
• You got "(Redirected from Ontari)" only because you accessed Kapu through the Ontari redirect; it provides a way to get back to the redirect.
• The ""Ontari" redirects here…" provide access to the film article for reader interested in Ontari as a film rather than a subclan.

Those lines are useful for some people and do no harm to others. —teb728 t c 01:29, 19 January 2019 (UTC)

Notable enough...

Would you consider a sports phenomenon within a sport which has received mainstream coverage notable if most of the topic's sources have some opinion in them? I'd rather not disclose the topic at this moment. New user. 162.200.70.94 (talk) 23:18, 18 January 2019 (UTC)

I'm afraid that you're being so vague as to make it difficult to help you. Most scandals, for example, are phenomena within another, broader subject; and people certainly have opinions about scandals (or so-called scandals; see moral panic). Likewise, innovations of style, posture, technique and technology within a sport can draw very fierce opinions without thus not being notable.

Why not simply disclose the topic? It's not like you get paid for having an article here. --Orange Mike | Talk 23:33, 18 January 2019 (UTC)

Hey IP, you just asked the same thing two topics above. —teb728 t c 01:40, 19 January 2019 (UTC)

Someone reverted my above topic back... As for the disclosing, I'm not getting paid, but I'd still not disclose the topic for unspecified reasons. 162.200.70.94 (talk) 03:20, 19 January 2019 (UTC)

Carefully read the general notability guideline (WP:GNG) and make an written objective point-by-point analysis of the notability of your topic. If your sources are reliable, the opinions do not in general detract from the reliability of the sources. If you objective analysis is that the subject meets the guideline, then it deserves an article, unless in your editorial opinion it is better to cover it within some other article. -Arch dude (talk) 03:55, 19 January 2019 (UTC)

January 19

Page watchers

Is there a way to see which accounts are watching a certain page? JACKINTHEBOX • ^TALK 08:53, 19 January 2019 (UTC)

No. Help:Watchlist#Privacy. --David Biddulph (talk) 09:16, 19 January 2019 (UTC)

Seeing category by new items first

Hello, say I was looking at a category with a thousand things in it and then I came back a while later to look again but I wanted the newly added articles listed first so they weren't lost in the swamp... ~ R.T.G 09:41, 19 January 2019 (UTC)

@RTG: I only know a partial and cumbersome solution. You may want an alternative account with a blank watchlist for it. Place the category on your watchlist. Disable "Hide categorization of pages" at Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-watchlist or on the watchlist. The watchlist should now show additions and removals of pages in the category. It can go back up to 30 days. PrimeHunter (talk) 10:20, 19 January 2019 (UTC)

Funny enough I wanted to use it on another wiki where I've only about 2 or 3 other categories on the watchlist so I was able to filter it to categories. I didn't think it would list every change there only the latest.

Resolved

thanks. ~ R.T.G 11:11, 19 January 2019 (UTC)

India map in Marathi

Searching paithan on INDIA map produces result which cut Arunachal Pradesh and Jammu and Kashmir from India map.Please correct the map . — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2405:204:222B:972D:BA3D:5F4D:C926:3E0 (talk) 10:12, 19 January 2019 (UTC)

Talk:India/FAQ says: "The map shows the official (de jure) borders in undisputed territory and the de facto borders and all related claims where there's a dispute; it cannot exclusively present the official views of India, Pakistan, or China. See WP:NPOV." Note that the map at India#Subdivisions also shows the Indian color for an area claimed by Pakistan but controlled by India, so Wikipedia does not side with Pakistan in the conflict. PrimeHunter (talk) 10:28, 19 January 2019 (UTC)

Help needed with user page

Besides being a mess, I'm getting the message " This page contains too many expensive parser function calls". Does any kind soul have the time to take a look? Thanks. Doug Weller talk 10:47, 19 January 2019 (UTC)

That's probably because you're quite new to this Wikipedia thing. Just give it a kick. (sorry, but I haven't any serious suggestions).  Velella  ^{Velella Talk}   11:08, 19 January 2019 (UTC)

Category:Pages with too many expensive parser function calls says, "As of 14 October 2010, expensive function calls are #ifexist, {{PAGESINCATEGORY}} and {{PAGESIZE}}. These pages should be edited to reduce the number of expensive calls." I understand the words but I couldn't tell you what it means. ~ R.T.G 11:16, 19 January 2019 (UTC)

Previewing User:Doug Weller gives me: "Warning: This page contains too many expensive parser function calls. It should have less than 500 calls, there are now 555 calls." See Category:Pages with too many expensive parser function calls and WP:EXPENSIVE. I guess the main issue here is too many total {{PAGESINCAT:...}} in the transcluded pages. There are only 15 in the source. PrimeHunter (talk) 11:25, 19 January 2019 (UTC)

@PrimeHunter: that makes sense even to me. I just have no idea what to fix. Unless maybe there's a better Admin dashboard? And would also appreciate it if someone could tidy up my userboxes, everytime I try I just make it worse. Thanks everyone else who responded, even if you couldn't helpo. Doug Weller talk 11:36, 19 January 2019 (UTC)

"Parser profiling data" at the bottom of a preview includes "Expensive parser function count". You can preview parts of the page to see where the high counts come from. {{dashboard}} alone gives 552 and the template page has the issue so it could be posted to the talk page. I guess processing stops somewhere on your user page when it only says 555 in total. PrimeHunter (talk) 11:50, 19 January 2019 (UTC)

If {{dashboard}} is removed then you only get 9 at Expensive parser function count. Some of the 15 {{PAGESINCAT:...}} in the source are conditional. PrimeHunter (talk) 12:00, 19 January 2019 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Dashboard, which is transcluded on {{Dashboard}} itself uses 455 of the function calls, explaining the issue. I'd say use {{Admin dashboard}}. Galobtter (pingó mió) 12:10, 19 January 2019 (UTC)

Citing two article sources

Encyclopedia.com is a convenient site to read Encyclopaedia Judaica articles but I'd like to be able to cite references to a pdf edition of the EJ itself as well even though links can only be to EJ volumes rather than specific pages. Is it possible to include two references for article sources? Mcljlm (talk) 12:28, 19 January 2019 (UTC)

You should cite what you read. If you read both, you can cite both. The popular {{Citation}} template or Citation style 1 templates do not support this, so you would have to write your citations in a different way, or add some information after the end of the citation template but before the final </ref> tag. Jc3s5h (talk) 12:36, 19 January 2019 (UTC)

Gemeente Hengelo ROBLOX

Gemeente Hengelo ROBLOX is opgericht door: DimitryYTNL// Mede Owner: Gillian Het is gebaseerd op Hengelo Overijssel met ongeveer 81.079 inwoners

De game is aangemaakt op 20 Oktober 2017. Het record aantal spelers is ongeveer: 25 Players, De creator aka Dimitry is ook een tijdje gestopt met Hengelo door problemen met de staff en veel ruzie De game kwam weer tevoorschijn in: Juli. een leuk feitje: De neef van Dimitry helpt mee met Hengelo hij is gestart in Februari Later in 2018 kwamen sommige Co Owners terug zoals: Dean200489,Yassinswagboy etc! Dean was al eerder bij Hengelo maar omdat iedereen boos werd is het niet door gegaan.. Hengelo gaat in Febrauri 2019 open! Het idee van dat is dat het moet lijken op de echte Hengelo!

Creator: DimitryYTNL,DarrylGames1234

Co Creators: Dean200489, baardmans1234 — Preceding unsigned comment added by DimitryYTNL (talk • contribs) 14:33, 19 January 2019 (UTC)

Dit is een helpdesk voor het stellen van vragen en niet voor het plaatsen van de inhoud van een voorgesteld artikel. Dit is ook de Engelse Wikipedia en artikelen in het Duits zouden hier nooit goed zijn opgenomen. Ze zouden op de Duitse Wikipedia beloven of helemaal niet--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 15:19, 19 January 2019 (UTC)

Violation Wiki policy

Please delete immediately this page. It violates Wiki policy!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Randy_Fine